RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-12 Thread Dave Watts
While I agree with you that Macromedia should support Apache 2.0 for CF 5, I disagree with your post. You seem to imply that a normal IT shop wouldn't want to upgrade to CFMX until after it matures for a couple of years, yet you want to upgrade to Apache 2.0, which is certainly

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-12 Thread Dave Watts
The MM Partners office informs me that MM has no plans to supply a mod_coldfusion.so for CF 5.0/Linux/Apache 2.0 'Not enough demand' they say. So know we know MM's policy on one-release- back support. They don't do what's right: they do what will not get them punished by losing too

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-12 Thread Dick Applebaum
On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 12:34 AM, Dave Watts wrote: From the perspective of a profit-oriented company, isn't that what's right? After all, if they do something like that for a small number of customers, they're expending some effort that perhaps could be better spent on

CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix (was RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0)

2002-11-12 Thread Matt Liotta
Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Justin Greene [mailto:24760158988311636;spamex.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 This is a particularly sore

RE: CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix (was RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0)

2002-11-12 Thread Matt Liotta
- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix (was RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0) You may not be wrong in your lack of support of new versions of CF. It has become clear me and many others

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 for CF5

2002-11-12 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 20:40 US/Pacific, Dave Watts wrote: Security. It doesn't seem that clear that emerging Apache security issues are going to be fixed in the 1.3 base as well as the 2.n base. Given the percentage of Apache users sticking with 1.3.xx, I don't see that as a serious

MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Greg Bullough
The MM Partners office informs me that MM has no plans to supply a mod_coldfusion.so for CF 5.0/Linux/Apache 2.0 'Not enough demand' they say. So know we know MM's policy on one-release- back support. They don't do what's right: they do what will not get them punished by losing too many

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Greg Bullough wrote: The MM Partners office informs Then maybe the cf-partners list is the right one for your post. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription:

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Matt Liotta
in comparison to Apache 1.3. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 -Original Message- From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb;outofchaos.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Plunkett, Matt
Of course, the logical distinction is that an Apache upgrade is free... -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] While I agree with you that Macromedia should support Apache 2.0 for CF 5, I disagree with your post. You seem to imply that a normal IT shop wouldn't

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Matt Liotta
, November 11, 2002 9:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 Of course, the logical distinction is that an Apache upgrade is free... -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] While I agree with you that Macromedia should support

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread todd
Free or not, it's still a business decision that should have been made. Don't upgrade to something you know that's not going to support your server side. I have to agree with Matt, I stated this myself last week as well. CFMX is technically free if one had a subscription. ~Todd On Mon,

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread William Wheatley
Which isnt free because you have to pay thousand+ extra - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 Free or not, it's still a business decision that should have

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 for CF5

2002-11-11 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 06:38 US/Pacific, Greg Bullough wrote: So know we know MM's policy on one-release- back support. They don't do what's right: they do what will not get them punished by losing too many customers. A lot of people are staying with Apache 1.3.x because many

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread todd
+ extra - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 Free or not, it's still a business decision that should have been made. Don't upgrade to something you

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 for CF5

2002-11-11 Thread Greg Bullough
At 07:43 AM 11/11/02 -0800, Sean A Corfield wrote: Since you seem determined to stick with CF5, I can't see why you'd want to introduce the risk of upgrading to Apache 2.0.x? Your criticism is illogical. Security. It doesn't seem that clear that emerging Apache security issues are going to be

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 for CF5

2002-11-11 Thread todd
But, apparently security is being address otherwise 1.3.26 would have been the last latest build. 1.3.27 is now the next new build. I would think that Apache 2 runs the risk of finding new security holes at the moment than Apache 1.3.x - that's just my opinion tho. ~Todd On Mon, 11 Nov

Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 for CF5

2002-11-11 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 12:17 US/Pacific, Greg Bullough wrote: Security. It doesn't seem that clear that emerging Apache security issues are going to be fixed in the 1.3 base as well as the 2.n base. Well, we're in the process of implementing Apache 1.3.27 which was just released to

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 for CF5

2002-11-11 Thread Dave Watts
Security. It doesn't seem that clear that emerging Apache security issues are going to be fixed in the 1.3 base as well as the 2.n base. Given the percentage of Apache users sticking with 1.3.xx, I don't see that as a serious concern. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

2002-11-11 Thread Justin Greene
good support for the customer base, which ultimatly makes us buy the upgrades willingly. Justin -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta;r337.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0 While I agree with you