Epicon Elysium wrote:
> There's no email traffic in/out. It's just application traffic through
> WAF/ModSecurity. The files itself on the OS level are pretty static. So the
> ClamAV is used to scan the filesystem. So basically, I think it's just
> reputation rating on the files if any.
I'm st
Epicon Elysium via clamav-users wrote:
> Does ClamAV support in enabling the reputation rating? Seems I couldn't find
> any info when searching for it. There's nothing mentioned in the config file
> as well.
AIUI no, it doesn't have anything for that.
However, a very common setup is use AMaViS
Robert Schetterer wrote:
> Div monitors should be fine to code for such things
> like monit, munin, xymon, icinga, nagios , zabbix etc
Nagios has a plugin for it (someone's already done the coding), I used to use
it at my last job.
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Beeblebrox wrote:
>> ... If clamd finds something (it does happen), what's the plan?
>> The message is *already* in the user's mail box, and I'd say it should
>> *not* be there in your scenario, because the user can pick up the bad
>> mail simply by connecting other than through your gateway.
>
Dave McMurtrie wrote:
> The original poster doesn't mention which IMAP server he's using.
As I read it, he's looking at "random users accessing random servers" - eg a
user connecting his phone to the guest network and it then accessing Gmail.
I really don't think it's possible to do what he wan
Andy Schmidt wrote:
> If Paypal expects their emails to be delivered, then the CONTENT of their
> emails must not use phishing techniques.
In my experience, most PayPal emails are a catalogue of the things people are
told not to do ! Things like "click here to check your account" come
immediat
robert k Wild wrote:
> Can I install a clamav server and point all my clamav end users ie Mac
> Linux windows to the server to get update definitions
Yes. Setup your own mirror and point everything at it.
> and can I manage my
> clients from the server ie see if there online run scans and lock
Tsutomu Oyamada wrote:
> Our environment is a local mirror.
> However, it does not matter.
>
> I wanted to know if there is the case that the DNS TXT of ClamAV have
> not been updated for few days.
> Could it be possibe?
> Is this issue caused by the problem on our enviroment of querying DNS?
>
Tsutomu Oyamada wrote:
> ClamAV update process started at Sat Nov 5 05:01:15 2016
> Using IPv6 aware code
> Querying current.cvd.clamav.net
> TTL: 1797
> Software version from DNS: 0.99.2
> main.cvd version from DNS: 57
> main.cvd is up to date (version: 57, sigs: 4218790, f-level: 60, builder:
I realise English is not your main language and this is probably very difficult
for you to explain in what is to you a foreign language, but I don't think we
are able to figure out just what is not working ...
Tsutomu Oyamada wrote:
> In the present situation fail.
What is failing ?
Does you
Al Varnell wrote:
> So I think I have the answer for this one. From my research it would seem
> that TTL values are set by the DNS server you are accessing, not by the
> ClamAV and is the same for all records on that server. You would have to
> check with the DNS ISP to find out if it has cha
Borough Rumford wrote:
> I know clamav is released under GPL license, and third-party commercial app
> shouldn’t link libclamav.
Is the library under the GPL or LGPL - the answer is different for the two
licences ?
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#GPLStaticVsDynamic
https://www.gnu
Mark Allan wrote:
>
>> For my, I use Mail.app the majority of the time. Apparently if I delete
>> lines and inline reply like I do in Thunderbird, Mail.app just tells me to
>> eat dust and unthreads the whole thing. Guess I should file a bug with
>> Apple.
>
> That's strange. I use Mail.ap
M.hafez wrote:
> can i install the mail server (win or Linux based ) and the clamav in
> different machine, that may allow me to filter more than one mailer server
> using the same Clamav machine.
In principle yes, though it very much depends on how you are going to pass the
email to it.
If
Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Given that I wouldn't be bothered at all if SystemD was "just" an init
>> system, it's all the other crap I want to keep out. Do you really think
>> I'm going to allow a SystemD library (who's package description gives
>> no clues about it's functions or intentions) onbo
Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Is "harmless" supposed to include "not installable" ?
>
> No. What's not installable?
>
> Install clamav-daemon (with the lib) and don't worry about it.
Given that I wouldn't be bothered at all if SystemD was "just" an init system,
it's all the other crap I want to
G.W. Haywood wrote:
> I would
>
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
Been there, done that, but what a right PITA it creates - specifically trying
to figure what package is triggering a chain of dependencies that's trying to
p
I've been trying to upgrade a Debian Wheezy system to Jessie without allowing
SystemD to sneak in. I've found that the Debian clamav-daemon package (but none
of the others) depends on libsystemd0.
I just wanted to check whether this is something that's in the upstream
package, or something that
Cmos35 wrote:
> I never asked to be unsubscribed, I asked a question and I unsubscribed by
> David Barr
No, he didn't unsubscribe you - only you can do that (or someone forging your
email address in the sender field)
I assume he wanted to unsubscribe from the list, but ignored the email he wo
Marcio Fiorette wrote:
> Não estou conseguindo atualizar o ClamAV da versão 0.98.5 para 0.98.6
> no Debian 7. Já segui os procedimentos que estão no site
> www.clamav.net e mesmo assim não obtive sucesso.
Google tells me you're trying to update but it's not working.
Did you install ClamAV as a
Daniel Spies wrote:
> I don't get how you find it more appropriate to silently reject someone's
> e-mail
I don't. I don't know where you got that from - perhaps it's from seeing so
many examples of bad practice that's become the norm so you assume everyone is
that bad ?
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OK, this is getting well off-topic for this list, this will be my final say on
the matter - and from some of the other comments I see I'm not alone in
considering you part of the problem.
Daniel Spies wrote:
>> Recipients may not trust the tags, but it *should* stop outbound
>> spam/infected
Daniel Spies wrote:
> In my opinion, it doesn't make any sense to scan e-mail leaving the server.
> The recipient will never trust these tags anyway. So why scan at all? It's
> important to scan incoming mail, be it from a local or an external client.
I disagree.
Recipients may not trust the t
Scott Kitterman wrote:
> No, sending bounces to the list is his problem.
Sorry, but that's a relatively common techie attitude - ignore the fact that
the end user probably has no idea what's going on (else why ask for help about
it ?) From the USER perspective, he has a problem with "using thi
Scott Kitterman wrote:
> ... but isn't this a bit off topic?
Yes it is - but the OP asked here as he was having problems with this list.
> In this particular case, he's got a local configuration issue nothing really
> to
> do with clamav, SPF, or DKIM (as a protocol).
Yes it's a local config
Marcello Lupo wrote:
> Have you any idea of the reason for this problem and how to let it go away?
Other than "DKIM breaks stuff"
> As now I’m loosing some messages from the list for sure.
Stop using mailing lists OR stop using DKIM
Or you might be able to tune DKIM to exclude the message cont
Alain Zidouemba wrote:
> The ClamAV engine won't update itself automatically. You will have to
> manually perform that operation. The latest version of ClamAV (version
> 0.98.1) can be downloaded here:
> http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/download/sources/
However, as the OP is using Debian, is new t
Shawn Webb wrote:
>> I suspect the fault lies in a rather small piece of code that was supposed
>> to make the call to recv() a little more robust. If you have the ability
>> (or desire) to compile from source, can you please try the attached patch?
>> If the patch works, I'll integrate it into o
Greg Folkert wrote:
> I had this problem and have used a brute force solution to remove the
> mirrors.dat file every day so it'll ignore previous problems (like the
> machine being unavailable or other such issues)
I had already considered the same. Since I've got two machines that have
dropped
Because I've several machines using it, I've setup one to act as a local
server, with the others pulling their updates from it. It's been generally
reliable for years, but since updating to 0.98.1 I'm having repeated problems
where the slaves just stop fetching updates.
As an example, one of th
Greg Folkert wrote:
> Debian Stable is that. If you must have 0.98.1, you should also be using
> "backports"... at least I used to until I just used Sid for everything.
> Backports help extend Stable's longevity and "freshness" a bit... but it
> is no guarantee 0.98.1 will be there.
Actually it
Gene Heskett wrote:
> So, is there any hope of making it work again using what the repo's for
> ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS will put back in (version 97.8) using synaptic? Or has
> the data format changed so much its hopeless?
97.8 is the current stable version in Debian (98 has just hit unstable) and
Greg Folkert wrote:
>Simon,
>Why not open a Bug, or look to see if there is one. Oh wait:
>In Pending Upload bugs for
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727027
>
>Just gotta look. Rending since Oct 2013
Yes indeed.
>And lookit that, some "Simon Hobso
Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have
made it to unstable, let alone testing.
I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.
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"Pancho" wrote:
>Hi - thanks to everyone for the replies. I have seen 2 replies now and it
>may well be that I have not been clear enough because both are at cross
>purposes.
Then it might help if you alaborated on what you meant.
>Unfortunately I don't have further time to invest in this topic b
"Pancho" wrote:
>While I understand the comment, it makes it risky I believe from a security
>perspective to tell users anything more than " file contains virus".
>
>I say this because if we find a virus and provide the message "file contains
>virus with name " then malicious users
>can effective
Vid Luther wrote:
I'm wondering if it's possible to run ClamAV on a file system that has a
ton of WordPress installs.
Yes, use (IIRC) clamscan to scan the directories.
I've done that on my servers when there's been any question about a
customer site.
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If it is not possible to set up clamAV like this, how can we set up
a cron job to scan the image folders and domain / server ?
You create a cron job, to run at whatever schedule you want, that
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You can't - it's not there to scan before it's been uploaded. You'd
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ject them.
Nonetheless, it is actually an interesting question - should/does clamav
return "not-scanned-due-to-user-restriction" in such cases?
I guess that's the key question, and is it possible to set the
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flag that the message should be rejected if it can't be scanned -
seems a reasonable question to me. The OP didn't say "is it possible
for ClamAV to reject the message", they rather correctly asked about
"flagging it for rejection".
, try installing the package from Sid, or
download the upstream package and install it manually. All of these have their
pros and cons - you would have to work which is best for you.
I hope this gives you some idea of the process involved, and why there is
inevitably a de
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My knowledge isn't enough to say (without searching) where it's
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rits in an intelligent way. Strike a reasonable balance
between protection, being a good netizen, and allowing users to do
their jobs.
Having said all that, in this case, I'm inclined to agree that the
requested functionality isn't really a generally useful think to be
doing.
required.
As with any upgrades, it's always worth having a full backup and a
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/log/clamav/*
>
> dpkg -i *.deb
> (you can skip docs and testfiles)
>
> apt-get -f install
> if some deps is broken
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ah forgot, then
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and
"ClamAV **was** going to break sooner or later **given the decision
to make it do so**"
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would have been viable.
The rest of your response rather reinforces Marks point.
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names, with the added bonus of being able to examine logs and
work out the scale of the problem - ie how many installations were
still accessing the old names vs the new names.
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k you for actually putting forward a reasoned
argument rather than just "can't be done". Now the external factors
have been pointed out, that is "somewhat harder" than it first
appears. See, contrary to what some people may be thinking, I can be
persuaded by **reasoned** debat
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the files it looks for.
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but other than that, why would someone turn off
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fact that they misused the victims actions to cause harm rather than
going and directly causing that harm first hand - the motive and end
results were identical, only the means differs.
Actions designed to cause harm to a computer system, and a criminal
offence in the UK.
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ail shouldn't stop
when ClamAV does - even though that is logically inconsistent with
the argument that old versions couldn't be allowed to continue
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some outside influence before he got around to upgrading it.
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ny) on the ethics of
issuing a kill signal to older software.
But it's a moot point - the team didn't do that, we are where we are,
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bility and consequences if they
continue to ignore the warnings that updates have stopped working. If
they ignore "things aren't working" errors then I'd agree with you -
let them deal with it. I don't agree with the argument that "things
are not
s to the older software.
So my preference would be simply that they "did nothing" to my
software. If they want to stop supporting it with updates, that's
fine and it still leaves me in control of what I run and when I
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> rm -f /var/log/clamav/*
>
> dpkg -i *.deb
> (you can skip docs and testfiles)
>
> apt-get -f install
> if some deps is broken
>
ah forgot, then
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running affected software. If any
project I *am* involved with suggested such a thing then I would
speak up on that.
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te aside, there have been cases (one was local-ish) where
there's been a "mix up" (for want of a better polite expression) and
a contractor has knocked the wrong house down. It usually results in
serious compensation - and some rather ne
ople who have not, and it
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The **ONLY** defence I can think of is that they assumed an implicit
permission by virtue of the user running the update process to fetch
signature updates. That's a very tenuous thing to infer when pushing
an update that is so different in purpose to what would normally be
fetched.
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uot;Whoops, I guess old versions can't handle
this. You better upgrade, sorry !" By warning people and releaseing a
known-bad signature with a message, somehow it's their fault now.
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here was no other possible way they
could have acted.
Even now when their stance has been shown to be full of logical
holes, they still persist that anyone disagreeing with their "we did
nothing wrong" stance are a bunch of whining losers.
That's how it comes
r.
If you want to use that one, it's more like a
major broadcaster deciding to go digital - and
then comeing round to blow up your radio to stop
you listening to the local station you actually
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AND, it was not the only option available to them - so there isn't
even any defence of it being absolutely necessary "for the public
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ld one. Being under an open licence, this one is available to all
- either like it or lump it, but either way, keep your insults to
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t version Apple provide I don't know - whilst I've run Xserves, I
wasn't using the mail on them and it was some time ago. AFAIK, Apple
do push updates to such third party packages with Software Update -
as far as the user is concerned, this is an Apple supplied package
and Apple
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en part of people's objections - apart from
choosing the option they did, at least in these threads, the argument
has been that "there was **NO** other option", which quite frankly
was never accepted as true or reasonable.
Lessons to be learned on both sides I think.
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And I do actually contribute to a number of FOSS projects - not in
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> 3) I can accept that software will go out of support - but I never
expected a Miscrosoft-esque remote shutdown.
You should have expected it 6 months ago when the announcement was made.
Well I could have if I'd seen that - but that ground's been covered
So ClamAV as a package won't silently 'not work' for the safety of
users - and this has been the justification for their approach to
this issue. But at the very same time they are recommending a setup
which will silently not scan mail if there's a probl
se threads have sounded like for those of
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he old vehicles off the owners drives without even ringing the
doorbell, and take them off to the crusher ?
They have a right, and a responsibility to try and make as many
owners/users aware of the risks - but it is still the owner/users
decision on whether that risk is acceptable TO THEM.
T
don't hurt themselves - it's long way down off a high
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poo-poo'd that as well ...
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7;ve already said several times, YES I HAVE AND YES THAT IS WHAT
I'VE DONE until I can fix it.
I can think of two other ways this could have been done, with very
little effort, and with little or no inconvenience to what you would
consider superior admins. That's irrelevant now,
nsible for it, because free or not, your a fhucking
criminal that want your hands cutting off and stuffing up your
arhsehole.
Oh dear, you started off so well, that sort of language does not help
your argument - in fact it simply makes it look like a rant from
someone with a lack
break from updates, than
I have had problems from not updating. In that respect, even with
this issue, it's not been too bad a return from the policy decisions
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Yes, I've learned that commercial companies don't have a monopoly on
these things !
I suppose I could just copy the guys running the Windows servers -
and just configure all the systems to automatically install any and
every update automatically. And then just fix things as they break -
h
only server I've got - hopefully I
won't have to do a bare metal recovery of any of my Xen hosts,
otherwise I've potentially quite a few machines to restore. I can of
course restore all of them as they were from regular backups - I
wouldn't want t
difference - I doubt I'm alone.
Jason Bertoch wrote:
It's broke
It is now
please go fix it.
I will, now I know about it. But it would have been nice to do it at
a more convenient time, and with advance notice so I could use it to
get some resource allocated by management.
e's anything new to be said.
Francis Stevens wrote:
It is possible to build clam on Sarge (I've just verified that is true).
If your going to try this next week the following may help...
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ersions of which
packages to roll back to (which had been deleted from the repos - now
I keep backup copies !)
So keeping up to date has it's own risks - hence why many people take
the attitude of "if it aint broke, don't fix it".
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#x27;;s like when others have to pick
up what they were doing from a cold start.
And then of course, there's an element of "which language" ?
It's one thing if I can just hit "make clean ; make" and it all works
- but when it doesn't - then being able to at least
f the day I've been forced to detect no virus's. Now I'm only
detecting the ones known about up till yesterday.
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x27;ve disabled
freshclam and rolled back the database to
yesterdays version.
Luckily it's not been a busy day today !
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Simon Hobson
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author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as
Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books.
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shit like this
happens it suddenly gets harder to justify OSS when one of your
vendors does exactly what you accuse the closed source outfits of
doing.
I can appreciate why it's been done, I just think it was done very badly.
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Simon Hobson
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