Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement - death roll

2018-12-07 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Forgot to mention that we still laugh about the second event as the helmsman was on his knees behind the wheel, waist deep in water, with the white of his eyes showing around his sunglasses. This after a Off Soundings race, heading from Gardner's Bay to Block Island, some ten years ago. Don

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement - death roll

2018-12-07 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Been there, done that! In the two instances was after racing, running home (both times 5 hour of sailing), crew relaxing with beers, helmsman being not that experienced. Each time dug the pole into the ocean.  First time bent the pole's closing pin at the mast and bent the mast fitting, both

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Running Rigging

2018-12-07 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Alan, I find that my 35 Mk2 is sensitive to crew forward  of the mast, thus the only time I like to have crew forward of the mast is for sail set ups and sail changes.  Thus in spinnaker take down I have one person in cabin and two hauling the chute down.  Normal racing crew is 6 or 7.  Also

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Awesome!!! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 8:03 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote: ...and here is everything else they've come up with so far:  https://maritimetees.net/search?q=C%26C Ken H. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 21:00, Ken Heaton wrote: Hats are here: 

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
...and here is everything else they've come up with so far: https://maritimetees.net/search?q=C%26C Ken H. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 21:00, Ken Heaton wrote: > Hats are here: https://maritimetees.net/products/c-c-yachts-hat > > Ken H. > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 11:04, Chris Graham via CnC-List < >

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Perfect!!!ThanksChris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 8:00 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote: Hats are here: https://maritimetees.net/products/c-c-yachts-hat Ken H. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 11:04, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Hi listers!  Quick question

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hats are here: https://maritimetees.net/products/c-c-yachts-hat Ken H. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 11:04, Chris Graham via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hi listers! > > Quick question for anyone out there who might know if there might be C > logo mugs available or even regatta hats

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Bruce Vineberg via CnC-List
Ok. What is price? Bruce Vineberg VICON REAL ESTATE SERVICES INC. Vicon Construction Enr. 334-300 RUE BERGE DU CANAL LACHINE, QUEBEC H8R 1H3 RBQ 5614 6228 01 514 987 0052 514 236 3767 cell www.vicon.ca On Dec 7, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Chris Graham

Stus-List Spinnaker Running Rigging

2018-12-07 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
My arrangement is similar to yours, Don. The spinnaker guy has a shackle with a large bale The sheet is attached to the guy and the guy is attached to the spinnaker clew. I have a two or three inch diameter disk on the guy just aft of the shackle which prevents the shackle from getting caught in

Stus-List tus-List C Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
You were holding them up side down...that's probably why the stuff kept falling out. Have a great weekend all.,.. At 01:02 PM 12/7/2018, you wrote: Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 21:01:40 + (UTC) From: Richard Bush To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C Logo mugs

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement - death roll

2018-12-07 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
In addition to what Don said, using the lazy guy instead of the sheet, pulls the clew down, and then you can even the clews by moving the pole down at the mast, easing the topping lift and tightening the foreguy. All of these adjustments move the center of effort down, further lessening the

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Jockey poles and reaching struts are the same thing, and legal. I’ll take it. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 5:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement These are what I consider outriggers.

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The topic of outriggers came up a while back and I asked specifically about any disclaimers for a reaching strut. I agree that it is a safety and rigging saving consideration as opposed to something that improves performance. I have not found an exception so it looks like it falls under the

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
These are what I consider outriggers. https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2017/01/20/vendee-globe-armel-le-cleach-around-the-world-solo-sailing-race-world-record-mainsail-orig.cnn Does that mean you don’t want my strut? Bill Coleman C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1 From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
FYI, from the RRS interpretative case law: Case 97 Rule 50.3, Setting and Sheeting Sails: Use of Outriggers A jockey pole attached to a spinnaker guy is not an outrigger. Question Is a jockey pole (a pole that exerts outward pressure on the line that controls the fore and aft position of a

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I was unaware of this Rule, which I just reviewed. It doesn’t make sense to me to bar a reaching strut, but it sure looks like you are correct. From: Michael Brown via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Michael Brown Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement - death roll

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I’m getting nervous just sitting here reading about it. In my view, it’s the scariest part of racing, and C of our vintage – at least mine – get pushed around by quartering waves, making a round up more likely. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:32 PM To: CnClist

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread schiller via CnC-List
I have a reaching strut out in the pole barn from my old Redwing 35 (C 35-1).  It breaks down into three pieces.  Anyone that is willing to pay shipping cost, it's yours. Neil Schiller C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC On 12/7/2018 12:03 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement - death roll

2018-12-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Our rule to minimize the possibility of a death roll is to NEVER, EVER let the center seam of the chute be to windward of the forestay in heavy breeze. That's on the guy trimmer. It's one of the few things one can do on Touche' where you get yelled at by me. Ease the pole forward so the center

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I had taken it from the RRS 50.3 that a reaching strut in not allowed in a race. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 13:53:44 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Wolford" Yes, the inboard end attaches to a fitting (usually a ring) on the mast.  There should be a fitting on

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
I race quite a bit (more than I cruise) and I have not used the reaching strut in years, though it carried below on the shelf above the v-berth.  We use both a sheet and a guy attached to each clue.  The sheet is lead to a turning blocks at the aft most opening on the toe rail, the guy is lead

Re: Stus-List C Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Guys, those mugs aren't all that great, I bought some  a few years back and when I got them they were empty!  I was sure there would be some coffee or tea, or ; (OK, it is Friday after all...) Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596: Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge

Re: Stus-List C Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thanks Steve!!!Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 11:51 AM, Steve Staten via CnC-List wrote: For future reference, cafepress.com will make coffee mugs, t-shirts and mousepads with whatever (tasteful) image you send to them. Surf their site and you will

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Hey Bruce!I don’t need 10 mugs but could split them with you ? Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 12:06 PM, Bruce Vineberg via CnC-List wrote: I am interested. Are still for sale? Bruce Vineberg VICON REAL ESTATE SERVICES INC. VICON CONSTRUCTION

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Yes, the inboard end attaches to a fitting (usually a ring) on the mast. There should be a fitting on each side, as you noted. The guy runs through the outboard end of the strut. The purpose is to improve the sheeting angle on a pole as it is let forward. (By the time the pole is near the

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I got a reaching strut with Alianna. Never used it but i thought its inboard end was supposed to attach to a ring on the mast. I have 2 rings one on either side of the mastthat seem like they were there for that purpose. Also got a blooper and also never used that. I am down to using only 2 sails

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
No clue. You can always paint it. Dennis C. On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:34 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That’s awesome – thanks. Do you know if it’s similar grade (thickness) > and anodized? > > *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, December

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Touche' has a very narrow stern so similar issue finding a fair lead for the guy. Touche' has a pad eye on the aft corner of the cockpit coaming where we attach a block to turn the guy to the winch. See: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ODrgzRQCFXcsabqslzNpjvXiCGEGly5C It isn't entirely fair

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
That’s awesome – thanks. Do you know if it’s similar grade (thickness) and anodized? From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 12:27 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Lots of old spin poles at places like Bacon's. Cut one down, switch ends. But a new tube might be cheaper. On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:28 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102 online at: > > >

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
My boat’s pretty beamy (round) in the middle. I think if I tweaked/twinged it would solve the stanchion issue from the tweak point forward, but I would need to re-run the line to avoid the same problem from the tweak point back to the winches. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday,

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102 online at: https://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=4740=4=inches=71_cat=0 Just make sure you are buying the correct ID and OD. Dennis C. On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I sold Touche's reaching strut to a fellow lister. He never used it. We use tweakers (twings). Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Listers: > > Different topic for the collective wisdom

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Bruce Vineberg via CnC-List
I am interested. Are still for sale? Bruce Vineberg [X] VICON REAL ESTATE SERVICES INC. VICON CONSTRUCTION 334-300 RUE BERGE DU CANAL LACHINE, QUEBEC H8R 1H3 RBQ 5614 6228 01 514 987 0052 ph 514 221 4302 fax 514 236 3767 cell br...@vicon.ca

Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Listers: Different topic for the collective wisdom of the group. The reaching strut that came with my boat did not match up with the deck mounts, both in terms of the end fittings and pole length. I bought replacement deck mount fittings and was going to mount them closer together, but

Re: Stus-List C Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Steve Staten via CnC-List
For future reference, cafepress.com will make coffee mugs, t-shirts and mousepads with whatever (tasteful) image you send to them. Surf their site and you will kill an afternoon. Steve Staten “C’ Est La Vie” C 26 Langley, Oklahoma On Friday, December 7, 2018, 11:33 AM, Robert Gallagher via

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Wow! Seriously?? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 11:33 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List wrote: I have 10 or so new in the box, old stock C logo mugs and a license plate frame (new) and a used license plate frame. Someone make me an offer for all.   

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Tervis makes customized drinkware. The Admiral has had good success with them. However, there may be a copyright issue. Not sure who, if anybody, owns the C logo now. Perhaps if you worked up a boat logo with your boat name and the C logo. Go here:

Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Robert Gallagher via CnC-List
I have 10 or so new in the box, old stock C logo mugs and a license plate frame (new) and a used license plate frame. Someone make me an offer for all. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is

Stus-List Stiff Steering

2018-12-07 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Steve, To echo Andrew’s suggestion, I’d look at doing a steering system inspection per the attached document. This is the Edson “bible” regarding understanding how the steering system goes together and what should be done on a regular basis to maintain it.

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Guys, Harken Rudder Bearings are different than the Delrin bearings installed on other boats. The Harken Bearings are roller bearings that have internal and external races and need to be replaced in pairs (upper and lower) to get proper alignment. Edson, for a while, made replacement

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Haha $1000 it is I’ll see what I can find. No luck up here where I live  Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 10:34 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Chris, I have a pair of C mugs, but given how rare they are, I couldn’t sell them to you for under

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thank you! I’ll check them out!  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 10:54 AM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List wrote: Try these guys  Maritime T-Shirt Company (maritimet...@gmail.com) -Original Message- From: Chris Graham via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Chris

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List
Try these guys  Maritime T-Shirt Company (maritimet...@gmail.com) -Original Message- From: Chris Graham via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Chris Graham Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2018 10:04 am Subject: Stus-List Logo mugs Hi listers!  Quick question for anyone out there who might know if there

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 155, Issue 27

2018-12-07 Thread Steve Martin via CnC-List
Yes, there is a small bit of play, I can move the rudder from side to side and front to back a couple mm's Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 10:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to     cnc-list@cnc-list.com To

Re: Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Chris, I have a pair of C mugs, but given how rare they are, I couldn’t sell them to you for under $500 apiece. :-) I also have a pair of C “baseball” hats. Same price. There are plenty of outfits online that can print anything on anything with no minimums. Suggest you use one of them. You

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Steve the first thought that comes to mind is a frozen sheave somewhere in the system. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 www.burtonsailing.com http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 7, 2018, at 09:38, Matthew L. Wolford

Re: Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread David via CnC-List
Josh, Get that. What I was going to do to keep this manageable is 1) record the call and make it available to all thereafter, 2) ask folks to submit questions prior and 3) incorporate any other suggestions that folks may have. David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401)

Stus-List Logo mugs

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Hi listers!  Quick question for anyone out there who might know if there might be C logo mugs available or even regatta hats with the C logo?  I still have my collection of Sabre and Albin Vega mugs, hats and tee shirts. I’d love to get some coffee mugs for the boat. Café Press had the Vega

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
A long time ago I experienced the same problem (hard to turn the wheel) on my Landfall 38. It turned out to be a misaligned upper bearing on the rudder shaft--the one that bolts thru the cockpit floor. It was an easy fix by my boatyard. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 -

Re: Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I'd be more interested in a transcript or recording so that I can review on my own time. I have an odd work schedule. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 9:13 AM David via CnC-List All, > > I was recently introduced to the gentlemen who sailed across the

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I am curious why you feel the need to undertake this project. Do you have too much play? What are the symptoms that concern you? On a related note, the day I hauled my 42 for the winter I noticed that the wheel was difficult to turn (it normally spins very freely). It felt like the Edson

Re: Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread John via CnC-List
I would very much appreciate that call. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List > wrote: > > Sure. > > From: Chris Graham via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 9:17 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Chris Graham > Subject:

Re: Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Sure. From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 9:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaker... Amazing! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 9:12 AM, David via CnC-List wrote: All, I was

Re: Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
I'm in...I'll be happy to assist gratuity wise if needed as wellJust thinking,  this person, and Antoine, the guy who did the Atlantic in a 39 a few years back would be excellent speakers at a rendezvous; there are others who have done Bermuda races etc Richard s/v Bushmark4:

Re: Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Amazing! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, December 7, 2018, 9:12 AM, David via CnC-List wrote: #yiv5881465944 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}All, I was recently introduced to the gentlemen who sailed across the Atlantic on his C 27 Mk 5 in 1992. He has graciously accepted

Stus-List Speaker...

2018-12-07 Thread David via CnC-List
All, I was recently introduced to the gentlemen who sailed across the Atlantic on his C 27 Mk 5 in 1992. He has graciously accepted my offer to have him speak of his experience to our group via conference call. Is there interest? David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401)

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I can't speak for the C 44, but the rudder bearings on my 37+ were Delrin. I used a jig saw and split the bearings at approximately 90 degrees apart. A couple of taps and the bearings came right out. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at