Stus-List Rudder woes

2024-05-10 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
Good morning all. I have a quick question for all y'all. Does anyone know the size of the bolt hole in the top of a 39 LF rudder, or whether it is metric or SAE? The hardware store is several miles away. I'm in the process of dropping my for much needed repairs. Thanks in advance Doug Douglas

Stus-List rudder grease fittings

2023-04-21 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
My 1989 34R had delrin bearings and back in 2004, I fixed the slight bit of play and hum by dropping the rudder, drilling the shaftlog and installing zerk fittings. I grease these bearings using a food grade synthetic grease. Major improvement and has worked for twenty plus years. Chuck S

Stus-List Rudder part needed Landfall 43

2023-01-09 Thread david coleman via CnC-List
Hello , After many decades of service our bottom rudder piton attachment failed.We are looking for a source to make or supply.Any leads would be appreciated greatly appreciated. TIA.If it matters Boat is in Georgia going to Florida.See pics attached for more detail. Thanks David Please show

Stus-List Rudder Post Grease Cup.

2022-04-25 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List
Hello all. I need to replace the grease cup on my rudder post. All rusted up and no longer functional. Does anyone have a source for them? Thanks! John McCrea Talisman 1979 36-1 Mystic, CT 06355

Stus-List Rudder issues

2022-01-05 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
Good morning everyone! Happy New Year! I've spent the last 2 weeks totally sanding Nina's bottom down to the gel coat in prep for a new paint job using The Black Widow from Pettit. I came across some issues with the rudder yesterday and was wondering if any of you have fixed similar. After

Stus-List Rudder shaft play

2021-11-20 Thread John Read via CnC-List
After 40 years the rudder now has a bit of play laterally and fore and aft. Bottom of rudder can be moved less than an inch in all directions. Not bad but should be addressed. This also is most likely causing the leak through the shaft where it penetrates the deck fitting causing the donut

Stus-List rudder seam

2021-04-24 Thread G Gao via CnC-List
Continuing my adventure with sailing and my boat...looking for advise from experienced sailors, as always... Today as I was observing the hull condition, I found that my rudder had the seam showing in this picture:

Stus-List Rudder post bearing for 33ii

2021-03-29 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
So, Mike and me was talkin’. Both our boats have had the rudder post bearing replaced - I was fortunate to have an almost intact original and was able to fabricate a pretty good replacement - mike was not so lucky and has a serviceable but temporary solution in play. I would like to

Stus-List rudder post fitting

2020-11-22 Thread pete.shelquist
I'm looking for drawings or description of the retaining nut at the top of the rudder post. Access is from the deck. Sorry I don't have a photo. There's a lot of play at that point and I'd like to take it apart to review/fix. While on the hard, I presume I need to support the rudder from

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-21 Thread Ian Tubby via CnC-List
25 mk > 1, I don't know if there's a rudder drawing, and if there is I don't know > if it would describe how it was manufactured. > > Anyway, if you want any photos or measurements taken of my rudders, or a > sketch that better describes the above, contact me off list. >

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-21 Thread MARK J GOVONI via CnC-List
t; From: Ian Tubby > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Evening Guys, > > New member here. I just bought a C 25 MK1 from an owner who frequented

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Ian Tubby via CnC-List
It really does help, thank you. I'll plan to do what you outlined and if I run into issues I may just message you directly. Ian Tubby Icicle C 25 Mk1 St. Pete, FL ke 19. elok. 2020 klo 21.48 Don Marlin via CnC-List (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) kirjoitti: > Stephen, I have built many rudders. I just

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Don Marlin via CnC-List
Stephen, I have built many rudders. I just finished a year building rudders for a living as a break from my normal gig. It was a nice sabbatical but quite demanding physically. If you want a nice rudder built for you contact Competition Composites, they build nice products. For a transom hung

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Ian Tubby via CnC-List
Dan, I actually have seen your videos before - you guys do a good job, very cool. It's different only because the 25's rudder wasn't originally foam cored like your's is. It's a plywood/balistol who-knows. So it isn't necessarily going to support a foam reconstruction. Hoping someone with a 25

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Dan via CnC-List
I opened my rudder, dried it, re-glassed and resealed it. We have a YouTube channel and I made a video about the entire process. Here is the link: https://youtu.be/Ryfjgdu_l4w Dan Cormier Breakaweigh C Grenada ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Ian Tubby via CnC-List
That's genius. I definitely will. Thanks Dennis. ke 19. elok. 2020 klo 18.16 Dennis C. via CnC-List (cnc-list@cnc-list.com) kirjoitti: > Just a crazy idea. Before you break it open, perhaps run a stud finder > over it. Mark any "hits". That may suggest a pattern to the structure of > the

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Just a crazy idea. Before you break it open, perhaps run a stud finder over it. Mark any "hits". That may suggest a pattern to the structure of the internals. Then again, it may show nothing. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM Ian Tubby via

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Ian Tubby via CnC-List
Thanks Joel, I'm familiar with Sail Life. Mads has a lot of great info on his channel. As does BoatWorksToday. I'm just wondering if the internal structure of the rudder would support foam as a rebuilding material. I guess I'll just wait until I can break the rudder open to see it for myself.

Re: Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-19 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Welcome to the list , it a great place to be Look up sail life and boatworkstoday on YouTube Mine seems to be a steel shaft inside Hopefully that helps I’m new at boat I’m rebuilding mine Joel mk1 30 On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:24 PM Ian Tubby via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

Stus-List Rudder Rebuild on C 25 MK1

2020-08-18 Thread Ian Tubby via CnC-List
Evening Guys, New member here. I just bought a C 25 MK1 from an owner who frequented this mailing list, who told me about this forum. What a great resource! I searched the archives however and could not find the answer to the questions I'm about to ask. Here goes. My transom hung rudder has a

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-16 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
<http://www.dellabarba.com>* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of >>> *CHARLES >>> SCHEAFFER via CnC-List >>> *Sent:* Monday, Ju

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-15 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
>> *CHARLES >> SCHEAFFER via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 10:59 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Rudder removal >> >> >> >> Hey Lewis, >> >> When I

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-15 Thread Lewis Cooke via CnC-List
.com] *On Behalf Of *CHARLES > SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 10:59 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Rudder removal > > > > Hey Lewis, > > When I dropped my rudder, I dug a

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-15 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 10:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Rudder removal Hey Lewis, When I dropped my rudder, I dug a hole and setup an egg crate as a fulcrum and caught the weight of the rudder with an eight foot long 2x8 plank

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-15 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Original message > > > From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > Date: 2020-06-14 22:00 (GMT-05:00) > > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-15 Thread Lewis Cooke via CnC-List
:16 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> You can even buy 'kits' for doing such repairs >> >> Marek >> >> >> Original message >> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List >> Date: 2020-06-14 22:

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-15 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > Date: 2020-06-14 22:00 (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder removal > > Joel, > > If the rudder bearings are worn, West Systems suggests the following fix >

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
You can even buy 'kits' for doing such repairs Marek Original message From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Date: 2020-06-14 22:00 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder removal Joel, If the rudder bearings are worn, West

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Joel, If the rudder bearings are worn, West Systems suggests the following fix on page 56: https://www.westsystem.com/wp-content/uploads/Fiberglass-Manual-2015.pdf Chuck S > On June 14, 2020 at 6:40 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List > wrote: > > Because there a play about 1/4” >

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hey Joel, We talked a little on the phone. (Joel just bought a 1973 C 30 located on Lake Ontario near the entrance to the Welland Canal.) Joel, How does the survey describe the rudder play? Is it 1/4" play in rudder shaft? Like if you pull the bottom tip of the rudder is moves 1/4" side to

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Play in the wheel? Play in the rudder when pulled side to side? If you are not more specific about which part you are trying to disassemble then we/I really can't offer more help. Sorry. Josh On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 18:41 Joel Delamirande via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Because

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Because there a play about 1/4” Specific questions how to take it apart On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 4:55 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Nope. Ya just have to take it apart. Is there a more specific question? > > The real question is why are you considering

Re: Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Nope. Ya just have to take it apart. Is there a more specific question? The real question is why are you considering replacing the bushing? They generally don't wear out. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 16:49 Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <

Stus-List Rudder removal

2020-06-14 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
I have a wheel on my boat, I would like to take off the rudder to change the bushing, Is there is an instruction step by step On the website or some can help On 30 mk 1 1973 -- Joel Delamirande *www.jdroofing.ca * ___ Thanks

Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing

2020-06-05 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
t; Delamirande via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2020 10:31:07 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Delamirande > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing > > Do u have a phone number? > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:52 AM Paul Fountain via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing

2020-06-05 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
416-525-4374. He’s busy now that launch is underway, So can be hard to reach. Paul From: CnC-List on behalf of Joel Delamirande via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 10:31:07 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Delamirande Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder

Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing

2020-06-05 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
-List Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 8:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Fountain Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing Talk to Roy Singh Roy's Marine Service, he's mostly at PCYC. He has a tool to press out the bearing without removing the shaft, and press the ne

Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing

2020-06-05 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
t; in. > > Paul > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Joel > Delamirande via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:54:07 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Delamirande > *Subject:* Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing > &g

Re: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing

2020-06-05 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Delamirande Subject: Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing Hi I’m Joël A new owner of whistler 2 I’m in the project of updating the boat, how do you make custom removal Tool for cutlass bearing It would be nice to have a video or dimensions to build one Or do i

Stus-List Rudder and cutlass bearing

2020-06-04 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Hi I’m Joël A new owner of whistler 2 I’m in the project of updating the boat, how do you make custom removal Tool for cutlass bearing It would be nice to have a video or dimensions to build one Or do i replace it Where can I get parts for the rudder it needs new bushingor new bearing -- Joel

Re: Stus-List Rudder axial play

2020-03-19 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
If these links work, here are a few photos of the washer at the top of our rudder. This is the washer between the blade and the hull (rudder tube bottom). https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kc6DcNVCBc5u3aYQ6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/NgVuYFUfcgKggkAn7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/QghU8K3wPqcke5Ai6

Re: Stus-List Rudder axial play

2020-03-19 Thread Alan Liles via CnC-List
Thanks for the responses, gentlemen. I’ll pull the radial quadrant to check the bearings, then, when I get hauled, I’ll look for the spacer bushing. I have a piece of Delrin I can cut a new bushing from. I’ll certainly be happier when the steering and rudder are all checked out. Al Liles SV

Re: Stus-List Rudder axial play

2020-03-18 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
In the case of Kaylarah ('90 C 37+) which should be the same design, the rudder hangs on two ball bearings on a transverse shaft that sit on top of a round metal bearing plate on top of the deck. The only thing that restricts upward motion is a Delrin shim washer that sits between the top of the

Re: Stus-List Rudder axial play

2020-03-18 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Ours is set up like Chuck's, thick derelin washer at the bottom between the blade and hull, and rollers on an axle that passes through the rudder tube, rolling on a metal disk at the top, all hidden from view under the Radial Drive Wheel (quadrant). One possibility is your rollers are missing

Re: Stus-List Rudder axial play

2020-03-17 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Our rudder has a 3/4" thick delrin washer that sits on the rudder shaft above the blade and under the hull. The weight of the rudder is supported by a set of rollers on a shaft that goes through the rudder shaft above the deck. There is also a metal wearing ring that the rollers ride on. I

Stus-List Rudder axial play

2020-03-17 Thread Alan Liles via CnC-List
Hello All, The rudder on my C 37/40 was clunking while running before a following sea. I removed the pedestal and cables to replace my idler plate and when I grabbed the radial quadrant atop the rudder post to check for play I found quite a bit (3/4"or so) of axial play (up and down). My question

Re: Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

2020-03-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Couple of concepts for you. First, using your stainless sleeve idea, explore a Helicoil. Many grease fittings are 1/8 NPT. https://www.amazon.com/Recoil-36028-Thread-Repair-Inserts/dp/B00KGO2DK0 A Helicoil (thread repair fitting) will give you increased hold in the fiberglass tube. I suspect

Re: Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

2020-03-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Clean, degrease and then mask the area as best you can before you begin. I would use an appropriately sized "end mill" that matches the outside diameter of a stainless or bronze (not brass or copper) pipe nipple. 1/4" or 3/8th pipe nipple would be appropriate. Unlike a drill bit the end mill

Re: Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

2020-03-08 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
There are 2 on my 35mkII grease cups i mean for the rudder post. I had one corrode away beyond removal as a whole so i cleaned up the residue with a drill lightly used and a tap a got 2 new grease cups from moyer marine. They sell the cups for the pump on the A4 at a considerable cost but made me

Re: Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

2020-03-08 Thread ssjohnson via CnC-List
When I had the rudder out I cleaned up the hole where the grease cap was, had a 5' 1/4" hydraulic hose made up by a local tractor service shop that had a fitting to go in the rudder post and a zero at the other end.  I used Wests 6/10 epoxy on the rudder post threads to just hand tight.  I ran

Re: Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

2020-03-08 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Sorry, can't answer your questions, but now you have me wondering if I should be looking for a grease nipple on my 35-2? I need to inspect the steering gear soon... -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:15 PM

Stus-List Rudder post zerk fitting

2020-03-07 Thread Paul Hood via CnC-List
I tried to grease the rudder post on my '81 C last year and the nipple when touched, fell out of the fibreglass and in my hands. I could see what appeared to be the stainless rudder post through the hole. I was going to enlarge the hole, put a larger stainless sleeve in first then insert a

Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-10 Thread Alan Liles via CnC-List
Many of our boat’s rudders are supported by Delrin bushings. Many of these parts have lasted a long time. When they need replacement I would suggest using Delrin AF. It’s PTFE impregnated Delrin, somewhat slipperier than the original. Alan Liles SV Elendil C 37/40+ Vancouver, BC

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-10 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
I used SuperLube, a white heavy duty synthetic grease - https://www.super-lube.com/multi-purpose-synthetic-grease-with-syncolon-ptfe Resistant to salt water. Has lots of other uses too. +1 to Delrin for the bearing disc. There's a grease fitting already in the rudder stock tube (mine had a

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-06 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
o: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38 > Message-ID: <56e8004f-4615-451e-bf53-1a303308e...@postaudio.net > <mailto:56e8004f-4615-451e-bf53-1a303308e...@postaudio.net>> > Content-Type:

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-06 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
On Prime Interest one of the set screws wasn't even tapped all the way through to the post. In any case I had great difficulty trying to remove that one. Eventually used a bolt removal set. The set screws were made of some very soft metal making removal painful. Removing the collar was a slow

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-05 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Simon — did you have any issues getting the Allen set screws loose on the upper collar, and getting it off? I’m facing dropping the rudder this winter, and would appreciate any guidance on this. Thanks! — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-05 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Ditto. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ed vanderkruk via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:16 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: ed vanderkruk ; Simon and Silvana Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-05 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
I made up a couple of discs from Delrin for a bearing. Ed Prime Interest C LF38 Toronto, Canada On Tue., Nov. 5, 2019, 7:45 a.m. Simon and Silvana via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have removed the rudder and would like guidance on the type of lubricant > to use in the lower

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-05 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
2019 7:53 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38 I use super lube synthetic grease on the rudder bearing. My LF38 has a grease nipple at the lower bearing with a hose attached...the hose is routed over to the stbd lazerette and has another gr

Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-05 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List
I use super lube synthetic grease on the rudder bearing. My LF38 has a grease nipple at the lower bearing with a hose attached...the hose is routed over to the stbd lazerette  and has another grease nipple attached to it. This setup allows me to easily grease the rudder from the

Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

2019-11-05 Thread Simon and Silvana via CnC-List
I have removed the rudder and would like guidance on the type of lubricant to use in the lower section where the rudder passes through the fibreglass tube. What is the best replacement material for the nylon (?) disc of the thrust bearing? Has anyone installed a grease fitting in the thrust

Stus-List Rudder Rebuild

2019-08-29 Thread Dan via CnC-List
I completed rebuilding my rudder on my C this summer and made a video about the process if anyone is interested on what these rudders look like under the glass and how to deal with them yourself when they go bad. You can check out the video here on youtube:

Re: Stus-List Rudder maintenance

2019-08-19 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
; To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder maintenance > Message-ID: <2002435062.234192.1566245484...@connect.xfinity.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Charlie, > > I will send a more detailed email later but grease fitting

Re: Stus-List Rudder maintenance

2019-08-19 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Charlie, I will send a more detailed email later but grease fittings would make a nice upgrade since our boats' rudders have a stainless shaft riding in delrin bearings glassed in a fiberglass tube. Something is wearing; the delrin or the stainless. Grease can fill the gap and provide great

Stus-List Rudder maintenance

2019-08-19 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Hello all; The rudder on my 1995 C XL/kcb has started 'squeaking' a little and my recently installed hydraulic auto-pilot motor has sent motor overload messages via the controller. Many years ago, I had a wheel pilot (since deceased) that worked well but I have hand-steered for the last 15

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-05-09 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 9:16 AM To: cnc-list Cc: Matthew Schlanger Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 Here's my update: I got a hold of stainless steal zerk fittings and screwed one

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-05-09 Thread Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List
> ½” thich than ¼”, so no problems. >> >> >> Rick Brass >> >> Washington, NC >> >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of CHARLES >> SCHEAFFER via CnC-List >> Sent: Satu

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-28 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:45 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 > > > > Hi Bruce, > You

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-28 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 Hi Bruce, You didn't state if you drilled the fiberglass casing with the rudder still in the boat? How did you drill through the delrin bearings without drilling into the SS rudder post? C

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-27 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
let. > > Original message > From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > Date: 4/26/19 5:17 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 > > I don't think it's

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-27 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Date: 4/26/19 5:17 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 I don't think it's practical to add zerk fittings while the rudder is in the boat. In 2007, I had the rudder out of the tube and so

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Going to do this very thing Monday. I just greased the Maxprop. Removed the two set screws and tried to thread in a zerk fitting(grease nipple). Of course I forgot the prop was Italian and bought sae standard thread fittings. Got the metric and the rest was easy. Darn prop took almost an

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
C. via > CnC-List > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 4:07 PM > To: CnClist > Cc: Dennis C. > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 > > There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings. > > > https://greaseexte

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
tream Associates, LLC* > > > *(401) 419-4650 * > > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 4:07 PM > *To:* CnClist > *Cc:* Dennis C. > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 >

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3 There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings. https://greaseextensionhoses.com/product/custom-length-grease-fitting-relocation-hose/ Only problem with that one is you have to drill and tap the cap for 1/8 NPT thread. Dennis C. Does

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings. https://greaseextensionhoses.com/product/custom-length-grease-fitting-relocation-hose/ Only problem with that one is you have to drill and tap the cap for 1/8 NPT thread. Dennis C. >> Does anyone know the fitting size and

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
That is the grease cap. In Siri you can unscrew the top and squeeze grease into it. The whole thing may unscrew and you can separate it when it is out. On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:52 PM Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Getting excited about getting back on the

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
You'll have to drill and tap the cap for a grease fitting. Make sure you buy/order a grease fitting with a thread size and pitch you can tap. They come in SAE, metric, tapered, straight, etc. I recommend you buy a stainless fitting. They are readily available online. mscdirect sells them. If

Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List
Getting excited about getting back on the water. but... I have a dumb question, and I see there are other posts about the rudder squeaking, some were thinking the same as was suggested to me locally, extend the fitting with a hose. Can I be confident that the squeaking issue is simply a grease

Stus-List Rudder rebuild

2019-04-23 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
As I mentioned the other day, a friend rebuilt his Jeanneau rudder. I now have a bunch of pictures of the process in case anyone wants a blow-by-blow. I must say, as I didn't see it after he took it home for the task, just how rotten it was. I don't know that any of the C rudders are made up of

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-02 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
In some cases it seems C did both hollow tube and solid bar, at the same time. On a construction drawing for the C 37 R and 37+, dated 1990, it shows the rudder post to be: "3.15" O.D x 1.97" I.D. Hollow S.S. Bar w.2" dia. S.S. Round Bar pressed and welded" with the 2" round bar extending out

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
So there are C out there with both solid and tube stocks. The ideal tube for rudder posts was Schedule 160 pipe. But, when you phone up a supplier and ask for some, he says 'How many thousand feet would you like. That's a special order you know' . . . . . So, you end up balancing between a

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List
oun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 1:26 PM To: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material   Both of my C, a 27 MKIII and our current 37/40+ have solid shafts.  I would be shocked if it was

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
weighing 12-14,000 pounds? Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 1:26 PM To: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material Both

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List
should have more info.     From: CnC-List On Behalf Of WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:57 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material   Lake Michigan PHRF is asking whether my rudder shaft is solid stainless or hollow

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread Pete Shelquist via CnC-List
WALKER via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:57 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material Lake Michigan PHRF is asking whether my rudder shaft is solid stainless or hollow stainless. Any one know with sufficient confidence? 1981 C & C 36

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
-List To: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Cc: Bruce Whitmore Sent: Fri, Mar 1, 2019 1:26 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material Both of my C, a 27 MKIII and our current 37/40+ have solid shafts.  I would be shocked if it was not solid. Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread coltrek--- via CnC-List
I think the only way it would be solid, is if the previous owner had it made up aftermarket , and for some reason they put a solid shaft in. But that would be just crazy. Bill On Friday, March 1, 2019 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List wrote: Lake Michigan PHRF is asking whether my rudder shaft is

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Both of my C, a 27 MKIII and our current 37/40+ have solid shafts.  I would be shocked if it was not solid. Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.

Re: Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Every hollow shaft I've seen appears as a pipe. Being that you can look down the end of it. If the ends are capped with welded covers then the welds are evident. It's also pretty common to have some type of bolt or rod extend through the shaft for a number of different purposes. If you can

Stus-List Rudder Shaft Material

2019-03-01 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List
Lake Michigan PHRF is asking whether my rudder shaft is solid stainless or hollow stainless.  Any one know with sufficient confidence? 1981 C & C 36 Bill Walker Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
. Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 35 Landfall Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 8:04 AM To: C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions... I can't speak for the C 44, but the rudder

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
(it normally spins very freely). It felt like > the Edson pedestal brake was on, but it wasn’t. Any thoughts on what may > have caused the resistance? > > From: Steve Martin via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 10:14 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Ste

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
> From: Steve Martin via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 10:14 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Steve Martin > Subject: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions... > > > C 44 with spade rudder and harken top bearing... > How much play is too much and does any

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
pedestal brake was on, but it wasn’t. Any thoughts on what may have caused the resistance? From: Steve Martin via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 10:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Martin Subject: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions... C 44 with spade rudder and harken

Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I can't speak for the C 44, but the rudder bearings on my 37+ were Delrin. I used a jig saw and split the bearings at approximately 90 degrees apart. A couple of taps and the bearings came right out. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at

Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-06 Thread Steve Martin via CnC-List
C 44 with spade rudder and harken top bearing...How much play is too much and does anyone know sizes and how to remove upper and lower bearings... and any other info on what I might be in for tackling this job...Thanks Sent from Yahoo Mail on

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
That little squirt is how I know I have enough! On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 3:46 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List Al little grease squirts out around the shaft. No big deal. :) > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > ___ > > Thanks everyone for

Re: Stus-List Rudder squeak

2018-11-07 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
Al little grease squirts out around the shaft.  No big deal.  :)Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone null___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to

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