As subject implies I have proposal I fear might lead to long flamewar. I
hope I'm wrong.
Given these assumptions/facts:
1) We want to copy stuff from unofficial wiki to official wiki when it
becomes available.
2) Unofficial wiki doesn't have any copyright statement
1) looks legally problematic
Dave Crossland wrote:
On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to
go?
I believe so. From
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007
I thought I read something a while ago that the first generation Neo
_wasn't_ going to be multitouch capable, and it hasn't been mentioned
in the specs recently - does anyone know definitively either way?
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/24/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PRO
I thought I read something a while ago that the first generation Neo
_wasn't_ going to be multitouch capable, and it hasn't been mentioned
in the specs recently - does anyone know definitively either way?
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/24/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PRO
On 1/24/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What about the multi-point touch screen? It's wonderful, but
doesn't Apple have a patent on that?
I would have thought that whoever owns copyrights for Star Trek should
win prior art for multitouch - the software UI for the transporter
conso
I don't want to keep this on this list too long unless people are
interested in the conversation.
I want gui a) because i can, and b) because i intend to have onboard
display of things such as integrating GPS w/ google maps for location
and directions.
This is also a testbed project for furt
How embedded did you want to go. You mentioned wanting a gui; is
there a reason there? If you don't absolutely need the gui then look
into something like a soekris board such as that used in the stompbox
(google it), or if you NEED a gui maybe you should look into
something like a mini itx
Guys,
please have a bit patience, all bits will fall into place soon and one
step after another.
An openmoko-devel mailing list is right on the agenda, but we thought
it would be of little use unless there is some actual hardware out
[which is our #1 priority atm.]
You are right though, the comm
really off topic ... i'm looking for a full featured embedded system to
install in my car and truck. i.e. run linux shell+gui onboard and have
wifi + gsm network etc.
any recommendations for products, or pitfalls of some products for this?
thank you,
david
__
I know its idiocy to reply to ones self but I wanted to correct my
bias. If you have experience that could help the project, please
post. Otherwise just chill and all of your questions will be answered
in the official wiki or via google. There is too much noise and it is
detrimental.
On J
NOTE: please send mails in text format
Marc Verwerft wrote:
>The chip in the Neo1973 is a Global Locate AGPS. Anybody know what type?
>Hammerhead maybe?
I think Sean already confirmed that it is indeed the Hammerhead
chipset.
Regards,
:M:
--
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www
+1 on openmoko-dev, or a new rule. If you have not read through the
last months threads; or worked with an embedded linux target before;
shhh.
On Jan 24, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Kent Karlsson wrote:
I vote +1 on a openmoko-dev list.
-- kent
On 24 jan 2007, at 14.42, Corey wrote:
I'm more than
I think I've had a change of heart. Ted Lemon and Joe Pfeiffer (and
maybe others? I don't really know how to use these mailing lists well.)
pointed out that a folding, separate keyboard could be the way to go.
After a bit of thought, I decided they're right. Keep the phone just
the way it is.
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 23:09 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote:
> All,
>
> I've been reading on this lists for some time now and saw that there
> are quite intelligent people here ;-)
> I am not very up to date in my knowledge of GPS. Can somebody answer
> me a couple of quick questions?
> 1. Has an
Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 00:17 schrieb Dave Crossland:
>
> The presence of a proprietary userland binary in the main/official
> distribution makes it a crippled device which actively impose upon our
> Freedoms.
>
IMHO the right way to deal with this particular problem is to break
the GL comm
On 24/01/07, Dominik Smogór <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is FIC in talks with some company now? I'm sure that OSS devs will put a
fervent effort to write/adopt a free replacement and I'm sure they (we, If I
manage to get some time off) will succeed, but it's the data that matters
and I don't know o
On 24/01/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If we were to lose the FSF perspective at any stage down the road, then
we could end up only able to buy highly sophisticated yet crippled
devices which actively impose upon our Freedoms. Like now, but worse.
In that sense, I imagine the Ne
I vote +1 on a openmoko-dev list.
-- kent
On 24 jan 2007, at 14.42, Corey wrote:
I'm more than certain that the OpenMoko crew is extremely busy with
many
important efforts right now, but it should be a very simple task to
open a
new mailing list. Doing so - sooner than later - would be hu
Salve Sean!
Thanks for letting use those pictures. But in order to be _absolutely_ sure,
the wikipedia people would like something more formal. Please have a look at
this page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Email_templates and send
them the 'declaration of consent' in the rectangle if
I'm more than certain that the OpenMoko crew is extremely busy with many
important efforts right now, but it should be a very simple task to open a
new mailing list. Doing so - sooner than later - would be hugely beneficial
in the immediate sense, as it would diversify the list traffic so that the
No apologies necessary. I didn't think you meant it in any negative way - I
was just expanding on more options.
Sorry if my comment "None of us are on our own" came across as an attack on
you. I certainly didn't mean it that way.
Keep up the great work!
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrot
Am Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2007 23:09 schrieb Marc Verwerft:
>
>2. The chip in the Neo1973 is a Global Locate AGPS. Anybody know what
>type? Hammerhead maybe?
It is probably the same chipset as in ipaq hw6[59]15:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SableGPS
>3. I understand
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 23:00, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał:
> Thanks for the hint!
Please reply UNDER post.
> Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build
> host) format too for running under xoo or are they built only in the
> target format (armv4t IIUC)?
MACHINE = "nati
Michael,
English is not my native tongue and I certainly didn't mean we wouldn't help
anybody out. I just meant that we as a community have nothing more than this
list and the wiki for now. So apologies for that.
Regards,
Marc.
On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
None of
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 21:05, David Ford wrote:
> Please do not personally CC: me on this silly thread. I am subscribed to
> the list.
I think this is a problem for people using Outlook or Gmail, that don't seem
to handle mailing lists very well, so where most people can just
click 'reply'
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 22:58 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make
> a sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned
> this:
> * http://projects.openmoko.org/ -- for user-contributed projects <--
All,
I've been reading on this lists for some time now and saw that there are
quite intelligent people here ;-)
I am not very up to date in my knowledge of GPS. Can somebody answer me a
couple of quick questions?
1. Has anybody here ever used AGPS? I'd like to hear your experiences.
2. The c
None of us are on our own.
I would say use this mailing list, assuming, of course, that you're not
writing a complicated application and would post thousands of lines of code.
But for simple applications I think most of us would welcome the technical,
practical content.
And of course any results
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:59 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
> "Threat to unregister" I never knew you considered me to be such a
> valuable asset. I posted pretty much exclusively to the GNU/Linux or
> Linux related threads.
The point of a community is that everyone has something to contribute.
>
Thanks for the hint!
Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build host)
format too for running under xoo or are they built only in the target
format (armv4t IIUC)?
(Can't find gpe-watch native after a "bitbake gpe-watch". Well, sounds
sensible, I did not ask for it - but I am
The same temporary wiki will be the place for all things until the official
wiki is available. There are no sample application yet (at least not when I
last looked), so you can be the first!
We could also use simple step-by-step instructions for setting up the
envirnment, rather than just the poi
Jonathan,
Probably, you're on your own right now. If I were you, I wouldn't make a
sourceforge project yet as in the announcement of Sean he mentioned this:
Also, at this time, the following community dedicated websites
will be available:
* http://openmoko.org/ -- for the actual develo
Dominik,
Something similar has already been discussed here. See
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001242.html and
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001084.html
From the last one I understand that Sean (in the long run) will try to make
a GPS nav
Thanks and will do...working on getting OpenEmbedded installed as we
speak/type.
One question though. Is there any collaborative place for apps right
now? Or is it pretty much every man for himself until they release the
source? Meaning, say I start on a simple app, but want feedback. Do I
nee
Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 22:26, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał:
> As someone else said, we've been asked to do some homework with the
> OpenEmbedded.org build system. Maybe that was just to reserve adequate
> space on the hard drive... (takes a lot!)
Add:
INHERIT += "rm_work"
into conf/local.conf
Jonathan,
If you visit the wiki that Marc refers to, you will find entries for the build
enviroment and emulators, so you can start writing, compiling, and testing
simple programs.
M
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Marc Verwerft wrote:
Jonathan,
Things are gonna stay this way till OpenMoko opens up t
Having gps and highres screen on board suggets that the phone is well poised
for standalone GPS nav devices.
This alone makes it worth buying, what troubles me however is whether/when
there will be a quality vector map software available for it.
Is FIC in talks with some company now? I'm sure that
ke, 2007-01-24 kello 15:05 -0500, David Ford kirjoitti:
> I don't wish to continue this ludicrous debate [...]
> Those of you that threaten to unsubscribe from the list because others
> of us choose not to follow your religion or keep debating.
First of all, if you're too emotional to see that wh
Le mercredi 24 janvier 2007 à 14:34 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
> I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming
> across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is
> there another list that is focused more on the development side of things?
I e
Le mercredi 24 janvier 2007 à 12:27 -0800, Pranav Desai a écrit :
> On 1/24/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
> > > see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC fi
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 14:34 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote:
> I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming
> across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is
> there another list that is focused more on the development side of things?
>
> I'm a litt
Jonathan,
Things are gonna stay this way till OpenMoko opens up their
website/wiki/bugzilla etc.
See also
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html
All we have are the basic hardware description and some hints on the
software. The rest is guesswork for now.
Till then y
Salve Sam!
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote:
> I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
In case that I would have kids, I wouldn't either,
it is because of the price, but also because it isn't rough enough.
Some more stuff for kids:
see my mail "OpenMoko/Neo1973 i
I'm a computer engineer and want to get involved. All I'm seeing coming
across this mailing list is feature requests, basic inquiries, etc. Is
there another list that is focused more on the development side of things?
I'm a little lost on how this project is structured. Can someone please
eith
On 1/24/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
> see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to
> go?
I believe so. From
http://lists.o
Not sure if this fits the bill, but:
Gnash is a GNU Flash movie player
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote:
> Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
I wondered a
Here is my reason for using the term "GNU/Linux".
It's fair to both the Linux developers and to the GNU project.
Why is it fair?
Well so far I have yet to see either a Linux userland or a
GNU kernel so it's a MIXED environment and should be treated
like that.
There are also other MIXED environm
Please do not personally CC: me on this silly thread. I am subscribed to
the list.
I don't wish to continue this ludicrous debate because the agenda
pushing doesn't belong on this list and there's no point to it when
"free software" is "only the idea of free software as established by GNU
in
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
> > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement
> > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation
> > for Ubiquitous Computing - I t
On 1/24/07 11:47 AM, "Koen Kooi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd certainly push for gstreamer...
As would I, but sometimes you've just gotta get things out the door...
I'd assume that when FIC gets hardware out, someone'll make it run gstreamer
in pretty short order.
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Christian F.K. Schaller schreef:
> Hi everyone,
> Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone
> I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support.
>
> The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/24/07 11:03 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
> > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement
> > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation
> > for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's right, but this positive message
> > was compl
On 24/01/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to
go?
I believe so. From
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001586.html
:
I'm starting to get excited about the phone, and I really don't want to
see my hopes dashed. Has an FCC filing been made, is the phone ready to
go? What about the multi-point touch screen? It's wonderful, but
doesn't Apple have a patent on that?
Dunc
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On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
> On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation
> > instead?
>
> So freedom has nothing to do with it?
>
>
On 1/24/07 11:03 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel..
>>
>> No, they're certai
From a personal standpoint I'd like to see a camera in the next version,
because I use the 2MP one in my phone very frequently. It's handy to have a
camera of some sort with me 100% of the time to catch random events - of
course it doesn't replace a real camera for situations where I can plan to
Well, but what about any free-lessons?
I know your problem very well, being a student myself.
I tried to solve it like you did, coding an application which
selects - depending on the cell-id my phone supplies - the
right profile. But I often get calls in times we have no school.
The phone just don
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel..
No, they're certainly not. However, "GNU" _is_ and they're failing to give
appropriate credit to th
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote:
> On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation
> > instead?
>
> So freedom has nothing to do with it?
>
> I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff fr
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote:
I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
Not yet, no.
My daughter gets my current phone as soon as I get the Neo 1973 (unless my
wife wants it - she has priority.) My daughter gets my Neo V1 when V2 comes
out!
My goal of a
On 1/24/07 10:20 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as I am aware, OpenMoko is not using the GNU/CMU Mach kernel..
No, they're certainly not. However, "GNU" _is_ and they're failing to give
appropriate credit to the "principal developer" of their system. So on what
basis
ke, 2007-01-24 kello 18:16 +, Al Johnson kirjoitti:
> Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
In the context of getting video off of youtube or some other video
sites, eg. keepvid.com offers a service that deciphers the .flv (or what
have you) URL from the main site
On 1/24/07, Raymond Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Declan Naughton wrote:
> On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> Better still, tell yo
Richard Franks wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote:
Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks
like options may be available.. although I gather the standard approac
I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
Some of the high schools here have really strict rules against kids
getting calls in class. I can understand it, but 1)Sometimes I need to
contact my daughter and 2)She can't always remember how she left the
ringer (on/off)
So
Interesting information - thanks for the links & correction! :)
On 1/24/07, Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I keep seeing people say that the only Cellphone companies that will
support OpenMoko are Cingular and T-Mobile. I feel like I need to
correct thi.
Cingular and T-Mobile are
That is brilliant. As the parent of an 11-year old, I'd want a highly
configurable profile:
* Allow calls to/from (parents/grandparents/babysitter/etc.) anytime
* Allow calls to/from (list of friends) between 4pm and 9pm weekdays, 10-10pm
weekends only
* Allow a maximum of (x) outgoing calls to
I'm working on augmented reality (marker based) platform for mobiles,
and OpenMoko looks interesting. However lack of camera is a bummer. Are
there any interes for the camera in the next version, or I'm only one
who would like to see it ? Camera have other uses too like barcode
reading, may be
Declan Naughton wrote:
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics"
here, go
>> and get t
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:16 +, Al Johnson wrote:
> Getting a flash-capable browser will be another problem entirely...
I wondered about that before posting, but I found this link, so it looks
like options may be available.. although I gather the standard approach
is to have the manufacturer ne
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:33 -0600, Paul Jimenez wrote:
> How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for
> 'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures?
Nice idea - I see where you're going with this, not making it too
complex.. for slightly
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation
instead?
So freedom has nothing to do with it?
I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean alright,
but IF you just wrote an apt description of "our Agenda"
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go
>> and get the folks at "GNU" to chang
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:55, Richard Franks wrote:
> The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and
> desist - "YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos
> available on mobile phones":
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/youtube_blocks_m
On 1/24/07 9:51 AM, "Declan Naughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go
>> and get the folks at "GNU" to change the name of their system to "GNU/Mach"
>> and _then_ come
The distinction may become more relevant if you get hit with a cease and
desist - "YouTube has blocked a small company from making YouTube videos
available on mobile phones":
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/youtube_blocks_mobile_video_encoder/
If we have a browser with Flash support capab
On 1/24/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Better still, tell you what: since you're all about the "ethics" here, go
and get the folks at "GNU" to change the name of their system to "GNU/Mach"
and _then_ come back to talk to _us_.
I might ask about that alright.
Why don't you ha
Yeah.. I was using the accelerometer in my example to tell the program
what the phone orientation was so that you could limit distance without
having to touch the interface. If you had it set up to run from a free
external button, you could push it
And orient the phone and point and the phone c
How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for
'mommy', 'daddy', etc ? Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures?
--pj
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On 1/24/07, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It would be ideal to have a 3 axis accelerometer and a 3 axis
tilt sensor like the wii. Apparently the wii controller uses an IR
sensor to keep itself oriented relative to the game console; since the
phone doesn't have IR this wouldn't be possi
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:55, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
>
> The accelerometer can allow you to know what directions the phone
> "went", and 3d orientation (rotations and stuff). The compass, would
> just be for "calibration", because you can trust them all them time
> (just put a
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, "Dave Crossland" wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> On 23/01/07, David Ford wrote:
>> You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states
>> "in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU." He also
>> clearly stated "We'll just call it OpenMoko."
>
> Co
Hi,
Sometime ago there was a patch for Dillo (when it was still alpha) for
supporting SSL. However, I don't know of any open-source browser for
embedded systems based on GTK+ 2 that supports SSL and Javascript, so this
could be an interesting project.
Pedro Aguilar
> Perhaps, but:
>
> - They see
On 1/24/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:04, Tim Newsom wrote:
> For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass
> module in the phone
I think that's actually the only thing you really need for it to work. Not
sure how an
Hi everyone,
Reading the documents I found so far on OpenMoko and the upcoming phone
I am wondering what the plans are around Multimedia support.
The stack of OpenMoko do share a lot with Mameo, but nothing is
specified in terms of the multimedia side apart from saying that there
is a 'media play
The other major problem - if FIC made a CDMA OpenMoko phone, Verizon
would have to explicitly allow it's use, which would probably not
happen. Verizon has a tight level of control over phones - they will
have their own UI installed and Bluetooth file transfers etc turned
off.
Simply, Verizon['s
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:04, Tim Newsom wrote:
> For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass
> module in the phone
I think that's actually the only thing you really need for it to work. Not
sure how an accelerometer would help figuring out what direction t
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:15, Dave Crossland wrote:
> I feel it is misleading to describe code distributed in the 1960s and
> 70s as 'free software' - because software freedom was not recognised
> or enshrined.
Ok, now that's just being ridiculous.
And besides, the BSDL predates the GPLv1
Could you just drop this line of discussion, or pursue it off-list...? If
they refer to it as "Linux" they'll be in line with pretty much every major
_Linux_ distribution out there.
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> On 23/01/07, David Ford <[EMAIL PRO
Gosh, why does this fail to surprise me?
Didn't you get to say your piece already? Why don't you harass the Ubuntu
folks with this, hm? There are many more folks calling it "Linux" than
"GNU/Linux", and very few people who seem to care strongly about your
over-developed sense of "history" and "eth
I keep seeing people say that the only Cellphone companies that will
support OpenMoko are Cingular and T-Mobile. I feel like I need to
correct thi.
Cingular and T-Mobile are not the only GSM carriers, they are the only
NATIONAL GSM carriers.
In fact, there are 62 GSM based carriers in the Unite
I wasn't asking if it made sense, just if anyone knew if I could use the
phone on Verizon. No need to defend the decision to just use GSM...I
personally leave the blame on Verizon for not keeping up with technology.
thanks though,
-mark
> It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset jus
Well, obviously I'd be better of just canceling my Verizon account so that
I can transfer my number to a carrier that supports GSM.
Thanks for the info!
> or just buy another account on another carrier ;) get their 'cheapest'
> plan.
>
> But I believe the Neo will only work on Cingular & TMobile
On 23/01/07, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- Free software existed before GNU
- Free software philosophies and movements existed before GNU
- Free software will continue to exist after GNU
- Free software philosophies and movements will continue to exist after GNU
- GNU is not the One Tr
Hello,
I like your idea of spell weaving very much. Unfortunately...
Latest word seems to be that Neo1973 will be single touch only and
this
is hardware limitation.
...which is sad. I suppose the neo1973 is using a resistive
touch-screen. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Technologi
It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset just for the USA,
it's a dieing technology and GSM is more widely operated in almost all
countries outside of the USA.
Regards,
Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
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or just buy another account on another carrier ;) get their 'cheapest' plan.
But I believe the Neo will only work on Cingular & TMobile in the US.
On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just wanted to see if anyone knows whether or not the OpenMoko phone would
work with Veriz
For GeoPointing to work right, you would also need an electronic compass
module in the phone Right? Cause accelerometers don't know which
direction your pointing and gps isn't probably accurate enough to derive
what you pointed at when you moved it maybe 2 or 3 feet during the
gesture.
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