Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

Writing as myself, Without answering for Alan, and purely writing this because to my knowledge the only attempt at a bylaw change under the current bylaws was made by myself in Tunis, My understanding (and using the process that I used last time to propose and attempt bylaw changes, and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment

eneral Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Date: Thursday, 16 June 2016 at 9:41 PM To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment On 16 Jun 2016 21:19, "Andrew Alston" <

Re: [Community-Discuss] post ipv4 depletion frauds, brokers activities

the smallest to the biggest, with no exceptions. That’s just my personal opinion though. Andrew On 26/06/2016, 2:35 PM, "Nishal Goburdhan" <nis...@controlfreak.co.za> wrote: On 25 Jun 2016, at 15:49, Andrew Alston wrote: > Just need to point out, RPKI is a *choice*, and

Re: [Community-Discuss] post ipv4 depletion frauds, brokers activities

Noah, Isn't it obvious now. That the IPv4 market is a multimillion venture out there. Can you explain and expand on this a bit more? Because it’s far from obvious to me what you are implying here. Andrew ___ Community-Discuss mailing list

[Community-Discuss] Thoughts and introspection

ts. Yours Sincerely Andrew Alston AfriNIC community member ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

[Community-Discuss] Question

Hi All, Speaking as a resource member. I am seeing very many vague references to changing the legal structure of AfriNIC. Let us get a little less vague here – exactly what structure are the people who are talking about this proposing? What are they looking for? Let’s get a lot more

Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1

Timothy, Let me clarify. I said I would support a hypothetical dramatic rise in fees. I never said there had already been one. Please let us not confuse the two issues. The allocation fee issue is an entirely separate issue and unrelated to my comments (though I support that as well!)

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

ecution is hallucination.” ― Thomas A. Edison On 29 Jun 2016, at 3:49 pm, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: Alain, As much as we can have a community discussion about this, this is still a member vote issue. I see

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment

sment Can we stay discussion and consensus oriented here instead of “…. I would vote against” ? Thanks —Alain On Jun 28, 2016, at 11:56 PM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: Comments below Please note – I am post

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

+1 Such restrictions do not impact of the proxy holder they impact on the member and the members right to choose who they trust and who they wish to invest with the power to speak for and vote for them. What right do we have to dictate such to the members? Why should a member not be free to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

+1 Mark, I would have thought this was pretty plain – it’s a global practice in business and I’d be surprised if people who have stood on boards and other such things hadn’t seen this fairly often, its enshrined in every company act I’ve ever read. It’s the same way with shareholder meetings

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

Correct – I think what Alan meant here (and he can correct me if I am wrong) is that the limitation does not apply to special resolution voting for example. It is specifically limited to ELECTION voting – any election. Thanks Andrew On 29/09/2016, 19:03, "ALAIN AINA"

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

u.nt...@nftconsult.com> wrote: >> On 29 Sep 2016, at 5:30 PM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote: >> >> Correct – I think what Alan meant here (and he can correct me if I am wrong) is that the limitation does not apply to special resol

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

and choose here. Just my thoughts… Andrew On 29/09/2016, 21:29, "Alan Barrett" <alan.barr...@afrinic.net> wrote: > On 29 Sep 2016, at 22:09, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote: > > I am also far from convinced that the limitation on p

Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] IPv6 in Zimbabwe

le network? GNALOU Mazama-esso skype: mgnalou 00228 90 39 82 83 00228 22 34 38 82 2016-09-29 13:50 GMT+00:00 Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>>: In this particular case they are Huawei ONT’s. So not exactly a regul

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

just don’t see it ever happening – but if we want to be paranoid and protect against it – limiting proxies certainly won’t do that. Andrew From: Boubakar Barry <boubakarba...@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 4 October 2016 at 23:00 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Hyth

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

ut restrictions) or via electronic voting. On 30/09/2016 19:13, Badru Ntege wrote: > Andrew > > On 30 Sep 2016, at 5:30 pm, Andrew Alston > <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> > <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - committee

As regards the quorum figure – Please keep in mind that in RIR history most RIR’s average far less than 10%. If the number is two high – there are implications for that – which I’m going to leave people to figure out for themselves. But I will say this – beware of what you ask for – you may

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

Hi Alan, No objection to any of these - however, Item 11 as regards the modification to the bylaws or constitution - when that wording does arrive, needs to specific special resolution of Registered and Resource members, *NOT* All members (which would include associate members, who, according

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

s [1] https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-accountability on section 1.4 Regards, Bope On 19 September 2016 at 17:03, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: I agree with the sentiments as echoed by Boubakar below. Thanks A

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

I agree with the sentiments as echoed by Boubakar below. Thanks Andrew From: Mike Silber Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Date: Monday, 19 September 2016 at 10:39 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC

[Community-Discuss] IPv6 in Zimbabwe

Hi Guys, So, let another exciting announcement – I apologize for the cross posting to both lists but I figured there were aspects of interest in both forums in what follows. Yesterday we turned up IPv6 on our consumer products in Zimbabwe. There are now in excess of 10 thousand FTTH users in

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

I think we also need to differentiate between quorum for vote vs quorum for membership. (Even if not normally – in the context of this discussion) Proxies count btw – the rules on proxies are very clear – a person carrying a proxy represents the member who gave the proxy in every sense of the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

words - those I stand by in entirety. Andrew -Original Message- From: Jackson Muthili [mailto:jacksonmu...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 October 2016 13:10 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: ALAIN AINA <aal...@trstech.net>; General Discussions of AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

the words remains the same :) Andrew -Original Message- From: Alan Barrett [mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net] Sent: 03 October 2016 14:03 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Commu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

Alain, Quite frankly – I think what you have said here is, at best, extremely naive and at worst incredibly irresponsible. Yes, AfriNIC is a community of members that believes in a bottom up approach. You are correct there – and within the bounds of the law the bottom up process must be

Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

is to throw away valuable views and guidance which can assist us. Again – I strongly disagree with your sentiments as stated below. Andrew Alston Liquid Telecommunications – Group Head of IP Strategy From: Arnaud AMELINA <ameln...@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 30 September 2016 at 17:09 To: Alan B

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

Sorry where I referred to v4, I meant v6 Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 28 October 2016 20:32 To: Omo Oaiya <omo.oa...@wacren.net>; Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subje

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

ilto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:28 AM, Omo Oaiya <omo.oa...@wacren.net<mailto:omo.oa...@wacren.net>> wrote: On 28 October 2016 at 09:01, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: > Like oth

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

- most of the numbers are in the hands of a minority Which minority Omo? That’s a very sweeping claim, care to clarify and back it up? Btw, you say that Frank took a cheap shot…. Allocation policy is pretty clear – space allocated is meant to be used…. And while you sit and advocate for

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

Ø Yes. the usual story. You only know. Others are either clueless or naive.. Not at all, I’m sure there are plenty of people who may know better than me. Unfortunately, as of yet, none of them have bothered to provide realistic ways of doing this that contain *detailed* proposals of how

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] AFRINIC Board Representative to the NRO NC/ASO AC

: Noah <n...@neo.co.tz> Date: Friday, 4 November 2016 at 22:19 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Walubengo J <jw...@yahoo.com>, General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>, "members-disc...@afrinic.net" <members

Re: [Community-Discuss] Regular updates on Number Resource Applications and Approvals

Dewole, That information is already available based on space allocated. It would be a violation of the MSA and privacy clauses to disclose any application before it is granted. The whois database contains the rest of the information as does the delegation database, just a matter of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

side of this debate I fall on ☺ Andrew On 05/11/2016, 13:36, "Alan Barrett" <alan.barr...@afrinic.net> wrote: > On 5 Nov 2016, at 00:46, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > I believe Point 5 may

Re: [Community-Discuss] Let's chat about unannounced v6 space!

7-2001-4200.html http://airrs.afrinic.net/bgp/reports6.html/bgp.reports.2016-10-17-2c00.html They are no longer maintained. For the v4 space there is another initiative at http://www.trstech.net/africa-bgp/ Hope this helps —Alain On Oct 17, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Andrew Alston <a

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv6 Chapter 254

depletion and the benefits and drawbacks behind it are very much a topic for discussion by the community. Andrew From: Noah <n...@neo.co.tz> Date: Friday, 14 October 2016 at 13:20 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-disc

Re: [Community-Discuss] Let's chat about unannounced v6 space!

On 16 Oct 2016, at 10:56, Andrew Alston wrote: > Just as another note – > > I am also working on something that will take the rest of the > allocated prefixes (the ones that are announced), and tie them back to > the originating ASN hi andr

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

that person is – but about who gets to choose them. Anything else is, in my view, not an attempt to fix the representation problem, but rather an attempt to follow a completely different agenda. Andrew From: Noah [mailto:n...@neo.co.tz] Sent: 13 November 2016 22:43 To: Andrew Alston

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bylaws changes

Noah, I am trying to understand this. So, which country do you consider me from? South Africa because I hold a South African passport? Kenya because I have lived there for 3 years, am married to a Kenyan and have a child who holds both? Or for the purposes of this am from both? If I am South

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] AFRINIC Board Representative to the NRO NC/ASO AC

Using this thought process hypothetically, and speaking strictly as an individual If this is the mindset that we wish to adopt, and I am certainly not saying it is, would it not be a good idea to write into the bylaws that if someone runs for election and loses, they should not be eligible to

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

n in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact? My Contribution through the lines of this message 2016-11-01 15:31 GMT+00:00 ALAIN AINA <aal...@trstech.net<mailto:aal...@trstech.net>>: Hello, On Oct 29, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidte

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

in this case, they are not proxies. I am the direct administrative contact for those organisations and hence I speak for each of them, one organisation at a time. Andrew From: Arnaud AMELINA [mailto:ameln...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 November 2016 20:29 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com&

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

Ø Like others, I would like to see widespread v6 adoption but we do need to be careful to explain the stats we provide especially for those who advocate to other stakeholders. I 100% agree… and this is why I asked if it could be explained to me how the correlation between v4 depletion and v6

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Accountability assessment - PDP review?

I actually question this stance, and perhaps what I will be saying may be controversial, but this is how I see it. It is not – and cannot be – the job of the co-chairs to drive a process towards consensus. It is the job of the authors of the policy to strive to read the communities wishes and

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

to participate in that capacity. Andrew From: abel ELITCHA <kmw.elit...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 2 November 2016 at 23:33 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>, Arnaud AMELINA <ameln...@g

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact?

lt;omo.oa...@wacren.net> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 12:46:41 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Omo Oaiya; Owen DeLong; General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv4 depletion in AFRINIC will speed up IPv6 adoption - myth or fact? On 28 October 2016 at 18:25, Andrew Alston

Re: [Community-Discuss] [kictanet] Liquid Telecom warns of looming address shortage - Daily Nation

in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 10 Oct 2016, at 9:25 AM, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.c om<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: Hi Ali, If I may respond here.

Re: [Community-Discuss] [kictanet] Liquid Telecom warns of looming address shortage - Daily Nation

Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 10 Oct 2016, at 9:25 AM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<

[Community-Discuss] Let's chat about unannounced v6 space!

So, I was interested to see - how much v6 was allocated by AfriNIC that was not announced into the tables and who was it allocated to, and decided to write something to take a look. Now - some notes about the stuff on the page below - firstly this is generated by processing the routing tables

Re: [Community-Discuss] Let's chat about unannounced v6 space!

: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Date: Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 11:37 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Let's chat about unannounced v6 space! So, I was interested to see – how much v6 was allocate

Re: [Community-Discuss] IPv6 Chapter 254

Heh, We all have our worries about Cloud Innovation – but if you’re going to give stats to the list – at least make them accurate. Cloud innovation according to the AfriNIC database has 2 /12s and 1 /11, which is 33% below what you claim in your email below. Some interesting things about this

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

ic.net> wrote: > On 14 Apr 2017, at 22:39, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote: > > But it raises a question – and its one I’ve been debating at length online with multiple people. > > AfriNIC – completely neutral tec

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

Just for the sake of clarity. The authors had no contact with theregister before that article went live – and we note certain factual inaccuracies in what was published and will reach out to get them corrected. That being said – at the request of other media organisations – the authors have

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

I also point out that there is nothing in any AfriNIC policy that requires an entity that is requesting space to have a license of any form, unless I have missed it – it may be something being asked for – but it’s not in policy and it’s not in the bylaws to my knowledge. If anyone knows

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

Now, that’s an interesting question, and personally – speaking in my own capacity – I would have no objection to it. But it raises a question – and its one I’ve been debating at length online with multiple people. AfriNIC – completely neutral technical body AfriNIC – political organisation

[Community-Discuss] Requests and questions

frames to complete said investigation and b.) once known, the full list of outstanding policies/procedures/committees and c.) the time frames to rectify these areas. I look forward to hearing the results of the above. Many Thanks Andrew Alston

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 5 Jun 2017, at 8:42 AM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtel

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

proceed in a solo effort, it will just take longer Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Badru Ntege <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:25:41 AM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Owen DeLong; community-discuss@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions

of money are paid – and also – in no way did I ask the board to do this work themselves – most of that work can be outsourced to external legal firms – which would be a good use of the amounts of money they are paid. Andrew From: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Date: Friday, 1

Re: [Community-Discuss] Confusion...

Noir video footage for clear evidence of this, and again in Botswana). Yes – There is much that confuses me – but I have always managed – and will continue to do so. Andrew On 12 Jul 2017, at 06:40, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com&g

Re: [Community-Discuss] Confusion...

On 12 Jul 2017, at 06:40, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: I realized after it was pointed out that this had not gone to the list - so re-sending Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ____

[Community-Discuss] Outstanding Requests

Sincerely Andrew Alston ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

plan to fully test. Thanks Andrew From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 June 2017 12:49 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recover

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

to above. Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 12:24 To: Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com>; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources Sunda

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

– since I believe that if we want transparency – let us get full transparency – including into the workings of the committees who’s existence is public knowledge. Andrew From: Jackson Muthili [mailto:jacksonmu...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 12:46 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

Thanks Marcus, Just some feedback for the community. It's been a great experience here at RIPE and some of the ideas given and the extensive discussions following the presentation referred to by Marcus have been both useful and informative. Draft 2 will be submitted shortly very much in line

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

Noah – An annual report – by law – has to contain the financials – audits cannot even BEGIN until after the close of the financial year – and audits take time – and yes – I am also not all that pleased that the “friendly” audit report is not out yet – but asking for a report in Q1 that is

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

NGNOULAYE [mailto:jnoul...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 June 2017 18:58 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; badru.nt...@nftconsult.com Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources Dear Andre

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

Hi Sunday, Ok – now we have a problem – let me quote what you said: "This report is intended solely for the information and use of the audit committee and is not intended to be and should not be used by anyone other than these specified parties." Now, let me quote from the bylaws: 7.6 The

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

And while on the subject of transparency, I would also ask, that the board disclosure *ALL* the audit reports – inclusive of the management letters which form part of the auditor’s report – as per section 7.6.(ii) which expressly says that the registered and resource members have the right to

[Community-Discuss] Incident between myself and Prof. Quaynor

was in no way in my capacity as a board member, and was done on a personal basis. Again, if I have caused offense, I apologize and it was unintended. Yours Sincerely Andrew Alston ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

;http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 5 Jun 2017, at 8:42 AM, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>&

[Community-Discuss] Questions about transparency

Hi All, So - I want to open a bit of a discussion about transparency, specifically, financial transparency. In order to get this started - let me ask a few questions of all of you - While we talk about transparency and how it is required - can we analyze for a moment as to the level of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closure: was: Board Statement on Board Member's Conduct

You complain because it is abuse – that is what we say about governments shutting down the Internet You say it was unnecessary – but your complaining about it is illustrating the exact point we wished to make – shutdowns hurt – shutdowns upset people – shutdowns are abusive – shutdowns are bad

Re: [Community-Discuss] [AFRINIC-Announce] Common Statement By AF* on Internet Shutdowns in Africa

So, at this point, I need to climb in. Firstly – I argue that the credibility of the PDP process was protected at all times. Secondly – as to the scope of the PDP – Let us look at what the policy says: If you do X, it has implications on your assignments. Let us now look at other policies as

Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions

- it was the board who promised such. Again I ask - when will the board meet its commitments to this community that are clearly stated below? Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 18 September 2017 09:54 To: Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com> Cc: G

Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions

Dear Board, Any indication as to when we will hear from you again regarding this? Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 03 October 2017 10:27 To: Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net&

Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 204, Issue 1- Discriminatory remarks on the livestream of SAFNOG

The answer was – and I quote – there is no French translation – no zulu either. I see no problem with that Andrew On 07/09/2017, 13:57, "Jackson Muthili" <jacksonmu...@gmail.com> wrote: 2017-09-07 14:43 GMT+03:00 Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 204, Issue 1- Discriminatory remarks on the livestream of SAFNOG

Quite frankly, SAFNOG is the Southern African Network Operators Group – its an English speaking area. Translation costs money – you do translation for your targeted audience – who is meant to be pay for it? And if there is translation to French – surely since its Southern African focused –

Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 204, Issue 1- Discriminatory remarks on the livestream of SAFNOG

; Date: Wednesday, 6 September 2017 at 12:05 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>, "community-discuss@afrinic.net" <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 204, Issue 1- Discriminatory remarks on the livestr

Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions

September 2017 22:08 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions Dear Mr Alston, 2nd Octob

Re: [Community-Discuss] Enquiries/clarification

-discuss-ow...@afrinic.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Community-Discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Requests and questions (Andrew Alston) 2. Re:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions

ay Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] Sent: 05 October 2017 19:42 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Cc: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requ

[Community-Discuss] Minutes and resolutions

Dear Board, It has come to my attention that there have been no minutes and no resolutions published since the board meeting held in June of this year. Since resolutions are normally published directly after the meeting where they are taken, and board meeting minutes typically take far less

Re: [Community-Discuss] Removal of a director

Alan, The problem here is this: The company cannot pick and choose at will which are which. There are MANY rights which are – by the companies act – assigned to the resource members that would normally apply to the shareholders. Yet this board seems to want to pick and choose which rights

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Removal of a director

Afrinic) Andrew From: Komi Elitcha <kmw.elit...@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, 17 December 2017 at 10:57 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Arsène Tungali <arsenebag...@gmail.com>, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <mado...@hotmail.com>, rpd <r...@af

Re: [Community-Discuss] More meeting questions

still be on the AMS-IX mailing lists for those of you who are members of AMS-IX. Thanks Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 05 May 2018 20:42 To: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net; community-d

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Board update on Governance Committee Report

Dear Mr Chair, I want for a second for us to step back and consider the entire event timeline here. 1. Damning allegations are made 2. The community demands from the board an _independent_ investigation because members of the board are implicated in said allegations 3. The board –

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Board update on Governance Committee Report

to accept what has been provided – because if the community had that kind of faith in this board – the demand for the investigation would never have occurred in the first place. Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 07 May 2018 00:40 To: Abibu Ntahigiye <abibu.nta

Re: [Community-Discuss] More meeting questions

and the companies act. Can we please get a response to this - it is a matter of urgency Andrew From: Andrew Alston Sent: 06 May 2018 17:16 To: 'Andrew Alston' <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net; commu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Board update on Governance Committee report

Owen, I would even accept a minimally redacted version – so long as the redactions can be clearly seen – so we can see not the information that was redacted – but the context around the redaction. But – what we have at the moment is a report written by the board itself that has absolutely no

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

Again - I call code of conduct on this post Andrew From: Marcus K. G. Adomey [mailto:mado...@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2018 12:23 To: Sander Steffann <san...@steffann.nl>; community-discuss@afrinic.net; Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Subject: Re: [Community-Discu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

Chairs! Code of conduct! Again by this individual who has already been sanctioned. Andrew From: Marcus K. G. Adomey [mailto:mado...@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2018 12:16 To: Sander Steffann ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news Sander, I

Re: [Community-Discuss] More meeting questions

Hahaha thanks for the amusement  That email was really really funny – I needed a good laugh Andrew From: Chevalier du Borg [mailto:virtual.b...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 May 2018 09:47 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@af

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

...@tpra.gov.sd] Sent: 09 May 2018 14:56 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Alan Barrett <alan.barr...@afrinic.net>; Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com>; community-discuss <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] proposition de politique

While I do not support the concept of NIR’s – the strongest argument against the NIR’s is to prove the bottom up approach is functional and works correctly. That means: 1. A PDP that is not tied to geopolitical/linguistic politics and where location of author means more than the policy

Re: [Community-Discuss] More meeting questions

them if they fail to live up to what they are meant to. Andrew From: Chevalier du Borg [mailto:virtual.b...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 May 2018 09:47 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@afrinic.net>; community-discuss@afrinic.net

[Community-Discuss] Questions about the SGMM

Dear Board, Members, Community. I am cross posting this because it is relevant to all of the above. Can the board please confirm that systems are in place to allow audio communication by remote members into the meeting hall as is required by the fifth schedule of the Mauritian companies act,

Re: [Community-Discuss] More meeting questions

that waives the flaws in the notice of meeting - not a majority - not a super majority - unanimous Andrew From: Andrew Alston Sent: 05 May 2018 17:52 To: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <bo...@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: More meeting que

[Community-Discuss] More meeting questions

Dear Board of Directors. The fifth schedule of the companies act, section 2, sub-paragraph (b)(i) states: (b) The notice shall state - (i) the nature of the business to be transacted at the meeting in sufficient detail to enable a shareholder to form a reasoned judgment in relation to it; and

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