Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] proposition de politique

2018-05-08 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I’ve also the same opinion, in general NIRs are not needed, but I have the feeling that this may be beyond the scope of AfriNIC. What happen if a country law mandate it? Then AfriNIC members of that country will be mandated by law to go via the NIR. Of course, you can “strongly

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] proposition de politique

2018-05-08 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
When I said bylaws, I was actually thinking in membership agreement, but actually either way (or both) may work. Regards, Jordi De: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Fecha: martes, 8 de mayo de 2018, 12:26 Para: AfriNIC Resource Policy ,

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I think Andrew is right. I just found a short article that explains it: https://www.gdprandbeyond.com/blog-post/data-privacy/gdpr-affect-non-european-companies/ If you don’t want to read all the article, this is the key: “The short answer is: the regulation will affect firms both

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
U citizens, EU residents, potentially even visitors to the EU (on anything more than a transitory basis). Still waiting for DPAs to make specific rules. In the absence of those specific rules - everything else is conjecture. > On 16 Apr 2018, at 22:34, Jordi Palet Mar

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
: S Moonesamy <sm+afri...@elandsys.com> Fecha: martes, 17 de abril de 2018, 7:43 Para: Jordi Palet Martinez <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es>, <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Asunto: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR Hi Jordi, At 01:40 PM 16-04-2018, Jordi

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss
Even simpler than that. The registration of emails of EU citizens in this exploder or in the next AfriNIC meeting. Emails are personal data. > El 16 abr 2018, a las 21:15, ze...@auladin.com escribió: > > Hi Arsene, > > The GDPR applies for data protection for all EU citizens. > > If, for

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC and the GDPR

2018-04-16 Thread Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss
And forgot to say that IP addresses are also personal data, so the logs when visiting AfriNIC websites or the registration forms, etc., have the same issue :-) DNS servers logs as well ... and so on ... > El 16 abr 2018, a las 22:34, Jordi Palet Martinez via Community-Discuss > <

[Community-Discuss] warning/question about hotel reservation for the next AfriNIC 29 meeting is it fake ?

2018-10-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi all, I've reserved a room at the first suggested hotel (Hotel Diar Lemdina), which I think is the AfriNIC venue, on October 2nd. I've got the credit card payment confirmation charge in a matter of seconds (company clictopay.com.tn). However NEVER got the room reservation confirmation from

Re: [Community-Discuss] How the RIPE NCC Will Be Validating abuse-c

2018-10-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Jean-Robert, I guess the people interested can provide inputs to my related policy proposal: https://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2467-abuse-contact-policy-update Of course, use the RDP list please. https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd Regards,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v3?

2018-12-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Chittesh, Yes, of course. Need to find some time to read minutes, look at the videos, and of course, if you have any suggestions on that, please, do those in the policy mailing list. I will be responding to any comments and in some days/weeks, make an alternative proposal. Thanks!

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

2019-05-31 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Let’s make it generic, so it is easier to understand for everyone. Note that I’m not a lawyer, but law is generally very logic. So: In law, you can’t hide documents that are already public. Moreover, an organization (membership or any other type), can’t have rules that go *against* the law.

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

2019-06-19 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Benjamin, Let me explain how I see this from my perspective. I’ve not spoken with anyone, apart from the public emails in the list, about my policy proposals. I usually don’t do. They come from my understanding of what is good for the community. I even don’t ask support in private to

Re: [Community-Discuss] FW: Everyone... meet Benjamin

2019-06-19 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Agree with Warwick. Any member of an organization or community is free to speak. What is not acceptable is that one person making accusations to other community members, which said is in the meeting (so he can go to the mic), is not able to provide his real identity and then is discovered that

[Community-Discuss] Let's love words ...

2019-06-23 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Some time ago I posted in social networks this: "Let's love words, words do, words take care, words kill, let's be careful with words! The words in emails and social networks are more dangerous, but do not be afraid of them!" So allow me some final words for this week meeting. 1) We have a

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
opinions have a flavour of ... project! Those who say that they come as samaritain to "help" must bear in mind that AfriNIC community is more agile and smart than they think! RESPECT! RESPECT! "Shouting is not a act of vitality"! Dr Ousmane TESSA JORDI PALET MARTINEZ vi

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
This is really very ugly. Are we really crazy to believe that the community is not able to decide on their own? I’ve seen a similar situation in other regions and this is outside of the code of conduct (written or not), or the elections proccesses. There are several points here: Have the

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Sami, My point here is that the campaigns need to be done *only* in a neutral way, not by board or committee members, not by staff, and only to people that you *already* know. So, they should be done only in the official ways determined in the elections process. I’m not, *at all*,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Anne-Vivien, I don’t have any doubt about the good intent, but looking at your attachment, it is more negative than good for the community, at least, in my opinion. It is discussing about older versions of the policy proposals (even withdraw ones), so it confuses people. It is citing

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
, documents, software, databases, website) may only be used, reproduced and made available to third parties upon prior written authorization from LARUS. So, I think this is contradictory. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/7/19 17:45, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss"

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Wafa, As I’ve expressed in many occasions, I’m all for freedom of speech. However, when you have a position elected by the community, you need to take care and avoid miss interpretations. That’s means that in your messages you must clearly state “hat-off” and not remark your positions as

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Sander, I agree with your if we mean summary of the discussion, but actually I was meaning summary of the proposal, which in fact is already requested in the proposal forms and is already done by authors. Sometimes that's more a single paragraph, so in those cases I think it should be up to

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
if they don’t want to say. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 5/7/19 6:13, "Badru Ntege" escribió: Jordi Curious to know the end in mind with your question?? Please elucidate BN From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss Reply-To: JORDI PALET MART

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
will be happy to forgive her. My intent is not to punish anyone, just to make sure that we find solutions to possible problems and mistakes and avoid repeating them. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 5/7/19 10:16, "Alan Barrett" escribió: > On 3 Jul 2019, at 15:50, JORDI P

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
“open” database, we need to correct it. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 5/7/19 23:57, "Omo Oaiya" escribió: Jordi, On 5 Jul 2019, at 22:13, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: Hi Alan, If the board can't investigate that, we may have a proble

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
regulations (GDPR). Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 5/7/19 10:51, "Noah" escribió: On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 1:42 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: Hi Noah, I’m sure we all have contacts from lots of people from the community, but we use thos

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against W

2019-07-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Mirriam, I don’t agree. The only way for organizations and communities to go forward is to find solutions to problems. If we don’t do that now, we will forget about this for 1 year, and then the mistake will be repeated by someone else. Is that what we want or we prefer to find our

[Community-Discuss] IPv6 faster than IPv4 (also with 464XLAT)

2019-06-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
We already knew that from previous measurements, however the nice thing from this article is that it is analyzing many different providers worldwide: https://teamarin.net/2019/06/25/why-is-ipv6-faster/ Regards, Jordi @jordipalet ** IPv4 is

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
gt; El 5/7/19 10:16, "Alan Barrett" escribió: > > > >> On 3 Jul 2019, at 15:50, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss >> wrote: >> >> I’m angrier about this as much as I think on it again. >> >> Can the board and the staff in

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
contacts, in order to understand if this personal data (emails are personal data), have been collected from Afrinic internal databases. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/7/19 13:43, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss" escribió: This is really very ugly. Are

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

2019-07-04 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Arnaud, I’m very happy that you send this email, because it addresses what I’m saying. Note that I was not aware of that before, but looks good to me (I look to the email on 6th of June), the other one is just congratulating about the results. It is a public email, not private, even

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

2019-07-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Andrew, I’m not sure to agree with your view. I fully agree on freedom of expression, but there is a fairness and transparency point here. It is about respect to the PDP (and consequently the community). When anyone present a summary of a policy proposal (which has been done already by the

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
a few responses, we will be able to understand if that was part of an allowed communication or there is data protection issue. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 4/7/19 0:07, "Noah" escribió: Hi Jordi, On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:51 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Communi

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship

2019-07-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
seful because new people get engaged in the list and in the mics of the meeting. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 2/7/19 20:55, "Noah" escribió: On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 17:11 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss, wrote: When anyone present a summary of a po

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-04 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ahmed, Can you confirm if you have provided your email to Wafa and if that’s the case, if it was for discussing about candidates? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 4/7/19 9:32, "Ahmed Fadl" escribió: Thank you Sami for your introduction Let me also introduce myself My

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-04 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Thanks a lot for your response Ahmed! I think is key to identify the source of the emails and to make sure that they haven’t been provided explicitly by the owners. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 4/7/19 10:25, "Ahmed Fadl" escribió: No Ahmed Fadl |​ Healthcare

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-04 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ahmen, I mean before getting the email advertisings the candidates, have you personally provided your email to Wafa? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 4/7/19 10:06, "Ahmed Fadl" escribió: Hi Jordi Already my mail provided for all community members Thank you

Re: [Community-Discuss] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals (off-topic)

2019-07-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi SM, Responding from my own perspective, hopefully is useful. I think "independent" is not easy to find, and is not related to a specific region. But here are some "numbers" based on my own experience (from my customers networks, so independent on the sense of "not just one case"). This

Re: [Community-Discuss] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals (off-topic)

2019-07-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
El 1/7/19 20:11, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss" escribió: Hi SM, Responding from my own perspective, hopefully is useful. I think "independent" is not easy to find, and is not related to a specific region. But here are

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

2019-07-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
to AfriNIC (if for example it is determined that email targets/addresses were harvested from Afrinic digital resources without consent from the data subjects). walu. On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 8:04 AM Owen DeLong wrote: > On Jul 5, 2019, at 14:13 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Disc

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

2019-11-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Well … the so-called “Benjamin” broke *several times* the code of conduct: https://afrinic.net/code So should be ban from the meeting (and the lists) and not only Benjamin, but also the real person behind him. I’ve asked the staff/board to verify the information about who is behind

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

2019-11-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I don’t think this will be acceptable. We like it or not we should not ban anyone to come to the meetings, unless they violate code of conduct or anything similar that we have for the meetings. Of course, unless in our code of conduct we state explicitly that anyone using the whois or

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC legacy space ownership manipulation

2019-11-04 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
+1 Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 5/11/19 8:16, "Adewole Ajao" escribió: Makes sense. Especially on operational and PR issues such as this. Letting the CEO communicate will also reduce the sense of non-responsiveness that members sometimes feel (although it's unavoidable

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC-31 Meeting

2019-11-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
o the side by the brokers. Mark. On 17/Nov/19 17:05, Augustine CHII Ngek wrote: +1 Nishal We can simply go back to that tradition and see how it helps us in this present circumstances. Augustine CHII NGEK On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, 13:50 Nishal Goburdhan, wrote: On 17 Nov 2019, at 13:09, JORDI PALE

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Sunday, all, I’ve been in “internal conflict” myself, since I read the article. Let me tell why. I met Ernest the first time around 2005, if I recall correctly. My first AFRINIC meeting was AFRINIC-2 in Maputo, Mozambique, and shortly after, during an ITU meeting in Geneva, Adiel

Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT

2020-03-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Nancy, all, If I understand correctly, it means also the AFRINIC meeting part will not take place. Some of us book the flights quite early, from our own pockets, and to make them cheap they are non-refundable. Due to the circumstances of the Covid19, the airlines are offering free

Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT

2020-03-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
ees waived.     2.    Ticket value is placed on file as a credit to be used to purchase a future flight.     3.    Purchase must be made within one year or credit expires. Owen On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:14 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wro

Re: [Community-Discuss] Proposition d’inscrire un point sur le multilinguisme dans les Statuts d'AFRINIC

2020-03-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I’ve never counted the % of messages in Spanish, Portuguese and English in LACNIC lists, but my guess is that it is about 60% Spanish, 30% Portuguese and 10% English. However, I have noticed, that this merge of languages is usually negative, because most of the misunderstandings, for

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

2020-08-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
e database – no they are NOT in violation – because the rules are different when it comes to this space. Andrew From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 11:50 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being s

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

2020-08-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
don’t take into account all of the facts as currently known. Andrew From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2020 09:44 To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued I've some points here: 1) Were those tran

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

2020-08-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Tks! However, unless I got it wrong, and again, talking in general, when legacy resource-holders sign the RSA they are bound to it as well (never mind if you're are the source or the destination of the transfer). Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 20/8/20 12:10, "Ronald F. Guilmette"

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

2020-08-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
that state that you must use the space as applied for – well – who’s to know what the space was applied for – or the justifications given – the data for a ton of these applications is missing – gone forever. Andrew From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss Sent: Thursday, 20 Augu

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

2020-08-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I've some points here: 1) Were those transfers done following the Intra-RIR policy? Or it happened before that policy existed? 2) Were those transfers inter-RIR? 3) In any case, were those transfers authorized by the staff (according to the CPM)? If any of those questions indicate that the CPM

Re: [Community-Discuss] Table of changes: AFRINIC Bylaw review

2020-08-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Abdalla, all, I've a few inputs: 1) I think the definition of end-site should be amended. An entity, corporation or individual can have multiple end-sites. Just think in a bank. They will have a main office, maybe a backup “main-office” or DC for disaster recovery and many branch offices.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for Comments on the AFRINIC Mailing Lists Terms of Use

2021-02-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ashil, all, I’ve several issues here: The AUP (Acceptable Usage Policy) of the RPD mailing list can only be developed as a policy, following the PDP. This is a community task and not any committee or board or anything like that. I’m not convinced, in legal terms, if you can enforce

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: [members-discuss] Unsolicited Requests

2021-05-30 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
If you read the thread and all the attached whatsapps, you will see that once you ask the first caller for some explanations, the phone call is close and then the candidate is calling you. Is not that sufficient evidence that the candidate knows about this campaign? Regards, Jordi

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

2021-02-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
In my opinion, the right way to have this is: Bylaws, almost as they are now. They refer already to the resources, PDP and the RSA. RSA. Handles well the relation of any member with AFRINIC. However, this is only covering “full members” in the sense that they are getting any resources from

Re: [Community-Discuss] Community expectations

2021-03-29 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi SM, Exactly, you will not find such RFC because it is not needed, as we haven't been in that situation. In any open and transparent organization, country, etc., etc., the principles of freedom of expression and NON-censorship are presumed. I don't know of any mailing list from IETF, RIRs,

Re: [Community-Discuss] March 2021 Updates

2021-03-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Eddy, Unless I’m missing it, I believe that the summary of the community consultation webinar is missing a key point that I made. I stated that the only way for removing anything (even porn, terrorism, etc., which by the way are extreme cases, that never happened in any RIR or IETF

Re: [Community-Discuss] Breach of the Code of Conduct by Mr Ronald Guilmette

2021-02-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Sunday, all, While I understand your point, we also need to understand that the Internet communities are multicultural and we should not ban someone because is language is not up to anyone local culture. I fully agree that sometimes, the way some of us (and I'm including myself here) speak

Re: [Community-Discuss] Breach of the Code of Conduct by Mr Ronald Guilmette

2021-02-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
"tagging", MUST BE ARCHIVED AND NEVER CENSORED. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 24/2/21 11:27, "Mike Silber" escribió: Hi Jordi Trying to be objective here. > On 24 Feb 2021, at 11:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: >

[Community-Discuss] clarification requested from AFRINIC

2021-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi all, Today, during the APNIC51 meeting, in the Global Reports session (https://2021.apricot.net/program/schedule-conference/#/day/10/apnic-global-reports), as usual, there was a presentation from every RIR, including AFRINIC. In this presentation from AFRINIC, there have been two

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] clarification requested from AFRINIC

2021-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
if the co-chairs have been recalled, I don’t have any reasons to believe that they lied in sense that they didn’t sent the email. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/3/21 12:09, "Madhvi Gokool" escribió: Hello Jordi /PDWG On 03/03/2021 1:52 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via

Re: [Community-Discuss] Breach of the Code of Conduct by Mr Ronald Guilmette

2021-02-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ronald, The point is not that you agree with the removal of the message. The point is that it is censorship, and this community should not allow it, because then it means in the future anything else could be removed. This list is not to "satisfy" crazy laws in any country, whatever is the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

2021-02-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
-up … and not just by lawyers! Le jeu. 11 févr. 2021 à 20:34, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss a écrit : Hi Widjane, I agree with you in some of the points, but not in all them. 1. Policies among the RIRs aren’t exactly the same. They tend to converge with the time, but no

Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

2021-02-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Widjane, I agree with you in some of the points, but not in all them. Policies among the RIRs aren’t exactly the same. They tend to converge with the time, but not always are 100% the same. In fact, in some RIRs, right now, if you asked for resources and provided documents about what

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-29 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Even more They accept their president to ask for the Capitol invasion and nothing happens ... interesting at least! But the question here is, in the EU, spam by SMS, phone, or *any means* (not just email) is against GDPR and many other regulations. I'm unsure if the "transposition" of

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-29 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
You don't think that any national law, in this case in Mauritius (which have an equivalent to the GDPR), is on top of organization rules? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 29/7/21 11:58, "Ronald F. Guilmette" escribió: In message <1e7823b3-005a-4813-9e46-76f61d457...@consulintel.es>,

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-29 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ronald, Yes, no doubt the other fish is more important now ... but all this is also relevant for the case, and legal counsel may need to consider all that in front of the Courts ... The typical interpretation of the DPA is (from previous judgements): If your email about the vacation spot

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I understand what you mean, but is not so simple ... I don't know Mauritius, but if the justice system works there and you fail to pay to a DPA fine, and there is not a reciprocal specific with US, do you believe you will be able to come to Mauritius without risking detention or do business

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Ronald is very right. How that can be possible? Of course, the original justification is *extremely relevant*. Was it done properly and in good faith? Was it properly checked by the staff? Was the relevant staff doing correctly his/her job? Is that justification still valid, or if the

[Community-Discuss] should the allocation/assigment of resources be made public?

2021-07-31 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
sure myself, this could work, but we could try. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet Dear AfriNIC's Community, Please see my comments below, inline... Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss a écrit : > On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:30 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Owen, I need to disagree with some of your points here. The transfer proposal was wrongly managed by the chairs, I’m convinced that they did in good faith. A proposal, can’t return once and again with non-editorial changes to the discussion and sustain the consensus decision.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Noah, Your interpretation on this is wrong. Read my detailed email a few days ago. 11.4 Allows the Board to define any policy regarding Internet Resources that they believe is urgently needed. This can be implemented ASAP the Board decides. The Board MUST also send the policy

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
And for clarity, no RIR (including RIPE NCC) used voting for matters that belong to PDP decisions. I think there is some confusion here, may be something taken out of context, not sure what is the issue, but a PDP matter that is decided by consensus hasn’t been decided by members voting.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Even if a transfer policy is adopted, *before* any transfer AFRINIC has the right to verify the resources are being used according to the policies, RSA, documentation/justification provided when it was allocated/assigned, etc., etc. If the resources don’t follow the rules, the RIR (not just

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-31 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Legal battles and police investigations take time. You need to be patient. I've battled several times against different parties, including Spanish Government, Spanish DPA, etc., and even lost some of the cases in the 1st level courts, but having appealed up to the Constitutional Court, even if

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-31 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
22:05, "Owen DeLong" escribió: > On Jul 29, 2021, at 23:53 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: > > I understand what you mean, but is not so simple ... I don't know Mauritius, but if the justice system works there and you fail to pay to a DPA fine,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
lls, but whatever effect it has caused in the previous weeks/months, remain in effect. Dear AfriNIC's Community, Please see my comments below, inline... Le jeudi 5 août 2021, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss a écrit : Hi Sylvain, Hi Jordi, Thanks for replying, brot

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Sylvain, 11.4 literally says policy not DPP. Also ready 11.5, otherwise you are taking it out of context. Dear AfriNIC's Community, Please see my comments below, inline... Le dimanche 1 août 2021, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss a écrit : Hi Noah, Hi Jordi

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ronald, I disagree. At a minimum they were against the equivalent to the GDPR in Mauritius, as they used information collected from whois, mail exploders, etc., for a different purpose that the one agreed. I can publish my email and phone in any public mailing list (or whois), but you need

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Code of Conduct - New Version

2021-10-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I did a quick read. I need to review my notes/emails from previous rounds, but it will be nice if the staff can explain if something that we discussed in the list hasn't been considered, why. At a first sight, still missing several key things, specially under the Mauritius law, such as

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts

2021-10-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Very good news! I don’t know how these things work in Mauritius courts, but it will be good to ask that all the legal expenses are borne by the other party. In addition to that, I believe AFRINIC must ask for image damages and compensation for the troubles created by the accounts

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

2021-09-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Owen, I’ve been silent till now on till now on all this. However, I must say that you’re right that they didn’t violate the CoC, they did something presumable worst which may constitute criminal offenses (slander, defamation, etc., I’m not sure what is the best way to translate it

Re: [Community-Discuss] Final Call for Comments on Code of Conduct

2021-07-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi, I've sent already a couple of emails to comms about my concerns on the CoC. I can only find right now the last one, but I've the feeling that my previous inputs haven't been considered. I think it will be nice, when some inputs are not considered, to explain why, so to avoid

Re: [Community-Discuss] Final Call for Comments on Code of Conduct

2021-07-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
El 17/7/21 4:19, "Owen DeLong" escribió: > On Jul 16, 2021, at 08:19 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: > > Hi, > > I've sent already a couple of emails to comms about my concerns on the CoC. I can only find right now the las

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
The NRO, manages a fund, if I recall correctly, contributed by the 5 RIRs, in order to secure sustainability/stability of any RIR in case of contingencies. I guess this is a contingency that can apply to that fund, so a “loan” can be provided to pay any operational expenses while the AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-27 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
, to mention just a few! El 27/7/21 21:43, "Frank Habicht" escribió: Hi Jordi, On 27/07/2021 22:30, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: > This will be very simple to resolve (not taking a position in one side or the other because I don't have all t

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-27 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
This will be very simple to resolve (not taking a position in one side or the other because I don't have all the real facts and documents). The original justificacion of the request of the resources I don't think it had so many "secret" and "confidential" details. After several years if any

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-27 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
By the way, if some parts of the justification are still "secret", then we could probably live knowing only part of them, redacting the confidential parts. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 27/7/21 21:36, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss" escribió: This

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Long" escribió: > On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:30 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: > > This will be very simple to resolve (not taking a position in one side or the other because I don't have all the real facts and documents). > > The or

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
How such information could be confidential? Everybody knows the details about the cost of resources, whois data is public, companies need to have records of their accounts, etc. By the way, emails can’t be deleted from the archive, we already discussed that a couple of times, unless

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Very good observations Paul. My doubt here is if there was sufficient evidence for a “real disk of dissipation”. I doubt AFRINIC is such kind of organization where the Board can take the risk of doing so without consulting the membership. Otherwise, the Board could be committing presumable

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

2022-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I fail to understand how is possible, that a resolution from a public Competition Commission is not public, even redacting personal data if needed. In normal democratic countries, as I know, all those cases are published in their web site. AFRINIC legal staff must take care of that. Regards,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

2022-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
reesh Phokeer" escribió: Hi JORDI, On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 7:48 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: > > I fail to understand how is possible, that a resolution from a public > Competition Commission is not public, even redacting personal data if needed. >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

2022-02-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I do think Mauritius is more democratic than many countries on the continent where you live… they just have some practices all may not like. -- Arnaud Le jeu. 17 févr. 2022 à 15:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss a écrit : I fail to understand how is possible, that a resol

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

2022-02-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Democracy = Transparency In this specific case, a monopoly accusation has nothing to be hidden. I fully agree with retracting personal data, but NOTHING ELSE. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 18/2/22 12:41, "Mark Tinka" escribió: On 2/17/22 17:47, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

2022-01-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
That’s the point, we don’t have that problem in the IETF or any other RIR. So, I think is fair that you look for solutions where you have problems or you may have them. Anyway, I know that other RIRs are watching the verification process in AFRINIC so to implement also themselves, just

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chair Selection Candidates Matrix

2022-05-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
Hi Ish, While the number of emails is significative, I was not looking into just counting them. Also, you will need to point how many each year, if they are related to specific proposals, and so many variables, that, as you very well said “Do read these emails …”. Also, to be fair, we