Hello,
WL My point exactly. It's very cool, but it is just a
box (despite the fact that I have mini envy).
That makes it easier for me to get it in the door where
people have already invested in large screen or flat panel
displays and optical mice.
WL -- to liken it to other appliances
On Mar 29, 2005, at 11:51, Liam Proven wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:25:47 +0100, Liam Proven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You should go download the old QNX demo then, and try it on a
random Net-attached PC.
I've been asked off-list about this. It's been removed from QNX's
official site
On 2005-04-02 17:10, Darren wrote:
Peter da Silva wrote:
You are correct, it runs Tru64, Old RH or MDK, all 64-bit.
MDK?
There's an alpha port of Mandrake.
Debian may be a better option.
And VMS.
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You are correct, it runs Tru64, Old RH or MDK, all 64-bit.
MDK?
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You are correct, it runs Tru64, Old RH or MDK, all 64-bit.
MDK?
There's an alpha port of Mandrake.
Debian may be a better option.
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Peter da Silva wrote:
Microsoft never released a 64-bit version of NT for the Alpha. We have been a
DEC/Compaq/HP partner since before the Alpha existed, and we've never got our
hands on one... they're all 32-bit, with 32-bit-only APIs. Do you have some
non-released software? I'd love to see a
Liam Proven wrote:
You know, I got offered such a machine by a friend recently, for free
- but I turned it down. I haven't got the room nor any real use for
it. For some reason, it doesn't push my cool kit button; I don't
know why...
I dont know why either, room is a big requirement, new
I enjoy firing up the Alpha server running a 64 bit version of NT4, made
in 1995 - 8 drive bays 4 scsi buses and services for mac of course. I
can still find software for it. :)
Microsoft never released a 64-bit version of NT for the Alpha. We have been a
DEC/Compaq/HP partner since before
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:24:50 +1000, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I enjoy firing up the Alpha server running a 64 bit version of NT4, made
in 1995 - 8 drive bays 4 scsi buses and services for mac of course. I
can still find software for it. :)
You know, I got offered such a machine by a
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:24:43 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I had to pick the greatest of the reasons I like my Compacts, it has
to be the wonder of the OS that fits on a single floppy.
You should go download the old QNX demo then, and try it on a random
Net-attached PC. Complete
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:59:00 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OS 10.3 is just unbearable to me.
[...]
5) Any Mac OS that basically has to go into an emulator mode to run
classic Mac programs is *not* a Mac OS
Well, no, it's not. OS X is NeXTstep with a facelift a tummy
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:10:52 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I guess you're not a fan of *any* Mac OS that runs on a PowerPC, is
that it?
:¬)
See, Mac OS on PPC includes a Motorola m68k emulator for two
reasons: first, because for early (and perhaps all) PPC versions of
classic
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:44:29 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I should've specified that I meant using hardware and software native
to the era, but your solution uses that.
Well, it wasn't really mine - but I could have done it! :¬) To be
fair, though, the software was a *lot* more
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:51:46 -0600 (CST), Peter da Silva
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an original IBM PS/2 Model 80-A21 on my LAN, as a server.
I have a PDP-11, an ATT UNIX PC (with System V UNIX and a multitasking
GUI in 1985), and sundry other old boxes. My oldest box in production
is
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:50:13 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get what you're saying, but I take another view of it. I look at
what Microsoft did with the Windows NT (e.g. Windows 2000, Windows XP)
line in order to make it compatible with Win95 code
I think you're confused here.
The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrito:
What's your story?
My first computer was an original 1984 Apple //c (the older revision that
*could not* use 3.5 floppy drives). Even then I loved Macs, my parents
wouldn't buy me one because, at that time, my older brothers were already PC
freaks :-( . I'd have
And, they've both got a handle
:-P
Ian
On Mar 23, 2005, at 9:42 PM, Eagle wrote:
I a way, the iMac is just like the original Mac - it's an all-in-one
unit that isn't very expandable.
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On Mar 25, 2005, at 00:42, Brandon Davis wrote:
Well, my first Mac ...wasn't mine, actually. The story is
...snipped.
But you still had to learn to use it (the PC was a *constant*
struggle ...and
using one wasn't easy being, what with being an early adopter in a
small rural
community), so I
On Mar 24, 2005, at 21:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I guess you're not a fan of *any* Mac OS that runs on a PowerPC, is
that it? See, Mac OS on PPC includes a Motorola m68k emulator for two
reasons: first, because for early (and perhaps all) PPC versions of
classic Mac OS, not all of the OS
On Mar 25, 2005, at 08:57, Edwin P. Groot wrote:
At 08:44 AM 3/25/05 -0500, you wrote:
On Mar 25, 2005, at 00:42, Brandon Davis wrote:
schnitt
I like all of the Compacts, but my Plus is my favorite. There's just
something special about that original form factor, keyboard, and
mouse.
And the
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:42:23 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, in addition to what I wrote earlier, this is another thing I
really like about the Compacts. After 20+ years, they're still
useable. Well, the 128 512, not so much
- You can use a 128 and 512 to store recipes,
Forgot to make my little list of Apples, Macs and the one clone
3 Apple ][e's
1 Apple //c
1 Franklin Ace 500 (not working currently)
2 Mac 512K's (IIRC)
6 Mac Pluses (3 need to be worked on)
1 Mac SE (Maybe 2 of these, will have to check)
1 Mac SE FDHD
1 Mac LC
1 Performa 405
1 Performa 450
1
From: Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:44:33 -0500
I like all of the Compacts, but my Plus is my favorite. There's just
something special about that original form factor, keyboard, and mouse.
And the sound that mouse makes when it is clicked - oh, that takes me
back.
The
Nice collection... Mine follows...
Forgot to make my little list of Apples, Macs and the one clone
3 Apple ][e's
1 Apple //c
1 Franklin Ace 500 (not working currently)
2 Mac 512K's (IIRC)
6 Mac Pluses (3 need to be worked on)
1 Mac SE (Maybe 2 of these, will have to check)
1 Mac SE FDHD
1 Mac
My love for the compacts stem from the design (footprint, design,
architecture), but has really grown into the more intangible. Their
support of their products, the free stuff (OSes, apps, etc.) and, not
in the very least, the great user base such as this list.
I just think there's something
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:42:23 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
useable. Well, the 128 512, not so much, but the Plus can still be
networked on today's networks and can still communicate with today's
machines. It's VERY cool. Just try THAT on a 20-year-old PC!
Oh come *on.* Let's not
On Mar 24, 2005, at 12:33, Liam Proven wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:42:23 -0500, Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
useable. Well, the 128 512, not so much, but the Plus can still be
networked on today's networks and can still communicate with today's
machines. It's VERY cool. Just try THAT on a
Lots of snipping here . . .
As I mentioned before, I got into Macs after OS X, then I got
interested in the OS's history and got an SE/30, with System 6 System
7 floppies, and who-knows-what on the HD (I forget).
OS 10.3 is just unbearable to me. With my Classic II running OS 7.1, I'm
back
On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any reason why I should stop worrying and love the bomb?
Oh, yes, there's plenty of reasons. But, as I'm beginning to see,
Classic Mac OS curmudgeons are nearly worse than Windows zombies.
There'll be no convincing you no matter
On Mar 24, 2005, at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lots of snipping here . . .
As I mentioned before, I got into Macs after OS X, then I got
interested in the OS's history and got an SE/30, with System 6
System
7 floppies, and who-knows-what on the HD (I forget).
[...]
5) Any Mac OS that
I just think there's something glorious about a Plus with 1Mb and 2 720k
floppies doing GUIs _properly_
Except it didn't. Background windows couldn't update.
The Amiga 1000, with 256K or 512K and one 880K floppy, could do that.
Macintosh was amazingly good given the shortcomings of the 128K
I have an original IBM PS/2 Model 80-A21 on my LAN, as a server.
I have a PDP-11, an ATT UNIX PC (with System V UNIX and a multitasking
GUI in 1985), and sundry other old boxes. My oldest box in production
is a Compaq Deskpro 386/20e with 10M RAM and a 110 MB hard disk, running
FreeBSD and
My point exactly. It's very cool, but it is just a box (despite the fact
that I have mini envy). The interface (screen, keyboard, mouse)is elsewhere
The keyboard and mouse are elsewhere on the 128K Mac, too. :)
And, well, the all-in-one design is cute... I still have two of the original
On Mar 24, 2005, at 17:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lots of snipping here . . .
As I mentioned before, I got into Macs after OS X, then I got
interested in the OS's history and got an SE/30, with System 6
System
7 floppies, and who-knows-what on the HD (I forget).
[...]
5) Any Mac OS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
good ol' days either. At the company I work for (a 200+ employee
newspaper office), we've been experimenting with OS X for months, putting
it on one or two machines at a time, truly being afraid to upgrade at
times because we could hardly manage a *stable* machine out of
puns intended!)
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And as someone who came late to Macs (7.5.n era), I didn't really 'get
Because I'm the guy Jobs and Sculley targeted with their marketing and they
were right on. The Mac is about lifestyle and freedom to express yourself
the way you want -- the power of the individual. The original Compact
represents that. The icon endures, because of what it represents. Beyond
that,
Because I'm the guy Jobs and Sculley targeted with their marketing and they
were right on. The Mac is about lifestyle and freedom to express yourself
the way you want -- the power of the individual. The original Compact
represents that. The icon endures, because of what it represents. Beyond
On Mar 23, 2005, at 19:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But, I'll take it a step farther -- after 20 years, the thing still
works! And everything I
already said that endears me to the Mac, is heightened by a sense of
nostalgia about the way the world worked 20 years ago.
Actually, in addition to what
Why do you enjoy your compact Macs? With all of the technology on the
market these days, what is the appeal? My Classic II runs OS 7, an OS that
I find very appealing and efficient. It's almost as portable as a laptop,
is comfortable on practically any surface because of its small footprint,
is
On Mar 22, 2005, at 09:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you enjoy your compact Macs? With all of the technology on the
market these days, what is the appeal? My Classic II runs OS 7, an OS
that
I find very appealing and efficient. It's almost as portable as a
laptop,
is comfortable on
On 22/3/05 10:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why do you enjoy your compact Macs? With all of the technology on the
market these days, what is the appeal? My Classic II runs OS 7, an OS that
I find very appealing and efficient. It's almost as portable as a laptop,
is
On 22 Mar 2005, at 14:29, Eagle wrote:
I like the Compacts, especially the Plus, because they are what
started this GUI revolution. I marvel at what Apple was able to do
with an OS that fits on an 800k floppy -- with room to spare!
4Mb RAM with a 800Kb floppy? That's simply excessive. ;-)
On Mar 22, 2005, at 09:56, Stuart Bell wrote:
On 22 Mar 2005, at 14:29, Eagle wrote:
I like the Compacts, especially the Plus, because they are what
started this GUI revolution. I marvel at what Apple was able to do
with an OS that fits on an 800k floppy -- with room to spare!
4Mb RAM with a
On 22 Mar 2005, at 15:04, Eagle wrote:
I hear ya. I just wish they'd still work with my OS X file server. I
had to put a Beige G3 in the mix (running OS 9) so that all my
computers could share files at a single share point... :(
Are you running AppleTalk bridge on the G3 to do that, or are
On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:10, Stuart Bell wrote:
On 22 Mar 2005, at 15:04, Eagle wrote:
I hear ya. I just wish they'd still work with my OS X file server.
I had to put a Beige G3 in the mix (running OS 9) so that all my
computers could share files at a single share point... :(
Are you running
I like the Compacts, especially the Plus, because they are what started
this GUI revolution.
I think you misspelled the Xerox Dorado/Dolphin and the Xerox Star Office
System.
The Mac was briefly amazing, considering what Apple was able to fit into such
a small computer, but other systems also
On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:14, Peter da Silva wrote:
I like the Compacts, especially the Plus, because they are what
started
this GUI revolution.
I think you misspelled the Xerox Dorado/Dolphin and the Xerox Star
Office
System.
I didn't say Apple invented the GUI. I said Apple started the
If they hadn't kicked Jobs out in 1985, he might've been inclined to
let them do that, but from experience I can tell you that NeXTSTEP
really needs a large display.
I've got plenty of experience with NeXTSTeP, myself, and also with the
UNIX-based clones. The main problem I found with NeXT
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