Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread Rich Schinnell

At 11:58 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:

Date:Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:20:41 -0500
From:Reid Katan ka...@his.com

My Toshiba is claimed to have a 60G SATA drive in it. Assuming so,
circa 2005 or so, can I put something like a 250G or more in there?
I'm guessing that the SATA spec allows for such things. Or would it be
more of a BIOS thing, and if so, how does one find what is supported?

TIA


Reid, I have successfully update my last 4 toshiba laptops with larger
hard disks.  I used acronis image backup to an external USB/E-Sata drive.
 Installed the drive in the same slot as the smaller old one and and 
then booted the cd that acronis created.  worked and I now had a much larger

C drive. Make sure that the bios is set to boot CD/DVD first..

The nice thing about Vista and W7 is the ability to shrink and grow the
volumes.

Rich 



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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread Andy Gallant
You could also go to Toshiba.com's product support pages and plug in the 
model number.  There are detailed specs (which may help) and an 
accessory finder (which may show other internal drives for that model).


-Andy


Tony B wrote:

A 2005 computer should be able to handle a 250G drive. But I wouldn't
assume it's SATA. You're going to have to open it and make absolutely
sure before you order a new one.


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote:

My Toshiba is claimed to have a 60G SATA drive in it. Assuming so, circa
2005 or so, can I put something like a 250G or more in there? I'm guessing
that the SATA spec allows for such things. Or would it be more of a BIOS
thing, and if so, how does one find what is supported?



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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Andy Gallant a...@agallant.com wrote:

 You could also go to Toshiba.com's product support pages and plug in the
 model number.  There are detailed specs (which may help) and an accessory
 finder (which may show other internal drives for that model).

 Would Belarc tell you on a laptop?  I would assume it would work as well.
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html


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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Easiest way is to go to the manufacturers web site and see what 
options or upgrades they sell.  They will tell you which drives 
usually fit in there and the specs.


I would not assume a laptop made in 05 would be SATA.

We bought a Toshiba for my son in 05 and it had an IDE drive in it.

You would have to see what the largest sized IDE laptop drive you can find is.

St3wart


At 10:20 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:

My Toshiba is claimed to have a 60G SATA drive in it. Assuming so,
circa 2005 or so, can I put something like a 250G or more in there?
I'm guessing that the SATA spec allows for such things. Or would it be
more of a BIOS thing, and if so, how does one find what is supported?

TIA


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Re: [CGUYS] Reformatted HDD --big problems still!.

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Gail if this is a Dell you can go to their web site and download all 
your drivers.


When you run the self expanding driver it will create a directory on 
your HD called dell and will make a subdirectory of the driver.  Mark 
down the number of each driver, and the do an install of the hardware 
or when it asks for a disk, direct it to the subdirectory.


Stewart


At 12:34 AM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
Hi I rinally (for the first time) reformatted my HDD on my Dell 
Dimension E510.


The procedure went surprisingly well, and I THOUGHT I had gathered 
all the software, drivers, etc., taht I needed. However, somebody 
said the drivers would be on the ereformat drive so I wasn't very 
careful about that I fear!


So I can't find the proper sound card driver -- well, I apparently 
had it because the sound worked for a couple days but then I 
downloaded Service Pack 2 and now I have a couple issues: There is 
no sound. I've double checked to be sure the speakers are plugged in 
and I've looked at the Device Panel to see that my IDE High 
Definition CODEC has a yellow question mark and when I check it, 
I'm told that the device cannot start (Code 10). The troubleshooter 
wants me to uninstall it let the system reinstall it it seems to 
think all will be well. So I did that and it sstill doesn't work. 
Upon the found new hardware I'm asked for a disk and then we go 
back to grund zero.


I have to suspect that this came about with the installation of 
Service Pack 2. And I have two other issues (that i had on my 
machine before the reformat) which are two error messages at 
atartup, having to do with my DLINK router that I use to access the 
Internet through my Comcast Modem. The messages are:
AIRGCFG.EXE NOT FOUND (WLANAPI.DLL). The other one is WZCSLDR2.EXE 
-- driver not found in wlanapi.dll. Those two issues (and a couple 
more) occurred before the reformat after I onstalled Service Pack 2 
on the machine a few months ago.  No users except myself are in my 
little network- on the desktop and the laptop.


So long as it's not hurting anything these latter two annoyances can 
stay but I really need to see what I can do to restore sound to my system.


One of the reasona I wanted to reformat the HDDD was so I could get 
my Media Center up and running again and then watch TV through my 
Hauppauge USB Box. When iI first got this machine 3 years ago it 
worked beautifully but , sometime around the time I installed 
Service Pack 2, it stopped working, Of course until I can get sound 
it seems silly to test to see if I can get the TV to work NOW THAT i 
HAVE REFORMATTED THE DRIVE SO so I haven't done that yet.


Any help/advaice/ etc you can provide will be MUCH appreciated. I'm 
eager to get this finished so I can get on with Christmas!


Warmest regards,
Gail Miller

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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Betty translation sites lack the human factor.

I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer.  The 
result was acceptable but not great.


I also had my mother translate it for me.  They were different.

One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and 
phrasing for things like this.


It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the 
person of that language as they would not say it correctly.


Example.  English - Shut the window please.  German - Bitte 
schleissen dem fenster.


That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way.

Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte.   Make the 
window too please!  Sounds awful in English but it is a proper 
translation again.


All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning 
that language and makes you speak more like a native.


Stewart

At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English 
is very good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her 
if she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to 
Google's language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to 
her. She laughed. It was pistachio spelled phonetically using the 
Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that she recognized, the 
she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling nut.


I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate 
Spanish -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek 
-- English is better. It's also handy in translating Russian, 
since I don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary.


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread chad evans wyatt
As one who has had to substitute phrase and idiom within translation over some 
time, I would caution that close often is close enough.  Precision lies 
elsewhere, hence my comment that GoogleTranslate is valuable.  Often, I have to 
read through msgs from my correspondents swiftly, in order to understand 
intention.  That works a lot of the time.  As example, Czechs tolerate little 
not exact, but we in the US accept language that is imprecise, in order to 
grasp meaning, our own minorities do not express themselves precisely..

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:

From: Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 10:14 AM

Betty translation sites lack the human factor.

I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer.  The result was 
acceptable but not great.

I also had my mother translate it for me.  They were different.

One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing 
for things like this.

It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of 
that language as they would not say it correctly.

Example.  English - Shut the window please.  German - Bitte schleissen dem 
fenster.

That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way.

Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte.   Make the window too 
please!  Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again.

All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that 
language and makes you speak more like a native.

Stewart

At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
 I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very 
 good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted 
 pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's language tools and 
 translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was pistachio 
 spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that 
 she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a 
 smiling nut.
 
 I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish 
 -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is 
 better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the 
 alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary.
 
 Betty

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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
For reading a message it is great, but do not use it to communicate 
with someone else and expect them to really take you seriously.


My dad years ago would do this and then have my mother clean it up 
for him.  (Paid programs)


Stewart


At 10:25 AM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
As one who has had to substitute phrase and idiom within translation 
over some time, I would caution that close often is close 
enough.  Precision lies elsewhere, hence my comment that 
GoogleTranslate is valuable.  Often, I have to read through msgs 
from my correspondents swiftly, in order to understand 
intention.  That works a lot of the time.  As example, Czechs 
tolerate little not exact, but we in the US accept language that is 
imprecise, in order to grasp meaning, our own minorities do not 
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread Steve at Verizon
A good test of machine translation is to translate and then translate 
back to the original language. This can also be highly amusing.


Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Betty translation sites lack the human factor.

I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer.  The 
result was acceptable but not great.


I also had my mother translate it for me.  They were different.

One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and 
phrasing for things like this.


It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the 
person of that language as they would not say it correctly.


Example.  English - Shut the window please.  German - Bitte schleissen 
dem fenster.


That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that 
way.


Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte.   Make the 
window too please!  Sounds awful in English but it is a proper 
translation again.


All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning 
that language and makes you speak more like a native.


Stewart

At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is 
very good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if 
she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's 
language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She 
laughed. It was pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai 
alphabet. We looked for a photograph that she recognized, the she 
told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling nut.


I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate 
Spanish -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- 
English is better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I 
don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary.


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread tjpa

On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:25 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote:

I would caution that close often is close enough.


It gets one from zero comprehension to as much as 90% comprehension.  
That is quite an achievement and very useful.


Maybe a computer should not even try to do better. Because the  
translation is rough it makes us acutely aware that there could be  
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is great to help comprehension and to get the gist of what is 
written in a foreign language.  No doubt.


But sometimes it misses the subtleties that can also be contained in there.

They are always a good start, but should never be substituted for the 
real thing.


Stewart


At 12:20 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:

On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:25 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote:

I would caution that close often is close enough.


It gets one from zero comprehension to as much as 90% comprehension.
That is quite an achievement and very useful.

Maybe a computer should not even try to do better. Because the
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread chad evans wyatt
Amusing for you, perhaps, but essential cross-cultural understanding for me, 
Steve.  Sometimes, our US-centric orientation is unseemly.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:27 PM

A good test of machine translation is to translate and then translate back to 
the original language. This can also be highly amusing.

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
 Betty translation sites lack the human factor.
 
 I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer.  The result was 
 acceptable but not great.
 
 I also had my mother translate it for me.  They were different.
 
 One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing 
 for things like this.
 
 It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of 
 that language as they would not say it correctly.
 
 Example.  English - Shut the window please.  German - Bitte schleissen dem 
 fenster.
 
 That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way.
 
 Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte.   Make the window 
 too please!  Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again.
 
 All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that 
 language and makes you speak more like a native.
 
 Stewart
 
 At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
 I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very 
 good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted 
 pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's language tools and 
 translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was 
 pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a 
 photograph that she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated 
 again] it's called a smiling nut.
 
 I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish 
 -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is 
 better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the 
 alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary.
 
 Betty
 
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 mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
 Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread chad evans wyatt
Thanks, for your compassionate understanding in this, Rev.  In the plane of 
cross-cultural acitivity, those of us grasping for any tool are grateful, 
imperfect as those may be.  All of you should understand, beyond 
geek-centricity, that some of us are using tools to bring people together, 
offering moment for those with aspiration to reach chance.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:32 PM

It is great to help comprehension and to get the gist of what is 
written in a foreign language.  No doubt.

But sometimes it misses the subtleties that can also be contained in there.

They are always a good start, but should never be substituted for the 
real thing.

Stewart


At 12:20 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:25 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote:
I would caution that close often is close enough.

It gets one from zero comprehension to as much as 90% comprehension.
That is quite an achievement and very useful.

Maybe a computer should not even try to do better. Because the
translation is rough it makes us acutely aware that there could be
some big errors.


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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Part of the art of translation is understanding the subtleties of translation.

That is why when I went to seminary the ability to read Greek, 
Hebrew, and if possible German and Latin were required.


Because when you deal with original text's just a literal translation 
will not cut it.


My language skill has waned over the years.  But I still do reading 
to see how it should be done and understand the subtleties being described.


It never hurts to learn a foreign language.

My cousin who graduated from a trade school in Germany was required 
to learn two foreign languages to graduate.


In the state of Alabama, to receive an advanced diploma you need two 
years of a foreign language.  TO get a general high school diploma no 
foreign language is required.  We cripple our own children by not 
challenging them to live in a multi cultural world.


Stewart


At 02:20 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
Thanks, for your compassionate understanding in this, Rev.  In the 
plane of cross-cultural acitivity, those of us grasping for any tool 
are grateful, imperfect as those may be.  All of you should 
understand, beyond geek-centricity, that some of us are using tools 
to bring people together, offering moment for those with aspiration 
to reach chance.


--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:


From: Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 1:32 PM

It is great to help comprehension and to get the gist of what is
written in a foreign language.  No doubt.

But sometimes it misses the subtleties that can also be contained in there.

They are always a good start, but should never be substituted for the
real thing.

Stewart


At 12:20 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:25 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote:
I would caution that close often is close enough.

It gets one from zero comprehension to as much as 90% comprehension.
That is quite an achievement and very useful.

Maybe a computer should not even try to do better. Because the
translation is rough it makes us acutely aware that there could be
some big errors.


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[CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread Ranbo
Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here.  My Dell
desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly.  When
I click on links nothing happens.  Sites don't load or only very, very
slowly, hence the constipation metaphor.  IE freezes up and Fire Fox (which
is what I usually use) is having the above problems.  Documents also open
slowly.  These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly worse
since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the
previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role.  I notice that it
now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I
downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this as
I recall).  I also have at least one other spyware program running, so
wonder if I have too much of a good thing.

My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's wrong
or how to fix it.  Are there simple steps I should take to see if the
problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is
not able to show the Toolbar.  Don't know if this is related, but in
Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional.  Tried to
reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One
other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to
download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once
did).  Couldn't get this fixed, either.  Don't know if this might be related
to other problems.

Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things are
breaking down and it looks terminal??  Should I just start uninstalling
questionable software?  I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things
worse.  I have 1 gig of memory.  Should I add more?  Will this magically
solve everything?! :)



Thanks as always

Randall


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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread John Emmerling
This game was invented by Philip K. Dick in Galactic Pot-Healer (1969).

Probably one of the most accurate predictions in the history of SF.

On 12/7/09, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
 Betty translation sites lack the human factor.

 All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning
 that language and makes you speak more like a native.

 A friend  I used to play a little email game. One of us would take a
 well-known quote, use an online tool to translate it into a non-English
 language, and then translate it back to English. The other
 one had to come up with the original quote from the result.

 Here's how Babelfish translates Never in the field of human combat has so
 much been owed by so many to so few into Korean and back:

 Field of battle which is human purely to be like this some in compliance
 with the like this many thing from assuredly was getting into debt.

 You get the idea--it's not easy, and it shows just how lacking the online
 tools can be.


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Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread Ellen Rains Harris

Operating system?  Amount of RAM?

Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000.


- Original Message - 
From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com

To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!


Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here.  My 
Dell
desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. 
When

I click on links nothing happens.  Sites don't load or only very, very
slowly, hence the constipation metaphor.  IE freezes up and Fire Fox 
(which

is what I usually use) is having the above problems.  Documents also open
slowly.  These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly 
worse

since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the
previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role.  I notice that it
now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I
downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this 
as

I recall).  I also have at least one other spyware program running, so
wonder if I have too much of a good thing.

My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's 
wrong

or how to fix it.  Are there simple steps I should take to see if the
problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is
not able to show the Toolbar.  Don't know if this is related, but in
Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional.  Tried 
to

reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One
other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to
download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once
did).  Couldn't get this fixed, either.  Don't know if this might be 
related

to other problems.

Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things 
are

breaking down and it looks terminal??  Should I just start uninstalling
questionable software?  I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things
worse.  I have 1 gig of memory.  Should I add more?  Will this magically
solve everything?! :)



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Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread Ranbo
Thanks,  I am noticing that at least with IE, I can click on links and
actually go to them.  Long ago I had disabled the Windows firewall to use
Zone Alarm's.  Was that a mistake?
Using XP.

Randall




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Ellen Rains Harris 
el...@goodshiptabasco.com wrote:

 Operating system?  Amount of RAM?

 Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000.


 - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM
 Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!


   Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here.  My
 Dell
 desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. When
 I click on links nothing happens.  Sites don't load or only very, very
 slowly, hence the constipation metaphor.  IE freezes up and Fire Fox
 (which
 is what I usually use) is having the above problems.  Documents also open
 slowly.  These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly
 worse
 since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, when the
 previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role.  I notice that it
 now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro version I
 downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have this
 as
 I recall).  I also have at least one other spyware program running, so
 wonder if I have too much of a good thing.

 My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out what's
 wrong
 or how to fix it.  Are there simple steps I should take to see if the
 problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says Firefox is
 not able to show the Toolbar.  Don't know if this is related, but in
 Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional.  Tried
 to
 reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. One
 other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to
 download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once
 did).  Couldn't get this fixed, either.  Don't know if this might be
 related
 to other problems.

 Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things
 are
 breaking down and it looks terminal??  Should I just start uninstalling
 questionable software?  I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make things
 worse.  I have 1 gig of memory.  Should I add more?  Will this magically
 solve everything?! :)



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Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]

2009-12-07 Thread Steve at Verizon

I said nothing about English being one of the languages.

chad evans wyatt wrote:

Amusing for you, perhaps, but essential cross-cultural understanding for me, 
Steve.  Sometimes, our US-centric orientation is unseemly.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:27 PM

A good test of machine translation is to translate and then translate back to 
the original language. This can also be highly amusing.

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
  

Betty translation sites lack the human factor.

I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer.  The result was 
acceptable but not great.

I also had my mother translate it for me.  They were different.

One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing 
for things like this.

It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of 
that language as they would not say it correctly.

Example.  English - Shut the window please.  German - Bitte schleissen dem 
fenster.

That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way.

Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte.   Make the window too 
please!  Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again.

All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that 
language and makes you speak more like a native.

Stewart

At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:


I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very good, but there are many 
words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to 
Google's language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was 
pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that 
she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling 
nut.

I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish -- 
English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is better. It's also 
handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use 
a dictionary.

Betty
  

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Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread tjpa

On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ranbo wrote:
My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out  
what's wrong

or how to fix it.  Are there simple steps I should take to see if the
problem(s) get better?


1) Start up in Safe Mode (with networking) and see if the problem goes  
away.


2) Bookmark a site and see if that performs differently than typing  
its URL.


3) Access a site that is giving you problems using its IP address  
instead of its URL.


3) Ping some websites to see if the round trip time makes sense. Does  
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Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread tjpa

On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ranbo wrote:
Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many  
things are

breaking down and it looks terminal??


Hardly, even a PC can be saved and shown the way of righteousness.


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[CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Christopher Range
I had to re-format my hard drive and, when I tried to install the 
driver, from the driver disc, it told me the disc was damaged.  When I 
went on LG's website, I couldn't find, where the drivers are located.  
Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread mike
Might want to give us the drive serial, os...etc etc...

:)

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote:

 I had to re-format my hard drive and, when I tried to install the driver,
 from the driver disc, it told me the disc was damaged.  When I went on LG's
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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Christopher Range

mike wrote:

Might want to give us the drive serial, os...etc etc...

:)
OS: XP Pro SP1(installing SP2 n' SP3, once I find the driver for the 
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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread John DeCarlo
You might try:

http://www.lge.com/us/support/product/support-product-profile.jsp?customerModelCode=W2053TX-PFinitialTab=documentstargetPage=support-product-profile

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote:

 I had to re-format my hard drive and, when I tried to install the driver,
 from the driver disc, it told me the disc was damaged.  When I went on LG's
 website, I couldn't find, where the drivers are located.  Any help would be
 appreciated.



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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Tony B
That's just a monitor, isn't it? You shouldn't need any drivers. Are
you having some specific trouble?


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote:
 I had to re-format my hard drive and, when I tried to install the driver,
 from the driver disc, it told me the disc was damaged.  When I went on LG's
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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread mike
Make sure the video driver is installed correctly...i've never worried about
a monitor driver.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's just a monitor, isn't it? You shouldn't need any drivers. Are
 you having some specific trouble?


 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net
 wrote:
  I had to re-format my hard drive and, when I tried to install the driver,
  from the driver disc, it told me the disc was damaged.  When I went on
 LG's
  website, I couldn't find, where the drivers are located.  Any help would
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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread mike
Yeah, i don't know what kind of brain fart I had...thanks.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote:

 mike wrote:

 Might want to give us the drive serial, os...etc etc...

 :)

 OS: XP Pro SP1(installing SP2 n' SP3, once I find the driver for the
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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Christopher Range

mike wrote:

Yeah, i don't know what kind of brain fart I had...thanks.

Well, I didn't originally state the OS or, the serial number so, no problem.


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Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread Ranbo
*Thanks for the tips.  PC and I both can use salvation.*

**



On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:13 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ranbo wrote:

 Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many things
 are
 breaking down and it looks terminal??


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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Christopher Range

Tony B wrote:

That's just a monitor, isn't it? You shouldn't need any drivers. Are
you having some specific trouble?
It is a monitor.  Just like you, I didn't think I would need drivers for 
it.  But, There is a driver disc, that came with it.  Probably because, 
the monitor has a USB connector, instead of a 15-pin connector.  The 
disc got damaged and, I can't install the driver from the disc.


The same goes for mouse n' keyboard needing drivers.  Since they are 
also USB.(but the disk is not damaged)


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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Christopher Range

mike wrote:

Make sure the video driver is installed correctly...i've never worried about
a monitor driver.
Up until I got my widescreen monitor, I didn't have to worry about 
drivers because, I had always used a 17 CRT.


Now, With a USB monitor, I have to think about it.

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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread mike
I really can't recall the last time I ever had to install drivers for a
mouse, keyboard or monitor.  Although I don't get weird 18 button mice nor
any kind of special keyboard.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.netwrote:

 Tony B wrote:

 That's just a monitor, isn't it? You shouldn't need any drivers. Are
 you having some specific trouble?

 It is a monitor.  Just like you, I didn't think I would need drivers for
 it.  But, There is a driver disc, that came with it.  Probably because, the
 monitor has a USB connector, instead of a 15-pin connector.  The disc got
 damaged and, I can't install the driver from the disc.

 The same goes for mouse n' keyboard needing drivers.  Since they are also
 USB.(but the disk is not damaged)

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[CGUYS] Strange Mouse Wins Acclaim

2009-12-07 Thread tjpa

New Apple mouse really is 'Magic'
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/09/kellner-new-apple-mouse-really-is-magic/

Enter the Magic Mouse, announced a few weeks back. Although it is a  
normal computer mouse in the sense of being able to move the cursor  
around, its clicking, scrolling and sweeping actions make it more  
like the latest notebook touch pads than the older mice this new  
device has rendered obsolete.


But it's the very act of scrolling with the Magic Mouse that is,  
well, magical. Unlike using the scroll wheels on many (most?) of  
today's mice, the simple move of gliding one's fingers up and down the  
mouse feels more natural than I can describe in words. It just works  
better.


Until a user spends a few minutes with the Magic Mouse, I fear that  
any description, no matter how enthusiastic, won't properly convey how  
good a product this is. After decades of using computer input devices,  
I think this is the finest mouse ever.


P.S. Doesn't work with Windows.

P.P.S. What the heck am I doing reading the Washington Times?


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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Tony B
The LG page at 
http://www.lge.com/us/computer-products/monitors/LG-lcd-monitor-W2053TX.jsp
clearly shows it's a regular (not USB) monitor. That would certainly
explain why you can't find a USB driver app for it. Maybe you just
have the model number wrong.


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Christopher Range lcms0...@comcast.net wrote:
 Tony B wrote:
 That's just a monitor, isn't it? You shouldn't need any drivers. Are
 you having some specific trouble?
 It is a monitor.  Just like you, I didn't think I would need drivers for it.
  But, There is a driver disc, that came with it.  Probably because, the
 monitor has a USB connector, instead of a 15-pin connector.  The disc got
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Re: [CGUYS] Strange Mouse Wins Acclaim

2009-12-07 Thread Tony B
At least *he* doesn't make the claim that this is anything new.


On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 New Apple mouse really is 'Magic'
 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/09/kellner-new-apple-mouse-really-is-magic/


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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread Reid Katan
Thanks to all that made suggestions. I ran AIDA 32 (Similar to Belarc)  
on the Toshiba and it reported the drive as being Ultra ATA. A quick  
Google search on the model number told me that it is a Hitachi SATA  
drive, so I'm confident there.


I'm not so worried about cloning the drive. It's time for a wipe due  
to strange problems that I'll relate in a separate thread. I figure it  
would be a good time to get more space for dual booting.


Hitachi says it's a 9.5mm thick drive. I was going to get an enclosure  
for it, but it looks like 9mm is the standard(?). Is that the case,  
and if so, will a half mm make that much difference? Looks like it's  
about 3/128th of an inch. Guess that depends on how tight the  
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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread Tony B
Ultra ATA  SATA. I'm telling you, you'll be making a big mistake to
rely on anything except your own eyes. In most laptops, it's only a 5
minute procedure to open it up and look at it - probably less time
than you've taken so far playing with software. And you're going to
have to do it eventually anyway to replace it.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote:
 Thanks to all that made suggestions. I ran AIDA 32 (Similar to Belarc) on
 the Toshiba and it reported the drive as being Ultra ATA. A quick Google
 search on the model number told me that it is a Hitachi SATA drive, so I'm
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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of 2.5 drives. . .

2009-12-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I would check visually also, as Ultra ATA is IDE not SATA.  (IDE is 
usually listed as PATA nowadays)


SATA stands for Serial ATA.  IDE was a totally different interface.

Why not put the model of the laptop up here, maybe some of us have 
had experience with it.


Stewart


At 10:49 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:

Ultra ATA  SATA. I'm telling you, you'll be making a big mistake to
rely on anything except your own eyes. In most laptops, it's only a 5
minute procedure to open it up and look at it - probably less time
than you've taken so far playing with software. And you're going to
have to do it eventually anyway to replace it.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote:
 Thanks to all that made suggestions. I ran AIDA 32 (Similar to Belarc) on
 the Toshiba and it reported the drive as being Ultra ATA. A quick Google
 search on the model number told me that it is a Hitachi SATA drive, so I'm
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Re: [CGUYS] Strange Mouse Wins Acclaim

2009-12-07 Thread t.piwowar

On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:26 PM, mike wrote:

WOW...70 bux.


Mac owners earn more than WFBs so no problemo.

P.S. I sent this in 2 weeks ago and it gets delivered only now.


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Re: [CGUYS] LG Flatron W2053TX driver disc problem

2009-12-07 Thread Christopher Range

Tony B wrote:

The LG page at 
http://www.lge.com/us/computer-products/monitors/LG-lcd-monitor-W2053TX.jsp
clearly shows it's a regular (not USB) monitor. That would certainly
explain why you can't find a USB driver app for it. Maybe you just
have the model number wrong.
I see now, that it is not a USB.  But, I don't have the model wrong, 
because it is on the front of the monitor and, it doesn't explain, why a 
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Re: [CGUYS] Strange Mouse Wins Acclaim

2009-12-07 Thread mike
I think it's more that MFB's have nothing better to spend their money on.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:34 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:26 PM, mike wrote:

 WOW...70 bux.


 Mac owners earn more than WFBs so no problemo.

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Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!

2009-12-07 Thread db
Uninstall the whole virus package you installed, turn windows firewall 
back on for some protection and see if that

improves things.   If so, google the symptoms related to that software.

Sometimes security packages go wrong...

db



Ellen Rains Harris wrote:

Operating system?  Amount of RAM?

Generally, you don't need a firewall in any Win version after 2000.


- Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation - help!


Once again I seek the wisdom that is so generously dispensed here.  
My Dell
desk top just doesn't seem to want to do anything right...or quickly. 
When

I click on links nothing happens.  Sites don't load or only very, very
slowly, hence the constipation metaphor.  IE freezes up and Fire Fox 
(which
is what I usually use) is having the above problems.  Documents also 
open
slowly.  These problems seem to have occurred or become significantly 
worse
since I installed the upgrade for the free AVG software on Dec 1, 
when the
previous version expired, so wonder if this has a role.  I notice 
that it
now has a spy ware software, as well as the free Zone Alarm Pro 
version I
downloaded maybe 2 months ago (the previous free version didn't have 
this as

I recall).  I also have at least one other spyware program running, so
wonder if I have too much of a good thing.

My question is - I don't even know where to start to figure out 
what's wrong

or how to fix it.  Are there simple steps I should take to see if the
problem(s) get better? I can't even fix the message that says 
Firefox is

not able to show the Toolbar.  Don't know if this is related, but in
Firefox, don't even have the back keys highlighted or functional.  
Tried to
reinstall Firefox but got a message and wouldn't even let me do this. 
One

other thing - the program that is supposed to automatically begin to
download pics from digital camera to PC also isn't working (and it once
did).  Couldn't get this fixed, either.  Don't know if this might be 
related

to other problems.

Is my computer now like a very old person or car, where too many 
things are

breaking down and it looks terminal??  Should I just start uninstalling
questionable software?  I'm afraid if I start tinkering, I'll make 
things

worse.  I have 1 gig of memory.  Should I add more?  Will this magically
solve everything?! :)



Thanks as always

Randall


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