M$ cares little about new hardware; they tell you when to buy new M$
software, what they make.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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HUH?
MS never tells anyone what they have to buy.
I think the 1 Ghz processor speed for 7 is quite low.
I have a couple of those still around but
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
What I was trying to get at is very often specialized software does not
upgrade as fast as OS's do.
When my wife worked at a newspaper they still ran one of the first Mac's as
that is what the specialized
Depends on what you use the computer for and your budget. Generally
every three to five years is common. Some high end professionals
replace their computers in two to three, some more often. My company
replaces laptops every three years. Some home users keep them much
longer, but they become
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM
(IS)mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:
Depends on what you use the computer for and your budget. Generally
every three to five years is common. Some high end professionals
replace their computers in two to three, some more often. My company
Okay, so your peripheral (due to your budget) is driving your decision
to keep longer than you otherwise would. Hope you're saving to
eventually replace that old plotter/cutter... It will go some day.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
I have to keep an older computer around
Schools are notorious for keeping their equipment much longer.
However here is a twist.
Very often companies will buy new equipment but put legacy OS's on
them because their applications or the vendor of their applications
are behind the curve in getting their systems to run on the new OS's.
have you tried the USB to serial conversion kits?
They do not require a USB driver for the printer end.
You install the USB/Serial convertor and set up the Serial end to
communicate with your device.
Stewart
At 07:19 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Snyder, Mark -
Mark this is not at all uncommon as OS and hardware manufacturers do
not take into account what some equipment requires and costs.
These plotters have not gone down in price along with most other
peripherals. They also get much harder to find so their prices actually go up.
Have you priced
Reverend,
Reverting to previous OS versions is more of a Windows thing; it is not
as common in OS X, except for some specialized software packages that
are not yet supported in a new version of OS X. Apple, however, does
not sell previous versions of OS X, people get that from third party
No, I mean what is acceptable for Apple or any other OS vendor to tell you
your hardware is too old you have to spend money again.
I find it ironic that some of the MFBs have touted the low price of snow cat
evading the fact that apple is a hardware company, not a software one..and
also not
Hooey. My two Macs are both over four years old. The older one runs
10.3.9, the other runs 10.5. No plans to upgrade further until I decide
to replace the older computer. My closet computer, a 12-13 year old
model, still runs OS 9 and works fine.
The cut-off for 10.6 is based on CPU; it
What I was trying to get at is very often specialized software does
not upgrade as fast as OS's do.
When my wife worked at a newspaper they still ran one of the first
Mac's as that is what the specialized software was written for. They
ran an all Mac office, but still kept this original (I
It must be an Intel Mac to run Leopard.
Stewart
At 10:55 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
No, I mean what is acceptable for Apple or any other OS vendor to tell you
your hardware is too old you have to spend money again.
I find it ironic that some of the MFBs have touted the low price of snow cat
No, it must be an Intel CPU to run Snow Leopard. Leopard (10.5) will
run on both processors.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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It must be an Intel Mac to run Leopard.
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HUH?
MS never tells anyone what they have to buy.
I think the 1 Ghz processor speed for 7 is quite low.
I have a couple of those still around but they are old!
I bought an Emachine for my daughter in 03 and it was a 2
Ghz. (Which makes it 6 years old)
I know folks that have just upgraded
Same thing.
The only Intel Mac's are the Intel CPU Mac's.
Stewart
At 11:52 AM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
No, it must be an Intel CPU to run Snow Leopard. Leopard (10.5) will
run on both processors.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
It must be an Intel Mac to run Leopard.
What he means is:
Leopard (10.5.X) will run on a Power PC (867MHz+ G4 or higher) or Intel Mac
Snow Leopard (10.6.X) will only run on an Intel Mac (1GHz min.)
I understand your confusion on the semantics and cat names, though. ; )
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Same thing.
The only Intel
It is all cat games.
Stewart
At 12:24 PM 8/31/2009, you wrote:
What he means is:
Leopard (10.5.X) will run on a Power PC (867MHz+ G4 or higher) or Intel Mac
Snow Leopard (10.6.X) will only run on an Intel Mac (1GHz min.)
I understand your confusion on the semantics and cat names, though. ;
That is all BS.
When they introduce a new OS they are usually taking advantage of new
hardware features that are available.
I get a little tired of the snide off hand remarks that have no basis
in reality.
It has been pointed out numerous times (And you and a few other have
seen to ignore
No, 10.5 (Leopard) will run on PowerPC or Intel models; 10.6 (Snow
Leopard) only runs on Intel CPU models.
Not the same thing.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
Same thing.
The only Intel Mac's are the Intel CPU Mac's.
Stewart
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:15:11 -0500, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote:
M$ cares little about new hardware; they tell you when to buy new M$
software, what they make.
I don't mean to jump into your intellectual conversation here, but I
have yet to be visited by the Microsoft Police telling me that it
Hooey? And then you go and make my point and not even notice.
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:
Hooey. My two Macs are both over four years old. The older one runs
10.3.9, the other runs 10.5. No plans to upgrade further until I decide
to
As others have pointed out, no one is being forced to buy new hardware.
Our older computers haven't lost any of their capabilities because
Snow Leopard has come out.
It makes just as much sense to rail about being made to buy a new
computer because you want to use 4GB of ram and your old one
Are you so certain hw innovations are driving sw development?I would be happy
with XP through if they never releases a new OS. But I am aware that as
hardware advances they will want to write a new OS to take advantage of the new
capabilities of that hardware.
The only time I am forced to buy new hardware is when my dies. (Or I
screw up like bending the pins on a CPU.)
Recently I have recycled some old computers for folks who have need
of a new machine because theirs died (for whatever reason)
It could be bad HD (I swap out HD's) or a bad board,
I just read an article on Snow Leopard (To distinguish it from Leopard)
And in it, it stated that Snow will better make use of Dual/Quad core
CPU's and help software better utilize the processors
capabilities. It also said it will use it's OS to better use teh
CPU's of Video Cards which have
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
It is called a forced Hardware Upgrade
This happens with MS releases also, although they do go further back than
Apple does.
I still have an old laptop that I could not install ME on as it was not a
fast
What is an acceptable time frame for leaving hardware behind?
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 5:32 AM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
It is called a forced Hardware Upgrade
This happens with
Eric S. Sande wrote:
Apple and MS both do this to make sure people do not complain that it
makes their systems run like a dog not realizing that the hardware
was never designed for it to begin with.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
Not Mark Twain, but Groucho Marx.
You're right, of course.
Old age is my defense.
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I've read discussion of what you can update with the $30 version of Snow
Leopard, but I have a specific question that I'm not sure about and have
not seen anything written about.
This notebook has Leopard, but I did a migration from My iMac when I got
it. I'm thinking of getting a fresh start
I just read in one of the reviews that you can do a full install with this
update dvd. One of the advantages of your business being hardware, it makes
the licensing of the software much less strict.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
I've read discussion of what
On Aug 29, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Jordan wrote:
This notebook has Leopard, but I did a migration from My iMac when I
got it. I'm thinking of getting a fresh start with this hard drive
with a clean custom install. So is the $30 version of Snow Leopard a
complete OS, or would I have to install
*However, in contrast to Microsoft—which offers a confusing array of full
and upgrade versions of Windows, all of them requiring that users enter a
unique serial number in order to prove they’re not pirates—Apple continues
to rely on the honor system for Mac OS X. Not only does Snow Leopard not
...you do not need leopard to install to snow cat rather.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:14 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
*However, in contrast to Microsoft—which offers a confusing array of full
and upgrade versions of Windows, all of them requiring that users enter a
unique serial number in
On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:14 PM, mike wrote:
Apple continues to rely on the honor system for Mac OS X. Not only
does Snow Leopard not
require the entry of any serial numbers...
We leave the thieving, lying, cheating to our WFBs.
Have you seen the latest ad/demo of Mac's moral superiority?
Apple relies on the honor system?
There seems to be a discrepancy in this string ...
Can you just buy or borrow someone else's Snow Leopard and install it on
any Mac or what?
db
mike wrote:
*However, in contrast to Microsoft—which offers a confusing array of full
and upgrade versions of
Again Tom misses the point completely.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:14 PM, mike wrote:
Apple continues to rely on the honor system for Mac OS X. Not only does
Snow Leopard not
require the entry of any serial numbers...
We leave the
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:54 PM, db db...@att.net wrote:
Apple relies on the honor system?
There seems to be a discrepancy in this string ...
Can you just buy or borrow someone else's Snow Leopard and install it on
any Mac or what?
Any Intel Mac. I've heard the argument that Apple would
It is called a forced Hardware Upgrade
This happens with MS releases also, although they do go further back
than Apple does.
I still have an old laptop that I could not install ME on as it was
not a fast enough processor (I am not sure it would even install 98SE.)
I have a couple of
You know your life is pretty boring when you start comparing it to a Dog's.
Stewart
At 10:31 PM 8/29/2009, you wrote:
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
--Mark Twain
Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of
Apple and MS both do this to make sure people do not complain that it
makes their systems run like a dog not realizing that the hardware was
never designed for it to begin with.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
--Mark Twain
FYI:
Quoted from:
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/08/yes_snow_leopard_includes_anti.php
Yes, Snow Leopard Includes Antivirus
Even a year or two ago, the inevitable responses on Mac lists to any
mention of Mac malware were along the lines of:
Mac viruses can't happen and
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Rich Schinnell wrote:
Quoted from:
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/08/yes_snow_leopard_includes_anti.php
There are exactly two specimens of malware in the list. Both relying
on social engineering for distribution.
That's all folks!
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