Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2019-11-08 Thread George Bruseker
Hi Ethan, Here is my take. > > > I have a large number (thousands) of monograms that appear on Greek coinage. > There is an SVG file that represents an idealized form of the monogram. The > Nomisma ontology has a nmo:Monogram class, and I am attempting to link > Nomisma more directly as

Re: [Crm-sig] Siegfried Krause

2019-11-09 Thread George Bruseker
It’s very sad to hear this news. He was a kind hearted person and contributed important ideas and work to the semantic data community. Condolences to his family, George On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 12:50 AM Matthew Stiff wrote: > This is awful news. My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

Re: [Crm-sig] Participation to forthcoming meeting

2015-05-08 Thread George Bruseker
://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/people/people_individual.jsp?Person_ID=13 - ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- George

[Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM - issue 276 Shortcuts, P2

2015-10-05 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, With regards to knowledge creation process and shortcuts and, in particular, P2, a draft position formulated by Øyvind and myself is offered below: “All knowledge in a data system is introduced into said system by a human agent, either directly or indirectly. In the domain of

[Crm-sig] Homework Issue 276 Knowledge and Attribution (in relation to P2 type shortcuts)

2015-10-09 Thread George Bruseker
Dear All, For consideration in relation to homework 276, after discussion in the group of a first draft. A statement on attribution of responsibility for content of a knowledge base. 'All knowledge in an information system is introduced into that system by some human agent either directly or

Re: [Crm-sig] VOTE for the name of E78 Collection

2016-02-05 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I vote Yeah. Best, George > On Feb 5, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Chryssoula Bekiari wrote: > > Dear All > > In the last meeting, the crm-sig meeting decided to vote for the name of E78 > Collection (issue 270). The proposal is to rename the E78 Collection to E78 > Curated Holdings > >

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework, Purchase

2016-02-18 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Daria and Siegfried’s description of actual museum practice is absolutely correct. That being said, to my reading of the scope note, the intention of the proposed Purchase class is as a specific sub class extension to allow the modelling of acquisitions with this particular

Re: [Crm-sig] Location of a Group

2016-09-07 Thread George Bruseker
95 fax : +33 (0)2 98 01 63 93 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- George Bruseker Marie Curie Fellow E.U. FP7 People Programme Initial Training Network for Digital and Cultural Heritage FORTH - Centre

Re: [Crm-sig] IFLA Governing Board has endorsed FRBRoo ver. 2.4

2017-03-01 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, That is great news. Congratulations on the achievement! We will have to update on cidoc site as well accordingly. Sincerely, George > On Mar 1, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Christine Oliver > wrote: > > Dear Colleagues of the CIDOC CRM SIG, > > The IFLA FRBR Review Group is very happy to

Re: [Crm-sig] End of Existence for Rights?

2017-08-15 Thread George Bruseker
Dear Rob et al., I would say that the modelling of conceptual object and its begin/end relation is correct also in this instance. It is not the existence of the right qua concept that terminates when the right over something expires. I would argue that the right can exist before it comes into

Re: [Crm-sig] End of Existence for Rights?

2017-08-15 Thread George Bruseker
other problem > situations. > TTFN > SdS > > Stephen Stead > Tel +44 20 8668 3075 > Mob +44 7802 755 013 > E-mail ste...@paveprime.com > LinkedIn Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/steads/ > > -Original Message- > From: Crm-sig [mailto:crm-sig-boun...@ic

[Crm-sig] Attending CIDOC 2017

2017-08-17 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I am just posting this message to see who is or may be planning to attend CIDOC 2017 in Tblisi. If you are, would you let me know at bruse...@ics.forth.gr? Cheers, George

Re: [Crm-sig] End of Existence for Rights?

2017-08-21 Thread George Bruseker
ce on possible Open and Closed World resolutions > to the problem. > >Stephen Stead >Tel +44 20 8668 3075 >Mob +44 7802 755 013 >E-mail ste...@paveprime.com >LinkedIn Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/steads/ > >-Original Message- >

Re: [Crm-sig] Passive Activities

2017-08-22 Thread George Bruseker
Hi Francesco, Welcome back. Your post goes through a lot of points. For the sake of argument I took up the A example. Doing B would have taken me a long time but I think the same exercise could be done. I have nothing against states, but they should come in where they would be needed. In the

[Crm-sig] CRM in the Modelling World - Issue Proposal

2017-09-13 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Ran across this resource (http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/vocabs/crm ) recently in which we are listed but not very well represented. Is it worth trying to up our representation in this sort of resource. E.g.: they don’t seem to be able to

[Crm-sig] Provisional Agenda for the 39th joined meeting of the CIDOC CRM SIG and ISO/TC46/SC4/WG9 and the 32nd FRBR - CIDOC CRM Harmonization meeting

2017-09-15 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Please find attached the provisional agenda for the upcoming meeting to be held at ICS-FORTH in Heraklion, Crete from October 9th to 12th, 2017. The agenda currently foresees presentations by Martin Doerr on ‘Formal Ontology: epistemological and methodological principles’ as well as

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE using CRM

2017-10-03 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I don’t know of CRM encoded data with this information, but internal movement is traced in almost any major collections management system that I know of. The one I am most familiar with is the Emu system owned, now, by Axiell. It generates automatic internal movement records when

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE using CRM

2017-10-03 Thread George Bruseker
). It would be tracked by any museum using Emu and their internal moves module properly. Cheers, George > On Oct 3, 2017, at 1:05 PM, George Bruseker wrote: > > Dear all, > > I don’t know of CRM encoded data with this information, but internal movement > is traced in almost any

[Crm-sig] Post-doctoral offer PUBLICATION OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL DATA IN THE LINKED OPEN DATA

2017-11-24 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I am writing to advertise a post-doc position offered by UMR 7324 CITERES-Laboratoire Archéologie et Territoires (LAT), University of Tours, CNRS. The lab has adopted CIDOC CRM to integrate some of its field excavation records and wants to increase this activity significantly in the

[Crm-sig] Modelling Principles Document Update

2017-12-01 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, FYI, we have gone up a version of CRM Principles document to v.0.1.3. New text includes distinction between an ontology and a data structure. Find the new link below. Modelling Principles 0.1.3

[Crm-sig] Location for Dinner Tonight

2018-01-16 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, For everyone at the meeting these days, the place where we will be having dinner is: Brauhaus Pütz (Engelbertstraße 67, 50674 Köln) Approx meeting time is 6p.m. Best, George

[Crm-sig] EAA 2018: Session 555: Using the CIDOC CRM for archaeologists: from theory to practice

2018-01-29 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Please find below an invitation for papers on CRM and archaeology at this year’s EAA. Best, George We would like to invite your EAA2018 paper proposals for: Session 555: Using the CIDOC CRM for archaeologists: from theory to practice [Theme: Theories and methods in

Re: [Crm-sig] EAA 2018: Session 555: Using the CIDOC CRM for archaeologists: from theory to practice

2018-01-29 Thread George Bruseker
For more on this year’s European Archaeological Association Conference in Barcelona and for the official submission tool see: https://www.e-a-a.org/eaa2018 <https://www.e-a-a.org/eaa2018> > On Jan 29, 2018, at 4:08 AM, George Bruseker wrote: > > Dear all, > &

[Crm-sig] CFP SW4CH 2018 *CALL FOR PAPERS*

2018-02-01 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Just posting a conference of potential interest to SIG mailing list members: -George —— *CALL FOR PAPERS* Third International Workshop on Semantic Web for Cultural Heritage (SW4CH 2018) In conjunction with ESWC 2018, June 3-4, Heraklion, Crete, Greece

Re: [Crm-sig] Domain and range of P90

2018-02-22 Thread George Bruseker
Dear Phil et al., I think this is a case of interpreting the label of the property rather than its intention. CRM ‘has value’ isn’t supposed to cover all possible meanings of the natural language interpretation of has value. Rather it has a very restricted use. It is meant to give the

Re: [Crm-sig] Domain and range of P90

2018-02-27 Thread George Bruseker
there provide a good answer? http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-240-new-encoding-property-for-e90-symbolic-object <http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-240-new-encoding-property-for-e90-symbolic-object> Best, George > On Feb 22, 2018, at 11:46 AM, George Bruseker wrote: > > Dear Phil

Re: [Crm-sig] Domain and range of P90

2018-02-28 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, While I agree that it is the case that RDF is only one potential serialization of CRM, it is nevertheless a fact on the ground it is the most popular at the moment and a standard into which people invest real time and real money. It is, typically, where CRM becomes flesh. Since CRM

[Crm-sig] SIG Lyon May 18

2018-03-05 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I forward to you, on behalf of our hosts, important logistic information regarding the upcoming SIG that will be held in Lyon this May. Thanks again to our hosts for the invitation to hold the SIG with them. We look forward to seeing you there! Sincerely, George > It's a good

Re: [Crm-sig] Deployment of CIDOC CRM as Linked Data

2018-03-05 Thread George Bruseker
Dear Richard, This is really interesting. Pardon my lack of knowledge, but who is this group? Quite a nice service of them to provide. Do they provide a register of sources? Best, George > On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:33 PM, Richard Light wrote: > > Hi, > > On hearing the announcement of the

[Crm-sig] SIG Lyon May 22-25, 2018

2018-03-05 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Just amending my subject line to clear up any potential ambiguity caused by my date shorthand! Best, George > On Mar 5, 2018, at 12:34 PM, George Bruseker wrote: > > Dear all, > > I forward to you, on behalf of our hosts, important logistic information > rega

Re: [Crm-sig] Domain and range of P90

2018-03-07 Thread George Bruseker
>> I use to describe the dilemma in these terms: >> Making Standards >> >> The good with standards is there are so many! >> When you have a standard, >> >> You need to transform to the standard >> >> You need to renew and adapt the

Re: [Crm-sig] Scope note of event

2018-05-22 Thread George Bruseker
Hi Rob et al., Just to jump in on the reason for this particular scope note reformulation work. The reason behind the effort to articulate a new scope note lies in the reference to states in the previous scope note which has caused an ongoing debate regarding where then ‘states’ are in CIDOC

[Crm-sig] Dinner in Lyon Tonight

2018-05-22 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, After all that semantics, victuals: Place: Bistrot du Palais (https://goo.gl/maps/eoUfrKfh1JR2 ) Time: 19:30 , Today 22/5/18 How to get there: Metro Place Guichard OR Tramway 1 Palais de Justice Cheers, George

[Crm-sig] Dinner Tonight for SIG Meeting participants

2018-05-23 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I forward on behalf of Melanie an invitation to dinner this evening: Like I said yesterday, I will be delighted to hold a get-together for the SIG people (group) tonight at my ridiculously huge place. Unfortunately I don’t have access to everyone’s email address as I can’t access my

Re: [Crm-sig] Opening hours in scope?

2018-07-06 Thread George Bruseker
Hi Rob, It is my understanding that affairs of an administrative type like this are out of scope for CRMbase. That being said, for Parthenos project, which deals with services, I have moved in the direction of adding such things. Particularly, we made a class under E7 Activity for ‘services’

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE Label-free RDF classes PLEASE VOTE

2018-07-24 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I do not want to be obstructionist to progress on a pragmatic issue but I feel that we should pause the vote process. It seems to be that both sides have very good points and we need to find a means to reconcile these as much as possible. Let me try to abbreviate the main aspects

[Crm-sig] Digital Heritage 2018 CIDOC CRM Session

2018-08-14 Thread George Bruseker
to discuss. We will send a final version of our proposal towards the end of the week, so if you are interested please get in contact as soon as possible. Sincerely, George and Anais -- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cult

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue: Solution for Dualism of E41 Appellation and rdfs:label

2018-09-10 Thread George Bruseker
e want to name something about which we care for the name (much of the time) 2) rdfs:label Value This should be used on all nodes to give a human readable label. This is often enough if we don’t study the names used. Best, George -- Dr. George Brus

Re: [Crm-sig] HTML Page – identifiable portion of the HTML page / of a manuscript

2018-09-11 Thread George Bruseker
Dear Francesco, > On Aug 29, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Francesco Beretta > wrote: > > Dear all, > > How would you model in CRM 6.2 a HTML page that you can retrieve by entering > a URL in a web browser (and is therefore identified by the URL at a given > date) ? As a E90 Symbolic Object or a E73

Re: [Crm-sig] Parent of F4 Manifestation Singleton

2018-09-16 Thread George Bruseker
-- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece Tel.: +30 2810 391619 Fax:

Re: [Crm-sig] Parent of F4 Manifestation Singleton

2018-09-17 Thread George Bruseker
lse> -- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10 Herakl

Re: [Crm-sig] image or object

2018-10-05 Thread George Bruseker
I second Olivier’s advice. It’s not ‘what it is’ but what you are going to do with it/ use it for. G -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology

[Crm-sig] Berlin SIG Attendance Confirmation 27-30 Nov, 2018

2018-11-06 Thread George Bruseker
> https://doodle.com/poll/f5fdwkquq5fefg37 > <https://doodle.com/poll/f5fdwkquq5fefg37> ------ Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - H

Re: [Crm-sig] PLEASE VOTE (deprecating P58, issue 345)

2018-11-15 Thread George Bruseker
Yes G -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10

Re: [Crm-sig] PLEASE VOTE :deprecating P149

2018-11-15 Thread George Bruseker
Yes G -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 345, P59 needs change

2018-11-15 Thread George Bruseker
Yes G -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10

Re: [Crm-sig] PLEASE VOTE :deprecating P149

2018-11-15 Thread George Bruseker
Yes G -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10

Re: [Crm-sig] **NEW ISSUE** Ordinal Property for E55 Type

2019-01-04 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Overall, I would say it sounds like a good proposition. I post my replies to Martin’s queries below. With regards to label, I agree with Franco that greater/lesser is not right, but I’m also not sure that follows/precedes is a good terminology either. I don’t think it is very

[Crm-sig] Fwd: [Data for History] Doctoral position

2019-02-14 Thread George Bruseker
This seems an interesting position -Dear all,A funded PhD position is available in the University of Lorraine (Nancy, France) at the intersection of computer science (essentially semantic web) and history of science and technology under the supervision of Olivier Bruneau (Archives Poincaré,

[Crm-sig] Fwd: CfP - EXTENDED deadline RODBH 2019, April 4-5 - Leipzig - Germany

2019-02-15 Thread George Bruseker
MT+2To: Liste Data for History <dataforhist...@listes.ens-lyon.fr>Cc: Thomas Riechert <thomas.riech...@htwk-leipzig.de>, Francesco Beretta <francesco.bere...@ish-lyon.cnrs.fr>, George Bruseker <bruse...@ics.forth.gr>, Vincent Alamercery <vincent.alamerc...@ens-lyon.fr>

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 326 Resolving inconsistencies between E2, E4, E52 and E92

2019-03-11 Thread George Bruseker
-- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece Tel.: +30 2810 391619 Fax: +30

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 326 Resolving inconsistencies between E2, E4, E52 and E92

2019-03-13 Thread George Bruseker
ecified possibly because we have said E18 isA E92. Best, George -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika V

[Crm-sig] Rights Modelling Discussion / Proposal for upcoming CRM SIG

2019-03-13 Thread George Bruseker
in Paris in June. Nevertheless, it seems like it would be good to do the groundwork in Heraklion on the basic issues, so that we could hopefully proceed to create a more useful modelling of this topic in the near future. Best, George -- Dr. George

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 326 Resolving inconsistencies between E2, E4, E52 and E92

2019-03-14 Thread George Bruseker
things clear. Best, George -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385

Re: [Crm-sig] New issue: Missing inverse of P189 PLEASE VOTE

2019-04-06 Thread George Bruseker
] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig [2] http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cultural Informa

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE E34 PLEASE VOTE

2019-04-11 Thread George Bruseker
stinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece Tel.: +30 2810 391

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Re-label E22, E25, E71 to remove "Man-"

2019-04-12 Thread George Bruseker
s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_(word) ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation fo

[Crm-sig] Meeting Minutes of Last SIG, Preparation for upcoming SIG (Paris, 11-14 June, 2019)

2019-05-03 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, The meeting minutes of the 43rd SIG held in Heraklion, Crete from 26-29 March, 2019 are now available at the link below thanks to Eleni and Chryssoula. http://www.cidoc-crm.org/arg_news/6114 For those planning to attend the upcoming SIG in Paris 11-14 June, 2019, we hope having

Re: [Crm-sig] SPARQL Endpoints

2019-05-17 Thread George Bruseker
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. George Bruseker R & D Engineer Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10 Heraklio

[Crm-sig] 44th CIDOC CRM and 37th FRBR CRM

2019-06-01 Thread George Bruseker
eing you all in Paris. Sincerely, George ------ Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vass

[Crm-sig] CRM SIG Logistics Paris

2019-06-04 Thread George Bruseker
/1EfNVR7CGmKIP-QldPW5zxLYam5-PvCuG-BYaa8BNsNM/edit#gid=0> ------ Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete

Re: [Crm-sig] CRM SIG Logistics Paris

2019-06-04 Thread George Bruseker
Also please see the following map for better navigation on site -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology

[Crm-sig] Agenda for Upcoming 44th and 37th FRBR Harmonization SIG - Paris, June 11-14, 2019 @BNF

2019-06-06 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all,Please find attached the agenda for the SIG next week. As usual there may be last minute changes and we will get through the number of issues that is realistic to get through given the time, but this agenda gives the general plan of our discussions. Please don’t forget to indicate,  if

[Crm-sig] Agenda for 44th Meeting

2019-06-10 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all,Chryssoula has compiled and prepared the latest version of the agenda for our 44th Sig and 37th Harmonization Meeting in word format which I attach here. There is some discussion of moving the LRMoo sessions to Friday morning. We will have to decide tomorrow of the feasibility of this.

[Crm-sig] 44th CRM SIG & 37th CRM - FRBR Harmonization Meeting - Thanks

2019-06-18 Thread George Bruseker
the basic time bands for next year’s meeting and will send doodles soon in order to check for the best weeks. Hope you all had safe journeys home. Best, George -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute

Re: [Crm-sig] Reuse identifiers of obsolete entities never published

2019-06-18 Thread George Bruseker
I also support there not being reuse of numbers. There is no end of numbers to choose from. Best, George -- Dr. George Bruseker Coordinator Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology

Re: [Crm-sig] EMAIL SUSPEITO: P72 has Language

2019-08-26 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, In the context of multiple modelling projects, I have run into the need to model the fact that an individual is known to have spoken/used a language. It is a common attribute recorded of an individual in an information system. Often, the only information we have / is known, is that

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-08-27 Thread George Bruseker
gative things like “not known to speak > Latin” as this is a nasty place to be: absence of Knowledge versus > knowledge of absence…… > > > > Use of a technique is that also the use of an immaterial object? > > > > Anyway off to bed now. Very interesting question > >

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-08-28 Thread George Bruseker
E55 Type​. Should such a connection be in the type > system (in the fringes or outside CRM)? If we introduce a new property from > E21 Person what is the range, E55 Type? > > Best, > Christian-Emil > From: Crm-sig on behalf of George Bruseker > > Sent: 27 August 201

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-08-28 Thread George Bruseker
youtube.com/watch?v=73rY81pT5Wk). > > Best, > > Franco > > Prof. Franco Niccolucci > Director, VAST-LAB > PIN - U. of Florence > Scientific Coordinator > ARIADNEplus - PARTHENOS > > Editor-in-Chief > ACM Journal of Computing and Cultural Heritage (JOCCH

[Crm-sig] Issue 418 sparql end points hw

2019-10-01 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Here is a link to a spreadsheet wherein sparql end points with crm data available have been listed. I have been contact with as many providers as i could directly. Further Matteo Lorenzini was able to add data from his research.

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-10-14 Thread George Bruseker
ded >>> activities. We describe a potter by doing pottery, not by having the >>> potential. The skill is a potential. CRM is evidence oriented. People >>> speaking a language do it. How do we assess the Skill?? Aren't the events >>> enough? (Exams, professi

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-10-14 Thread George Bruseker
from that graph. I struggle to see the esoteric ness of the proposal and do see how it fits to the modelling principles we elaborated. Best, George > > Best, > > martin > > > > > On 10/14/2019 4:24 PM, George Bruseker wrote: > > Dear Martin, > > Which

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-10-14 Thread George Bruseker
> questions, and the CRM is about relations between particulars. > > So, what is the* added value* against p2, and what are the typical > research data and typical research questions for *integrating* such data, > that cannot be answered with P2? > > Best, > > martin > > &g

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-10-15 Thread George Bruseker
d) > capacity of the person. > > > > Of course, this is just an observation that doesn't prove anything. > Personally, I would tend towards Martin's view that there is little, if > anything, to be gained by defining such kind of statement in a reference > model such as the CIDO

[Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-20 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, At the recent Linked.art event, the Linked.art group was attempting to model information related to auctions. It happens that during auctions, lots (collections or sets of things) are created with the intention that things will be sold together. Ie they are aggregates. In facing the

Re: [Crm-sig] PLEASE VOTE: about the introductory text for the “Use and Learn” section of the CRM site

2019-10-23 Thread George Bruseker
Yes, edits welcome On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 9:44 AM Дарья Юрьевна Гук wrote: > Simply "method", even well elaborated looses the aim, applicability. > > > With kind regards, > Daria Hookk > > Senior Researcher of > the dept. of archaeology of > Eastern Europe and Siberia of > the State Hermitage

Re: [Crm-sig] Describing Exhibitions ?

2020-03-06 Thread George Bruseker
You might want to hop over to the Linked.Art forum and check out what is going on. It is the major focus of modelling right now (using CRM). It is not finalized but you can at least follow the live discussions and make your own decisions. Best, George On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:36 PM Thomas

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of?

2020-02-16 Thread George Bruseker
It seems to make sense to raise as an issue. The case does seem to come up reasonably frequently. The parallel seems convincing. For the moment we could cover temporal elements by initiating the existing of the property via an E13 attribute assignment (if we had such info). > On Feb 15,

Re: [Crm-sig] Relative position under and over - adjusted text

2020-02-16 Thread George Bruseker
I have the same intuition on this. It is a similar line to the language question. If people document it and use it, then it does not seem to be the role of the SIG to say that it is not interesting for documentation or integration. Surely it is the specialists who know this, and the conceptual

Re: [Crm-sig] workshop tutorials at CIDOC 2020: September 19-25, 2020?

2020-02-14 Thread George Bruseker
Hi all, All else being equal, I will be at CIDOC 2020, and can run a CIDOC tutorial if required. Cheers, George On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:46 PM Martin Doerr wrote: > Dear Christian-Emil, Robert, > > Aligning would be great! I'd say CRM-SIG should have a pre-conference > tutorial, as usual,

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE P114-P120 VOTE

2020-01-13 Thread George Bruseker
I vote yes On Mon., Jan. 13, 2020, 12:05 p.m. Athanasios Velios, < thana...@softicon.co.uk> wrote: > I vote YES as well. > > Thanasis > > On 12/01/2020 10:13, Martin Doerr wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > If you agree that > > > > "the following Allen's temporal relations should be deprecated in the

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-17 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, It seems a very fruitful discussion. Can I add some other 'complications' into it. Starting from what Detlev proposes: > > For formal specifications such as ontologies, there is a widely adopted > pattern for change management which goes like this: > > > >

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-17 Thread George Bruseker
> > > > > > I will point out that on the CRM site, there is also an entire > > > architecture wherein each version has its own overall > presentation: > > > e.g.: http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Version/version-6.2.1 > > > > I think this should be maintained but not used as URIs for

Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-17 Thread George Bruseker
t; exploit the constituent letters via P106_is_composed_of in SPARQL. We have >> at least a few examples of Monograms that consist of both Latin letters and >> a Christogram, e.g., >> >> >> >> ?monogram crm:P106_is_composed_of+ "Ρ" #Greek rho >&g

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-17 Thread George Bruseker
official release with the next SIG (fingers crossed) which I guess would probably entail updating the drupal resource to the latest state. Best, George On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:41 PM Robert Casties wrote: > Hi George, > > On 17.01.20 10:47, George Bruseker wrote: > > I

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-17 Thread George Bruseker
> > > > Links would certainly be useful but the web server's content negotiation > mechanism should be enough to deliver the right format to the client, is > this what you mean? > > My underlying assumption would be that the default thing served up would be html, but you could reach the other

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I agree that this is an ongoing issue that creates barriers to uptake because of confusion. It is an oft repeated question and deserves a clear answer. We need a solution based on community wide best practice. Suggestions? Best, George On Thu., Jan. 16, 2020, 12:51 p.m. Francesco

Re: [Crm-sig] and now something completely different - a modelling question

2020-01-20 Thread George Bruseker
Dear Christian Emil, I agree with what Franco says but still we have no property that allows you to connect the two different meanings here entailed. I think this came up also with rights and the question of modelling jurisdiction. We don't have a property to connect periods to groups but what

Re: [Crm-sig] The EPISA project on the P15 Virtual Poster Session

2020-04-13 Thread George Bruseker
Dear Maria, Congratulations on this project. I am really interested to dig further into it. Thanks for sharing the poster. Best, George > On 31 Mar 2020, at 1:02 PM, Maria Jose de Almeida > wrote: > > The EPISA project (Entity and Property Inference for Semantic Archives) is > part of the

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-15 Thread George Bruseker
cribe the actual situation? Again, I imagine it's not a CRMbase issue, but for transactions, I have often run into this 'acting for someone else' and still don't see how it would be well described without new classes and properties (haven't found what I'm looking for). Cheers, George > &

[Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM SIG Meeting of June 23-26, 2020 to be held in Online Format

2020-04-16 Thread George Bruseker
and safety in the meantime. Sincerely, George Bruseker Vice Chair, CIDOC CRM SIG ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

[Crm-sig] E-Votes for Several Open Issues

2020-04-16 Thread George Bruseker
to have feedback on the process/tools (good or bad). Sincerely, George Bruseker Vice-Chair CIDOC CRM SIG ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-17 Thread George Bruseker
working for one organisation that is doing a job for another one, then one gets E7 Activity "Lawn Mowing" pc01i is domain of PC14 Carried Out by pc02 carried out by E21 "George Bruseker" pc01i is domain of PC14 Carried Out by p14.1 in the role of E55 "implementer" pc0

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-17 Thread George Bruseker
te the #MAGAZINEgts > ground-truth format and its implementation as a reference model for the > 48-issue run of Softalk magazine. You will find the digital collection > here: https://archive.org/details/softalkapple?sort=date. The > #MAGAZINEgts work-in-process file is linked from the collec

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling the number of sheets used to print a book

2020-04-17 Thread George Bruseker
Hi Florian, So do I understand the question right that you want to keep track of the envisioned number of pages regardless the actual number whether it be a digital or physical format? In FRBR 2.4 there is the property on F3 which is CLP57 should have number of parts. Could work if you are using

[Crm-sig] Question: How to model a 'file'

2020-04-15 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, Here is another humble modelling problem for which I don't feel that there is a commonly agreed and documented answer, although it is a common question. How do we connect an actual file with the semantic network? So here is the scenario. I have a file: a word doc, a jpg image, a

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-15 Thread George Bruseker
in.Solutions ? This would be a light solution which > would just require to create a specific event and two associated properties. > > All the very best to you and all at CRM-SIG, > Pierre > > > > On Tue, Apr 14th, 2020 at 5:47 PM, George Bruseker < > george

[Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-14 Thread George Bruseker
acts in their capacity as the representative of an organization. Examples: The Conceptual Modelling (E7) is carried out by George Bruseker (E21) as representative of Takin.Solutions (E74) The Diplomatic Reception (E7) is carried out by Ms. Diplomat (E21) as representative of the Canadian

[Crm-sig] New Issue: CRM Community Information for Website

2020-09-10 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I would like to propose a new community issue. It has been some time since there was an update of the activities and use of CRM by the community on the CRM site. The use cases page: http://www.cidoc-crm.org/useCasesPage Does not give an up to date picture of all the activities that

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