Re: [css-d] 2 Column layout + equal height problem

2005-10-26 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: "Alison Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://www.aycee.co.uk/x_temp/test.html >(http://www.aycee.co.uk/x_temp/test.css) >The layout looks just how I want it to in IE (in IE 6 anyway, not sure about >others) except the right column doesn't quite stretch the full height of the >content div - ther

Re: [css-d] One True Layout Centered

2005-10-26 Thread anathema
One more thing to add - the issue / problem is not with the #footer and #header. Those are dealt with easily by using text-align: center and margin: 0 auto; Anathema __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.

Re: [css-d] One True Layout Centered

2005-10-26 Thread anathema
There are various problems with your file, as far as IE mac goes: 1/ the hack you use to serve the float on wrapper to old IE 5 win - IE Mac fails to recover and sees the float property 2/ the filter you use on the ruleblock #header /* */, #footer /* */ { margin: 0 auto; } IE Mac ignores

Re: [css-d] 2 Column layout + equal height problem

2005-10-26 Thread David Laakso
Alison Lee wrote: I've got the age-old problem of trying to create a layout that has two columns that appear to be equal height, one fixed width and one fluid, no matter which column has more content in it. http://www.aycee.co.uk/x_temp/test.html (http://www.aycee.co.uk/x_temp/test.css) Al

Re: [css-d] One True Layout Centered

2005-10-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 27 Oct 2005, at 7:45 am, anathema wrote: I discovered Alex Robinson's One True Layout [props bro!] the day it was published and have been trying to make it a fixed width centered design. Obviously it is easy in standard compliant browsers simply by putting a margin: 0 auto; on the wrapper.

Re: [css-d] One True Layout Centered

2005-10-26 Thread anathema
margin: 0 12.5% 0 12.5%; Can you explain where you got 12.5%? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://w

Re: [css-d] One True Layout Centered

2005-10-26 Thread Jono
On 10/26/05 6:45 PM, "anathema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I discovered Alex Robinson's One True Layout [props bro!] the day it > was published and have been trying to make it a fixed width centered > design. Obviously it is easy in standard compliant browsers simply by > putting a margin: 0 aut

Re: [css-d] Put gap in list styled for navigation

2005-10-26 Thread Steve Clason
On 10/26/2005 6:01 PM Paul Jinks wrote: I've got a that I've styled as a nav bar. Fine. My client has now asked to have a gap the width of 1 list item to separate the last two list items as they are links to external sites. If you want to take a look, go to: http://www.digitalbeginnings.shef

Re: [css-d] Put gap in list styled for navigation

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Montoya
> I tried throwing the baby out with the bath water Poor baby! How could you throw him out? > I'm missing something really obvious, right. But what? Did you try using padding? #external { padding-top:1em; } Also, I recommend putting the external links in a second UL, since using CSS to differe

RE: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread Peter Williams
> From: Pringle, Ron > > I'm trying to understand exactly why the W3C CSS validator > now spits out > errors for instances where you do not declare a color on a > property with a > background-color declaration, or vice versa. It's just a "sanity check" sort of a tip. Just intended to alert you

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Montoya
> > There is a link now in this page: > http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm > > The link loads a second page that simply has the min-width set to a > smaller value and the max-width to a larger value. Do both pages > behave for you or just one? > They really do both work. I

Re: [css-d] Safari and another td issue

2005-10-26 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Scott Haneda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >The images are 112px wide, I also have the td's all set to 112px wide, yet I >get this border. > >The outer table will be variable in that I do not know how many images are >to fit in the table, could be 1-5, s

[css-d] Put gap in list styled for navigation

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Jinks
Hi I've got a that I've styled as a nav bar. Fine. My client has now asked to have a gap the width of 1 list item to separate the last two list items as they are links to external sites. If you want to take a look, go to: http://www.digitalbeginnings.shef.ac.uk Here's the basic code: xhtm

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Al Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites When making the window narrower, the min-width expression should kick in at about 750px. http://www.projectsev

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Montoya
> > When making the window narrower, the min-width expression should kick > in at about 750px. > http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/pagepacks/utopia/vertical_liquid.htm > Both that site, and the flubber, work for me in IE 6. Did you change the flubber layout? Seems like there's a

Re: [css-d] ALA Sprite based menus issues

2005-10-26 Thread Derek de Jong
My description probably wasn't the best in the world so here's a link to some code that demonstrates my problem: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.reeds/sprites/ Thanks, G. Change: #header-nav-menu li, #header-nav-menu a { height: 125px; display: block; } to #header-nav-menu li, #he

Re: [css-d] CSS Validation

2005-10-26 Thread Vicki Stebbins
At 07:56 PM 26/10/2005, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Vicki Stebbins wrote: For me, I'll now include in my written estimate of a job, a clause which says something about 'warnings' in validation services just to cover all avenues. If you come up with a good text then let me know - off list, I guess.

[css-d] One True Layout Centered

2005-10-26 Thread anathema
I discovered Alex Robinson's One True Layout [props bro!] the day it was published and have been trying to make it a fixed width centered design. Obviously it is easy in standard compliant browsers simply by putting a margin: 0 auto; on the wrapper. The next course of action would be to use

[css-d] 2 Column layout + equal height problem

2005-10-26 Thread Alison Lee
Hi, I've got the age-old problem of trying to create a layout that has two columns that appear to be equal height, one fixed width and one fluid, no matter which column has more content in it. http://www.aycee.co.uk/x_temp/test.html (http://www.aycee.co.uk/x_temp/test.css) The layout lo

[css-d] Safari and another td issue

2005-10-26 Thread Scott Haneda
The images are 112px wide, I also have the td's all set to 112px wide, yet I get this border. The outer table will be variable in that I do not know how many images are to fit in the table, could be 1-5, so I can not easily set a width to the table. I

[css-d] ALA Sprite based menus issues

2005-10-26 Thread Graham Reeds
My description probably wasn't the best in the world so here's a link to some code that demonstrates my problem: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.reeds/sprites/ Thanks, G. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-di

RE: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
> well, except for the client that wants to be able to copy and paste > content from their site into whatever they want to use it in... it's > quite common for folks to copy/paste something, from an address to phone > number to entire paragraphs...and use it in other media, don't you think? Dar

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Alex Robinson
I didn't mean to stir up trouble, I just thought you'd want to know. I didn't mean to cause the boxes to disappear at all - they just did for some reason and >I finally figured out what I must have done to cause it. Of course I wanted to know Donna. It's an excellent catch. Anything that impe

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Donna Casey
windows xp pro sp2, not osx Tom Livingston wrote: Wow. How'd you do that!?!?!? OS X FF 1.0.7 Don't see it in Safari or Opera 9pr1 Mac - under Tiger __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listi

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Donna Casey
Duckworth, Nigel wrote: Yep, exactly as Donna described. But...I can also make everything disappear by clicking on the little square box in the top right with the [x] in it. ;) Seriously though, who does this (besides us)? And is this "problem" unique to this method? I suppose someone wanting t

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Donna Casey
it doesn't appear to, Alex. I tried the steps on all of the examples and emailed you with the ones that it occurred with in FF and Mozilla 1.07 As for testing, if I had time, I would. I am happy to test any simple example you put up, though! just post and I'll get back to you to help as much a

Re: [css-d] Safari bordering a td that has NO style to it

2005-10-26 Thread Scott Haneda
on 10/26/05 9:41 AM, Johnnie Blevins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It looks like a bug from here, but I won't swear to that. > > You could get around it (at least in the case you showed), by adding > the following entry to your style sheet. > > td[colspan]{ > border: 1px solid transparent !

Re: [css-d] Frustration learning css for layout

2005-10-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Agnew wrote: CSS is clearly elegant and powerful, and I have little difficulty using it to style elements. And using divs for layout - which I'm new at - works pretty well designing for ONE browser. But trying to make the layout look right for 'all' browsers is driving me nuts (and I su

[css-d] Present nested tabular data without using table tags

2005-10-26 Thread Rob Freundlich
(bear with this one. it takes a lot of non-CSS setup before I get to the actual CSS question) I am working on a report-generating application that includes the ability to do nested subreports. For example, suppose the user defines the following reports: Report 1: Pets. Displays Name, Kind of A

RE: [css-d] Frustration learning css for layout

2005-10-26 Thread Dean Matsueda
> Without knowing or understanding some basics, I get the > feeling that I'm building on quicksand, and thinking fondly of tables. I totally sympathize but you hit the nail on the head... to master any piece of web technology (or just about anything really) you've got to get a thorough understand

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Alex Robinson
Small testcase: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/fxselectbug.html Confirmed with Firefox 1.0.5 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.9) Gecko/20050711] Not scrolling/bug fixed in Firefox 1.5beta2 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b5) Gecko/20051006]

Re: [css-d] problem with caption box

2005-10-26 Thread David Laakso
Trish Meyer wrote: At 9:29 AM -0400 10/25/05, David Laakso wrote: You might take a look at these methods for setting images and captions(note the file is 4.01 consequently the is not closed): It doesn't help me with my next problem of c

Re: [css-d] Frustration learning css for layout

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Are there any agreed-upon (or widely accepted) fundamentals > (conditional comments vs. hacks; the 'best' box-model hack; best > source for reliable hacks; top 3 issues to address, when and how to > position divs, etc)? > > Without knowing or understanding some basics, I get the feeling that > I'

[css-d] ALA Sprite based menus issues

2005-10-26 Thread Graham Reeds
I have several drop down menus which have several items on each. In total that is 31 different options. Quite a bit of code went into making the onmouseover events work, and it doesn't quite work well in all browsers and it doesn't scale well (there is a lot of broken code in the js). The fir

RE: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
> Suggestion for a fix: remove the position: relative in .wrapper h2 Ingo's fix worked for me FF 1.0.4 on XP. -Nigel __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-d

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Stuart Homfray
Christian Montoya wrote: This message *may* be viewed as a pointless addition to this argument, but, I don't like to see a guy on his lonesome in a fight!! :D I'd like to request that everyone on CSS-D stop making this into a fight. Christian, I have emailed you privately on this. The pro

[css-d] Frustration learning css for layout

2005-10-26 Thread David Agnew
CSS is clearly elegant and powerful, and I have little difficulty using it to style elements. And using divs for layout - which I'm new at - works pretty well designing for ONE browser. But trying to make the layout look right for 'all' browsers is driving me nuts (and I suspect I have company)

Re: [css-d] Styling input button+select box -- still looking for answer

2005-10-26 Thread Derek de Jong
The offending button can be seen at www.thedebauchers.com/align.php Adding this (to the CSS): input, select { vertical-align:middle; display:inline; } ... worked in Firefox 1.0.7/Win. Vertical-align tells the browser to align to the middle of the line, and the display property puts them on

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Michael Wilson
Donna Casey wrote: 1)http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/example/rounded 2) insert cursor just before text "Block2" in the green inner box As well, you cannot get the boxes back by reloading the page or hitting back button and returning, though you can click the exampl

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Alex Robinson wrote: What would be most useful is if someone with access to a Windows box and a bunch of Gecko-derived browsers could work on a simplified test case that shows what combination of nestedness, overflow: hiddens etc cause things to happen. Does the negative margins cause the probl

RE: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread Pringle, Ron
> Yes. The possibility that someone may have a user style sheet set up > with his or her own colors, which may end up contrasting with your > colors. So the idea is that if you're going to reset one of > the user's > preferences (color or background color), make sure you reset both of > the

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Al Sparber
Christian Montoya wrote: This message *may* be viewed as a pointless addition to this argument, but, I don't like to see a guy on his lonesome in a fight!! :D best, -Stuart I'd like to request that everyone on CSS-D stop making this into a fight. I am not fighting, and as I'm the one who brou

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Alex Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes I obviously didn't test for this exact problem in this exact browser on this exact platform. Probably because the OS X and Windows XP version of Firefox gave the same behaviour so many times inn my repeated save reload rituals that I often would ch

Re: [css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI wrote: Thanks for your response. The problem I'm having is not the look of the links. I wanted to have a header section of the page that contained all of the things in that section. I finally gave up on that and used this html:

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Montoya
> > This message *may* be viewed as a pointless addition to this argument, > but, I don't like to see a guy on his lonesome in a fight!! :D > > best, > > -Stuart I'd like to request that everyone on CSS-D stop making this into a fight. I am not fighting, and as I'm the one who brought up this bug,

RE: [css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI
Thanks for your response. The problem I'm having is not the look of the links. I wanted to have a header section of the page that contained all of the things in that section. I finally gave up on that and used this html: Link 1

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:15:55 -0400, Alex Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyhow, even if no one is up for doing the test case, can someone please say whether the problem occurs on either the boxes or the borders examples? Or even the simple unadorned one? Boxes did not act the same FF

[css-d] Styling input button+select box -- still looking for answer

2005-10-26 Thread Geoff Dougherty
Hi. Posted this the other day and didn't see any answers. Please help if you can. I have a select box set up with a 20px image as the submit button. I've tried several approaches to get the select box and the button to line up so that they're more or less vertically centered (the gif is taller t

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Livingston
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:05:32 -0400, Donna Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone else, since Alex needs confirmation? Donna Casey Wow. How'd you do that!?!?!? OS X FF 1.0.7 Don't see it in Safari or Opera 9pr1 Mac - under Tiger -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Alex Robinson
I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 with Firefox 1.07. Are you saying you didn't test this on Windows? No. I'm saying that I don't have access to a Windows box at the moment and that I can only use the OS X versions which obviously don't have the problem. Yes I obviously didn't test for this exa

Re: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
I originally replied to this off-list, but as the link looks like being useful to more people than Ron, I'll send it here too: > Hi all- > > I'm trying to understand exactly why the W3C CSS validator now spits out > errors for instances where you do not declare a color on a property with a > backg

Re: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread Adam Kuehn
Pringle, Ron wrote: I'm trying to understand exactly why the W3C CSS validator now spits out errors for instances where you do not declare a color on a property with a background-color declaration, or vice versa. It doesn't. The validator spits out WARNINGS for that situation, not ERRORS. T

Re: [css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI wrote: If you look at the nav here: http://webfx.eae.net/ you'll see that it sort of looks like buttons. Forget the tabs then, go with borders using "outset" Or set the top and left borders to one color and the bottom and rig

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> I can reproduce it consistently, and make nearly all the boxes disappear > simply by inserting my cursor at the beginning of any heading and > dragging through the content past the bottom of the box. If I keep > dragging downward, I can make all of the boxes (except the purple one) > scroll upwa

Re: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Hi Ron, Pringle, Ron wrote: Again, no color or background-color is applied to this since all paragraph text is colored on the tag and I obviously want the background image in the secondaryBottom div to show through. And yet the validator throws specific errors indicating that I haven't declar

Re: [css-d] AOL=IE on pc?

2005-10-26 Thread jeremy
thanks for the helpful info! I really appreciate you sending me the link as well. -jeremy Bryce Fields wrote: On 10/26/05, jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: fI was uder the impression that AOL uses the native IE in the system. Is that the case? I dont believe that is the case 100%,... I t

RE: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Yep, exactly as Donna described. But...I can also make everything disappear by clicking on the little square box in the top right with the [x] in it. ;) Seriously though, who does this (besides us)? And is this "problem" unique to this method? I suppose someone wanting to nick your copy would do th

Re: [css-d] ids for XHTML radio buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
David Feldman wrote: This may be off-topic, for which I apologize, It is off-topic, but instead of apologizing about it, don't post it in the first place. To everyone: if you ever find yourself tempted to write those words in your messages, stop right there and visit this page instead:

Re: [css-d] Safari bordering a td that has NO style to it

2005-10-26 Thread Johnnie Blevins
It looks like a bug from here, but I won't swear to that. You could get around it (at least in the case you showed), by adding the following entry to your style sheet. td[colspan]{ border: 1px solid transparent !important; } Unfortunately, this seems to break (slightly) in the current Fi

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Donna Casey
Alex Robinson wrote: same is true in Mozilla 1.7.6, windows xp pro sp2 Right. So it seems to be a windows xp doodhah thing then. I haven't got time to properly investigate this at the moment. But it would be worth getting to the bottom of. Does the same thing happen on the borders or boxes

Re: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread David Dorward
On 26/10/05, Pringle, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to understand exactly why the W3C CSS validator now spits out > errors for instances where you do not declare a color on a property with a > background-color declaration, or vice versa. It doesn't. It outputs a warning - "Watch out

Re: [css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread cFA
this has been baffling me ever since It changed. I wrote the list about it, and I still dont understand the need for all the bg's. But if these things are necessary to get perfectly valid/no warning/no error style sheets then I want to learn the right way... -- iron sharpens iron __

Re: [css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI wrote: > If you look at the nav here: http://webfx.eae.net/ you'll see that it > sort of looks like buttons. Forget the tabs then, go with borders using "outset" Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com __ css-d

Re: [css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-26 Thread Donna Casey
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout Alex Robinson wrote: This doesn't happen for me. It's very difficult to select any of the text, but the results you see just don't occur at my end. What platform are you on? I'm runnning OS X. I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 with Fi

Re: [css-d] problem with caption box

2005-10-26 Thread Trish Meyer
At 9:29 AM -0400 10/25/05, David Laakso wrote: You might take a look at these methods for setting images and captions(note the file is 4.01 consequently the is not closed): Thanks, I see this sets the caption box to a width based in %. I'm

Re: [css-d] AOL=IE on pc?

2005-10-26 Thread johnSteve
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:08:49 -0400, you wrote: >So I have been getting reports that verious elements of this website I >am working on appear "broken" and "off" when using AOL. only if you call restarts of AOL broken and off. Aol 9.0, xp professional your site forces a restart of aol. 3 times ("ao

[css-d] inherited left margin on form elements ?

2005-10-26 Thread Jelle Desramaults
Hello list, This is my first question on the list, nice to meet you all. My problem is situated at http://www.vh-dr.com/sub/preview/ars/newsite/admin/test.htm. css for this file is http://www.vh-dr.com/sub/preview/ars/newsite/admin/test.htm When you look at this page in IE 6.0 you"ll notice tha

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Donna Casey
Stuart Homfray wrote: I'm seeing *EXACTLY* what he's describing should happen (IE6, WinXP SP2, default settings, no other IE versions): a flexible, 'jello'-style layout with a minimum width of 720px, a maximum width of 1000px, and smooth changes when re-sizing the browser window (even when swi

Re: [css-d] Problem with fluid layout

2005-10-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Alex Robinson wrote: > At 18:58 -0400 23/10/05, Rick Clark wrote: >> I am having troubles creating a fluid layout. The left and right >> columns are fixed and the middle column will resize. I have seen >> several tutorials on using percentages for all three columns, but my >> layout has two fixed

RE: [css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI
Thanks for your reply, Chris. Those tabs are great. Unfortunately, it's not exactly what I need or at least I don't know how to use your tabs in the way I need. If you look at the nav here: http://webfx.eae.net/ you'll see that it sort of looks like buttons. I need to take that type of lo

[css-d] background color/color declarations - why?

2005-10-26 Thread Pringle, Ron
Hi all- I'm trying to understand exactly why the W3C CSS validator now spits out errors for instances where you do not declare a color on a property with a background-color declaration, or vice versa. For instance, I have a righthand column on my page that has a div with a background image in it.

Re: [css-d] AOL=IE on pc?

2005-10-26 Thread Bryce Fields
On 10/26/05, jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fI was uder the impression that AOL uses the native IE in the > system. Is that the case? > I dont believe that is the case 100%,... I thought that maybe you guys > could answer this for me in greater detail. According to the AOL Webmasters' Info w

Re: [css-d] Rounded tabs in IE

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
> >> Hi Tamara, > >> If you're OK with using a pair of spans within an anchor, this > >> article may help you: > >> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/scalable.asp > > > > That or make your image more flexible: > > http://icant.co.uk/articles/flexible-css-menu/ > > "More" flexible? I don't see "more

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Stuart Homfray
Al Sparber wrote: FWIW, I see this page just fine on 2 different machines (with and without SP2). But I'd like to know/understand why we're not all experiencing the same thing... I'll be honest - I've been following this thread with increasing interest! I don't why the emails from CSS-D are

Re: [css-d] ids for XHTML radio buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 10/26/05, David Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be off-topic, for which I apologize, but: In XHTML you're > supposed to refer to form elements using id rather than name. Suppose > I have a collection of radio buttons, though. Is it acceptable to > give them all the same ID and then

Re: [css-d] ids for XHTML radio buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> This may be off-topic, for which I apologize, but: In XHTML you're > supposed to refer to form elements using id rather than name. Suppose > I have a collection of radio buttons, though. Is it acceptable to > give them all the same ID and then refer to them as an array using > document.getElement

Re: [css-d] ids for XHTML radio buttons

2005-10-26 Thread Schalk
David As far as I know the way to handle radio buttons is to use a common name between all of them so that they are grouped together. The each radio button can have it's own id. The great thing about this set-up is that you can then associate a with a radio button. This immediately makes you

Re: [css-d] Rounded tabs in IE

2005-10-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Heilmann wrote: >> Hi Tamara, >> If you're OK with using a pair of spans within an anchor, this >> article may help you: >> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/scalable.asp > > That or make your image more flexible: > http://icant.co.uk/articles/flexible-css-menu/ "More" flexible? I don't

RE: [css-d] Having problem with nested layers and display problem in IE (of course)

2005-10-26 Thread Angela Trigg
Since I'm trying to be compliant, should I change my doctype to: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";> I just did to see if it made a difference below and now both are wacky, but am wondering if I should do it anyway and work a little more on getting

[css-d] AOL=IE on pc?

2005-10-26 Thread jeremy
So I have been getting reports that verious elements of this website I am working on appear "broken" and "off" when using AOL. I have been able to see that the site does look marginally different in AOL, but only over the shoulder of another user. I need to be able to check this out for myself.

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Al Sparber
- Original Message - From: "Philippe Wittenbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CSS-D" Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites On 26 Oct 2005, at 2:07 pm, Al Sparber wrote: Al Sparber wrote: This page: http://www.projectseven.com/cs

[css-d] Site check please - First Draft

2005-10-26 Thread Schalk
Greetings All Please review the following site: www.volume4.com/oxfordprice/ It is still in first draft form so some formatting will still need to be done. There are two pages that does currently render incorrectly. The faux column does not stretch the full height and so the forms overlap the

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 26 Oct 2005, at 2:07 pm, Al Sparber wrote: Al Sparber wrote: This page: http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm [...] I'm curious myself, too. It would be useful information and hopefully deemed on-topic. I'm having a hard time believing what a couple of folks have

[css-d] ids for XHTML radio buttons

2005-10-26 Thread David Feldman
This may be off-topic, for which I apologize, but: In XHTML you're supposed to refer to form elements using id rather than name. Suppose I have a collection of radio buttons, though. Is it acceptable to give them all the same ID and then refer to them as an array using document.getElementBy

Re: [css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Hi, > > I am trying to build a horizontal list menu (using an unordered list) and I > want to place it inside of a container along with other things such as a > header and a search form. Also, I'd like to make it flexible so that if a > user increases the font size, the navigation tabs enlarge

[css-d] Site check - esp. Mac & UNIX

2005-10-26 Thread Mark Batty
Hi all (Susan, this has the 'you are here' effect) I've been tidying up my code and added a 'you are here' effect; hopefully I've not broken anything. Would you be able to check it for me, especially on Mac and UNIX; I'd be interested on how it handles at different resolutions as well if anyone

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Michael Wilson
Al Sparber wrote: I honestly think your browser is not set up correctly. That's the only explanation. Yeah... the only explanation is that we (those of us who have seen the issue) are idiot n00bs. Of course your work is flawless... wtf were we thinking? I don't use IE for anything other th

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's completely relevant. You have to resize your browser window after the page loads to see that it's stuck in IE 6 sp 2. Then, if you reload the page at the new resolution, the javascript works and the layout snaps into place. But only on reload, no

[css-d] Tabs inside of containers

2005-10-26 Thread Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI
Hi, I am trying to build a horizontal list menu (using an unordered list) and I want to place it inside of a container along with other things such as a header and a search form. Also, I'd like to make it flexible so that if a user increases the font size, the navigation tabs enlarge with the f

RE: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Leszek
I must admit, I see it as fixed on IE6 as well. - Leszek http://leszek.swirski.co.uk > > I guess that's proof that most users never resize their windows. > > That's completely irrelevant. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/

Re: [css-d] Problem with fluid layout

2005-10-26 Thread Alex Robinson
At 18:58 -0400 23/10/05, Rick Clark wrote: I am having troubles creating a fluid layout. The left and right columns are fixed and the middle column will resize. I have seen several tutorials on using percentages for all three columns, but my layout has two fixed columns. You'll be wanting R

[css-d] Safari bordering a td that has NO style to it

2005-10-26 Thread Scott Haneda
Good morning everyone, hoping someone can debug this for me, I am stumped: At the top, a simple table, at the bottom the same table, with my data in it, as you can see, the last td with the colspan set to 4, shows a line at the top, when there is no td cla

Re: [css-d] CSS Validation

2005-10-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vicki Stebbins wrote: For me, I'll now include in my written estimate of a job, a clause which says something about 'warnings' in validation services just to cover all avenues. If you come up with a good text then let me know - off list, I guess. Clients are often worse than the validator abou

Re: [css-d] How to Learn About Cross-Browser Compatibility ?

2005-10-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Robin Whitman wrote: Now that my CSS page looks good in Firefox browser, what can I do about getting it to work in other browsers? ... ...getting Firefox in line isn't bad, for a start... Can someones suggest some tutorials or articles that can teach this subject? No complete and up-to-dat

[css-d] Still that Suckerfish

2005-10-26 Thread Arno @ Raketnet
Appreciative of the advises I got sofar I've (co-)decided that the Suckerfish is the best solution for my menu anyway. However, I haven't solved the problem yet. First it was so that the part of the menu that dropped down over the content was "visible", but not accessible, since it disappeared upo

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-26 Thread Jan Milz
One (maybe the most popular) famous css site is: http://www.csszengarden.com Greetz Jan __ Belt+Sund Grafikdesign Webdesign http://www.beltundsund.de/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/25/05, Al Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I guess that's proof that most users never resize their windows. > > That's completely irrelevant. > It's completely relevant. You have to resize your browser window after the page loads to s

Re: [css-d] IE quirk vs standard mode for Auto

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Hi all, > > I just had a question, I was under the impression that IE6 does not like > "margin:auto;", in any mode > > is it true? does this apply to both quirks mode and standards mode? I thought it did support it in standards mode. One single google search for it would have answered you that:

Re: [css-d] Rounded tabs in IE

2005-10-26 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Hi Tamara, > If you're OK with using a pair of spans within an anchor, this article may > help you: > http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/scalable.asp That or make your image more flexible: http://icant.co.uk/articles/flexible-css-menu/ -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writin

RE: [css-d] Mac Problem (site causes browser crash)

2005-10-26 Thread Shane Porter
> >Following a site check (thanks everyone), it transpires that the site: > > > >http://www.freshclickmedia.com/previews/endo/home.htm > > > >causes a browser crash on the Apple Mac (reported specifically on IE > >5.2.3, but I'm now concerned about other mac browsers.) > you have made extensive us

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