Lighten up a little, organize it, and make it readable-- or you'll put
I don't understand you comment: Lighten up a little
I think he means simply that your page is dark. Contrast your beige patterned
backgrounds (which look remarkably like my office wallpaper, btw) with his
solid white.
I am using this approach (rather than just change the registercolright
class) because each page where that class is used requires some
adjustment and I'd prefer, if possible, not to create a large number of
similar classes.
Then don't Apply multiple classes instead.
div
Thanks, Tim. Yes, you are quire right about the proliferation of classes,
and I did not know about applying a second class. This has been the
result of learn as I go and it seemed easier (at the time) to simply
copy a class and make a few adjustment.
We all learn as we go. Just some of us
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:46 AM
To: CSS Discuss
Subject: [css-d] Outlook 2007 and DL/DD tag
Hi all,
I'm setting up an HTML
And an inside page might be...?
p.tagline {font-size: 100% } /*source document title: solid bricks*/
h1{font-size: 125%} /*sub: solid colored bricks*/
h2 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid umber colored bricks*/
h3 {font-size: 150%}/*sub: solid burnt sienna colored bricks*/
h4 {font-size:
I don't know why that image is stretched vertically; it's well- behaved
on my local drive.
Because of height: 100%.
If you change that to height: auto; or take out the height property completely,
it behaves just fine.
But height 100% means Make this image 100% of the height of its parent
I've just noticed an unexpected behavior with text-indent, and I'm wondering if
it's a bug, or if I'm just misunderstanding the spec (my guess is the latter).
I have the following, for an FAQ:
dl class=qanda
dtWhat is the first question?/dt
dd
pThis is the first paragraph of a long
In my mind, this should then apply to the first line of text in the dd,
but it appears to apply to the first line of text in the p's... Why?
Nevermind, everyone. I figured it out... Text-indent is inherited. Adding a
dd p {text-indent: 0} gives me the expected behavior.
---Tim
Nevermind, everyone. I figured it out... Text-indent is inherited.
Adding a dd p {text-indent: 0} gives me the expected behavior.
Oh, no it doesn't... grr.
But using dd p + p as a selector works well.
---Tim
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The red
box *and* the document have nothing to do with the offset of that
box.
Not entirely true. Yes, the blue box is offset in relation to where it would
be without position. But where the blue box would be depends directly on
other elements (previous siblings and parents, i.e, the red
you don't need anything around the image or the paragraph...
.outer img {float:left;}
.outer p {float: right;}
If you want white space, you can apply margins, padding, borders, etc, just
like you would if they were a div. But you can apply them directly to the img
and p elements without
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To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Simple (I hope) styling question
I think there's
url(bg.gif)
That's looking at http://localhost/kcpage/css/bg.gif.
url(/images/bg.gif)
This one is trying http://localhost/images/bg.gif.
url(./images/bg.gif)
This one tries http://localhost/kcpage/css/images/bg.gif.
url(httPL//localhost/kcpage/images/bg.gif)
This one you've mistyped
In messing with it, if I modify the body tag in the html, then this
works:
body style=background-image: url(images/bg.gif);
When you include it here, the path is relative to the HTML page, so that works.
Since I include the css sheet in the same level, I would have thought
the CSS
p.imageBullets { background: url('Image_files/image003.gif') no-
repeat
top left; padding-left: 16px;}
Thanks. That is a start. But, since the image is a background, it does
not push the text over. Instead, the image is behind the text. Should
I just add nbsp; to the beginning of the
For instance, in the img tag, you are able to control the
width and the height of the image. How do you do this in the CSS?
For background images, you can't. You have to do it by opening the image file
and changing its size, and then saving it.
---Tim
I don't think inherit is a proper value for clear.
it is:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#flow-control
It's interesting though. This new value came in now that authors use
clear even less than before as they now contain floats more than
they clear them.
Does it do anything
The Problem:
--
A DropDownList rendered by ASP.Net is displayed correctly in IE8.
But, it appears as enlarged, boxed DropDownList in FireFox(Latest
version).
It happens only when this DropDownList is the First control on the
WebPage.
All other DropDownLists appearing as
I'm a bit late and maybe wet behind the ears, but would making the
container display: table; and the UL display: table-cell; work?
Perhaps with a spot of JavaScript to turn them into an HTML table for
poor old IE 7 and older?
I think there'd have to be a third element in there to set as
I have got over my fear of sending a ink to the site so you can see that
it's level 3, from the websites drop down that could be improved by
centering vertically.
http://blakeys.com/
/* this is the box that actually lays out the interior of level 2. It was hard
to find through all the
I'd like it to sit right in the middle
both vertically and horizontally without using padding or anything like
that because it's dynamically fed.
is there such a way using CSS?
As far as I know, not with anything with a dynamic height. You can do it with
javascript, but that's off-topic
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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:04 PM
To: Climis, Tim
Cc: Chris Blake; css discuss discuss
Subject: Re: [css-d] Can i vertically centre a UL?
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Climis, Tim tcli...@indiana.edu
I have vague memories of doing this because the percentage handled
a glitch in one browser or another.
There was an IE bug handling sizing in ems that the 100% rule fixed, as I
recall. Perhaps this one with text-resizing?
Does anyone have any idea about this? Can I truly not create a table
that is 100% the height of the browser window? I've tried adding a
min- height to the table too but it doesn't seem to make any
difference.
I'm confused... What are you trying to do?
You have height=100% set on your table.
Something like this perhaps?
h2+p {
}
But that affects p tags that fall AFTER h2's, not before, no?
Yes, that's correct. I don't think there's a way to do this without Javascript.
What about styling the h2 instead of the p? I don't know what your use case
is, but if, for example, you
span.drop {
line-height: .7em;
}
Your line-height is less than 1em. That means that it's smaller than the
current font size. If you set your line-height to 1 (unitless) or even 1.2,
then your letters aren't chopped off.
---Tim
Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure if I reply directly to your email here,
or not.
Usually you reply to list, so others can chime in.
Yes I did change that. But if you look at the change now (second blog
entry), why does it add more spacing above the letter Q,d despite my
padding: 3px?
I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom.
They're not really changing the DOM (at least not IMO). You can't add tags and
structure to the HTML with CSS - you can only change the value of text nodes
(and then, only by adding to them).
Just trying to understand why they are there.
So you
Can somebody clue me in to a CSS (or whatever) trick that forces a div
scroll instead of wrapping?
Perhaps
div {white-space: no-wrap}
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Can somebody clue me in to a CSS (or whatever) trick that forces a div
scroll instead of wrapping?
Perhaps
div {white-space: no-wrap}
Oops. That should be nowrap.
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In a comment on Gabrielle's blog posting a couple weeks ago about whether or
not animation belongs in CSS, I came up with a use case for CSS dropdown menus.
Basically, my idea was that you might want to make your menu drop down with a
wipe.
I finally got around to playing with that idea this
Promising, I think...
Near the bottom of the page he has a fairly recent example of a CSS3
transition slide-down...
http://www.gethifi.com/blog/nicer-navigation-with-css-transitions
That's pretty much the effect I'm going for (sans the opacity transition). But
a quick look at that code,
{float: right; width: 15em; margin: 1 1em 1em; padding: 0.25em;}
First, I don't understand width. It's not the width of my image; what is
it doing?
The width is the width of whatever element you're applying the CSS to. Could
be the image, but as Marcio pointed out, you didn't include the
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Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS3 animations considered harmful
tedd wrote:
At 9:19 PM -0400 8/10/10, David
Is there a good way to get a drop shadow on text using css?
You're using it.
I've got
something that seems to work in Safari, and in FireFox 3.6.8 on a mac,
but I think that's about it.
Actually, it works in Firefox 3+, Safari 3+, Chrome 4+, and Opera 10+, on all
platforms. Only IE
i'd be more than greatful for any kind of ctiticism.
It'd be nice if there was some kind of clue that there are links on the first
page. I don't know that most people will discover that a few random letters
produce hover effects.
---Tim
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Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
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On
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To: Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
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Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
David
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boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Claude Needham
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 12:24 PM
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Subject: [css-d] Is this even possible with blockquote?
On the following page I have a
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boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Stuart King
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:51 AM
To: css discuss
Subject: [css-d] floating right class not going all the way to the right
Hi CSS-Der's:
I believe the url in the original post leads us to the only sample for the
page.
http://ecoitsf.com/test.html
Ah. Missed that. And even though the method used is display: inline,
overflow: hidden still appears to be the solution. When I tested it out (on
either the div or the ul) it
Can you point to a page that demonstrates the sticky footer working?
I'm not seeing it on the url given.
The image with the browser icons is using it on that page.
---Tim
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From: Claude Needham [mailto:gxx...@gmail.com]
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Climis, Tim tcli...@indiana.edu
wrote:
The image with the browser icons is using it on that page.
When looking at http://ryanfait.com/sticky-footer/ I don't see a sticky
just finished to do these:
http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/06/tests-on-html5-video-and-
css.html
Just FYI, Chrome Dev branch (6.0.437.3) autoplayed every one of those videos,
so it appears that the Webkit nightlies must have support.
---Tim
How do I place an image on top of another image?
Umm. Can we have an example of what you want? There are many options here,
and depending on the effect you're looking for, some may or may not work. For
example: do you want the bottom image to be visible under the top image
(translucent)?
snip a bunch of HTML
Can you send us a link to your live page instead of all this code? It's a lot
easier to debug things that way.
If not, we can try and work with what we've got, but a link is always more
helpful.
---Tim
Matthew P. Johnson wrote:
Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer?
My computer has it. I think it's included with MS Office - because I've only
installed a few other fonts and that wasn't one of them. Which means that a
pretty fair number of people have it, probably.
(I
so, is the remedy to ammend the code on that page, or is a 1279 pixel wide
image just plain ridiculous?
In marsB.css, line 27
Delete the width: 600px; (or change to min-width: 600px).
That will let the paragraph expand to fit your image, which will in turn make
the page expand to fit the
Hi everyone
I have a mobile device version of a web based product that has a div which
appears across the top of the page with a menu in it. Currently, if the user
clicks on a hyperlink in a page which goes to a bookmark in that or another
page, the bookmark by default appears at the top
display: block.
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#dis-pos-flo
That table is about computed value, what I quoted was related to a
declaration (at least that's the way I read it):
In my rule, the float is styled with display:inline and I expect it to be
a flow Root.
Is the above
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[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Bob Meetin
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:21 AM
To: CSS-D
Subject: [css-d] roots tree
I have a task to create a roots type family tree.
Recommendations please?
When I go to W3C and get the CSS specs, I can only get 1, 2.1 and 3. What
happened to 2? Is there an alternate source?
(The reason here is that I'm using Coldfusion's PDF creation, which supports
CSS1 and CSS2 and page-break-after is in the list of supported properties,
but always doesn't
What happened to 2?
Nevermind. I found it. A link was buried in the 2.1 references.
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411/
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See *previous versions:*
Previous versions:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-CSS2-20090423
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411
Yeah, I kept clicking on the top one and after getting 5 or 6 versions of the
2.1 spec, I gave up.
But it was especially confusing since
There is no flash.
Of course there is. The Youtube video is flash.
Direct from your page:
embed src=http://www.youtube.com/v/l26of6Qm9CUamp;hl=en_USamp;fs=1amp;;
type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowscriptaccess=always
allowfullscreen=true width=410 height=280
(Note the
If I instead set a height on the same div, and then set margin: auto 0; it
does not center horizontally.
I'm going to assume that you really meant vertically.
Why? why why why?
Because the definition of auto states that if auto is the same for
margin-left and margin-right, then they will be
Couldn't you technically declare your own font size in px and avoid this
issue of browser default font size? I am not saying it's a good idea to use
px based fonts, but it is doable and with the zoom functionality of newer
browsers you'd avoid breaking layouts.
It depends on whether or not
I am using firefox 3.6. When I set the zoom option to zoom text only i can
increase all fonts with command + or command - (i am on a mac so substitute
control for PC)
But, changing the default font size in the browser settings does not
increase or decrease fonts that have been set in
I just want to make a div with css applied to it to get a background
colour appear at 50%. Any ideas?
What's happening is that everything has an opacity of 50%. You can't apply it
to just the background, afaik, but you can fake it.
Set the opacity to 50% on the parent, like you've got, and
Hi all, I wanted to get some collective input on how you all handle updating
styles that are cached.
Double clicking the refresh button will usually do the trick. There's also
private browsing mode, which will keep things from caching.
---Tim
Right, I'm speaking more for the site users, how they can get updated styles
with as minimal disturbance as possible. Eg, a site visitor doesn't know
necessarily when you have pushed some css for design changes. It will look
broken for them.
Oh. That's a far more interesting problem that I
I'm not familiar with the '8 div flexy box'. Could someone provide a URI?
That's not it's official name, and I'm not sure what is, but you can see an
example I did a few weeks ago here: http://sunapsis.iu.edu/
Essentially, you have a relatively positioned content box (my #container), and
then
Is Safari on windows and safari on Mac same? will my web page will look
similar in them?
Also does FF on PC and on Mac renders the web page UI in same way?
I can't say yes because it's not entirely true, so the answer is Mostly.
Pages look the same across browsers and operating systems, as
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[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Lineberger, Scott
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:21 PM
To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org'
Subject: [css-d] More new to css questions
Ok,
I am beginning to warm up to
Those Microsoft filters only work when the element they are applied to
has layout.[1] Try adding zoom: 1; to the ruleset for the filter...
I understood 'zoom' to be a Microsoft proprietary CSS property which does not
validate. I would set a height or width value instead which achieves the
Experiment with left/center/right alignments of the legend headings and the
buttons;
Add a background image to each form within the table.
Can it be done?
Yes.
I'm presuming that you want each form to be different, right? So you need to
give each one a way to select it. Either a class or
and li don't need display: inline,
because display default value for li is inline.
No it isn't! The default display for li is list-item. Which is closer to
block than it is to inline. If it were inline, your lists would look like:
1. Thing one 2. Thing two 3. Thing three
Instead of:
1.
1. Is it considered proper to put the reply after the quote? I personally
much prefer the reply first. If I'm reading a thread, I have the quote
already in mind, and like it when I don't have to manually scroll down to see
the reply. But if manners suggest quote first, I can do that.
I'd like to make a:hover maroon and underlined, I tried it in the way I wrote
it below but it doesn't work, I'd appreciate it if you have any tips...
a:hover
{color:Maroon;}
a:hover
{text-decoration: underline;}
That should do it. Or for efficiency:
a:hover
I have a break with a clear equals all below the outer div.
Clear: all is not a valid value. Are you looking for clear: both?
---Tim
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And if anyone knows the reason why I have the other problem with my
thumbnail_grid div's position, please let me know! That's on this
#thumbnail_grid {
position: relative;
float: left;
overflow: hidden;
/* border: 1px solid red; */
width: 100%;
}
Claude Needham already answered that one, but
100%px isn't valid, unless my programming mind is tying to make too much
sense.
I think that's the problem... His template is putting in 'px' even though he
doesn't want one. And he wants to have a width of 100% in spite of it.
Stylesheets should never overwrite a style defined in the
Any clues?
Default top and bottom margins of 1em on H1 elements? It looks like it's top
aligning to me in Firefox, IE8, and Chrome. The only space I see is the margin
on the H1 which you didn't cancel out.
---Tim
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Thus far I have looked at Doctors page in 6 browsers on 2 different operating
systems.
Just pointing out that the browser in question is in the subject (i.e. Firefox
2) I don't happen to have a copy so I can't help, but it should save some
other people some time.
---Tim
The other thing i missed was the need to use double colons, like ::before - I
tried only ':before'. What's the reason?
:before is CSS2. ::before is CSS3.
In CSS3, double colons go before pseudo-elements (first-line, first-letter,
before, after), while single colons go before pseudo-classes
My issue is that that, while the drop down menu appears when hovering over
top level list item, when the user moves OFF of that list item to move into
the drop down sublist, the sublist disappears.
My immediate guess, without getting to see the page, is that you need to add a
sublist:hover
What is the general consensus with regards to CSS validation? I'm really
inclined to leave the opacity effect in.
Validation of CSS is great for finding misspelled properties, bad values,
missing semi-colons, etc, but hacks, proprietary properties, and CSS 3 stuff is
fine (or even
Take a look at this page:
http://www.indiana.edu/~intlserv/orientation/arrival_housing.php, and scroll
down to the cab company list.
In Firefox 3.6, the bullets appear correctly. However, that's the only place
it's right. The problem, I believe, is that I've floated the first thing in
the
Any help and/or suggestions are GREATLY appreciated
I have discovered that the margin-right on #aelbibDisplayLayout is causing
this. If you set that margin to 0 (instead of 200px) that fixes it. I have no
idea why though.]
Also, it appears that you have two identical selectors in your CSS
Trying to center bottom navigation menu in footer of webpage.
There are lots of centering methods, most of which depend on the particular
page structure. A link would be really helpful.
---Tim
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Unfortunately, I am having to work off my local drive with no access to
upload anything at this point. New job, working with little resources at this
point while waiting for server access and more software. Hoping things will
be worked out next week.
Bummer. Well, shots in the dark I
In HTML you can put nbsp;nbsp; plus an ordinary space after
each sentence, but that's awfully presentational markup.
Actually, that would be three spaces. Two would be nbsp; .
---Tim
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On-topically: the only way to emulate double spaces with CSS which I can
think of would be to wrap every sentence in a span class=sentence and
style that with a 2em right padding.
Any other?
I think 2em right padding would be the wrong way to do it. Em is the *height*
of a character, not
what I'm trying to do is decrease the width to match that of my other two
boxes
You're not setting a width anywhere. If you want to make the container the
same width as the others, you need to either specify a width or margins on
#rp_frame.
But also, you have 4 boxes in the column on that
I'm not sure why this isn't working. It's fine in all our standard-compliant
friends, but IE 6/7 won't play nice. The h3s (for Date, Time, etc) are floated
left, but the following paragraphs aren't floating up.
Any insight is appreciated.
Oh, almost forgot a link!
Hmmm... not sure I've come up against this specific problem before, but a
'clear' fix to ensure the list items are containing the headings and
paragraphs does the trick:
.event_details li { overflow: hidden; }
Indeed it does! That makes a certain amount of crazy sense, but I wouldn't
Take a look at your page with the Firebug extension for Firefox, and you'll see
what's up. What you think is mainContentPad and what actually is, are two
entirely different things.
Fixing it will take some mark up changes, which means that I can't just test it
quite as easily as CSS. But I
Alas, the issue is that while the LIs are all the same height, the
actual anchor tags are only as high as the text. I'd like it so that
all of the anchor tags (as well as the LIs) are all the same height so
that each link has the same size target to click on.
Is that doable with just CSS?
I hope that someone will have a suggestion for me.
Brace yourself...
I actually think that this could be argued to be a legitimate use of tables to
display tabular data. It's certainly not tabular data in the tradition
spreadsheet sense, but it is data that corresponds to other data arranged
There's always the Acid 2 test. It looks the same in all the major browsers
now, but in IE6 and 7 it's a pretty stellar disaster.
The other thing to check is if MS makes the Compatibility View list public.
If it does, that would give you a list of sites that look good in IE7 that
don't look
This may be a crazy suggestion, but in my mind a definition list (dl,
dt, dd) wouldn't be out of the question
You'd either have to avoid paragraph tags, etc, or damn the standards.
I had the same thought, but decided not to damn the standards. So I suggested
the paragraph solution instead.
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[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of
e...@copywritecolombia.com
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:00 PM
To: css-d
Subject: [css-d] Navigation
The top navigation should be right up against the top of the
Thanks Troy and Tim, the navigation is now up against the top of the page,
but now it is on the wrong side. I have floated both the navigation and
logo left but it is showing the logo on the right not on the left-why is
that?:
http://www.copywritecolombia.com/mediabuying.htm
You missed my
I took Alan's sample and expanded on it to provide a horizontal line. I
haven't extensively tested it but it works well for me on FF3.5.
It does look good in FF3.5. But it doesn't look nearly as nice in any other
browser. The spacing between the numbers and the bar is too big in everything
However, in IE6 (haven't tried ealier versions), the right sidebar
(localsidebarpanel) is off in never land and its color is completely
wrong and can't be changed (weird!). I tested with IE 7 and 8 based on
output from http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ and the layout is even
worse, and still same
Not sure yet what the fix is. Or, if you know of a free CSS
exploration tool *for IE* like the (awesome!) javascript console that
comes with Chrome, I could try using such a tool to figure it out.
Well, there's the IE Developer toolbar. It's only good for IE7 (although IE8
comes with it built
A reply that went to me, but probably should have gone to the entire list, or
at least the OP...
[my lengthy reply on semantic markup]
Another reason is that usability-wise, only something that is a link is
supposed to be underlined on the web. For a bibliographic reference, perhaps
Adventuring on the EM land surely deserves quite of organization on the
font side of things. I will pay better attention on the future (so I
believe).
Yes it does, sort of. Font size shouldn't vary too much on a page though.
tons of different font sizes tend to make things messy and hard to
After inserting the h1 I find I cannot continue with my second list item as
2; the list starts over at 1. Can I do that using CSS? I've got
the other sub-items to style correctly using CSS, so this is my only problem.
There's two answers:
There is the start attribute of ol (ol start=2) which
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