Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Source - Richard wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > revcoal wrote: > > >>Basically, how far can one push paranoia? Interestingly, the only list > >>where the post even got a response was this one > > > >Perhaps because generally this list contains members who are more astute > >than

Re: [CTRL] AOL Conspiracy?

1999-02-09 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 8 Feb 99, , Source wrote: > Yes but dear SnoOwl, Christianity (and all religions for that matter) have > to be the biggest conspiracy ever. That IS relevent to this list. Yes, but dear Richard, we've already been there, done thatand it was a total waste of time for all c

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On

1999-02-09 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 7 Feb 99, , nurev wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Kris Millegan wrote: > > > > -- > > > > Subject: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On > > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:10:46 EST > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 9 Feb 99, , Brown, wrote: > You see, it's this type of slow-wittedness that keeps this > discussion from reaching a logical end. The fact that you cannot grasp the > point I was trying to make is painfully evident in your cheap shot at me. > Let me try to explain this

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread Brown, Jeremy
-Caveat Lector- I think that if someone goes out and puts a needle on a seat or anything similar, they already had the inclination to do so. Movies, e-mails, TV, what have you are not responsible for the actions of crazy people. Perhaps they sometimes play a role in their behavior, like John Hin

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant,archeologists]

1999-02-09 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- wrote: >It may also be that the "Barbarians" were treated fairly well by the > Romans (probably because they were not that strong in the area). So they > traded and got along as best as could be. Probably enjoyed the benefits > of association with people with a higher techn

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread kimberly smith
-Caveat Lector- John Szocik wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > True enough! However, if some sicko didn't think ofthis before, the idea is > now out there for some sick bastard to go ahead and try it out. > People should really think before they dream-up crap like this and then put it > on the net.

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread John Szocik
-Caveat Lector- True enough! However, if some sicko didn't think ofthis before, the idea is now out there for some sick bastard to go ahead and try it out. People should really think before they dream-up crap like this and then put it on the net. JOHN DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is

[CTRL] test

1999-02-09 Thread Kevin
-Caveat Lector- test DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fr

[CTRL] Is this why OBE misses out the facts?

1999-02-09 Thread Taylor, John (JH)
-Caveat Lector- From; How the mind works - S Pinker? In a large society with writing and institutionalized science, the cost of an exponential number of' tests is repaid by the benefit of the resulting laws to a large number of people. That is why taxpayers are willing to fund scientific rese

[CTRL] Is this why OBE misses out the facts?

1999-02-09 Thread Taylor, John (JH)
-Caveat Lector- In a large society with writing and institutionalized science, the cost of an exponential number of' tests is repaid by the benefit of the resulting laws to a large number of people. That is why taxpayers are willing to fund scientific research. But for the provincial interests

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News Monday #1]

1999-02-09 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 2/8/99 11:19:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > : Does your religion encourage pillaging, rape, mayhem, murder? Is it fun? >> > > It seems they all do at one time or another, but aren't Hi

[CTRL] It's Been Great

1999-02-09 Thread Eric Stewart
-Caveat Lector- Regretfully, I am forced to sign off of this list and, believe me, it has been a difficult decision. I need to streamline and handle less information as I already moderate three lists. So if any of you would like to receive invites to any of them, contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Brown, Jeremy
-Caveat Lector- After reading your post, I am now thoroughly convinced that you are a bona fide mentalcase. You mention that I failed to properly word what I wrote. Perhaps it is you who should admit that you failed to understand what I wrote! The debate was about the president's infidelity, an

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Brown, Jeremy wrote: >Oh my GOD! Tell me you aren't really this dense! How many times do I have to >explain this? OK, let's do this piece by piece. First up, I assume you are >asking a question with that first sentence. However, since you don't seem to >know how to use a question

Re: [CTRL] re-post Hopsicker's Brave New World

1999-02-09 Thread Samatha 'Smith'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-09 10:47:36 EST, you write: > The central character and focus of the film is deceased Louisiana > pilot and businessman, Barry Seal, who operated a flying service > heavily connected to Mena. Hopsicker demonstrates Barry Seal was > murdered with po

Re: [CTRL] Re-post Bill and Hill=Marxists - HA!

1999-02-09 Thread Lucio Benedetto
-Caveat Lector- The Clintons' Marxists? Now that's a laugh. Clinton's policies of a classic right-wing strong man, straight out of South America. If you liked Evita and weep for Pinochet, you'll love the Clintons' version of America. Of course, if by Marxists you mean Chinese or Soviet-style

[CTRL] [3] STAR FIRE - The Gold of the Gods

1999-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/starfire3.html - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/starfire3.html">Star Fire Part 3 - - STAR FIRE - The Gold of the Gods Once the Anunnaki departed Sumeria, Master Craftsmen developed a substitute

[CTRL] Kidding Gullible Believers - The Truth behind the "KGB UFO Files"

1999-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.parascope.com/index.htm http://www.parascope.com/index.htm">ParaScope: Something Strange is Happening! - Kidding Gullible Believers - The Truth behind the "KGB UFO Files" by Antonio Huneeus FATE Magazine, January 1999 Reprinted by permission Hollywood loves s

[CTRL] Re-post Bill and Hill=Marxists

1999-02-09 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 98-10-06 12:09:51 EDT, you write: << Source. www.devvy.com/death_list.html#SOFC Millions of words have been written about these two people. Bill Clinton didn't acquire the nickname "Slick" from all his years in politics down in Arkansas without good reas

[CTRL] OEN 2/9/99

1999-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe - Tiptoeing Through the Tulips The Age of the Day Trader Now don't you worry your little head about those Internet stocks The rise in the value of internet stocks has been

[CTRL] Re-post American Concentration Camps Exist

1999-02-09 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 98-03-04 05:18:48 EST, you write: << www.thewinds.org/archive/government/camp9-97.html CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW In a revealing admission the Director of Resource Management for the U.S. Army confirmed the validity of a memorandum rela

[CTRL] re-post Hopsicker's Brave New World

1999-02-09 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 97-09-13 18:22:04 EDT, you write: << Daniel Hopsicker's Brave New World A review of "The Secret Heartbeat of America" by Allen Comstock September 13, 1997 Daniel Hopsicker's Brave New World by Allen Comstock Daniel Hopsicker's new film, "The Secret Hear

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Brown, Jeremy
-Caveat Lector- So what, Mr.Brown, is the above statement meant to mean. My so called 'cheap shot' was at your naivety and obvious lack of experience in life if you believe that the things you listed are abnormal!! Oh my GOD! Tell me you aren't really this dense!

[CTRL] Fwd: WND Another Chinese Strategic Coup

1999-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990209_xcsof_another_ch.shtml COSTIND, a Chinese Army unit known for its successful penetration of the Clinton White House, has scored another big success. In 1997, PLA General and Political Commissar of COSTIND, Ge Hunbiao, quietly signed a treat

[CTRL] Fwd: BioWar on The People

1999-02-09 Thread Kris Millegan
With respect to the question of the nature of widespread reports of jets (many identified as U.S. Air Force) that are spraying something that dozens of people around the nation claim makes them and their communities sick, the following testimony of Professor Leonard A. Cole is most relevant an

[CTRL] Thinking

1999-02-09 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 98-02-08 19:26:35 EST, you write: << It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then to loosen up. Inevitably though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker. I began to think alone - "to relax

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Brown, Jeremy wrote: > -Caveat Lector- >" Have to agree with you there Pru. I don't know about JBrown, but >where i >> come from Oral sex and mutual masturbation is not exactly Bestiality or >> Incest!!" >> >You see, it's this type of slow-wittedness that keeps th

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Clinton's "African Renaissance"?

1999-02-09 Thread Taylor, John (JH)
-Caveat Lector- Savimbi, a multi-lingual PhD, was, I discovered, one of Africa's most intelligent, impressive, capable leaders, and, notably, the only one who ever is one time. But he was shunned by the US, which was content to deal with the communoist regime so long as it suplied oil. Sust

[CTRL] Independent Counsel Law And The Washington Establishment

1999-02-09 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Re: Sam Dash and the Independent Counsel The Wash Post 2/9/99 featured an article about opposition by the ABA and others to reauthorzation of the Independent Counsel Act. Without getting into the merits of that argument, Dash's remarks hit the nail on the head. When the politi

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Brown, Jeremy
-Caveat Lector- " Have to agree with you there Pru. I don't know about JBrown, but where i > come from Oral sex and mutual masturbation is not exactly Bestiality or > Incest!!" > You see, it's this type of slow-wittedness that keeps this discussion from reaching a logical end. Th

[CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Samatha 'Smith'
In a message dated 99-02-08 14:18:16 EST, you write: > You say that turnabout is > fair play, but how is bashing a sick old man who has nothing to do with > Clinton fair play? I would say that in this instance a proper case of > turnabout would be in the form of attacks on Ken Starr. > > J

[CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] Fw: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: MSNBC's "New" Lineup: Same...

1999-02-09 Thread Samatha 'Smith'
In a message dated 99-02-08 16:04:26 EST, you write: > In the Nixon case, Gerald Ford was his replacement and he was not > elected even as vice-president. I don't remember this being an issue. My > understanding is that if Gore becomes president a new vice-president > would be appointed. In

[CTRL] NYT: Experts Find No Arms Chemicals at Bombed Sudan Plant

1999-02-09 Thread Lucio Benedetto
-Caveat Lector- NY Times Online http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/africa/020999sudan-plant.html February 9, 1999 Experts Find No Arms Chemicals at Bombed Sudan Plant By JAMES RISEN and DAVID JOHNSTON WASHINGTON -- Chemists who examined soil, sludge and debris samples from a Sudanese pharmac

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread 1lls0081
-Caveat Lector- Source - Richard wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > > >In a message dated 2/8/99 4:19:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > ><< somewhat baffling. Allow me to explain. Clinton has engaged in oral > sex, > > mut

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- revcoal wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Source - Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>You probably believe the organ-harvesting story, the 'you'll be killed >>if you flash your headlights' story, the 'send a card to this sick kid' >>>story, the 'Disney and Micros

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 11:26:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Unlike most politicians, it may actually be true that he had no recollection. >> And it may not. We haven't actually had a report of his condition from anyone but the family and close fri

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 10:35:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Especially since it's been documented that on at least two occasions, he couldn't put aside his sexual appetite long enough to conduct the business the public elected him to do and for wh

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 10:21:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << No, but it IS sexual harassment in the workplace... >> No June it is not. I don't care how they define sexual harassment these days. I've experience it, and I know how it makes you feel.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fu*k That!

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 9:32:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << ``Mr. Boomer's words were without any socially redeeming quality whatsoever,'' Yenior wrote. ``The First Amendment suffers no damage here by taking a backseat to the compelling interest in

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Source - Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>You probably believe the organ-harvesting story, the 'you'll be killed >if you flash your headlights' story, the 'send a card to this sick kid' >>story, the 'Disney and Microsoft are giving free trips to Disneyland

Re: [CTRL] Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant,archeologists argue

1999-02-09 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> was it Gurdyeff who said that if we can survive we must 'hate what we >>love and love what we hate' sounds like Tavistock style social >>engineering [IMO] nice bit of disorientation before we get repatterned

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's interesting that so many have argued that Clinton should not be >impeached just because he committed a couple of felonies, but you can >suggest that Reagan should have because he had a poor memory. Indeed

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bush for Prez (#43,567,852)

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 9:28:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << ``He has his own network and he inherits the network of his dad,'' said Guy Molinari, the Staten Island borough president and a former congressman. ``He represents our best opportunity fo

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >In a message dated 2/8/99 4:19:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< somewhat baffling. Allow me to explain. Clinton has engaged in oral sex, > mutual masturbation, phone sex, proposed sodomy and used a cigar as

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 4:19:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << somewhat baffling. Allow me to explain. Clinton has engaged in oral sex, mutual masturbation, phone sex, proposed sodomy and used a cigar as a dildo. All with a woman half his age and not

[CTRL] A Man & His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 2:18:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << ? I would say that in this instance a proper case of turnabout would be in the form of attacks on Ken Starr. >> You're right, and I just loved the segment on 60 minutes last evening. Se

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- revcoal wrote: >>Basically, how far can one push paranoia? Interestingly, the only list >>where the post even got a response was this one > >Perhaps because generally this list contains members who are more astute >than on other lists, and recognize obvious hoaxes when they see

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Edward Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One more time, my friend, and this time clearly: I sent the post to >stumulate conversation. And we responded by telling you it's a well-known hoax...what's to 'converse' about it? The only discussion on such things

Re: [CTRL] List Participation

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- STOP IT! Teo One Thousand wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >In a message dated 2/8/99 8:58:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: > ><< Not true. The only time I will resort to name calling is if it is resorted >to > > by others first and I never want to stifle "

Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

1999-02-09 Thread Source - Richard
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Edward Britton wrote: >>This was sent to me, and I know it is not impossible. When I was a young >>girl, they were doing similar things with needles, only it was to drug the >>girls and take them away for prostitution

Re: [CTRL] Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant,archeologists argue

1999-02-09 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > At 12:17 AM 2/9/99 EST, you wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > > >Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant, archeologists argue > > We've had 'NICE' Men-In-Black, Bad greymen in Independence 'Gray', > nice barbarians, nasty scotsmen ... e

[CTRL] I-Net Regulation

1999-02-09 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- A little something about the I-Net debate. This is the lead-in page; the areas shown below with the dots/bullets before the text are embedded links (clickable at the site). >From Policy.CoM http://www.policy.com/issuewk/1999/0208_56/index.html Issue of the Week Regulating

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > -Original Message- > From: Howard R. Davis III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> Remember the Iran Contra and several other investigations of propriety > >> and lies: > >> "Senator, I have NO recollection." > > > >Unlike most politic

[CTRL] Don't Quote: Dowd

1999-02-09 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/features/99/02/04/DON_T_QUOTE_ME.html The Boston Phoenix February 4 - 11, 1999 Immaterial girl Deconstructing the mean-spirited nihilism of Maureen Dowd Don't Quote Me by Dan Kennedy Maureen Down isn't the worst newspaper columni

[CTRL] The Tapes & the Tales

1999-02-09 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- >From NY Daily News TV Misses Out on Ex-Intern's Manhandling of House Team WASHINGTON onica Lewinsky made her international television debut as a star witness yesterday, but House impeachment prosecutors left her best scenes on the cutting room floor. Lewinsky on the hot sea

Re: [CTRL] List Participation

1999-02-09 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 8:58:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Not true. The only time I will resort to name calling is if it is resorted to > by others first and I never want to stifle "honest debate". Jim: Nope, this is not supported by any post

Re: [CTRL] List Participation

1999-02-09 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 8:58:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Jim: I offer you Samantha's response to you. I felt the same way. By the way, this is the second time you've mentioned Holocaust denials and nazi propaganda in response to my posts.

Re: [CTRL] Tomorrow Snores About Today (fwd)

1999-02-09 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/8/99 6:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Conspiracy Nation is not going away tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow. But it is going away. In the meantime, there will still be reports. But one day, the reports will stop. >>

Re: [CTRL] Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant, archeologists argue

1999-02-09 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- At 12:17 AM 2/9/99 EST, you wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant, archeologists argue We've had 'NICE' Men-In-Black, Bad greymen in Independence 'Gray', nice barbarians, nasty scotsmen ... etc etc was it Gurdyeff who said that if we can survive we m

Re: [CTRL] Why the Media loves to hate Iraq...

1999-02-09 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Eric Stewart wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Attention Iraq activists and researchers: > > The article below is an interesting look into the world of Public > Relations (PR), the mainstream media, and the manufacture of America's > blood lust for Iraq. The article is taken from t

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Howard R. Davis III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Remember the Iran Contra and several other investigations of propriety >> and lies: >> "Senator, I have NO recollection." > >Unlike most politicians, it may actually be true that he had no >recollectio

Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

1999-02-09 Thread 1lls0081
-Caveat Lector- Samatha 'Smith' wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-02-07 19:00:57 EST, you write: > > > With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous 15-year old girl. > > > > "And that, your honor, is how the girl ended up in my room so help me > > God or my name is not Willia

[CTRL] Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant, archeologists argue

1999-02-09 Thread Carl Amedio
-Caveat Lector- Germanic 'barbarians' likely pleasant, archeologists argue By WILLIAM J. KOLE AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (February 8, 1999 2:03 p.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - Can there be such a thing as nice barbarians? In pre-medieval Holland, at least, they appear to have been the perfe