[CTRL] Over Here?
-Caveat Lector- From TheNewAustralian http://www.newaus.com.au/us135china.html Return to The New Australian It couldn't happen here, could it? By *Larry Elgin No. 135, 27 Sept. - 4 Oct. 1999 Not too long ago, on 28 July, 1999, an interagency Panamanian police force seized a cache of heavy weapons at a waterfront home located just minutes in driving time from the Canal on the Atlantic side. The haul included 30 assault rifles, including G-3s, M-16s and FALs, a couple of rocket launchers, a 7.62 caliber machine gun (PKM) with 106 boxes of ammo containing 700 rounds each, a submachine gun, a couple of Chinese grenade launchers, with grenades, and some flares and scopes. The home was the property of a Panamanian originally from Italy. A combination of Panamanian police groups had had their eye on it. The brother of the owner is a high officer in a wharf group that operates the Colon Port terminal which not too long ago was cited by Panamanian legislator Miguel Bush as a conduit for arms traffic. Presumably, the account in El Panama America by Enrique Watts Rios said, the arms came into Panama from Colombia, declining to reveal more about the police sources of this particular information. This is a confluence of events that could alarm an American observer if he were to take seriously the warning constantly given, in his Panama Canal testimony and elsewhere, by U.S. Defense American Victory Honorary Chairman, Admiral Tom Moorer, that we must assess our strategic situation, not by what a potential strategic foe signals by way of intentions, but rather by what it has the capacity to do should it so choose. Thus, a seemingly minor incident of this sort, but one which demonstrates sufficient armament in place to enable the destruction and crippling of the Panama Canal, perhaps by something so simple as a ride in a cigarette boat, when coupled with overtones of high level Panamanian ties to communist Chinese dominated entities, Colombia with its drug lords and perhaps even other illicit ties, is cause for closer scrutiny. As Admiral Moorer has pointed out, we must be concerned with a potential foes capabilities, not his presumed intentions to use them or not. The fact that Fidel Castro has personally assured Bill Clinton that the communists are not involved with the narcotrafficantes, for example, is not reassuring from a strategic perspective. Quite the opposite, it should increase our interest in determining whether there is an alliance of convenience between the communists of China (who have dramatically increased their presence in Castros Cuba as well as in Panama) and the drug lords, or whether one is in the offing, with the Colombian FALN, for example, as a conduit of the cooperation. It is not just that surely Fidels word is as good as Bills. A connection between Chinese communist strategic intentions and the ever more threatening presence of heavy arms with Colombian connections in the Canal area is sufficiently alarming as an immediate possibility, given the abject failure of our "war" on drugs, that it should not readily be dismissed as sheer coincidence. Instead of heightened curiosity and examination of the possibility, however, we see the usual stonewalling, blithe assurances of irrelevance and determination to see that this important question is not examined. After all, we havent even been able to get assurances in this administration that the White House itself is a drug free zone, and there is every sign that from its beginning efforts were made at the highest levels to assure that it was not. Yet anyone who has ever dealt with the narcotics problem knows that even so-called "leisure" drug usage is a target for penetration and control by opposing forces. Should such penetration and control not only involve the drug traffickers themselves, who are now sufficiently wealthy to exceed the gross national product of some of the Latin American nations they plague, but also the communist Chinese in concert with Fidel Castro, then the problem of an irreversible compromise of national security becomes quite immediate. For the drug lords already have such power, not only in Columbia but also in Mexico, and, under the PRD, in Panama itself, (combined with their resurgence in Peru, their power in Ecuador and the other anti-democratic trends in the area under this administration) that, should they have such an alliance, (even one of convenience,) they thereby become a strategic threat as much as communist China itself, albeit a proxy one, able to threaten commerce and shipping and make military intervention, such as is presently talked of in Colombia as a possibility, highly costly and marginally effective. We had best be careful not to get ourselves into a situation where we are attempting to project military force far from our shores against not one but two opponents who have or may have penetrated the present presidency
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- At 10:35 PM 9-26-1999 +1200, Peter wrote: OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going?? The Illuminati are collecting all the world's available gold for delivery -- in 2003 -- to the Anunnaki Serpent masters on Nibiru, the 3400 year eliptical orbit '12th planet'. But you knew that. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Global Internet Censorship Plans (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PRIVACY Forum) URL: http://www.vortex.com/privacy/ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Sep 99 Subj: PRIVACY Forum Digest V08 #13 excerpt: Date:Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:36:36 -0400 From:Monty Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACLU Joins International Protest Against Global Internet Censorship Plans Excerpt from ACLU News -- 09-10-99 ACLU Joins International Protest Against Global Internet Censorship Plans FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, September 9, 1999 MUNICH, GERMANY -- The American Civil Liberties Union today joined rights groups from around the world in denouncing a proposed international Internet rating system that could provide governments with a blueprint for censorship. In a joint statement issued at an Internet policy conference here today, members of the Global Internet Liberty Campaign (GILC) -- including the ACLU and other prominent defenders of cyberliberties -- said the so-called voluntary ratings system may actually facilitate governmental restrictions on Internet expression. The three-day "Internet Content Summit," organized by the Bertelsmann Foundation, a nonprofit social policy group based in Germany, has brought together some 300 Internet and computer industry executives and experts in the fields of technology, law and government to discuss ways to control illegal or potentially harmful material online without resorting to government regulation. But after analyzing an advance copy of the Bertelsmann recommendations, which will be issued formally on Friday, GILC said that censorship is a foregone conclusion. "This approach merely shifts the focus of governmental censorship initiatives from direct prohibition of speech to mandating the use of existing ratings and blocking technologies," the GILC members said in their statement. Speaking from the conference, Barry Steinhardt, Associate Director of the ACLU and a co-founder of GILC, said that much of the Bertelsmann plan was prophesied in a 1997 ACLU report http://www.aclu.org/issues/cyber/burning.html warning of the free speech dangers in various ratings plans then being proposed by U.S. industry groups. "We said it then, we say it now and we'll keep saying it even after software programs try to block us: proposals like this will transform the Internet from a true marketplace of ideas into just another mainstream, lifeless medium," Steinhardt said. And in remarks circulated to participants prior to the conference, ACLU President Nadine Strossen, a member of the Bertelsmann Foundation's "expert network" for the conference, invoked principles of free expressions enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the European Convention on Human Rights, and analogous national guarantees, such as the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Echoing GILC's criticism, Strossen said that the proposed rating and blocking schemes violate these free expression guarantees. Strossen strongly criticized a plan to establish telephone hotlines that the public can use to report objectionable Internet content, saying that it turns hotline operators into "self-appointed judges of law" and encourages vigilantism. "These hotlines violate due process concepts that are also enshrined in international, regional, and national guarantees around the world," she said. Strossen also stressed her agreement with the GILC recommendation that emphasizing education and parental supervision should receive far more attention than it has to date. -- The Internet PRIVACY Forum is a moderated digest for the discussion and analysis of issues relating to the general topic of privacy (both personal and collective) in the "information age" of the 1990's and beyond. Subscriptions are via an automatic list server system; for subscription information, please send a message consisting of the word "help" (quotes not included) in the BODY of a message to: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". URL: http://www.vortex.com/privacy/ . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- Safra?? Sth Africa? We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone? -Caveat Lector- Safra earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going?? We heard about the bullion in E Timor,(assuming it is true)the reason why the UN is there, to get it out..and there have been moves across the globe on the gold market.. Are the banks pulling in their reserves for the coming run?..or are they collecting in for the reps? Where is it all going?..Germany? Switzerland? Antarctic or US? The crash is upon us and the big players are taking steps. Any ideas?? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Ric, So I gather I am barking up the wrong tree.. Is there a reason for the oil price increase? ... Cashing in on it while they can perhaps?.. There is no shortage surely... I see it as they are trying to make as much out of it before the sustainable energies are popularised..or they are stockpiling for WW111, which is around the corner.. It is necessary to effect an economic crash before the NWO can be established... Y2K irrespective of the computer problems, will cause a run on the banks.. The financial markets will need their reserves. A global monetary system will be instigated (poss the Euro). Off on a tangent here: Gold has great value in alchemy processes.. It has always been associated with magic and magicians. You probably think the reptile think is a crock of sh*t but supposedly the reason why man was created was to be slaves for the Anunnaki.. to mine for gold.. Now what value would gold have for these aliens.. Something to do with density I suspect.. This whole Ufo phenomena is dimensional. Maybe they need gold to come down to our vibration..to take over.. Hey that could explain why the food we eat, the air we breathe is so full of poisons.Eugenics.. Kill us all off. I will pass on the 'steps' question.. It is not something I have studied, only what I have noticed. Awareness is usually the first step to understanding. I appreciate that you are more familiar with the machinations of this world of ours than I am and I thank you for your reply Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone? -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going?? Down. Gold's value continues to fall, as it generally has over the last 30-40 years. See the current price in US$ - track that price over the decades - factor in inflation - reach your own conclusion. Mine: gold is a sucker's bet. We heard about the bullion in E Timor, (assuming it is true) the reason why the UN is there, to get it out.. A not-very-thoughtful assumption, considering that the petroleum reserves in the Timor Sea are worth orders-of-magnitude MORE than any gold in East Timor. and there have been moves across the globe on the gold market.. Count the dollar amounts of those gold moves. Count the dollar amounts of the increase in petroleum prices [100%] this year, with OPEC enforcing production limits this year. Compare the amounts. Judge the significance yourself. My judgement: gold's value is minescule compared to oil's value. Are the banks pulling in their reserves for the coming run?.. or are they collecting in for the reps? Any big players 'collecting' gold right now must sure like its ornamental properties. Gold has some subjective value in jewelry, a very real value in electronics [your computer is filled with gold threads and coatings], and absolutely NO value in backing significant currencies. Where is it all going?..Germany? Switzerland? Antarctic or US? The crash is upon us and the big players are taking steps. And those steps are... ?? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no
Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- Makes me think about golden seal root. For quite some time it was the only thing on the market that would beat a urinalysis test. Can't see the placebo in that. Also was given a concoction of veg juices once that worked better than any pharmaceutical pain killer for a knee condition I have...I was working and the knee tightened up, and a homeopath whizzed the stuff up and I have to admit it was the most amazing recovery I have ever experienced. The musculature loosened up and the pain disappeared within an hour, and did not recur for many weeks. Very odd. I did not believe him when he gave it to me, but it worked! I have gotten totally friedd the few times I tried pharmaceuticals for pain and they are, in my opinion, just a drunk in a pill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hallelujah! Can I get a Witness? Globalization sucks.
-Caveat Lector- Why should we stop the M.A.I.? MAI stands for "MULTILATERAL AGREEMENT ON INVESTMENT." The MAI is being quietly negotiated through the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), a club of 29 rich countries, with no meaningful debate or input from citizens. The World Trade Organization calls it "the constitution of a single global economy." 1 The MAI would be "open to accession by all countries,"p11 MAI text with intense pressure to join. The text uses deceptive legal language which obscures the consequences for most people. "Investor" is broadly defined, but large corporations would benefit most because of their size, resources, political and legal clout, and presence in many countries. How would transnational corporations benefit? AN UNACCOUNTABLE GLOBAL COURT or "effective dispute settlement procedures."p9 Governments would give their "unconditional consent to the submission of a dispute"p63 to this new global tribunal. *With few exceptions, virtually all our laws, right down to our local bylaws, would be subject to the threat of successful corporate lawsuits through the MAI.** If investors from other countries which sign the MAI decided that one of our laws breached the MAI, including laws that held them accountable to employees or our community, they could sue our government for virtually unlimited damages p62 under an onerous "expropriationand compensation" clause.p51 Tribunal rulings would be "final and binding."p67 OUTLAWING LOCAL CONTROL. The MAI would phase out laws which restrain transnational business, in order to foster "liberalization of investment regimes." Our governments would "rollback"p154 or remove laws that violated the MAI and achieve "standstill"p152 i.e. not pass any more laws which, for instance, hinder access to government contracts by foreign investors,p31 or give advantage to domestic firms. Under "Transparency,"p15 governments would create a hit-list of all "non-conforming" laws subject to standstill, rollback, or potential investor disputes. RULES FAVOURING GLOBAL BUSINESS would enforce "national treatment" (between foreign and domestic investors) and "most favoured nation" statusp15 (between foreign investors). Every foreign investor could claim "treatment no less favourable" than that applied to the most favoured investor, whether domestic or foreign, in a given country. Domestic businesses in our high-wage, democratic countries would compete directly with foreign investors (i.e. the transnationals) which operate or source in low- wage, low-tax regions ruled by repressive regimes. The MAI would ban restrictions on "transfers"p53 of capital or "key personnel."p16 Jobs, plants and profits could move anywhere, anytime with no financial penalty. The MAI would also prohibit "performance requirements"p19 which require investors to buy, source, hire or invest locally, rather than in low-wage, repressive regimes. How would common people benefit from the MAI? THE MAI DRAFT OFFERS NO BENEFITS FOR NON-INVESTORS. The preamble just has vague assurances such as "the creation of employment opportunities and the improvement of living standards."p9 However, this sounds unlikely if, for instance, the MAI would ban "performance requirements" which encourage job creation or local investment. Also, the MAI tribunal would have no provision for governments to sue foreign investors,2 i.e. no means to prosecute foreign-based corporations on environmental, labour or any other social concerns. The U.S. Council on International Business is uncompromising on this: "We will oppose any and all measures to create or even imply binding obligations for governments or business related to the environment or labour." Why does our government want this treaty? THE MAI IS A PRODUCT OF ONGOING GOVERNMENT DECEPTION. MPs are not being fully informed. Sergio Marchi, Minister for International Trade, has allowed only a few little-publicized hearings. He even claimed "there is no agreement," that MAI discussions are "preliminary." Yet the MAI was almost ratified in May 1997. Now, contrary to media reports, the MAI is not dead, but has simply switched to one-on-one negotations to deal with dissenting OECD countries. If they sign on, they would be locked in for 20 years.p95 This "would offend the centuries-old principle... that no government or parliament tie the hands of a future parliament." (Bill Blaikie, MP) You can hold MP's accountable on the MAI WRITE YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT. Try our sample letter on the reverse. It challenges MPs to justify their government's own proposal: "Who would benefit from each MAI proposal, and why
[CTRL] DC Med Mj Vote Passes, Congress May Overturn
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: DRCNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: ALERT: DC Med Mj Vote Passes, Congress May Overturn Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:53:31 -0500 (CDT) VISIT: http://www.drcnet.org/medmjaction/ 9/22/99 Dear friend: On a cold November day last year -- Election Day -- I stood outside a downtown polling station, leafleting and speaking with fellow Washington, D.C. residents about I-59, a ballot initiative to legalize medical use of marijuana in the District of Columbia and prevent medical marijuana patients from being sent to prison. That night, I waited with my fellow activists for results of similar initiatives taking place in several states across the nation. The news was good -- medical marijuana passed everywhere, and comfortably. But the results of D.C.'s own medical marijuana initiative -- the one I had volunteered and voted for myself -- were kept secret, and would be kept secret for more than ten months. Congress had passed a law, introduced by Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), that prohibited the D.C. government from spending any funds to count or certify the results of the medical marijuana vote -- not even the estimated $1.74 of staff time it would have taken to push the button and have the computer print them out. Last week, a federal judge ruled that the Barr amendment is unconstitutional, and ordered D.C. election officials to count and certify the vote, an order with which they happily complied. The results were overwhelming, though not unexpected -- 69% of D.C. voters voted yes for medical marijuana, the same percentage found in an exit poll commissioned by Americans for Medical Rights. But Barr and his fellow hard-liners haven't given up, and even now are plotting to overturn D.C.'s long-awaited medical marijuana law -- and the U.S. Constitution gives them that power, if they act within 30 working days. That's why we need you to take action, and tell your U.S. Representative and your two Senators to respect the will of the voters and let D.C.'s medical marijuana law stand! Please visit http://www.drcnet.org/medmjaction/ to send an e-mail or fax to Congress. You can also use our site to find out your reps' phone numbers, to call them, for even more impact. And please forward this alert, or use the "tell-a-friend" page on the web site, to let as many people know about this important issue and how they can help. And please take action now -- though Congress has 30 working days, they could vote on this at any time, so please write Congress today! Sincerely, David Borden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Executive Director Drug Reform Coordination Network http://www.drcnet.org P.S. For further information, please visit the web sites of two organizations that worked hard to pass I-59 by a wide margin: ACTUP DC, the initiative's sponsors, online at http://www.actupdc.org, and the Marijuana Policy Project, online at http://www.mpp.org. For extensive information on the evidence relating to medical marijuana, visit the AMR- affiliated web site http://www.medmjscience.org || In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. || http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html || __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] keywords used by echelon
-Caveat Lector- from another list '' what are the keywords? "Keyword" is certainly a key word. There is a database of hundreds and hundreds of key words, ranging from certain dodgy terms (weapons, drugs, crimes in every slang imaginable) to political words (anarchy, insurrection, etc) to names and places (heads of state, ?heads of corporations?, organisations, important places from NATO headquarters to ECHELON sites across the world). I once tried compiling a list but gave up when it reached more than 500 words. You have to remember that it would also take nearly every language into account. Naturally this means that millions of messages (voice, fax, data) are netted by the systems every day. They then sift through them in a probably very very refined way passing on the REALLY suspicious ones to human evaluators. Of course a lot of logging also goes on, meaning that if a certain phone line/email address starts to display a very large amount of suspicious info this is recorded. The system has three weaknesses: 1. Strong encryption is a problem as Echelon and the computer systems around it don't have the resources to crack every PGP coded message. This takes a long time and can, as far as I know, only be done in extreme cases. Luckily for Echelon, not many people use strong encryption. 2. Storage capacity: The amount of data flowing through the systems is growing exponentially. Echelon can't record too much information or it would simply burst. This means that not everybody who uses the word "hacker" is recorded. 3. Humans. In the end all highly suspicious message have to reach a human evaluator. There aren't that many of them that they can deal with too much information in one day, especially if the subject is highly technical or in a language other than English. This is where the whole idea of jamming the works comes in , I expect. Create so much suspicious material that the human evaluators cannot cope anymore. I think this is a very good idea, sort of like the street theatre in front of CCTVs. A little bit of programming and widespread participation should do quite a bit of damage, I can imagine :-) Not that anybody would want to do anything like that. You know, fool around with the Men in Black. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sleep Deprivation, Drunkenness Compared
-Caveat Lector- 7 out of 10 American workers aren't able to get enough sleep ... Sleep Deprivation, Alcohol Compared By JANET McCONNAUGHEY .c The Associated Press NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Not sleeping enough can give you the same results as drinking too much. That's the conclusion of a Stanford University study of people with mild to moderate sleep apnea: people whose breathing stops several or even dozens of times an hour, interrupting their rest without their knowledge. About 12 million Americans have the problem but fewer than 2 million of them have been diagnosed, according to the American Sleep Apnea Association's Web site. The undiagnosed figure may be as high as 25 million, according to Stanford's Sleep Disorders Clinic and Research Center. People known to have apnea did as poorly on a test of reaction time as people who were too drunk to drive a bus or truck in California, said Dr. Nelson B. Powell of the Stanford center. On three of seven measurements, they did worse than people too drunk to drive at all in California and other states where the legal test is a blood alcohol content of .08 percent. Powell presented his study Sunday at the annual convention American Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery Foundation, Inc. He said he wanted to underscore the dangers of driving while sleepy, whether or not it's because of apnea. ``How many times have you or anybody you've known been nodding off at the wheel, or said, `Gee, I've got to roll the window down or turn the music louder'?'' he said. ``I'd bet every driver, at one time or another has driven too tired. We know it's wrong but we still do it.'' This study gives a comparison that people can understand, he said. ``This is a wonderful study,'' said Dr. Regina Walker, an associate professor of otolaryngology at Loyola University in Chicago. ``It is an extremely well-thought-out, well-controlled, prospective study that is looking at something I think is of great significance.'' The study looked at 80 volunteers and 113 people with apnea. The volunteers' average age was 29 and 56 percent were women. In contrast, 81 percent of the apnea patients were men, and their average age was 47. However, statistical analysis ruled out age and gender as reasons for the difference, Powell said. He said the full analysis will be published next month in a national peer-reviewed journal. All of the people took a 10-minute test of reaction speed, pushing a button to turn off a randomly set light. After four tests to get their baseline reaction time, the comparison group started drinking 80-proof alcohol. They were tested three more times as they kept drinking. Their blood alcohol count averaged .05 percent at the first re-test, .08 percent at the second and .083 at the third. It's illegal in California and several other states for anyone with a blood-alcohol content of more than .04 percent to drive a bus or truck, and .08 is considered legal proof of driving drunk in 16 states. In addition to simple reaction times, analysts looked at six mathematical permutations, such as the means of the 10 fastest and of the 10 slowest times. The apnea patients, whose breath stopped about 29 times an hour while they were asleep, did worse on all seven measurements than the drinkers did on their first re-test, and worse on three of them than those who were legally drunk. ``Many of my patients don't think being sleepy is a big deal,'' Walker said. ``I think this will help legislators and the public understand just how serious the problem is. ``Also that it's not controllable,'' she added. ``People think, `I can just make myself stay awake.' They can't.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/26/99 10:44:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Read "Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries" by Jonathan Eisen. I cannot recommend this book too highly. Very well written and documented suppression of very inexpensive and non toxic cancer treatments. Other information about suppressed alternative energy inventors. An excellent book. Gavin. Next time you have cholera, or Ebola, see a homeopath. If water has memory, each molecule should remember everybody who's ever pissed it out, everything it's ever dissolved. But where is that memory stored? Look at the structure of a water molecule - dihydrogen monoxide. How many bonds? How many ways can they be arranged? What information is stored in the arrangement of those bonds? What energy levels are needed to rearrange those bonds? If you dissolve a vanishingly small amount of anything into a quantity of water, how is energy transferred from the solute to the water molecules? If water has a memory, if new info can be stored in a water molecule, how can that info be unambiguously detected? If homeopathy worked, why don't pharmaceutical firms reduce the vast expenses of developing new drugs by producing homeopathic preparations? Those greedy bastards will do ANYTHING that will make money - why don't they increase profits homeopathically? If homeopathy worked, couldn't medical groups dispense with hoards of expensive physicians, pharmacists, etc? If homeopathy is a viable system, why hasn't it prevailed after 150+ years? I know, I know - it's all a conspiracy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Foolishness of Legalisms vs the IRS
-Caveat Lector- Finally! Someone defines the foolishness of challenging the IRS in court. -Original Message- From: Samuel E. Konkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:12 AM Subject: Re: CIA Mind Control By Mises, Rothbard, and LeFevre! I never thought I'd agree with Bolton, other than "a" and "the", but I wouldn't change a word of this paragraph: "Craig J. Bolton" wrote: Date:Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:17:45 EST5EDT From:Virginia Cropsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I guess that it all comes down to a matter of faith, Virginia. As someone who has practiced law for about 16 years now and who has a pretty good idea of how government and the courts actually function, I have an absolute faith that if you tomorrow came up with definitive proof that the 16th Amendment was never really adopted, that it is contrary to every principle of constitutional law, and that there is absolutely no basis for not declaring it unconstitutional, that there would be absolutely no effect. You have confidence that some federal judge is going to say to you: "Oh my God, Virginia has come up with the definitive citation! I now declare the income tax unconstitutional, require that the IRS be disbanded, and all taxes illegally collected for the past 70+ years be returned to the people. Thank you so much, Virginia, for saving us from tyranny through inadvertence." Craig Bolton It should be copied and spread across the land(s) and e-scape and become as famous as, "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus . . ." Good writing, Craig. Freely as ever, SEK3 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Waco post
-Caveat Lector- And since when would these agencies be the proper ones to be dealing with child abuse in the first place! I do not think that would fall under the jurisdiction of BATF and Delta Force even IF it had been occurring. Amelia - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:21 PM Subject: [CTRL] Waco post -Caveat Lector- From alt.conspiracy, WACO and the Child abuse allegations. Enjoy, or not. Subject: Post of FINAL evidence against WACO Child Abuse, End of Premise From: "James Perkins" A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Fri, 24 September 1999 02:01 PM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: No more crap about child abuse - End of argument for Fed supporters Date: 1999/09/19 Author: James Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the St. Louis "Post Dispatch" Full article at: A HREF="http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35 AD A862"http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35 AD A862/A 567F1003C8CD7?OpenDocument "The nation already knows that there was some poor judgment. Officials of the FBI and Justice Department have acknowledged as much. The FBI has admitted that some of its tactics, like broadcasting loud noises, were ill-conceived. It has admitted that it did not have new evidence of child abuse at the time it used child-abuse allegations to persuade Attorney General Janet Reno to authorize the assault on the compound. And the FBI has belatedly admitted that it fired pyrotechnic tear gas at a bunker on the morning of the assault, even though Reno had denied for years that flammable tear gas was used." So, the next time anyone (especially familyvalues) wants to throw this argument up as a shield for the Fed, "Just Say NO". James Perkins DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards
-Caveat Lector- Sorry, but this begs for the old saw "Well, it certainly deters ONE person !" Amelia - Original Message - From: Taylor, John (JH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 4:06 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards -Caveat Lector- So what if the death penalty deters? Steven Goldberg National Review, June 30, 1989 v41 n12 p42(2) -- -- Opponents of the death penalty have many reasons for their opposition that innocent people may be executed, that the death penalty is 'uncivilized',- that the state should not take lives. But what these arguments come down to is. DOES THE THREAT of the death penalty deter people from murderous behavior more than the threat of imprisonment for life? We do not yet know with anything even approaching certainty whether the death penalty does or does not deter. The question is clearly empirical; and it is likely that sophisticated statistical techniques will eventually permit us an answer. Professor Isaac Ehrlich and his colleagues, utilizing his statistical techniques, argue that there can be little doubt about the ability of the death penalty to deter. Ehrlich concludes that each additional execution prevents about seven or eight people from committing murder. All statistical arguments on the death penalty are, however, excruciatingly complex. Some critics, for example, have argued that increased likelihood of execution leads juries to convict fewer people, thereby offsetting the deterrent effect. If anything, the empirical evidence is that the death penalty does deter. But this is inevitably open to dispute. As a result, firm conclusions that the death penalty either does or does not deter are unwarranted and usually determined by one's psychological and moral leanings. In academic and media circles, psychological and moral resistance to the idea of the death penalty usually leads to the assertion that it does not deter. These people's conclusion may or may not be correct, but it does not follow from the arguments they deploy. Since many murders result from emotional impulse (e.g., the angry husband who kills his wife), the death penalty could have, at best only the slightest deterrent effect, If the death penalty deters, it is likely that it does so through society's saying that certain acts are so unacceptable that society will kill someone who commits them. The individual internalizes the association of the act and the penalty throughout his life, constantly increasing his resistance to committing the act. Note that there is no implication here that the potential murderer consciously weighs the alternatives and decides that the crime is worth life in prison, but not death. No serious theory of deterrence claims that such rational calculation of punishment (as opposed to no rational calculation, or calculation only of the probability of getting caught) plays a role. There is no a priori reason for assuming that this process is less relevant to emotional acts than rational acts; most husbands, when angry, slam doors, shout, or sulk. Neither the death penalty nor anything else deterred the husband who did murder his wife, so the question is not what deterred the person who did murder (nothing did), but what deterred the person who didn't. If the death penalty deters, it is, in all likelihood, primarily because it instills a psychological resistance to the act, not because it offers a rational argument against committing the act at the time that the decision is being made. In short, it is only legislators who calculate (or at least should calculate) the deterrent effect of the death penalty. Potential murderers simply act; the deterrent effect of the death penalty, if there is one, acts upon them. If it acts with sufficient strength, it prevents their becoming murderers. The legislator is the physicist studying the forces that move particles; the potential murderers are the moving particles. There is no evidence that the death penalty deters. This is simply untrue. Ehrlich's complex statistical techniques establish a real case that the death penalty deters. But here let us assume, for argument's sake, that there was no such evidence. The more important point is that there is a crucial difference between there being no evidence that two things are correlated and there being evidence that two things are not correlated. The latter means that we have good evidence that the two things are not related; the former means simply that we have no evidence on either side of the case. Now, it is quite true that we must have some sort of evidence in order to even entertain the idea that two things are related. Our reason for not believing that tall Italian men are smarter than short Italian men is not simply that we have no direct evidence, but also because we have no
[CTRL] Book:LOCKDOWN AMERICA: POLICE AND PRISONS IN THE AGE OF CRISIS
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart Book:LOCKDOWN AMERICA: POLICE AND PRISONS IN THE AGE OF CRISIS INDEPENDENT (London) September 27 MONDAY BOOK: THE HIDDEN COST OF `ZERO TOLERANCE' The reviewer (whose name doesn't appear in the web page) is Professor of Criminology at Edge Hill University College and author of `Hillsborough: The Truth' (Mainstream) LOCKDOWN AMERICA: POLICE AND PRISONS IN THE AGE OF CRISIS by CHRISTIAN PARENTI (Verso, pounds 20) IN HIS excellent Crime and Punishment in America, Elliott Currie notes that the 1967 Kerner Commission on Urban Disorders brought the US to a law-and-order crossroads, agreeing that "we could never imprison our way out of America's violent crime problem." Resisting crime meant "attacking social exclusion". Instead, the US took another road, resulting in "bursting prisons, devastated cities, and a violent crime rate unmatched in the developed world". Enter Christian Parenti and his stunning, evocative Lockdown America. Pinpointing the political moments that shaped America's draconian criminal-justice policies, he reveals corrupt policing and imprisonment and the overt targeting of "problem populations". Lockdown America is a critique of a cynical devaluation of the democratic process. From his careful analysis of the Watergate fall-out to his "nuts- and-bolts history of profound economic crisis", Parenti reveals the hidden depths of an authoritarian project's "battle for hearts and minds". This was Ronald Reagan's inheritance - the backdrop to his war on crime. Economic libertarianism could not be delivered without social authoritarianism. Parenti shows how the federal judiciary was stacked with "mean-spirited" zealots; how permissive forfeiture laws were relentlessly enforced to pursue a campaign of racist state intervention. He establishes behind- the-scenes connections between Reaganomics, anti-communist strategies in Central America and the "right-wing cultural backlash" - the foundation for the construction of the "underclass". This strategy, as in Britain, targeted "idlers" and "loafers" as marginals by choice rather than circumstance. At its heart was "race spoken through the code of crime and welfare". Parenti then takes apart the myths of "zero tolerance" or "quality of life" policing. It is a tale of "rapidly and insidiously escalating police powers" resulting in an "American-style democratic police state". Of course, the broken windows were fixed, the streets cleaned and the subway secured to make Manhattan presentable. But as "zero tolerance" swept the US, policing became "overly aggressive". The clampdown exacerbated a climate of fear. Virtually unaccountable, the police routinely violated civil liberties. Paramilitary Special Weapons And Tactics (SWAT) units literally went to war: "their task, destruction and conquest... the civilian community, the enemy." For politicians, this was a small price to pay for urban renewal. Parenti relates this social pathologisation to the spiralling incarceration rate, which is used to manage "the contradictions of restructured American capitalism" while giving politicians a bankable ballot-box currency. Yet mass imprisonment "terrorises the poor" and "warehouses social dynamite". These detailed chapters are painful, as Parenti catalogues the rape, torture and brutality endemic within US prisons. His argument is convincing: rape has become "central" to the politics of incarceration. In male jails, prisoner rape is condoned; in women's prisons, coast to coast, "guards routinely rape women prisoners with near-total impunity". In 1985, 500,000, were incarcerated in federal prisons. By 1998, the figure was 1.7 million. This includes a 500 per cent rise in women's imprisonment. Such numbers cannot be effectively managed, with prison life dominated by powerful gangs. At the end of the line come super-maximum prisons run on regimes of "extraordinary isolation". The key has, literally, been thrown away. The financial rewards of prison expansion are staggering, with over half a million full-time employees and an annual expenditure of US$35 bn. Increasingly privatised, prison is bigger than "any Fortune 500 company except General Motors". For "industrial-military complex", now read "prison-industrial complex" - a form of "carceral Keynesianism that revives "economically moribund regions". Parenti's conclusion is clear. With "soft" forms of control easily grafted on to repression, executions and brutalising regimes have been made compatible with anger management, restitution and shaming. "Therapy and the gas chamber are by no means mutually exclusive." Decarceration is his first priority, followed by decriminalisation. Lockdown America is impressive: hardly a sentence passes without a reference. Direct quotations from politicians, commentators and witnesses are painstakingly reproduced. The book is in the best tradition of investigative journalism, paced
[CTRL] FW: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart Gulf War Illness Probe To Advance With New Study By PAUL LIKOUDIS Tom Clancy's latest novel Rainbow Six rivets readers with a fictional account of environmentalist elites who decide that the only way they can save the world is to radically eliminate over 95% of the human population. Some of the world's leading scientists develop a strain of viruses, which they call Shiva after the Indian goddess of death, and devise an ingenious method to infect the world's population. Part of Clancy's plot involves the development of two antibodies to fight the new virus, one of which will be for the world's elite, to inoculate them; the other for the sick, to make them sicker. But there's a more riveting real-life scenario unfolding in the United States and around the world that puts Clancy's fictional thriller into the realm of the credible: the efforts of a small group of reputable scientists, sick U.S. veterans, and a handful of investigative journalists to unlock the secrets of Gulf War Illness (GWI), sometimes referred to as Gulf War Syndrome, which has afflicted between 100,000 and 200,000 military personnel who served in President George Bush's Desert Storm and their families, and which is responsible for perhaps 15,000 deaths. The number of military personnel who have died of the mysterious illness remains a classified secret, one of GWI's top researchers, Dr. Garth Nicolson of the Institute for Molecular Medicine, told The Wanderer. For nearly ten years, since his daughter Sharron returned from the gulf where she served with the 101st Airborne, Nicolson and his wife, Nancy, a molecular biophysicist, have waged a lonely, frustrating, and often dangerous campaign to discover the causes of GWI while working on a treatment. Their first big break came last week (Jan. 12, '99) when they were notified by the U.S. Army that their research had been validated and their Institute for Molecular Medicine would be one of three centers, with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and the University of Texas at San Antonio, involved in a $12 million Veterans' Administration funded project to develop a treatment for the debilitating and often fatal illness, an infection known technically as mycoplasma fermentans. Dr. Nicolson explains that slightly under one half of the Gulf War veterans he has tested have shown signs of infection by mycoplasma fermentans. For the husband/wife team of researchers, the army's notice came as a tremendous vindication after years of repeated attempts by government agencies to ruin their careers, their credibility, and their research. As both Nancy and Garth Nicolson wrote in the October, 1996 issue of Criminal Politics, since he began researching the causes of GWI, he has lived through a government sponsored "nightmare." "We were attacked by high level military physicians, ostracized by certain colleagues who spread rumors about our sanity, forced out of academic institutions by a concerted effort that involved nonstop administrative harassment, mail and courier theft, wiretaps, credit card fraud, breaking a tenure contract, computer and documents theft, attempts to block our scientific and medical presentations, sabotage our clinical samples, and undermine our employees." Their ordeal over the past eight years since 1991 has convinced them that certain sections of the U.S. government, working with what might be called the "eugenics elite" at the country's top research labs in the fields of biochemistry and genetic engineering, are testing new designer biologic agents on the American public, starting with prisoners and military personnel. Who They Are The Doctors Garth and Nancy Nicolson are not your ordinary conspiracy theory "nuts." Garth Nicolson before setting up the Institute for Molecular Medicine, a 501c3 corporation, in Huntington Beach, Calif. was the David Bruton, Jr., Chair in Cancer Research and professor at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, and professor of internal medicine and professor of pathology and laboratory medicine at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston. He was also adjunct professor of comparative medicine at Texas AM University. Among the most cited scientists in the world, having published over 480 medical and scientific papers, edited 13 books, served on the editorial boards of 12 medical and scientific journals, and currently serving as editor of two (Clinical Experimental Metastasis and the Journal of Cellular Biochemistry), he has been the recipient of numerous research grants from the U.S. Army, the National Cancer Institute, National Institutes of Health, the American Cancer Society, and the National Foundation for Cancer Research. In 1998, he received the Stephen Paget Award from the Cancer Metastasis Research Society and the Albert Schweitzer Award in Lisbon. Nancy Nicolson, a molecular biophysicist, was on
[CTRL] Biowarfare, Genetically modified Mycoplasma Fermentans
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.immed.org/free/htmldoc/sumpe.htm Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart SUMMARY OF PERSIAN GULF WAR ILLNESS PILOT STUDY ON MYCOPLASMAL INFECTIONS IN VETERANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS Garth L. Nicolson, Ph.D. and Nancy L. Nicolson, Ph.D. The Institute for Molecular Medicine, P.O. Box 52470, Irvine, California 92619-2470 Approximately 50,000-100,000 U.S. and ~3,500 British soldiers returned from Operation Desert Storm with unusual illnesses characterized by a variety of chronic signs and symptoms. Our step-daughter was one of these soldiers. Since we had some experience with a disease that caused similar complex signs and symptoms, we proposed that the Desert Storm or Persian Gulf War Illness (GWI) might be caused by a severe mycoplasmal infection and that it should be treatable with appropriate antibiotics. We conducted a pilot study of Desert Storm veterans and their families for the presence of unusual mycoplasmal infections. This study showed that 55/73 GWI patients, including symptomatic family members, responded to an antibiotic (doxycycline) that is effective against a variety of mycoplasmas, and these soldiers and their family members who were sick with the same symptoms eventually recovered from their illness (Nicolson, G.L. and Nicolson, N.L. Doxycycline treatment and Desert Storm J. Amer. Med. Assoc. 273: 618-619, 1995). Since this study we have continued to gather evidence that mycoplasmal infections, and probably other chronic infectious agents, are causing the chronic signs and symptomsof GWI that are similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (Nicolson, G.L. and Nicolson, N.L. Chronic fatigue illness and Operation Desert Storm. J. Occup. Environ. Med. 38: 14-16, 1996). Mycoplasmas are microorganisms whose genetic complexity and classification are similar to bacteria. These microorganisms are usually indolent in normal healthy individuals and are not often associated with severe diseases. In fact, most adults may have had mycoplasmal pneumonia or a urogenital tract infection caused by mycoplasmas. The mycoplasmas we have found in a sizable fraction of the Gulf War Illness patients are unlikely to be naturally occurring and could be Biological Weapons. We have based this notion on the observation that the mycoplasmas that we have found in clinical blood samples from Desert Storm veterans contain unusual DNA sequences that they probably did not obtain in the wild. For example, we have detected mycoplasma DNA sequences from Mycoplasma fermentans (incognitus strain) and a few soldiers with modified Mycoplasma genitalium in veterans and their family members with GWI as well as the HIV-1 envelope or env gene. The former type of mycoplasma was studied by Dr. Shyh Lo, formerly of Tanox Biosystems, a spin-off biotechnology company from the Baylor College of Medicine, but now affiliated with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington, DC. Two points need to be clarified regarding our identification of HIV-1 genes and mycoplasma sequences in the soldiers and symptomatic family members that have GWI: 1. We detected HIV-1 genes in the same nucleoprotein fractions as the mycoplasma genes but we did not detect the complete HIV-1 virus genome. Thus these patients do not have the complete HIV-1 virus that is associated with AIDS. This virus must contain the entire HIV-1 genome to replicate. 2. We observed a very small subset of soldiers who had another gene sequence, the HIV-1 polymerase gene. Thus GWI patients contain individual genes of the HIV-1 virus genome but not the complete virus. What this might mean: 1. Mycoplasmas possessing the HIV-1 env gene could allegedly have been engineered to make them more invasive and pathogenic and more difficult to find. The HIV-1 env gene encodes a surface glycoprotein, gp120, that is involved in virus attachment and entry into cells through receptors on the cell surface. This could result in opportunistic cell attachment and penetration of many types of cells and most tissues. 2. It is unlikely that our experiments are incorrectly detecting these unusual genes in biological samples. We used highly specific oligonucleotide probes for our studies. The probes are themselves unique complimentary DNA sequences and are analogous to probes used in studies called DNA hybridization analyses. Such techniques are well accepted in the forensic field. If the DNA sequence from a particular infectious agent is present, we can specifically identify its presence. Since the DNA probe is radiolabeled, it will interlock with a specific DNA sequence from the infectious agent to produce a radioactive signal (if the infectious DNA sequence is present). In our case the agent DNA is detected in cell nuclear fractions, and we detect the radioactive signal by X-ray autoradiography using Nucleoprotein Gene Tracking (Nicolson, N.L. and Nicolson, G.L. The isolation, purification and analysis of specific
[CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector- This is one company that is very RIPE for corporate death. REVOKE! Monsanto's corporate charter. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart INDEPENDENT (London) September 26 By Geoffrey Lean MONSANTO, the genetically modified food giant, drew up plans to make billions of dollars out of the world's water crisis, confidential company documents reveal. The documents, seen by the Independent on Sunday, identify a "vast economic opportunity" for the company in impending global shortages of resources such as water. They outline a strategy to use "environmental issues" to "deliver strong financial returns" and create "a compelling possible future for Monsanto - financially, strategically and aspirationally." The revelation of the strategy - drawn up in connection with recently dropped plans to establish water businesses in India and Mexico - follows the publication 10 days ago of a report on the growing global environmental crisis by the United Nations Environment Programme. The GEO 2000 report identifies impending water shortage as the world's greatest environmental problem after global warming. It says that over one-third of the world's people already live in countries suffering "water stress" and that, on present trends, two-thirds will do so by the year 2025. It adds: "The declining state of the world's freshwater resources may prove to be the dominant issue on the environment and development agenda of the coming century." The confidential Monsanto document - a "sustainable development sector strategy" and a "water business plan" use the same statistics and take up the same theme. The business plan adds that two billion people worldwide "still lack reasonable access to safe water" and says that this is likely to rise to 2.5 billion over the next decade. The document, like much of Monsanto's material on genetically modified foods, is written in idealistic language. The strategy paper says that one of its aims, as well as strengthening Monsanto, is "to help solve some of the world's major environmental issues and to improve quality of life in the process". It concludes: "We at Monsanto have been given the rare opportunity to enjoy the wealth of spirit that comes from doing the right thing while we are doing business." But the documents display a sharp sense of the gains for Monsanto, both now and in the future: "Initial entry into the water business will create US$400m in annual revenues . furthermore, extension of the water platform beyond the safe and healthy water business has the potential to create several billion dollars in annual revenue." It adds that there would be "other strategic benefits", including "reshaping Monsanto's image as a more sustainable and environmentally positive company". It goes on: "Population growth and economic development will apply increasing pressure on natural resource markets. Those pressures, and the world's desire to prevent the consequences of those pressures if unabated, will create vast economic opportunity." Yesterday Dr Vandana Shiva, director of the Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology in New Delhi, India, said: "Monsanto is seeking a new business opportunity because of the emerging water crisis. Since water is as central to food production as seed, and without water life is not possible, Monsanto is now trying to establish its control over it . [as] a source of guaranteed profits. Privatisation and commodification of water are a threat to the right to life." A Monsanto spokesman confirmed that the company had made plans to exploit the world water situation but had decided several months ago not to proceed. "We do not like to talk too much about plans that were never completed," he said. But he did not rule out that the company might return to them in the future. = *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Charles Hayes' Fifth Column
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart At various points in his career Hayes came face-to-face with the black reality that elements of the U.S. government were neck-deep in drug and arms running, software piracy and a raft of other abuses. It was personal profiteering under the guise of national policy. Like thousands of other straight government workers who stumbled onto this dirty trail, Hayes had little power to stop it. But he vowed one day he would deliver justice to the well-dressed scum that were turning his beloved United States into just another narco-republic. "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord," Hayes quips, "But gettin' even is Chuck's." Or as the motto says on his flag-bedecked Charles Hayes Group letterhead: "If it is to be, it is up to me." The secret to "gettin' even" came within Hayes' reach when he was assigned to a little known team inside the CIA called Division D, or "Squad D." According to Bob Woodward's CIA book "Veil," Division D was "an elite group...[which] did some of the risky breaking and entering in foreign-government offices to plant eavesdropping equipment." Some of that was done electronically by hacking into foreign computer systems. To do that, Hayes cryptically seems to confirm, he was trained to maintain and customize hardware and software for powerful, code-busting Cray supercomputers. All he will officially admit, usually grinning through a haze of cigarette smoke: "Mah gummint trained me we." = Copyright © 1996 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com). All Rights Reserved. Reproduced by special arrangement with Informatics Resource and the Washington Weekly. JAILED CHUCK HAYES CLAIMS FBI SETUP Chuck Hayes is a crooked government's worst nightmare. Which is probably why he's in jail without bond. By James Norman, December 9, 1996 The Washington Weekly, (http://dolphin.gulf.net) Sooner or later, Chuck Hayes and the FBI were destined for a show-down. Either he'd get them, or they'd get him. They both hate each other, with good reason. For many months they had played cat and mouse, warily circling each other looking for an opening. Finally, Chuck Hayes got a Pearl Harbor sneak attack. It was a little after 5 p.m. on Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1996. Sitting in the office of the 8-unit Beckett Motel in the little town of Nancy in hilly southeastern Kentucky, overlooking a scenic arm of Lake Cumberland called Fishing Creek, Hayes watched as three men in suits drove up and walked in. "You rent rooms by the week or by the month?" asked one. "By the week, but not by the month," replied the white-haired motel proprietor and retired CIA contractor. Cordial but cautious, Hayes could smell a G-man miles away. "Doesn't really matter," replied FBI Special Agent David R. Keller: "You're under arrest." More than a month later, the 61-year-old Hayes remains behind bars in the nearby Laurel County Detention Facility in London, Ky., held without bond. He is charged with supposedly hiring an undercover FBI agent for a paltry $5,000 to kill his son, John Anthony Hayes, a Louisville real estate salesman whom Hayes has all but disowned over alleged drug use. The "hit" allegedly meant crossing a state line and using the mail and telephone, so that made it a federal case. The FBI claims to have damning evidence: taped phone conversations ordering the supposed murder-for-hire and disposal of the body. Trial is set for mid-January. Hayes could get 10 years in prison. On the surface, things look grim for Hayes. On October 25, U.S. Magistrate Judge J. B. Johnson Jr., citing Hayes' Internet nickname "Angel of Death," declared him a threat to society and a flight risk. So he denied Hayes the right to post bail. Three times Hayes thought he had hired a lawyer, but each backed out for odd reasons amid speculation of government pressure. At a pre-trial hearing November 26, Hayes had to represent himself to get his rushed trial pushed back from December 2. Hayes has yet to get a receipt for the $2,600 of cash or the credit cards taken from him at the jail. And to add insult to injury, the motel itself and the house Hayes lived in have been turned over to his son, the would-be assassination target, as part of a long-running inheritance dispute. So is Hayes bummed out? Hardly. He sounds elated. Calling collect from the jailhouse, Hayes declares with a laugh that he will not only prove the FBI's case is a frame-up, but that it is fraught with perjury and ethics violations. "We've notified the court we intend to prosecute FBI agent Keller on several counts of perjury," says Hayes. In addition, the Assistant U.S. Attorney, Martin Hatfield "failed to carry out a court order" to turn over evidence, claims Hayes. "That can mean his law license, and I intend to have it." In other words, he's got 'em right where they want him. It gets better: "Charles Hayes is in jail because he tweaked the government's nose," says his
Re: [CTRL] More Gov't action via the Internet
-Caveat Lector- Not only that- They're attempting to lay the people bare before biowarfare agents which are under development and in testing stages currently on the public, on military personnel, and prison inmates. Pay attention to information on "resistant" pathogens, on GWS (gulf war syndrome) and on GWS-related mycoplasma fermentans, which also appears to be linked to AIDS- both of which seem to be linked to U.S. government experimentation prior to "outbreaks" of any kind... "When we looked at the history of the mycoplasma research, we found evidence that the military (i.e., the U.S. Army) had funded the mycoplasma vaccine testing in the Huntsville Texas Prison well before the Gulf War. This testing has been done by a bio-tech firm in Houston - Tanox Biosystems." [ED. NOTE: The Nicolsons believe Tanox Biosystems is partly owned by James Baker III (George Bush's former Secretary of State and a major force in the Reagan and Bush Administrations), George Bush is or was also a stockholder. Tanox Biosystems is one of the firms listed in the Gulf War Veterans class action lawsuit. Tanox Biosystems, according to the Nicolsons, works very closely with Baylor College of Medicine which has been doing intensive research on mycoplasmas since at least the mid-80's]. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Jamie Shafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 6:09 PM Subject: More Gov't action via the Internet From Y2K Newswire http://www.Y2KNewswire.com Last week, the FDA moved to criminalize the selling of colloidal silver -- a substance with natural, powerful antibiotic properties that costs mere pennies to make. Senators are also attempting to criminalize mere discussions of "non-approved drugs" on the Internet. Both ploys lock in drug-company profits while stripping away your freedom. Coincidence? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GAO reports 478,000 Nerve-Gas M55 rockets are unstable as stored by DoD
Title: Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart Chemical Weapons: Safe until 2004? In a December 1994 report, the General Accounting Office questioned an Army assessment that the U.S. chemical weapons stockpile can be safely stored until 2004. This is Congress's latest deadline for the Department of Defense to destroy stockpiled unitary chemical weapons--those that contain a single lethal agent. Of concern are 478,000 M55 rockets stored at sites in five states and on Johnston Atoll in the Pacific Ocean. According to GAO and technical consultant Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, these stockpiled M55 rockets are unstable as stored and inadequately monitored by the Army, the Department of Defense's lead service in chemical matters. Deadly Sarin Initially, Congress directed the Department of Defense to destroy M55s and the rest of the stockpile by 30 September 1994. When the Army fell behind in implementing its $8.5 billion on-site incineration program, Congress extended the deadline to 2004 and asked the Army to evaluate the stockpile's physical and chemical integrity. The Army's July 1993 report--based on inspection and laboratory data and old stockpile assessment reports--said the stockpile was safe for now but uncertain beyond 2004. Congress asked GAO to review the Army's estimate and contingency plans if something goes wrong. Responding to the GAO report and recommendations made in 1994 by the National Research Council, the Army Chemical Demilitarization and Remediation Activity, based at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, released a statement February 16 that said work would begin in fiscal year 1995 to determine the storage life of leaking and nonleaking M55 rockets. Each M55 rocket consists of a warhead that carries 10 pounds of nerve agent (GB) and an explosive charge, and a solid-rocket motor with a nitroglycerin-based propellant and a stabilizer that keeps heat from building up as the propellant decomposes. If the decomposing propellant gets too hot or acidic, the M55 could autoignite. All stockpiled weapons contain a mustard/blister agent (H) or one of two nerve agents (VX or GB). M55s carry GB, and, the Army report adds, nerve agents, especially GB, become acidic over time and can corrode metal warheads of rockets, mortars, and projectiles. "The propellant is unstable and so is the chemical agent," says Donna Heivilin, GAO's director of Defense Management and NASA section and author of the 1994 report to Congress, "and the M55 design makes it hard to physically separate the propellant from the GB. If the propellant blows up, the chemical agent would disperse. This is what makes the M55 more dangerous [than other stockpile weapons]." Threats to stockpile storage include earthquakes, plane crashes, tornadoes, accidents during handling and maintenance, autoignition of the propellant, and chemical leaks from the warhead. And the potential danger to human life is immense, even if one rocket ignited, because, according to the Army's 1994 report, M55 Rocket Storage Life Evaluation, "the resulting explosion and fire in a storage igloo could involve many of the 4,000 rockets that typically are stored together." "The congressional mandate is that the Army dispose of these [unitary chemical weapons] in the safest, most environmentally sound fashion," says Craig Williams, national spokesperson for the Chemical Weapons Working Group, an international coalition of environmental and ecological groups. "But the Army's focus is on the comparative risk of continued storage versus incineration. We've been trying for years to broaden the scope of that analysis to include comparisons among continued storage, reconfiguration, reconfiguration with partial neutralization, and incineration." Reconfiguration, Williams says, "involves moving the M55s to a munitions detonation-containment building, using robots to disassemble the munitions, separating chemical agents from other components, and partially neutralizing the by-products. Then we'd have hazardous waste, which isn't great. But what we have now are rockets and mortars ready to launch and send nerve agents randomly into communities. We'd have reduced the risk of exposing chemical warfare agents to facility workers and the community to zero." At the Army Chemical Demilitarization and Remediation Activity at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Mark Evans, special assistant to the program manager, says this is easier than it sounds. To neutralize the M55s, he says, "we'd have to build 90 percent of the demilitarization [high temperature incinerator] facility we plan to build anyway. We are updating cost estimates for rocket separation, but there are no good neutralization techniques for VX and GB, and we'd produce a lot of waste. The Army believes that if the risk assessments show the rockets can be stored through 2013, our incineration program is
Re: [CTRL] Propaganda in a Democratic Society
-Caveat Lector- Sean McDougal forwarded: There are two kinds of propaganda - rational propaganda in favor of action that is consonant with the enlightened self-interest of those who make it and those to whom it is addressed, and non-rational propaganda that is not consonant with anybody's enlightened self-interest, but is dictated by, and appeals to, passion. MJ: This is absurd. *ANY* action by *ANY* person is done so for their OWN rational self-interest. Propaganda is the means of control IN a DEMOCRACY among other variations. This was revealed by many such as Hobbes: A democracy is no more than an aristocracy of orators. The people are so readily moved by demagogues that control must be exercised by the government over speech and press. Additionally the idea that 'democracy' is somehow congruent and or compatible with its opposite 'individual freedom' adds 'whipped topping' to Huxley's entire piece of nonsense. Regard$, --MJ Except in the sacred texts of democracy and in the incantations of orators, we hardly take the trouble to pretend that the rule of the majority is not at bottom a rule of force. What other virtue can there be in fifty-one percent except the brute fact that fifty-one is more than forty-nine? The rule of fifty-one per cent is a convenience, it is for certain matters a satisfactory political device, it is for others the lesser of two evils, and for others it is acceptable because we do not know any less troublesome method of obtaining a political decision. But it may easily become an absurd tyranny if we regard it worshipfully, as though it were more than a political device. We have lost all sense of its true meaning wheen we imagine that the opinion of fifty-one per cent is in some high fashion the true opinion of the whole hundred per cent, or indulge in the sophistry that the rule of a majority is based upon the ultimate equality of man. -- Walter Lippmann DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] No More Guns for Gun Nuts
-Caveat Lector- "``The value of this new law is not so much that police can seize your guns [if you're a "nut"},' said Connecticut representative Lawlor, sponsor of the state law.. "``It gives police a system to investigate a person who poses a potential threat. The police can now look into a person's behavior and prevent future tragedy by intervening.'' Law Targets Dangerous Gunowners By ADAM GORLICK .c The Associated Press HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Before Columbine High School, before the Atlanta day trader offices, before the Jewish community center in Los Angeles, there was Matthew Beck. In March 1998, the 35-year-old accountant went on a suicidal shooting spree in his offices at the Connecticut Lottery headquarters. Four people died before Beck put the gun to his own head. Lawmakers reacted with one of the toughest gun-seizure laws on the books. Starting next month, Connecticut police will be allowed to confiscate guns from anyone determined to be an immediate danger to himself or others. The law is rooted in the notion that rampages such as Beck's are preceded by a detectable descent into madness. Critics say the law tramples the Second Amendment and fear it could lead to unwarranted searches and seizures. Supporters say the standards for seizing guns are so high the law will seldom be used. From both sides, Connecticut's law - apparently the first of its kind - is attracting attention. Legally seizing a gun will require more than suspicion, said state police Lt. Robert Kiehm. There must be evidence that the person recently tortured animals, threatened to kill himself or others or acted violently. A police investigation must conclude there is no other way to keep the person from doing harm, and a warrant must be issued by a judge. The law also requires a hearing within 14 days to determine whether the gun should be returned. ``You need probable cause just to begin an investigation,'' Kiehm said. ``But it gives police officers the power to take some proactive steps instead of waiting for something to happen.'' Beck had threatened to kill his bosses at the lottery several days before the rampage. His co-workers were so nervous, one started bringing a gun to work for his own protection, said Rep. Michael Lawlor, the law's sponsor. Under the new law, if those co-workers had ``called the cops and said Beck was talking about guns and making threats, something could have been done before the shooting happened,'' Lawlor said. Gun-rights advocates argue that allowing police to take weapons from people who haven't done anything wrong violates their Constitutional right to bear arms ``You don't forfeit your rights just because you might do something bad,'' said Dennis Fusaro, director of state legislation for Gun Owners of America. The National Rifle Association declined to comment. The law also could lead to illegal searches, said Rep. Richard Tulisano. ``Now police can say, `We saw you kick a dog peeing on your petunias, so now we could go in your house and look for guns because you might be dangerous,''' Tulisano said. ``What happens if they're looking for guns and they find drugs? This law becomes the basis for which people could invade your home.'' Lawmakers in other states say the focus on prevention is the law's strength. Illinois Rep. Tom Dart, a Chicago Democrat, said he plans to introduce a similar Illinois proposal in November. ``The thing that frustrates me is that when they're pulling bodies out of a house, neighbors are telling the police 'Yeah, the guy who shot them was nuts - we all knew that,''' Dart said. ``But everyone says that there's nothing that they could have done to stop the shooting.'' Steven Duke, a Yale University law professor, said he doubts the law would have prevented Mark O. Barton from killing nine people at two brokerage firms in Atlanta in July. ``What guy who wants to shoot somebody is really going to be deterred because his pet weapon has been confiscated?'' Duke asked. But Lawlor said the new law could stop people like Benjamin Smith, the white supremacist who killed two people and wounded nine during a two-state shooting spree targeting Jews, blacks and Asians. Smith's criminal record and reputation for passing out hate literature could have prompted police to take action, Lawlor said. ``The value of this law is not so much that police will seize your guns,'' Lawlor said. ``It gives police a system to investigate a person who poses a threat. If the police never confiscate a person's guns, they can at least look into the person's behavior and perhaps prevent a tragedy by intervening.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread
[CTRL] South Florida: A Brief History
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.historical-museum.org/history/southfla.htm A HREF="http://www.historical-museum.org/history/southfla.htm"South Florida /A - Historical Museum of Southern Florida South Florida: A Brief History It wouldn't have been too surprising if Miami had been renamed "Flagler" at the incorporation meeting back in 1896, since it was in that year that the Florida East Coast Railway, owned by Henry Morrison Flagler, reached Miami. Before that time, most of the people in the area were homesteaders and the only "towns" were Coconut Grove and Lemon City. Persuaded by land offers from Julia Tuttle and William and Mary Brickell, which were accompanied by fresh orange blossoms to prove that Miami was frost-free, Flagler agreed to extend his railroad south from West Palm Beach, build a luxurious hotel, and lay out the city of Miami. John Sewell, who would later serve as Mayor of Miami, observed, "The Florida East Coast Railroad reached here the latter part of April, 1896, and the passenger trains were soon put on. Then it seemed that the flood gates were opened and people came from everywhere." Flagler kept his promise by also building the Royal Palm Hotel, constructing houses for workers, dredging a ship channel, and donating land for schools, churches and public buildings. When 368 voters incorporated the city on July 28, 1892, however, the name remained Miami. 1896 was not the first time the banks of the Miami River were the location of a community. Hundreds of years earlier, before Christopher columbus discovered the New World, the Tequesta Indians lived there. The first to appreciate South Florida's mild climate, the Tequestans lives simply. Abundant food supplied from the land and sea made agricultural activities unnecessary. In 1566, the Tequesta settlement was visited by Pedro Menendez de Aviles, his men, and Brother Francisco Villareal. One year earlier, Menendez had founded St. Augustine, the oldest city in the United States, and now came to Miami to establish a Jesuit mission. Within a few years it was abandoned and another attempt to Christianize the Tequestans was not made until 1743. That effort was also short-lived. During the more than two centuries that Florida was controlled by Spain, the Tequestans and other Prehistoric Indians of Florida were decimated by European diseases and warfare. The lands they vacated attracted people from several of the Creek tribes in Georgia and Alabama who had entered Florida as early as 1704. Collectively, they became known as Seminoles, and during the ninteenth century they would engage in a series of bloody wars against the United States partly to defend their right to live in Florida. After the conclusion of the Third Seminole War in 1858, the few hundred Indians remaining in the state lived in the Everglades. The first permanent white settlers in the Miami area arrived in the early 1800s. During the decades that followed, a wide variety of individuals left their mark on the history of this area. In the 1830s, statesman Richard Fitzpatrick from South Carolina operated, with slave labor, a successful plantation on the Miami River. He cultivated sugar cane, bananas, corn and tropical fruit. Major William S. Harney, in command at Ft. Dallas which was located on Fitzpatrick's Planatation on the north bank of the Miami River, led several raids against the Indians during the Second Seminole War (1835-1842). George Ferguson made $24,000 in 1850 by selling the comptie starch he manufactured in his mill farther up river. Carpetbagger William Gleason dominated Dade County politics during the Reconstruction Era. A few years later, Kirk Munroe, well known writer of books for boys, built a home in Coconut Grove. Many of the other settlers were homesteaders, attracted to the area by offers of 160 acres of free land by the federal government. And nearly everyone took an interest in the wrecking industry--the salvaging of cargo from ships wrecked on the Florida reefs. Those pioneer days, when the mail came once a week, travel was primarily by sailboat, children attended one-room schoolhouses, and the trading post was the lone store, ended with the arrival of Flagler's Florida East Coast Railway. Soon there were doctors and lawyers, shoe stores and hardware stores, electric lights and telephones. Beginning in 1896, blacks provided the primary labor force for the building of Miami. Restrictive clauses in land deeds confined blacks to the northwest section of Miami which became known as Colored Town. This community, today's Overtown, established its own stores and businesses, schools, churches, a hospital, library, newspaper, and social organizations. As was the case in the rest of the nation, Miami did not face segregation and civil rights issues until the decades following World War II. The outbreak of rioting in the spring of 1980 is evidence that the struggle for equal rights continues. As thousands of people moved to Miami in the early
[CTRL] FW: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
-Caveat Lector- Who rejected this post and why??? What happened to free speech, especially in this group?? Who is controlling speech here? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- Gold was what? 32 bux an ounce in 64, then went to 800 when? and then leveled out for a couple of decades at 300 or so which is inflation of magnitude well hidden...what a jokeoil is finite consumable...its use increases its value...gold values are all contrived but are the only thing trusted in the long run by the people who have been running the banking industry for centuries...again, safra, and the like. Safra banks only pay like 2-3% interest on money saved there, but those savings are backed with gold...they don't need to pay interest because the savings are guarded against all fluctuations and connivings within currencys, again, by gold. Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going?? Down. Gold's value continues to fall, as it generally has over the last 30-40 years. See the current price in US$ - track that price over the decades - factor in inflation - reach your own conclusion. Mine: gold is a sucker's bet. We heard about the bullion in E Timor, (assuming it is true) the reason why the UN is there, to get it out.. A not-very-thoughtful assumption, considering that the petroleum reserves in the Timor Sea are worth orders-of-magnitude MORE than any gold in East Timor. and there have been moves across the globe on the gold market.. Count the dollar amounts of those gold moves. Count the dollar amounts of the increase in petroleum prices [100%] this year, with OPEC enforcing production limits this year. Compare the amounts. Judge the significance yourself. My judgement: gold's value is minescule compared to oil's value. Are the banks pulling in their reserves for the coming run?.. or are they collecting in for the reps? Any big players 'collecting' gold right now must sure like its ornamental properties. Gold has some subjective value in jewelry, a very real value in electronics [your computer is filled with gold threads and coatings], and absolutely NO value in backing significant currencies. Where is it all going?..Germany? Switzerland? Antarctic or US? The crash is upon us and the big players are taking steps. And those steps are... ?? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science technologies if you think in the conventional framework. You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several reasons especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of dilution not one molecule of the physical substance remains. But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon. See MEMORY OF WATER page 26 for the second curve, which is Hahnemanns 'spirit essense" If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give yourslf a headache, get frustrated and never understand.. Loosen up your mind. ANTONY C SUTTON D Sc. etc DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Virus Detected; Did it come from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/regional/092799encephalitis.html September 27, 1999 With New Virus, Experts Suspect More Died of Encephalitis By DAVID BARSTOW Having discovered that they have most likely been looking for the wrong virus, public health officials are investigating whether as many as eight more people than previously reported have died in New York City's mysterious encephalitis outbreak. Until Sunday, local health officials had attributed 3 deaths to the epidemic, with 15 more people infected in New York City and Westchester County. The disease, they said, was St. Louis encephalitis. But now that additional laboratory tests have detected the presence of a different virus in some of those who died during the outbreak, officials are confronting the possibility that the scope of the epidemic may may be greater than they first thought. Dr. Neal L. Cohen, the New York City Health Commissioner, said Sunday that blood and spinal fluid samples from 77 people who tested negative for St. Louis encephalitis would now be re-examined for the new virus, identified as the West Nile virus, or a close variant known as the Kunjin virus. Seven of those 77 people later died, but their deaths were not publicly attributed to the epidemic because they had tested negative for St. Louis encephalitis, Dr. Cohen said. "It would have been irresponsible for us to give the public the perception that people that were dying who tested negative were related to this outbreak," he said. But that approach has changed now that tests have indicated the presence of the West Nile or Kunjin virus in one of the seven people who died after testing negative for St. Louis encephalitis. Kristine A. Smith, a spokeswoman for the State Department of Health, said Sunday that a total of eight deaths during the outbreak have been "associated with clinical encephalitis symptoms." Three of those deaths, she said, were reported to state officials late last week. "Now we know what to look for," Ms. Smith said. "We were looking for St. Louis encephalitis, and we weren't finding it. If we know exactly what we are looking for, it's going to be easier to find it." In all, Dr. Cohen said, city officials are now investigating whether the West Nile or Kunjin viruses were present in 11 of the people who died during the outbreak. He cautioned, however, that several of those deaths may not be related to encephalitis. Brain samples from seven people who died have been sent, or are en route, to the Emerging Diseases Laboratory at the University of California at Irvine, said W. Ian Lipkin, director of the center. This is the laboratory that last week first identified the virus as either the West Nile, found in Africa, or the Kunjin, found in Australia. Neither virus has ever been detected in the Western Hemisphere. Late on Friday, the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also detected a West Nile-like virus in brain tissue extracted from one person who died, confirming the initial results from the California lab. The C.D.C. has also detected the virus in dead birds found in the New York City region. Taken together, the findings have caused public health officials to revisit many of the same questions they were asking at the outset of the epidemic in August: Where did it come from? How widely has it spread? "The scope of the epidemic, we want to get as firm a grip on it was we can," Ms. Smith said. In a news conference Sunday, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani acknowledged that the health toll may turn out to be higher now that scientists are focusing on a different disease. "What we anticipate is over the next day or two they probably are going to reclassify a number of cases as Nile fever that previously had not been found to be St. Louis encephalitis," he said. "These are not new cases," he added. "These are reclassifications of old cases. And in most situations, the people have already been released from the hospital,
[CTRL] BARI case reinstated
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: *STRIDER* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Select List [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Bay_Area_Activist] BARI case reinstated Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:57:11 -0700 From: *STRIDER* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bari's case vs. police reinstated via Press Democrat http://www.pressdemo.com/ Sep. 25, 1999 By MIKE GENIELLA Press Democrat Staff Writer Breathing new life into a 1991 civil rights lawsuit filed by the late Earth First! organizer Judi Bari, a federal appeals court on Friday reinstated claims that Oakland police and the FBI conspired to falsely accuse the North Coast activist of responsibility for her own car bombing. A three-judge panel ruled that three Oakland police investigators along with several FBI agents aren't entitled to "qualified immunity," a liability exemption generally granted to law enforcement authorities in their routine handling of criminal investigations. In a 25-page opinion, justices agreed that an appeal filed in April by a legal team representing Bari and her co-defendant, Darryl Cherney, raises "a genuine issue of fact" as to whether police investigators Michael Sims, Robert Chenault and Michael Sitterud conspired to assist the FBI in interferring with the activists' political activities during a 1990 "Redwood Summer" of logging protests. The ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a lower court ruling granting law enforcement authorities the immunity. The judges said there's merit to the lawsuit's contentions that police investigators and FBI agents acted in concert to falsely portray Bari and Cherney as being responsible for the May 24, 1990, explosion in an Oakland neighborhood that blew up their car. Cherney was slightly injured, but Bari was left permanently disabled. Neither Oakland police representatives nor Karen Rodrigue, deputy city attorney for Oakland, could be reached Friday for comment on the ruling. Dennis Cunningham, Bari's and Cherney's San Francisco lawyer, said Friday's ruling could finally allow the Bari lawsuit to go to trial after eight years of skirmishing. "It was a major hurdle that we needed to clear, and we did," said Cunningham. Bari died in March 1997 from breast cancer. Cunningham said he believes the circuit court's swift review of the Bari appeal -- the case was argued and submitted on April 15 -- "suggests that the justices understand what's behind eight years of trial delay and stonewalling by police and the FBI." Cherney said Friday that the court ruling "is as significant for activists as recent revelations about the FBI and Waco." Justices said that, contrary to the lower court's opinion, sufficient circumstantial evidence exists to bolster Bari's claims that the police intended to inhibit Earth First! recruitment of college students and others for a summerlong series of logging demonstrations, and that police entered into a conspiracy with FBI agents "to further this goal." Among the specifics judges cited were "misinformation" and "omissions" from search warrant affidavits prepared by Oakland police after the bombing, and officers' apparent willingness to provide inaccurate information to the news media, "an act which is consistent with the desire to create a negative impression of Earth First! among the public." The court also said that after the car bombing, police insisted that they had relied on the FBI for an assessment of the crime scene, and identification of Bari and Cherney as "terrorists" who were responsible for their own bombing. But justices said Oakland police at the time in fact had a division responsible for monitoring Earth First!, and that the agency had cooperated with the FBI in looking into the group's activities prior to the bombing incident. Because police investigators acted in close cooperation with the FBI in planning and conducting their investigation into the car bombing, and publicly contributed misinformation about Bari and Cherney, the court found that it is likely the plaintiffs could show the existence of a conspiracy "implicit or explicit" between the police and FBI agents. Press Democrat http://www.pressdemo.com/ --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- - - Search /RENEGADE/ for articles on Judi Bari - http://fornits.com/renegade/peaars.cgi?JUDI Search /RENEGADE/ for articles on Earth First! - http://fornits.com/renegade/peaars.cgi?EF! Search /RENEGADE/ for articles on FBI - http://fornits.com/renegade/peaars.cgi?FBI
Re: [CTRL] FW: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Aol user wrote: Who rejected this post and why??? What happened to free speech, especially in this group?? Who is controlling speech here? I would guess the poster of the message had exceeded the 7-per-day limit this list imposes on everyone. Or the original poster sent it in utilizing an email address that isn't subscribed to the list. Obviously the speech was NOT 'controlled', as the post eventually got thru... As for the concept of 'freedom of speech', the 2nd amendment only applies to GOVERNMENT controlling speech, not private entities controlling it June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [2] The Birth of the City of Miami
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found2.htm A HREF="http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found2.htm"The Birth of Miami, Part 2 /A - The Birth of Miami, Part 2 "Flagler had decided to see this "freeze proof" section for himself. In late February 1895, the railroad baron traveled by special train to West Palm Beach before transferring to a launch for a trip down the Florida East Coast Line canal, which by this time was completed from Lake Worth to New River. The party spent the night in Fort Lauderdale, and left by carriage the next morning to travel to the northern shore of Biscayne Bay where they were met by Tuttle's launch and brought to Miami. Ingraham recalled that the day was beautiful and "that night was the most perfect moonlight that I have ever seen." Before bedtime, Mr. Flagler made the decision to accept the offers of Tuttle and Brickell, extend his railroad to Miami and build a resort hotel there. (25) The party returned to St. Augustine in early March with a verbal agreement to extend the railroad to Miami and to develop a city in that locale, but formal contracts had yet to be drawn up and signed. No official announcements were made at the time, although rumors over the meaning of the trip began to appear in the press. (26) The Titusville paper observed that, "Some optimists believe the railroad will be extended to deep water off Key Largo, others think a mammoth hotel will be constructed on Bay Biscayne." (27) From Sanford: "Flagler has decided to extend to Bay Biscayne and also he has purchased half of Key Largo." (28) The Jacksonville report noted that the natives of Bay Biscayne are "very much stirred up by the advent of the big millionaire's [visit]. It is generally supposed that this tour means the extension of the east coast line to Bay Biscayne." (29) Preliminary to drawing up a formal contract, Flagler wrote Tuttle a long letter on April 22, 1895, recapping her offer of land to him in exchange for his extension of the railroad to Miami, laying out a city and building a hotel. The terms, as they appeared in the letter, provided that Tuttle would award Flagler a 100-acre tract of land. The boundaries of this tract would stretch approximately from the bay on the east (at that time the shoreline ran along today's Biscayne Boulevard) to Southwest Third Avenue on the west, and from Southeast and Southwest First Street on the north to the Miami River on the south. Within this tract, a 13-acre parcel, on which Tuttle's home stood, was reserved as her "home lot." It was bounded by today's South Miami Avenue on the w est, Southeast Second Avenue on the east, Southeast Second Street on the north and the Miami River on the south. (30) The remainder of the Tuttle property at the Miami site would be divided between Flagler and Tuttle. Flagler professed in the letter that he would prefer to have his portion in a solid tract, but told Tuttle he would "agree to accept your ideas, viz: an equitable division by alternate lots." (31) Tuttle wisely inserted and stuck to this provision so that her lots would be as valuable as Flagler's as he laid out the streets and developed the town. The larger divided tract was bounded approximately by the Miami River on the south and southwest, Northeast and Northwest Eleventh Street on the north, Northwest Seventh Avenue on the west, and the Bay on the east. This offer would eventually be drawn up into a contract that was signed by Tuttle and Flagler dated October 24, 1895. (32) The April 1895 letter also mentioned that Flagler had sent a similar missive to William Brickell in reply to his offer for extending the railroad to Miami. Flagler said that Brickell was including 100 acres of land at New River; thus he felt justified in asking for the same from Tuttle. (33) Flagler's letter to Brickell, and the ensuing contract, have not survived, but from the course of events we can assume the offer was similar to that of Tuttle's. The Brickells would divide a portion of their property south of the Miami River with Flagler and, in turn, the industrialist would construct a bridge across the Miami River. As with the Tuttle tract, the property would be subdivided by alternate lots. The boundaries of this property were approximately South Miami Avenue on the east, Southwest and Northwest Eighth Avenue on the west, Southwest Fifteenth Road and Southwest Eleventh Street on the south, and the Miami River on the north. Also included was the New River land. The Brickells reserved their home lot at the mouth of the Miami River and all property between the bay and South Miami Avenue. (34) The Railroad Extension While the railroad's extension to Miami remained unannounced in the spring of 1895, rumors of this possibility continued to multiply, fueling real estate activity in the Biscayne Bay area at a time when land prices throughout the rest of Florida were
Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector- There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia over MONSANTO and its genetically modified seeds. US even used the ECHELON system to intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto. NSA denies this but they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability"). The press in the US has been mostly silent Gutless. This is a prime example of a transnational firm implementing New World Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through seeds and water. It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as firm, through revocation of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO. It is a narrow and specific target. Very vulnerable. Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place (Monsanto products) and infowar. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Mike Kathy Moxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] This earth could sustain 20 times the current population if managed properly. '' SM: Should we press those limits? What makes you think that if we can't curb our population voluntarily now that we could do it after a few more centuries' momentum of baby booming? You seem to be saying that we should max out and push the evelope as far as it will go. That IS flirting with our own doom and that is precisely my point. .. The problem is not overpopulation, it's greed, envy, poor management, worldwide socialism, multi-national corporations, globalists, and corrupt governments and people that is the problem. .. SM: There is not ONE problem. I get tired of hearing "THE problem is..." Greed is a problem, yes. Perhaps we can do something about it. Poor management is a problem, yes. Perhaps we can do something about that. Multi-national corporations would not be a problem if we subjected them to sane rules. As far as globalism is concerned, it is the globalization of power, as it is now wielded [in the hands of the few] that is the problem, not globalization itself. Everything we do has an affect on things around us. If we are going to abide by rules based on REALITY, we are going to have to admit that having clean air laws in one place does little good if we do not have clean air rules in all places. All of the things that we attempt to hold in check with laws [violence, pollution, slavery] do not adhere to national boundaries so we can do little to curb them by saying that such things are up to the individual jurisdictions of power mongers. Freedom to be happy and safe can be violated by freedoms of sovereignty. We must define what kinds of freedom we will champion because the word "freedom" is too vague. Am I a champion of freedom if I say that China or Nike should be "free" to do whatever it likes to the lowly person or the lowly community, free to dump its wastes in whatever low-income village it can find that is defenseless? Fair trade, right? As far as socialism is concerned [i.e. vs. capitalism], should everyone have a say in how resources are used or should it be only up to those with enough capital, and enough bloodthirstiness to amass such? Only those that hoard [or those that repeat words that have not thought through thoroughly] seem to be in favor of holding the earth in common. .. But for discussion sake, let's say overpopulation is fact. The only humane way to reduce the population in the numbers the psycho-pseudo-science sociopath elitists are calling for is an all volunteer system. One must of their own free will volunteer to be put to death. .. SM: So if one village decides to take far more than it can use, leaving another village to die, the latter is overstepping its bounds to demand to use what the other cannot? .. No one can be forced to surrender their lives for population control. However, it should be law that all Population Control Advocates MUST volunteer to be put to death. .. SM: No need to be so dramatic. No one is saying put everyone to death. I, on the other hand, AM for making having a lot of children a legal issue. Not very Catholic of me, I'm sure. On the other hand, a child born in the United States consumes as much as 800 times as much as a child born in some other parts of the world. I'll bet we can make a big dent in the rapidity of resource diminishment by merely stressing simplicity over novelty. The more hooked we are on the novel, the more new and better and bigger things must be produced. .. And they MUST die first. Then all others that would volunteer. This would show leadership by example, and would also save the Population Control Advocates from being the hypocrites that they would be if they refused to volunteer. Anything else would be unfair. .. SM: So is it fair that those who choose to have many children or to use vast amounts of resources should endanger the livelihood or everyone else? Is it unfair to put a stop to unfairness? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy
Re: [CTRL] Chaos Magick amp; Paradigmal Piracy
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos magicians may practice the techniques of chaos magick but they must do so within a specific paradigm, which roughly means that a chaos magician must believe in something in order to obtain resultsChaos magicians are Setians, Satanists, Santeros, Sorcerers, Kitchen Witches, Thelemites, Cabalists, etc. etc. .. SM: Magick is defined as manifesting situations in accordance with the will. This is the most popular definition among actual magicians and as a result you can see that there are millions of people that fit into the definition of magicians, according to magicians. For instance, the US goverment does not get its way in the world by kicking everyone's ass that disobeys. It gets its way from most people and this happens because when the US DOES kick someone's ass, it is highly publicized and very dramatic. This scares most into obeying even though, theoretically, the US does not have the capability of truly ENFORCING its will in all the places that it counts on as its puppets. It is no different than seeing how many people are afraid of the dark. Most of these people will NEVER experience something menacing and evil coming out of the dark but because it has been drilled into their heads by media magicians [producers and directors]they will always have something to fear. There will always be darkness and as a result, people will always be afraid [as long as this brainwashing continues], therefore people will always be easily manipulated. This situation is called by policing bodies "maintaining a threat." It is the THREAT of reprisal that keeps most in line, not incessant reprisal itself. This is a psychological head game and most psychological head games are forms of magick. In this case the magicians are media spin doctors. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ..standing up to [Marxist] teacher unions.
-Caveat Lector- It seems that those that fear that Karl Marx's legacy lurks around the corner in the shadows usually portray ANY union as Marxist. In fact, one common pattern I have found in those that rail against socialist ideas [even though most don't even understand them] is that they usually are threatened by ANY group that holds things in common and/or strives to achieve any kind of group consciousness. Such things are far too social for the anti-social mindsets of the rugged individual, the hero that stands alone in a field of vanquished foes, the deluded person that is convinced, at least on a subconscious level, that he/she is going to be the hero somehow; this is the same person that is firmly under the grip of the media because his/her ego has grown to the point that a red cape waved in front of him/her can lead such a bull straight into a pit filled with snakes. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Why Things Are the Way They Are
-Caveat Lector- Railroad Gauge The US Standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England, and the US railroads were built by English expatriates. Why did the English people build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used. Why did "they" use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing. Okay! Why did the wagons use that odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing the wagons would break on some of the old, long distance roads, because that's the spacing of the old wheel ruts. So, who built these old rutted roads? The first long distance roads in Europe were built by Imperial Rome for the benefit of their legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts? The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots. Since the chariots were made for, or by, Imperial Rome, they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Thus, we have the answer to the original question. The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original specification for an Imperial Roman army war chariot. Specs and Bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman chariots were made to be just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war horses. Now the twist to the story There's an interesting extension of the story about railroad gauge and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on the launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are the solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol, at a factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line to the factory runs through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than a railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses' behinds. So, a major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined by the width of a horse's ass! I am sure that a lot of what we do is controlled by similar thinking! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Questioning Chemotherapy
-Caveat Lector- I haven't read it yet, but Johnathen Eisen recommends it, so I'll get around to it eventually. Gavin. Questioning Chemotherapy : A Critique of the Use of Toxic Drugs in the Treatment of Cancer by Ralph W. Moss List Price: $19.95 Our Price: $15.96 You Save: $3.99 (20%) Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. Paperback - 208 pages (July 1995) Equinox Pr; ISBN: 188102525X ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.57 x 8.43 x 5.48 Amazon.com Sales Rank: 27,545 Avg. Customer Review: Number of Reviews: 2 -- -- Write an online review and share your thoughts with other readers! Customers who bought this book also bought: Cancer Therapy : The Independent Consumer's Guide to Non-Toxic Treatment and Prevention; Ralph W. Moss The Cancer Industry : The Classic Expose on the Cancer Establishment; Ralph W. Moss Herbs Against Cancer : History and Controversy; Ralph W. Moss Alternative Medicine Online : A Guide to Natural Remedies on the Internet; Ralph W. Moss Click here for more suggestions... -- -- Reviews From the Author Hi! I'm Ralph Moss, author of Questioning Chemotherapy. I want to tell you how and why I came to write this book. I started as a believer in chemotherapy. As a science writer at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, I wrote articles praising the latest advances in chemotherapy. I was impressed by the then-emerging cures for Hodgkin's disease, acute lymphocytic leukemia and some other relatively rare cancers. At the same time, I began to learn how skeptical many good scientists were about chemotherapy's future. The major objection to "chemo" was that these drugs did not discriminate between normal and cancerous cells, but attacked all rapidly dividing cells . One scientist described this method as "trying to melt a patient's left ear , while leaving the right one alone." It seemed particularly inappropriate in the treatment of solid tumors of adults, which are often slow-growing. Because chemotherapy drugs were general cellular poisons, they could be terribly toxic. They were also very expensive for patients and for society as a whole. When I learned about the links between the pharmaceutical industry and the cancer establishment (later detailed in my book, The Cance r Industry) I understood the commercial reason that such an inadequate modality was so heavily promoted. In 1989, a German biostatistician named Ulrich Abel, Ph.D. published a groundbreaking monograph called "Chemotherapy of Advanced Epithelial Cancer. It made few waves in the U.S. and soon went out of print. In this excellent work, however, Dr. Abel rigorously demonstrated that chemotherapy had never been scientifically proven to extend life through randomized clinical trials (RCTs) in the vast majority of "epithelial cancers." These are the common types of carcinoma that affect most cancer patients in the Western world. Some years later, in response to many requests, I decided to write a critical book about chemotherapy (a sort of companion piece to Cancer Therapy). I took Abel's out-of-print work as my starting point, but also consulted the work of many other students of chemotherapy. In this book, I update statistics and speak about all cancers and not just carcinomas. I go into depth on the politics and economics of the chemotherapy industry, on the biases, fallacies and frauds that occur, and on ways of warding off the sometimes catastrophic side effects that accompany this treatment. The essential point of the book is that one must question the measure of success in chemotherapy. Oncologists have tended to equate an increasing percentage of "responses" with progress. However, responses are generally measurements of tumor shrinkage, for as little as one month's duration. One cannot automatically assume that a response--even a complete response--will lead to increased survival. One must look for increased survival. Yet the number of cancers for which life prolongation through chemotherapy has been proven through randomized clinical trials is very small. (I do bend over backwards to point these out, when they occur.) So when a doctor says her regimen yields a 40 percent response rate, "what exactly is she promising? A short-term shrinkage of tumors--or actual life-prolongation? What effect is this treatment likely to have on the patient's quality of life? And what is the cost?" It is only by obtaining information such as this that patients are able to make rational treatment choices. Questioning Chemotherapy is intended to help patients by providing them with a critical perspective on this now dominant modality. -- -- Customer Comments Average Customer Review: Number of Reviews: 2 A reader from Santa Cruz, California , January 19, 1999 Every patient diagnosed
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science technologies if you think in the conventional framework. Ah, so we have to stop demanding that they be demonstrably effective? You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space We already live in 4-space - it's called space-time. Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several reasons especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of dilution not one molecule of the physical substance remains. Yes, it's hard for non-existant stuff to work. But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon. Posit whatever you will, but demonstrate 1) the existence of what you've posited and 2) the validity of your claims. But the theoretical basis of homeopathy is irrelevant if it doesn't work. If it worked, it would be exploited commercially on a mass- industrial basis. Major drug firms would squeeze every possible dollar out of it. As it is, homeopathy is well-marketed to the credulous, and works about as well as any placebo can be expected to. But if SKF Beecham and CibaGeigy et al can't find effective uses for homeopathic preparations, why should I trust a clerk at a GNC assuring me that their green goo is good? Like I said, next time you get cholera, see a homeopath. See MEMORY OF WATER page 26 for the second curve, which is Hahnemanns 'spirit essense" Ah, "spirit essense" - to claim it, and to establish it, are rather different endeavors. Demonstrate the existence of 'spirits', then demonstrate that water has 'spirit', then show that water has a "spirit essense" and 'memory', then produce independent replication of these experiments, and I'll start to take such claims seriously. If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give yourslf a headache, get frustrated and never understand.. Homeopathy is based on a doctrine. Doctrines suck. Science is based on the rigorous testing of ideas - doctrines tend to fade away under such scrutiny. Science WILL give you a headache, but it works. Doctrines will soothe your mind, but won't lead you to fruitful discoveries. Bother. Loosen up your mind. Tighten up your standards. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia K Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, but this begs for the old saw "Well, it certainly deters ONE person !" Zap everybody - then we're ALL deterred. Hey, it'll work. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Makes me think about golden seal root. For quite some time it was the only thing on the market that would beat a urinalysis test. Can't see the placebo in that. If you've taken enough goldenseal to beat urinalysis, then you've taken far more than a 'homeopathic' preparation. In homeopathy, the 'active' substance is diluted until there's nothing left. Eating herbs isn't homeopathy, it's herbology. Yes, many herbs/plants/fungi/etc contain potent chemicals - aspirin is derived from willow bark, penicillin from a mold, LSD from a fungus and a plant family. But we use those compounds in physiologically-active quantities, not the in ghostly dilutions of homeopathy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 9/26/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson from Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut We watched the Laboratory's receptionist turn on the many educational exhibits that lined the foyer's walls. The receptionist was a tall, thin girl--icy, pale. At her crisp touch, lights twinkled, wheels turned, flasks bubbled, bells rang. "Magic," declared Miss Petko. "I'm sorry to hear a member of the Laboratory family using that brackish, medieval word," said Dr. Breed. "Every one of those exhibits explains itself. They're designed so as not to be mystifying. They're the very antithesis of magic." "The very what of magic?" "The exact opposite of magic." "You couldn't prove it by me." Dr. Breed looked just a little peeved. "Well," he said, "we don't want to mystify. At least give us credit for that." = US Stockmarket Greenspan's Bubble God is dead. WHEN The Economist described Americas economy as a bubble in April 1998 and advised Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserves chairman, to raise interest rates to pop it, many people dismissed our warnings. Today, the Dow is even higher than it was, the economy is enjoying robust growth and the core rate of consumer-price inflation has fallen to a 33-year low. So were we wrong? Sorry to be party-poopers, but Americas economy still looks horribly bubble-like. A drop in share prices this week, as central bankers and finance ministers gathered for the annual meetings of the IMF and the World Bank, was a timely reminder that a collapse on Wall Street remains the biggest threat to the world economy. Not convinced? Consider the three most common criticisms of the idea that there is a financial bubble. First, it is argued, higher share prices are justified by improved fundamentals. In a month that has seen the publication of three books with progressively ambitious titlesDow 36,000, Dow 40,000 and Dow 100,000it seems churlish to quibble. But the climb in share prices over the past year proves neither that the market is correctly valued nor that the bubble is a figment of our imagination. History shows that markets do overshoot and that bubbles can persist for some timeindeed, that is their nature. It also shows that the bigger a bubble gets, the greater the excesses it creates in the economyand the bigger the bang when it eventually pops. It is, in truth, impossible to know whether share prices are overvalued right now. But over the past year or so, evidence of a bubble has mounted with every sign of excess elsewhere in the economy. Households and firms are on a borrowing spree. The private sectors financial deficit has risen to an unprecedented 5% of GDP (in the previous 50 years it has never exceeded 1%). Money-supply growth is rapid. And Americas current-account deficit is heading for a record 4% of GDP this year. These are all classic symptoms of a bubble. When assets become liabilities What about the second objection: that even if shares are overvalued, why should the Fed worry? Americas inflation rate is low, so there seems no case for higher interest rates. But inflation has been held down by many one-off factorssuch as a strong dollar and, thanks to weak demand in the rest of the world, low commodity and import priceswhich may already be going into reverse. But more important, central banks should not ignore another sort of inflation: in the prices of assets, such as shares and property. Our survey of the world economy in this weeks issue argues that many central banks have focused too narrowly on consumer-price inflation. Excessive rises in asset prices can be as dangerous as conventional inflation. Sudden surges in wealth can, for example, encourage excessive borrowing, which, when borrowers are forced to readjust their finances, can cause a painful hard landing. In its latest World Economic Outlook, published this week, the IMF argues that conventional inflation can sometimes be a poor gauge of whether an economy is overheating, and urges central banks to pay more attention to other signs of imbalance, such as rising asset prices, rapid credit growth, private-sector financial deficits and current-account deficits. The IMF suggests that overheating in asset markets may call for monetary tightening not only when it threatens an increase in product-price inflation, but also when asset prices increase to unsustainable levels that threaten to destabilise the economy. This does not mean that the Fed should adopt a target for the Dow. But it should take more account of the impact of asset prices on the economy. Mr Greenspan has worried long and hard about share prices since his irrational exuberance speech in December 1996, but he seems to have concluded that there was nothing he could do. Why? Partly, perhaps, because of the third popular criticism of our bubble thesis:
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Central Banks agree to gold sale ban
- SNETNEWS Mailing List What gives here, with this 180 degree reversal? Gold is up $20 in just a week's time, and still rising. Looks like the short sellers suddenly can't get their hands on enough real gold instead of paper. So, last month the word was that gold was of no real value and therefore the central banks would sell their stocks. This month there seems to have been a change of heart, and what a change, fifteen central European banks agreeing to a five year moratorium. Whoo boy, if I was one of those gold mining companies who sold futures contracts to lock in the depressed price I might be a little angry if the price now decides to go up some more. Cheers, AGF Central banks agree to gold sales ban By Alan Beattie and Stephen Fidler in Washington Fifteen European central banks including the Bank of England last night announced a surprise five-year moratorium on all new sales of gold held in official reserves. The move was organised by the G-10 group of central bankers, chaired by Eddie George, governor of the Bank of England, and was announced by Wim Duisenberg, European Central Bank president, who is attending the annual International Monetary Fund annual meeting in Washington. http://www.ft.com/hippocampus/q181e86.htm - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Bob Bartch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] [1] The Birth of the City of Miami
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found1.htm A HREF="http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found1.htm"The Birth of Miami /A- The Birth of the City of Miami by Larry Wiggins Contents 1.Biscayne Bay Country 2.The Railroad to Miami 3.Incorporation 4.Endnotes Just over one hundred years ago, in 1895, three stubborn visionaries came together to create Miami and, in doing so, open all of then-pristine South Florida to development. The Tuttle and Brickell families possessed land. Henry M. Flagler owned a railroad and possessed the capital to transform the land from a wilderness into a city. The partnership between them was at times adversarial, the consequences sometimes disappointing, but the resulting Magic City would, over the next century, grow into something greater than they could have ever imagined. The Brickell family, consisting of William, his wife Mary, and eight adult children ranging in age from 18 to 38, lived on the south bank of the mouth of the Miami River where they operated a trading post and post office. They arrived in 1871 from Cleveland and purchased a vast stretch of land that extended from the banks of the river south to near today's Coconut Grove. They also owned property on the north side of the New River in today's Fort Lauderdale. (1) Julia Tuttle Julia Tuttle and her children, Harry and Fanny, lived across the river from the Brickells. Tuttle, who came to Miami in 1891 after purchasing a tract of 640 acres of land on the north bank of the Miami River, was also from Cleveland. Tuttle's husband, Frederick, died in 1886, and she decided to move to South Florida due to what was described as the "delicate health" of her children. Tuttle had seen the area in 1875, at the age of twenty-six, when she visited her father, Ephraim Sturtevant, who homesteaded in the area of today's Miami Shores. Sturtevant had been a friend of Brickell in Cleveland until a disagreement brought the friendship to a halt. (2) The Miami area, in the years leading up to the railroad's arrival, was better known as "Biscayne Bay Country." The only overland transportation to the area was by a hack (or stagecoach) line that ran from Lantana on the southern end of Lake Worth to Lemon City on Biscayne Bay. The few published accounts from that period describe the area as a wilderness that held much promise. (3) Lying five miles north of the Miami River, Lemon City could boast of only fifteen buildings in 1893. However, many homesteaders had settled on land up to five miles away from the core of the settlements. One of these buildings was a new hotel that could accommodate twenty-five to thirty guests. Two miles south were several people living in Buena Vista. "Cocoanut Grove" (as it was spelled then) sat ... south of the Miami River; it contained twenty-eight buildings "of a very neat and tasteful character," two large stores doing an "immense business," and a hotel run by Charles and Isabella Peacock. Cutler, eight miles south of Cocoanut Grove, also contained a few settlers. (4) But the jewel on Biscayne Bay was Miami. The site where the Miami River emptied into the bay was described as the cream of the property in the area. There was rich, heavy hammock growth, and to the south, on the Brickell lands, a high, rocky bluff, which was characterized as "one of the finest building sites in Florida." (5) The Tuttles lived in a large home that had been in use when Fort Dallas occupied the spot at the time of the Indian wars of the mid-nineteenth century. Julia Tuttle repaired and converted the home into one of the show places in the area. (6) It possessed a wide porch on the second story that provided a sweeping view of the river and the bay. The bay itself was a favorite resort for wealthy yachtsmen who came to the area in the winter for fishing and cruising. (7) Henry Flagler and His Railroad Flagler's biographers debate just when he first planned to extend his railroad south to Miami and eventually on to Key West. Perhaps no one but Flagler ever will know, although correspondence related to this matter dates to the early 1890s. However, the point in time when the decision actually was made to begin extending the railroad south from West Palm Beach can be ascertained as February 1895. (8) Flagler, who earlier had achieved great wealth in partnership with John D. Rockefeller in Standard Oil, had been developing the east coast of Florida, beginning in St. Augustine in 1885, either through new construction or through the purchase of existing hotels and railroads, which were then upgraded. Every few years, Flagler extended his railroad farther south. Flagler became associated with the Florida Coast Line Canal Transportation Company (FCLCTC) in 1893 because of the advantages it held for his railroad. (9) The canal company,
Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards
-Caveat Lector- thats a case of reductio tot absudium. The equivalent counter argument is that sinc punishment doesnt deter, then you should close all the prisons and do away with the police force. John -Original Message- From: Ric Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 September 1999 03:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia K Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, but this begs for the old saw "Well, it certainly deters ONE person !" Zap everybody - then we're ALL deterred. Hey, it'll work. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards
-Caveat Lector- How about "remove the evil from among you?" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] All Washed Up
From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED] The New York Times Magazine September 26, 1999 THE WAY WE LIVE NOW SALIENT FACTS: MONEY LAUNDERING All Washed Up The headlines say Russian crooks are laundering money through American banks, but what exactly does that mean? By TIMOTHY L. O'BRIEN JUST HOW DO YOU LAUNDER MONEY? By moving the proceeds of criminal activities drug deals, corporate embezzlement, political graft, arms trafficking and the like through a maze of banking and brokerage accounts in order to disguise their origins. As recently as the 1980's, prospective launderers had to pack bundles of cash onto planes or send small amounts via courier. But now, using the electronic financial networks that link much of the world, launderers in Moscow, for example, can simply tap on a computer keyboard and zap their digital money to New York. A few more keystrokes and the money can be winging toward Antigua. DOING THAT ENOUGH WILL THROW INVESTIGATORS OFF THE SCENT? Yes, partly. Each additional transfer makes an investigation more difficult. And often the money winds up in a seemingly legitimate business. A furniture maker, for example, in cahoots with a crooked buyer, might sell $20,000 worth of couches for $200,000. The outrageously padded receipt from that transaction makes the $180,000 of dirty money seem like profits from a law-abiding enterprise. CAN ANYONE GET IN ON THE ACTION? Hard-core money laundering requires a lot of cash because each time you move the money, banks charge a small fee, which adds up. Don't feel shut out of the club, though. Anyone can fly to the Bahamas with a pot of cash and open an account XYZ Inc. with one of Nassau's many friendly tax shelters. Then get a credit card issued in XYZ's name and use it to shop, eat and party around the world all on XYZ's tab. If anyone starts trying to figure out why XYZ is being so generous with you, your reps in the Bahamas can easily shut them out, unless there is hard evidence of illicit activities. HOW DOES ANYONE EVER GET CAUGHT? With nearly $4 trillion that's right, $4 trillion passing through global electronic banking networks each day, getting caught usually requires bad luck. Big sums, like the billions that investigators believe the Russians have washed through the Bank of New York, are theoretically easier to trace, but when there's that much money at stake, bank officials might play dumb. And prosecuting even the strongest case usually requires the cooperation of other countries, which often prefer to avoid the intrusion and all the embarrassing headlines and inconveniences. Moreover, there are only seven foreign crimes that can trigger a money-laundering investigation in the United States bombings, robbery, murder, drug sales, bank fraud, kidnapping and extortion. Other nefarious deeds stock manipulation, for example don't yet meet the money-laundering smell test. THEN WHY LAUNDER THROUGH UNITED STATES BANKS? The dollar is, indeed, almighty these days. Businesses and governments around the globe have a strong preference for trading in greenbacks, and United States banks have an unsurpassed global reach. A bank in Moscow and a bank in Antigua might be too suspicious of one another to do business together, but if an American firm steps into the middle of the transaction, everybody's happy to deal. So, paradoxically, it's the rock-solid reputation of the dollar that exposes American financial institutions, especially ones that are greedy or unscrupulous, to humiliating spectacles like the current Bank of New York investigation. Copyright 1999 The New York Times Company --- ONElist Sponsor Share your special moments with family and friends- send PHOTO Greetings at Zing.com! Use your own photos or choose from a variety of funny, cute, cool and animated cards. a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/zing14 "Click Here/a
[CTRL] Fwd: THE SCOOP: Buchanan, Seagal, Stallone
The Scoop - http://www.bobharris.com/ New subscribers: thanks for joining. Yes, the column is free, and youre encouraged to forward it to friends. Thats how our readership grows. Gratuitous plug: Steal This Book And Get Life Without Parole is now available. Youll get the best price by ordering directly from http://www.commoncouragepress.com/steal.html. Our long national weird-attachment-to-email nightmare is over. The only people receiving attachments now should be users of AOL, which apparently converts longer articles directly into attachments -- one of many inconveniences AOL software provides. Thanks! bh THE SCOOP for September 27, 1999 ___ Pat Buchanan, Steven Seagal, and Sylvester Stallone: Why, Of The Three, Pat Is By Far The Scariest © 1999 Bob Harris http://www.bobharris.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * = italics In his new book, *A Republic, Not An Empire,* Pat Buchanan says that Britain and France were wrong to go to war with Germany in 1939. He also says that Hitler was not a threat to the United States. This is news? Pat Buchanan says a lot of things. All of this is on the record: Pat has called Holocaust survivors' memories "group fantasies of martyrdom." Pat calls the U.S. Congress "Israeli-occupied territory," complaining that foreign policy is dominated by Jews. Pat complained recently that there are too many Jews and Asians at Ivy League schools. Pat wrote the section of Ronald Reagan's speech at Bitburg, the cemetery in which Nazi SS troops were buried, calling the Nazi soldiers "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps." Pat has written, along with those who deny the Holocaust ever happened, that carbon monoxide from diesel engines could not have killed 850,000 Jews at Treblinka. Pat has called for closing the Justice Department office that prosecutes Nazi war criminals. Pat says Hitler himself was "an individual of great courage" and "extraordinary gifts," even "a soldier's soldier," in spite of his genocidal habits. Pat thinks illegal immigrants ought to be deported except for John Demjanjuk, the accused Nazi guard who admittedly entered America illegally in 1952. Pat has also argued against the deportation of Estonian war criminal Karl Linnas and for restoring the U.S. citizenship of Nazi scientist Arthur Rudolph. In his autobiography, among Pat's heroes are the "soldier-patriots" Francisco Franco and Augusto Pinochet. Franco was the dictator of Spain. Pinochet was the dictator of Chile. Both overthrew democracies and suppressed dissent with violence, using anti-communism as a rationale. On the subject of democracy itself, Pat says that "like all idolatries, democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process for a love of country" and that "if the people are corrupt, the more democracy, the worse the government." Pat once said that sanctions against South Africa were "destroying the [region's] one working economy because it doesn't adopt an idiotic 'One man, one vote' regimen." Regarding apartheid, Pat even questioned that "white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong. Where did we get that idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this." Pat called Dr. Martin Luther King "one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." He also wrote a memo to Nixon saying that integration would result in "perpetual friction, as the incapable are placed consciously by government side by side with the capable." On homosexuality, Pat has written "its rise almost always is accompanied, as in the [pre-Hitler] Weimar Republic, with a decay of society." Pat has also written that "homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide" and that "AIDS is nature's retribution for violating the laws of nature." See? Pat Buchanan says a lot of things. Pat even told CNN last week that "there's not a trace of bigotry in my heart." The people who know Pat best think otherwise. William Buckley, Pat's longtime friend and mentor, once wrote a 20,000-word essay concluding it was "impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge" of anti-Semitism. William Safire, a colleague of Pat's from both the Nixon White House and a lifetime of punditry, has essentially concurred. Alan Keyes has angrily confronted Buchanan staffers for appealing to racism. William Bennett has described Pat's politics as "flirting with fascism." And now Sen. John McCain concludes that Pat Buchanan's views are somewhat outside the mainstream. This is news? What should be news is how few other mainstream figures are willing to do the same. (Much of the above is collected from Fairness Accuracy In Reporting's large compendium of Pat Buchanan's scary whoppers at http://www.fair.org/current/buchanan-bigot.html.) ___ As regular readers know, I live in West Hollywood and on the fringe of bigtime show business. Which is a lot like living next door to Disneyland, although the
[CTRL] A Different Twist on Spin
-Caveat Lector- From NewDawnMagazine http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/56b.htm The Public Relations of Modern Warfare Will the Real Nazis Please Stand Up! By SUSAN BRYCE For the last seven months we have been fed a diet of propaganda the public relations of modern warfare about Kosovo, that distant and foreign land, a province of Yugoslavia but now a protectorate of the allied forces. A land where people white people, doctors, lawyers and scientists are being ethnically cleansed by a butchering modern day Hitler. So far, the PR campaign (the spin as opposed to the facts) goes something like this . Ethnic cleansing practiced by Slobodan Milosevic is systematic and brutal, like the extermination of Jews in Nazi Germany. Representing the people of the free, democratic world, America has responded to this grave humanitarian tragedy in a timely and appropriate manner. With NATO, America has lead an effort to end the suffering and misery of ethnic Albanians, their torment and distress cannot be allowed to continue in the civilised 20th century! The air strikes, and the capitulation of President Milosevic, has proven that the standards and principles of the free world can triumph over evil. NATO can look proudly upon its achievements in Kosovo, where Operation Joint Guardian will bring peace and a new humanism to the once war torn province. On the dawn of the 21st century, we will continue to work with our partners towards the goal of a world that is safe for all peoples, under the guiding hand of the United Nations .. In the final conflicts of the 20th century, public relations has become the politically correct term for propaganda, and while hundreds of noteworthy conflicts are being fought around the globe, NATO and US public relations experts have selectively focused our attention upon the regime in Yugoslavia, and its leader, "that butchering modern day Hitler, Slobodan Milosevic." The tactic of comparing the enemies of the US to Hitler, is tried and true. The Bush administration used it on Saddam Hussein, and before that, they tied the Nazi fanatic with various Latin American dictators. During the 1989 invasion of Panama, American soldiers showed reporters Hitlers portrait hanging in Manuel Noriegas home a US Army colonel later admitted psychological warfare experts had planted the Fuhrers portrait and a voodoo altar shown to TV cameras. The ghost of Adolf Hitler has been given a thorough airing in the Yugoslav crisis. The great irony is that those who condemn Milosevic as a modern day Hitler, are themselves using the propaganda techniques that were refined and employed by the Nazis during World War Two. "Propaganda is a weapon, and a frightful one in the right hands", said Adolf Hitler, in Mein Kampf. Explaining how this weapon could be employed to win the hearts and minds of the masses, Hitler said propaganda must be limited to a very few points and a slogan, which must be harped upon until the last member of the public understands the point being made. The war in Yugoslavia has been defined by two rallying cries the slogan ethnic cleansing, and the mantra, humanitarian crisis. In the mobilisation of public opinion behind the bombing of Yugoslavia, the Clinton administration endlessly repeated the phrase, ethnic cleansing and NATO dwelled upon the fact that the only way to eliminate this "systematic, and methodical policy" within Kosovo, was by endless days of carpet bombing. The principal value of the phrase ethnic cleansing is that it conjures up the image of Nazi Germany. The ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, NATO argued, was the 1990s version of the Holocaust, while all of Serbia was compared to Nazi Germany. Humanitarian crisis, on the other hand, is something that the US, the UK and NATO helped to create by escalating a serious situation to catastrophic proportions. The bombings undermined, and maybe permanently destroyed, a promising democratic movement in Belgrade, which was the best hope of getting rid of Milosevic. Further, US/NATO actions have caused considerable disruption and danger in surrounding areas, including the Yugoslavia republic of Montenegro and also Macedonia. Up until the US/NATO bombing on March 24th, there had been, according to NATO, 2000 people killed on all sides, and a couple of hundred thousand refugees indeed, a humanitarian crisis, but also the type of crisis happening all over the world. It would be an understatement to say ethnic cleansing is a tragedy, but it is happening, on an equal to or greater extent, in other parts of the world as well as Kosovo. For example, the crisis in Kosovo is numerically identical to the US State Department figures last year which showed Colombia with 300,000 refugees and two or three thousand people killed. Hitler said that harping upon "very few points", would call the masses attention to certain facts, processes
[CTRL] Fwd: USAF Trains Chinese Air Force - Visits Edwards AFB May 99
Newly declassified documents from the Clinton administration reveal that a civil airline modernization program for China was actually a program to train and equip the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The new documents, forced from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) by the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), are official USAF, Commerce and FAA reports on Chinese military contacts. According to the documents, PLAAF officers toured Edwards Air Force Base in May 1999 for military purposes. The PLAAF officers were given training on USAF combat missions, including "bombing and strafing" and "combat readiness." In 1994, then Secretary of Defense William Perry began a "Joint Defense" conversion project with Chinese General Ding Henggao. General Ding was the commander of the Chinese Army Unit "COSTIND" (Commission on Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense). One part of the U.S./China project was to modernize the communist civil "Air Traffic Control" (ATC) system. The documented meetings shows that the Clinton administration attempted to conceal the military background of the Chinese representatives from everyone, including FAA officials. In 1993, a Chinese military delegation visited America. Yet, according the FAA, which sponsored the visit, the entire delegation was civilian. The 1993 FAA delegation list includes a "Mr. Kui Fulin" who toured FAA Headquarters in Washington, Andrews AFB in Maryland, and Boeing aircraft Corporation in Washington state. "Mr. Kui Fulin" was actually General Kui Fulin, Chinese Army Deputy Chief of the General Staff. The 1993 FAA list states "Mr. Li Yongtai" was the Commissioner of the Air Traffic Control Commission of China. According to hand written notes taken by the FAA, Mr. Li Yongtai was actually "Lt. General" Li Yongtai of the Chinese Air Force. In fact, FAA officials who attending the meeting wrote "military" next to the names of seven members of the 1993 "China Air Traffic Control" delegation in an apparent effort to track the Chinese Army officers. Another example shows that a "Mr. Li Zhongli" was part of a Chinese civilian delegation visit in 1997 to San Francisco that was sponsored by Stanford University. "Mr. Li Zhongli" was actually Colonel Li Zhongli of the PLAAF. In 1997, the PLAAF was given a demonstration in Sunnyvale California by Ashtech, a maker of GPS (Global Positioning Satellite) receivers. The briefing for the PLAAF and Chinese Navy officers states, "Ashtech produces a receiver that uses both the U.S. GPS signals and the Russian GLONASS signals resulting in significantly greater availability and integrity." According to a 1997 Rand Corp. report on the Chinese Defense Industry, "More accurate GPS systems would enhance the PLA's ability to carry out attacks against Taiwan's military and industrial facilities, potentially reducing the ability of the Taiwanese military to defend itself against PRC coercive diplomacy. The use of GPS to enhance the accuracy of long-range Chinese cruise missiles, coupled with long-range sensors, would raise serious concerns for the U.S. Seventh Fleet in the Pacific, and possibly circumscribe their ability to provide an effective deterrent in a crisis over Taiwan." In 1999, the Clinton administration offered the PLAAF the latest in advanced "mobile radars", command and control systems, GPS navigation, and "Surveillance Avionics" such as "Air to Air", "Air to Ground" and "surface Area Movement" surveillance radars. According to a U.S. Air Force May 1999 report, the PLAAF was given details on USAF "Special Airspace" areas inside America used for military training, research and national security zones. The details include Edwards Air Force base and a mapped tour of the facility. Edwards AFB is a test center for USAF, and NASA research aircraft, including the space shuttle. The newly released materials also include training manuals from the USAF 334th Training Squadron in both english and Chinese. The documents show Clinton administration officials proposed to train PLAAF military air controllers. The USAF documents show PLAAF officers were given a "simulated" training mission. The training included a "two ship formation of F-16s from Luke AFB, Arizona" on a "bombing" and overflight mission in a training area, code-named "Baghdad", northwest of Prescott Arizona. The simulated exercise also included "in-flight refueling" with a tanker aircraft under control of a USAF AWACs plane. The USAF "AWACS" (airborne warning and control system) is a flying radar plane manned by Air Force radar controllers. The Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft provided cover and control for thousands of allied aircraft during the Gulf war and again during the operation in Kosovo. AWACs aircraft are expensive and only a few Boeing E-3 Sentry aircraft have been exported to Saudi Arabia and NATO. The PLAAF is not currently equipped with an airborne radar control plane nor an airborne refueling tanker
Re: [CTRL] Waco post
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/27/99 7:25:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And since when would these agencies be the proper ones to be dealing with child abuse in the first place! I do not think that would fall under the jurisdiction of BATF and Delta Force even IF it had been occurring. Amelia Of course you are correct. It was merely further last minute attempts by the government to throw suspicion off of them and onto the Davidians. There would be absolutely no justification for the BATF to be involved in cases of child molestation, etc. It was a propaganda device solely to throw the accusing finger back pointing at the "nefarious" BD's, and off of the saintly BATF who were just there "to save the children", after all. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- l, Of course they have to be demonstrable..You have inserted your assumption into my statement.. Again study the MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiiff and the work of Jacques Benveniste. at INSERM, in Paris. At last count there were 500 confirming experiments Schiff is the summary of many years of repeated experimentation in France and Italy. This is the demonstration of effectiveness you ask for. Read it and THEN give me your criticism. At the moment you are in the "I dont want to hear about it school " You are making an emphatic statement without looking at the evidence. This is the height of irrationaility., but quite common according to Kuhn THE STRUCTURE OF SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION. 2. Its a matter of definition.Using your definition then my 4-space would be 5-space. There is an entire US AIR FORCE study based on this confusion. It depends how you handle space-time in the new dimension. Just say extra-dimensional to avoid the problem. 3. Non-existant within YOUR assumed definition.. This has nothing to do with the physical dimension, this is extra-dimensional and you restririct your thinking to the physical.. 4. Read , study MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiff Then get back on line with your comments. I will be most interested to hear your criticism. IF there is a flaw it will be in the laboratory methodology. Take a look maybe you can find it. But it is unlikely that dozens of researchers are repeating the same mistake.. You have to PROVE them wrong. You cannot ASSUME them to be wrong. You will find a quick overview in SCIENCE CITATION INDEX which has a list of high dilution experiments made between 1985 and 1996 ANTONY SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Poverty and Government Control
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A - Laissez Faire City Times September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Poverty and Government Control by Peter Topolewski Like the tide, civil unrest comes and goes. Throughout Canada, particularly in British Columbia and Ontario, unrest has definitely come. The acronyms, some old and some new, have begun to play more prominently on news broadcasts, neighborhood posters, and in the newspapers: PAN (Poverty Action Network), MWAL (Marginalized Workers Action League), OPAC (Ontario Poverty Action Committee) and so on. According to the news and many of their own proclamations these groups are fighting for whats owed them: an adequate welfare check delivered on time and without harassment, belittlement, or strings attached. In fact, these groups are fighting just another battle against government control. And unfortunately unless they make some drastic changes all their efforts and angry fights look to be, in the long run, fruitless. In the short term many anti-poverty groups aim to act as advocates for individuals having problems with the local welfare office. Seeing their strength in numbers, they protest and picket and if need be "occupy" welfare offices until a check is issued. Some, such as PAN, have been condemned by the working public and fellow anti-poverty groups for bold tactics like taking over the then premiers constituency office and picketing outside his home. Whatever the specific tactic, and whether condemned or not, often they achieve the goal. A meager check, however reluctantly, is issued and the recipient is able to survive another month with that smallest amount of security. This battle of wills between the poor and the state is of course waged in a larger context. In Canada the backdrop is a dedication to social programs, made much of in theory and often referred to, but like much scenery it is mostly taken for granted. Many Canadians, some would suggest a majority, point with pride to a national system and history of commitment to the poor. But when it comes to pinpointing the mechanism and the cost of such a system, and more especially the contribution required of each citizen to make that system work, most seem woefully ignorant. The vaunted Canadian social programs quickly slip from the taxpayers minds when the news informs them of another anti-poverty or welfare protest. Instead tired cries of "get a job" more often ring out. Rather than go on living in a state of contradiction, the proud taxpayers would be better served by listening to the welfare protestors, for in the details they would find the problems with their government laid bare. In British Columbia welfare protestors are fighting everything from the occasional 5-week check run (which forces recipients to live for a week longer on the same amount of money) to humiliating and de-humanizing psychological attacks, to the establishment of a system of institutionalized poverty. The tactics are all directed at increasing government control of poor peoples lives. Keeping in mind that welfare is a social service to which the BC government is publicly committed and of which it openly boasts, its seemingly unreasonable policies and tactics for intimidating and controlling the poor run the tried and true government gamut. Welfare applicants face incessant and indiscriminate qualification changes. The typical bureaucratic nightmare consists of constantly rotating caseworkers who do not use or (for unspoken reasons) do not have computers; producing application forms that inexplicably change, along with program euphemisms; and turning incorrect spellings into delays only a bureaucrat could understand. These are fairly run of the mill tactics used to wear out and humiliate and frustrate people. The stakes have been raised, however, and the protestors in BC have found new voices, because of some radical changes the government have recently instituted. The Natural Diversion Rate The current government in BC is called the New Democratic Party. It is historically a socialist party, associated with unions, environmentalists, and the poor. In a move meant to placate taxpayers and businesses who watched them send the province into enormous debt, the NDP government rolled out a plan to cut the size of the welfare rolls. Common sense would have it that if there are fewer people on welfare there must be more jobs. The NDP strategy, however, is simply to have fewer people on welfare, jobs or not. Government estimates show that of all the people who contact welfare offices, one third will not become welfare recipients. This is due to a phenomenon called the "natural diversion rate". The goal of the NDP is to increase the diversion rate from 33 percent to 38 percent, for
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990927b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No Yetis were harmed to produce this bulletin. But we're working on it. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ 8-Track Heaven: http://www.8trackheaven.com/index2.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ET Issue Splits B.C. Sasquatch Conference Researchers. VANCOUVER (Reuters) For sasquatch fans mobbing Vancouver, the debate isn't over the reality of the big apelike beast but over its relation to UFOs. "It's a huge divide," Stephen Harvey, organizer of the Int'l Sasquatch Symposium, said in desc- ribing the dispute between the cryptozoology and paranormal wings of sasquatch studies. http://www.canoe.ca/ReutersNews/LIFE-SASQUATCH.html : Are Yetis ETs? Are you? Are you large, hairy, apelike? I wear US#18 shoes; am I a Sasquatch? Am I an alien, like my dad? Does the Symposium want me?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # SPACE: THE FINAL FRONTIER FOR TOURISM? Want to take an out-of-this-world trip? For a mere $90,000, you can buy a ticket for a rocket ride to space. One company already has 100 ticket holders waiting to reach for the stars. The technology that took NASA decades to develop is now being examined by tourism entrepreneurs who hope to launch an industry odyssey. Next step: hookers in orbit: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/26/space.tourism/ : Have you indulged in any recreational orbiting lately? Have you had free- fall sex yet? Were you nauseous? Are you nauseous anyway? Are ya nauseating? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PR Ploy Gone Awry - Hilton Not Planning Space Hotel. LOS ANGELES (Reuters) Forget about booking rooms at the Intergalactic Hilton for the time being. The giant hotel chain plans to remain earth bound for a bit longer. Hilton said it is not planning to build a luxury resort in outer space or on the moon as some media groups have reported -- but that its Earth-based hotels are taking reservations. Buzz that the hotel firm was planning an orbiting space resort 500 miles above the earth complete with artificial gravity space walks for guests, was a public relations ploy run amok. Disinfor- mation: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/17/leisure-space-hilton : Are you bummed? Do you seek revenge? Will tour-terrorists wage a bombing campaign against Hilton until they build space hotels? Will they capitulate? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Canada's 'Avro' Flying Saucer - And German Disc Technology. It Came From Outer Toronto... Avro Canada is best remembered for the ill-fated Arrow, the supersonic jet fighter shelved by Ottawa in 1959. Now, newly- released CIA documents shed new light on another of the company's dreams -- a flying saucer. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/canadadisc_u.htm : Have you designed/built/tested/sold any flying saucers lately? Do you use alien/Nazi/metaphysical technologies? Is there a market for flying saucers? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The truth is in San Antonio for 300 UFO believers. They exchanged sighting tales at the weekend National UFO Conference. Attendee Janet Broderick saw her first flying saucer in 1995. "I didn't even blink and tears were streaming down my face," she says. "All of a sudden, it just disappeared." http://www.expressnews.com/pantheon/news-bus/metro/2601bufo0926nz.shtml : Do UFOs make you cry? Did a UFO ever break your heart? Do they fuck run? Will they still respect you in the morning? Do they share your pain? How?? # Air jammer shortage strains Navy - extended deployments stretch Pentagon in some combat specialties, especially electronic warfare: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561338645-f6e _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Comparison of a Teleological Model With a Quantum Collapse Model of Psi. Compare "two previously described mathematical psi models... At an early stage of psi research, one could hope to understand psi by a straightfor- ward extension of physics." http://www.visitations.com/mindnet/MN203.HTM : Do you have a good explanation for psi? Do you exploit psi? Do you use psi to accumulate wealth power, have good sex, control the masses, run things? # Teen gunman could be free by age 42 - Kip Kinkel can kill again: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561317915-079 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hospital will return children's hearts. (BBC) A children's hospital in Birmingham UK will offer to return the hearts of 1,500 dead babies whose organs were to be used for medical research. Gourmet chefs devastated: @ Links: British Organ Donor Society: http://www.argonet.co.uk/body/ @ British Transplantation Society: http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bts/ : Do you have the heart of a young child? Do you keep it in a jar on your desk? Did you take the sheep brain I used to have in a jar on my desk? Why? # Caskets taken by floods retrieved - more still underwater:
[CTRL] Sen. John McCain detractors page and links
-Caveat Lector- from: http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/mccain.htm A HREF="http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/mccain.htm"Untitled Normal Page/A - "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." Sen. John McCain I became interested in this creep when I saw he was behind the Senate effort to massively increase the expansion of airports (Senate Bill 82) in the U.S. (at taxpayer expense of course) with no concern or study (as required by federal law) of the increased environmental impacts on Americans. He likes to portray himself as a "independent" Republican who is for campaign finance reform, but in reality he rakes in the corporate PAC money better than most of congresscreeps. The media LOVES this creep, which says a lot about the media. Bill Mulcahy http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/newsletter28.htm Here are some stories revealing the true nature and duplicity of Sen. John "Insane" McCain: From the "Dark side" of John McCain http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal." Lott Lashes McCain Finances http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/lott990702.html Federal Election Campaign http://www.tray.com/fecinfo/efpres.html-ssi Itemized contributions 1999-2000 http://www.tray.com/fecinfo/mcca_pres.htm Contributor Employer Break-Out http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/efpres6.exe?2000P80002801E Contributor Occupation Break-Out http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/efpres6.exe?2000P80002801O I'm sure the "homemakers" are lobbyists wives. McCain's Environmental Scorecard: http://scorecard.lcv.org/member.cfm?id=213 http://scorecard.lcv.org/committee.cfm?committee=000COM McCain's Gravy: His Corporate Buddies http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1999/011499/wonk1.html So how did the money break down in the final analysis? Just to give you an idea of McCain's fund-raising prowess, here's a list of the companies who gave his Senate campaign big bucks, via their political action committees and/or employees: More than $20,000: U.S. West, ATT, BellSouth Corp., Bell Atlantic. Between $15,000-$19,999: AMR Corp. (Alaska Air's owner), Bank One Corp., News Corp., Phelps Dodge Corp., Boeing Co., Ameritech Corp. (a Baby Bell), CSX Corp. (a railroad). Between $10,000-$14,999: Bank of America, Federal Express Corp., Cyprus Amax Minerals Co., Hensley Co., Union Pacific Corp., National Association of Home Builders, Ford Motor Co., Lockheed Martin, National Cable Television Association, Motorola Inc., Del Webb Corp., Allied Pilots Association, American Institute of CPAs, Burlington Northern Inc., MCI WorldCom, SBC Communications, Marshall Ilsley Corp., Sprint Corp., Americans for Free International Trade, Arizona Public Service Co., Cellular Telecom Industry Association, Citigroup Inc., Marine Engineers Union, National Association of Underwriters, Newport News Shipbuilding, TRW Inc. and United Parcel Service. As long as McCain chairs the Senate Commerce Committee, companies like these will give him money with the hope of currying favor. Yes, some of the companies listed above are headquartered in Arizona, but for the record, 65 percent of the money McCain raised in 1998 came from out of state. And 26 percent of it came from, as Campaigns and Elections puts it, "those dastardly denizens of political corruption" -- PACs. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
-Caveat Lector- Or, it could have been over the 100 per day list limit, in which case it simply postpones posting. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gunzin Britland
-Caveat Lector- Via www.worldtribune.com/index-so2-text.html The true effect of Britain's gun control laws By David Morgan SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Monday, September 27, 1999 No country is more often referred to as a model for gun control than is Britain. Somehow the popular media has fostered this quaint vision of a civil society with few guns floating around. This image has quite an appeal to U. S. gun control advocates, the basis being that fewer guns make for a more civilized society. However, a close analysis shows that there is a good deal more to it than that. However, Britain is not totally disarmed. Actually there are some two million legal shotguns in Britain and several hundred thousand handguns as well as some two million firearms that are illegally owned. In order to understand gun laws in Britain it is necessary to look at their society in terms of some of their other laws. A fundamental axiom in Britain that one writer often remembers a British woman saying to an American is that "We're subjects. You're citizens." This is no minor difference. According to David Kopel in his book The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy "In the American system, the individual citizen is the 'starting point and motivational power of the political process.' Government is delegated to the people, and it remains subordinate to the people. Indeed, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were intended to keep the government inferior to the people in terms of physical force. As James Madison's friend Tench Coxe explained, the federal government could never successfully tyrannize America, for 'The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but where I trust in God will ever remain, in the hands of the American people.'" By contrast, the parliament in Britain is the supreme entity. A clearly expressed act of Parliament cannot be questioned on constitutional grounds by any British court of law. A "majority" in Parliament means virtually the control of the entire government. It is a democracy by consent and not by delegation. In actuality the system in Britain does not mean legislative supremacy. It means executive supremacy. The leader of the dominant party in Parliament faces no effective opposition or checks and balances. It is noteworthy that American criminal cases are prosecuted in the name of "the people," while British cases are prosecuted in the name of the monarch. One nation is the United States while the other is the United Kingdom. According to Kopel "What America calls 'domestic tranquility' Britain calls 'the Queen's Peace. The different phrasing reflects the British assumption that the government is not simply an arbiter between individuals, but an independent power, sufficient unto itself with the authority to take whatever steps it needs to protect its own interests in peace. As a result many rights that are fundamental in America are less than secure in Britain." The "rights of Englishmen" that developed from the 1689 English Bill of Rights were an important basis for the American Bill of Rights. These American rights, and not only the right to bear arms, have "flourished in America and withered in Britain." For instance, the grand jury in Britain was abolished in 1933. Civil jury trials have been abolished for all cases except libel. Criminal jury trials are rare. America has the Miranda rules, while in Britain police are allowed to continue to interrogate suspects who have asked that the interrogation stop, and the police are even allowed to bar defense attorneys from seeing suspects under interrogation for limited periods. Britain allows the use of testimony derived from leads developed in a coerced confession. Even the standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt has been eroded. Suspected terrorists now carry the burden of proving their innocence. In addition wiretaps do not need judicial approval. The British Criminal Justice Act of 1967 abolished the necessity for unanimous jury verdicts in criminal trials and eliminated the requirement for a full hearing of evidence at committal hearings. Freedoms guaranteed Americans in the First Amendment that uphold freedom of speech and the right to assemble are also subject to qualifications from the British Parliament. The government frequently bans books on national security. British libel laws tend to favor those who bring suit against the free press. And, in addition, in Britain the government may apply for a prior restraint of speech, asking that the court censor a newspaper without the newspaper even having notice or the opportunity to present a counter argument. The Official Secrets Act makes the unauthorized receipt of information from any governmental agency illegal and even allows the government to forbid publication of any "secret" it pleases. The U.S. government carries the burden of proving that a
[CTRL] Jam Logs
-Caveat Lector- Via www.igc.org Massive Lewis Clark Logging Planned Originally posted in IGC member conference: ef.general Date: September 16, 1999 Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /* Written 2:56 PM Sep 16, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in ef.general */ /* -- "ALERT:Massive Lewis+Clark logging" -- */ ACTION ALERT: ON EVE OF LEWIS AND CLARK BICENTENNIAL, CLEARWATER NATIONAL FOREST PLANS TO LOG OVER 8,000 ACRES NEAR ONLY REMAINING ROADLESS PORTION OF LEWIS AND CLARK TRAIL September, 1999: Idaho's Clearwater National Forest (CNF) just released a plan to log 75 million board-feet on 8,280 acres, within and adjacent to the North Lochsa Slope Roadless Area. This area contains the only remaining roadless portion of the historic Lewis and Clark trail as well as the proposed Lewis and Clark Wilderness Area. Lewis and Clark journeyed across the country in 1805, so the logging would be just in time for the Lewis and Clark bicentennial celebrations happening around the region. Comments are accepted on the North Lochsa Face Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) until October 8, 1999. Let the CNF know that such a massive logging project is inappropriate anytime on the fragile soils of the Clearwater National Forest, but especially during the bicentennial. The North Lochsa Face FEIS describes plans to: *Commercially log 8,280 acres of land, an estimated 75 million board-feet. The methods used will be approximately 50% skyline hauling, 25% tractor hauling, and 25% helicopter logging. *Precommercially thin an additional 1,290 acres. *Log an additional 2,250 acres under the guise of "off-site species conversion," which is clearcutting of ponderosa pine planted in the 1930's which was originally obtained from an off-site location. *Unspecified amounts of noxious weed control including manual pulling, herbicide spraying, and the release of biocontrol agents (predatory insects). *600 acres of streamside tree plantings along Pete King and Fish Creeks. *Allows motorized use in all current areas. Send comments to: Cynthia Lane, District Ranger, Lochsa Ranger District, Rt. 1, Box 398, Kooskia ID 83539, by October 8, 1999. Suggested comment points include: *This sale is massive in size. It is nearly as large as all Cove/Mallard sales combined, which was until recently the largest timber sale in the history of Region 1.It proposes to log nearly 8,000 acres of forest. The Forest Service is supposed to be in a more enlightened era when the health of watersheds comes first. If this is so, why are they proposing this abomination along the Lochsa Wild and Scenic River and scenic Highway 12 corridor, near Lewis and Clark's trail, during the Lewis and Clark bicentennial years? *The forest the sale would destroy is one of the final refuges in the entire country for wilderness-dependent carnivores such as wolverine, fisher, and possibly lynx. There have been 4 sightings of wolverine in the project area! If the Forest Service values these rare species, it will not obliterate their habitat. *Numerous other threatened, endangered, and sensitive species reside in the project area, and the extensive logging will destroy thousands of acres of their prime habitat. The species include bald eagle, black-backed woodpecker, Coeur d'Alene salamander, fisher, flammulated owl, northern goshawk, and more. *The proposed logging is on the same type of steep slopes that failed so dramatically in the landslides of 1995-1996. Of course, these slopes will carry similar landslide potential. *Fish Creek is known as one of the most important steelhead spawning grounds in the entire state of Idaho. Most of the Fish Creek watershed is proposed Wilderness, except for a small portion of its headwaters. The Forest Service plans to log 460 acres in this portion! The logging (mostly clearcuts) will cause sedimentation in Fish Creek which will damage the spawning grounds. *The Fish Creek roadless area is also famed for its elk herds. Hunters come from hours away to hunt the elk there. Elk rely on a delicate balance between forage ground and forest, and this sale will disrupt that. *Releasing nonnative insects for biocontrol is very risky. Many times this has occurred, the insects switch host plants and end up eating native vegetation, disrupting natural predator/prey relationships. This plan to release unnamed biocontrol insects in or adjacent to proposed wilderness is dangerous and is contrary to the Wilderness Act. FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT: Friends of the Clearwater PO Box 9241 Moscow, ID 83843 (208) 882-9755 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR Idaho Conservation League, North Idaho Office PO Box 9783 Moscow, ID 83843 (208) 882-1010 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- i'm not into homeopathy and tried one of their medicines for hay fever to try and avoid that dopey feeling but found it didnt work. However I remember in the economist(about 5yrs ago) they reported controlled experiments carried out at glasgow, that did produce positive results with some homeopathic medicines. As to water having some sort of memory, in chemical plants, one of the tecqniques to reduce scaling in heat exchangers is to pass it through a strong magnetic field. Also the major drug companies have a large financial incentives to discover expensive, patentable cures above natural inexpensive cures. Having said all that i'd trust normal alipathic medicines to cure sicknesses. (Although I wouldnt always trust doctors with those medicines) John -Original Message- From: Ric Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 September 1999 03:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science technologies if you think in the conventional framework. Ah, so we have to stop demanding that they be demonstrably effective? You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space We already live in 4-space - it's called space-time. Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several reasons especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of dilution not one molecule of the physical substance remains. Yes, it's hard for non-existant stuff to work. But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon. Posit whatever you will, but demonstrate 1) the existence of what you've posited and 2) the validity of your claims. But the theoretical basis of homeopathy is irrelevant if it doesn't work. If it worked, it would be exploited commercially on a mass- industrial basis. Major drug firms would squeeze every possible dollar out of it. As it is, homeopathy is well-marketed to the credulous, and works about as well as any placebo can be expected to. But if SKF Beecham and CibaGeigy et al can't find effective uses for homeopathic preparations, why should I trust a clerk at a GNC assuring me that their green goo is good? Like I said, next time you get cholera, see a homeopath. See MEMORY OF WATER page 26 for the second curve, which is Hahnemanns 'spirit essense" Ah, "spirit essense" - to claim it, and to establish it, are rather different endeavors. Demonstrate the existence of 'spirits', then demonstrate that water has 'spirit', then show that water has a "spirit essense" and 'memory', then produce independent replication of these experiments, and I'll start to take such claims seriously. If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give yourslf a headache, get frustrated and never understand.. Homeopathy is based on a doctrine. Doctrines suck. Science is based on the rigorous testing of ideas - doctrines tend to fade away under such scrutiny. Science WILL give you a headache, but it works. Doctrines will soothe your mind, but won't lead you to fruitful discoveries. Bother. Loosen up your mind. Tighten up your standards. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Krauthammer: Buchanan shows what a hypocrite he really is
-Caveat Lector- Charles Krauthammer on Pat Buchanan: "So off to dance with Ross Perot - and to lunch with Lenora Fulani, self-described (former?) 'militant black nationalist ... Marxist and social therapist,' now a power in the Reform Party. Buchanan's association with Fulani, once head of the 'black-led, woman-led, multiracial and pro-gay' New Alliance Party, is beyond parody. Fulani is so far out on the loony left that she once called Michael Dukakis a 'white supremacist candidate.' (She ought to read Pat's columns.)" = Philadelphia Inquirer, September 27, 1999 (http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Sep/27/opinion/KRAUT27.htm) In seeking Reform Party backing, Buchanan shows what a hypocrite he really is The line on Pat Buchanan has always been this: He might be slightly cracked, but at least he is principled: He knows what he believes and says it without fear or equivocation. After Buchanan's performance auditioning for the Reform Party presidential nomination, however, it is clear that his reputation for principle is an elaborate fraud. For example: In a column last November headlined "The Dispossession Of Christian Americans," Buchanan is agitated about figures showing that half of Harvard students are Asian or Jewish. He decries "a Harvard student body where non-Jewish whites - 75 percent of the U.S. population - get just 25 percent of the slots. Talk about underrepresentation! Now we know who really gets the shaft at Harvard - white Christians." This is, of course, cracked. (The implication that Asians and Jews have had 50 percent of the spots set aside for them to the exclusion of white ethnics is nutty.) But when he thunders that "a liberal elite is salving its social conscience by robbing America's white middle class of its birthright, and handing it over to minorities," he at least seems full of passionate intensity. So when Gloria Borger asked him about this on Face the Nation - "You wrote in that column that they [Ivy League colleges] should 'look more like America,' as you put it, by reserving 75 percent of their slots for, quote, 'non-Jewish whites' " - we might have expected a rigorous defense. Instead, Buchanan first tried denial. "Oh, I don't think I wrote that." When Borger shot back, "You did write that. I'm quoting," Buchanan took a dive, protesting now that he'd been speaking "tongue in cheek." Tongue in cheek? Buchanan wrote not one but two columns denouncing the Ivy League for "denying its first-class tickets to the upper crust of society" to "Euro-Americans." There is not a hint of irony in either piece. Moreover, the second (Jan. 1, 1999) refers explicitly to the fuss kicked up by the first (Nov. 27, 1998): "When I suggested that it might be time for Euro-Americans to demand affirmative action, the usual suspects answered with the usual invective." The second column is the time to reveal it was all in jest, no? No. If anything, Buchanan laid it on thicker in the follow-up, declaring that "This social and moral injustice needs airing." And, by God, airing injustice is what Pat does. Right? Right. Until he's called on it on national TV. Then he goes impish and squishy and claims that he is an ironist. Pat Buchanan is a lot of things. But ironist he is not. He is, for starters, a both-sides-of-the-mouth politician. His technique is to convey raw prejudice to his followers, who understand his code, then go on respectable media, smile and pretend he never meant it. His trademark is the wink. The wink is interpreted by his friends in mainstream media as "I'm fooling the mob." It is understood by the mob as "I'm fooling the pointy-heads." An ironist he is not. But a hypocrite he is. He savages the Republican Party for being insufficiently committed to the unborn, then gets ready to defect to a party that is entirely and publicly indifferent to abortion - and, to boot, to the other great social issues Buchanan claims are so near his bosom, such as gay rights. Howard Phillips' Constitution Party shares not just Buchanan's foreign and economic policies but his views on abortion, religion and the rest. Why then is Buchanan courting the Reform Party? Because the Constitution Party is not up for $13 million in free federal money. So off to dance with Ross Perot - and to lunch with Lenora Fulani, self-described (former?) "militant black nationalist ... Marxist and social therapist," now a power in the Reform Party. Buchanan's association with Fulani, once head of the "black-led, woman-led, multiracial and pro-gay" New Alliance Party, is beyond parody. Fulani is so far out on the loony left that she once called Michael Dukakis a "white supremacist candidate." (She ought to read Pat's columns.) In April 1987, she went to Libya to join a rally marking the first anniversary of the U.S. bombing of Libya. That bombing was the work of Ronald Reagan, Buchanan's hero and boss. Pat was White House director of communications at the time of the attack. Fulani
[CTRL] The cataclysm *is* imminent...
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:556801"The cataclysm *is* imminent.../A - Subject: The cataclysm *is* imminent... From: Mixmaster Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1] Date: Sun, 26 September 1999 05:04 PM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Praised be YaoHu'SHua and YaoHu'WaH, for out of the Jews salvation is... --- [updated 2451447.6] ** Nostradamus' "seven month" is most definitely Ethanim[Tishri], 1999 AD, and for the "bearded star" to be seen "in the north not far from Cancer" forces the viewer's reference to be well- SOUTH of the ecliptic, not north of it, see? Those who've been studying related *propheties* would do well to understand this. I've seen this clearly the K.O.T. is gonna wreak bloody havoc. ** Av 5759 molad: Tue, Jul 13, 1999 AD @ 04:37:38 AM JST (Julian date 2451372.60947) S M T W T F S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29* 30 *total solar eclipse is molad of Elul; this marks Jesus' 2001st tropical-solar birthday, tribulation ensues; the demise of the divided fourth empire of "iron/miry clay" is imminent! Note also that the C/Lee fragment spotted during this solar eclipse was recognized by only a few, precisely as expected[ref. Michel de Nostradamus C3Q34] This "monstre" will be seen clearly within *one* week-- counting from today, which is Sunday, 26 September 1999. Elul 5759 molad: Wed, Aug 11, 1999 AD @ 01:06:01 PM JST (Julian date 2451401.96251) S M T W T F S 1* 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 *Jesus' 2001st Hebrew Calendar Birthday, Aztec Calendar `13 Cane', Day of Destiny, next month Ethanim[Tishri] commences second half of Jesus' 7-year Ministry--Enter the Lion! These 3 1/2 years of tribulation are shortened for the elect's sake[Gk. eklektos, {mutually}"selected"] thus no one, not any man, neither any angel, not even Jesus knows the day nor the hour, but the Father ONLY. This [7th]month is undoubtedly Nostradamus' "sept mois", and *this* Gregorian[Roman] year 1999 Anno Domini is the correct year, so *this* is it: Prepare for YHWH's Wrath! --- HEBREW/JEWISH CIVIL CALENDAR YEAR 5760 --- (385/"perfect" leap year, Type 11, 4-7-P; notably is identical type of calendar year as Jesus' crucifixion, 3791[30-31 AD]) Tishri 5760 molad: Thu, Sep 09, 1999 AD @ 11:44:58 PM JST (Julian date 2451431.40623) S M T W T F S 1* 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13+ 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 *Rosh ha-Shannah, Saturday, September 11th, 1999; marks the beginning of globally-catastrophic events foretold in many scriptures and warnings; Jesus was baptised---commencing His 7-year Ministry---1972 years ago, Rosh ha-Shanah, Sat, Sept 20, 27 AD[1 Tishri 3788]; Day of Atonement, Sept 20, 1999 AD(!); +autumnal equinox, Sept 23 [C2Q41]; Feast of Tabernacles[15-21 Ethanim]; Last Great Day, October 2, 1999 AD; Nosty's X72 by or before Oct 10th! This "king of terror" falls from Sagittarius, the heavenly archer, is "the stone in the tree"[C2Q70]; 1300m impact in the South Pacific w/Venus in Leo very near Regulus; NONE will have prepared, not one. Cheshvan 5760 molad: Sat, Oct 09, 1999 AD @ 01:18:57 PM JST (Julian date 2451460.97149) S M T W T F S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21* 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 *the last day of October; within this month, by or before the year 2002, a great shift in the earth's motion, a +20de geographical pole shift will occur; I have 'seen' this shift occurring in October 2000. I have also seen the K.O.T. preceding it, look out!
[CTRL] Globalization and Financial Privacy
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A - Laissez Faire City Times September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Globalization and Financial Privacy a review by Lauren Bain Richard W. Rahn, The End of Money and the Struggle for Financial Privacy , Discovery Institute, Seattle, 1999, 223 pp. Thomas L. Friedman, The Lexus and the Olive Tree: Understanding Globalization, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, New York, 1999, 394 pp. Thomas Friedmans warmhearted tales and devotion to metaphor narrate the steps to a kinder, gentler global village; but, in fact, his storytelling outclasses his economics. How are we to experience his subjective worldone rife with shallow distinctions between free markets and regulated ones, one in which statist Newt Gingrich could be a free-market icon, one in which we are implored to create world markets and prosperity without perturbing any quaint cultural relics? Friedman acknowledges that globalization is inevitable; further, he tells us that markets are the motive force urging it on at terrible speed. But he also says that governments can and must place conditions on these same forcesor, he declares in another logical switchbackno globalization. Is the Electronic Herd careening out of control, impelling a dynamic world market to redefine life every moment according to subtle dictates of market whimsor can we rein it in, regulate it, assign America to take point, even stop it altogether if Friedmans sister doesnt like her Jersey beefsteak tomatoes without cracks and bumps? He knows his Golden Straitjacket will fit every producer nation eventually with a bit of tailoring, but does he really see no difference between the rule of law as it is worn in the United States and as it hangs on Singapore? Friedman loves his planet, and his reader wants to love him for that. But its difficult when he transmutes the Invisible Hand to an unseen fist driving a herd of electronic reindeer at warpspeed. He is a Lexus person, thrilled at a global marketplace, and an olive tree person, in love with his community that he maintains no chat room could replace. No, but how does he suppose neighbors mobilize each other when the time comes to petition city hall for that new road? E-mail, of course: the ultimate grassroots weapon. Friedman sees globalization creating a more open societysomething of which he evidently approvesbut he frets over the lack of privacy that instantaneous electronic commerce portends. Here he demonstrates a lack of knowledge as well as faith in reasoning mens urges to enhance their privacy. Encryption evidently hasnt settled into his lexicon. If Friedmans road sign is "GLOBALIZATION AHEAD: ASSUME CRASH POSITIONS," Richard Rahns is "WELCOME TO PRIVACY PLANET. EARN WHAT YOU KEEP, AND KEEP WHAT YOU EARN." The sun shines on Rahns world. The baht no longer fakes out the dollar; currency is digitalized and, in fact, is just another product of a free, private-sector market that is unamenable to government regulation. Prosperity has so subsumed the globe that governments have little to do, as borders become less likely to be threatened, and the government has become a very small part of peoples lives. Dr. Rahn loves freedom and Mr. Friedman values safety. But both economists sound the clarion call that globalization is brooking no interference. While Friedman hopes that globalization will result in American-style democratization of finance, technology and information without disrupting cultural elements he believes are necessary for wholesome community, Rahn reasons that governments wont even get to throw a punch before private currencies, encrypted commerce, and global competition for citizenship itself declare a knock-out in the next round between the public and private sectors. Rahn sees government as intrusiveunless shrunk to fit the requirements of citizens who desire privacy and liberty, while Friedman sees the American government in particular as a benign breakwater restraining the ruthless flux of capitalism. Friedman insists on installing safety nets beneath a high-wire act already in progress, while Rahn realizes that such nets would only burden liberty, privacy, and the relentless motion underway--and anyway, commerce would simply go underground. Rahn is a capitalist: he trusts the urge to prosper. Friedman seemingly regards capitalism as a magnificent wild animalwonderful, majestic, and inherently dangerous. Echoing Al Gores "we are on an irreversible trend toward democracy, but that could change," Friedman suggests conflicting propositionsthat globalization is inexorable, but also that if it threatens to drown our olive trees, we can stop it if we want
[CTRL] The Preview
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:556577"The Preview /A- Subject: The Preview From: James Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 September 1999 03:24 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associated Press headline: Indonesia Ends Contoversial Law The headline lies. AP reports: Indonesia's government...SUSPENDED the implementa- tion of a...law that would have given the military power to curb civil liberties. The Indonesian people compelled this FOREIGN government to cave, for the time being. AP reports: ...500 riot police stormed the Atma Jaya Catholic University [in Jakarta] before dawn, firing volleys of tear gas and rubber bullets at students who had taken over the campus. Jakarta citizens from all walks of life joined in. The report continues: By early afternoon, the clashes were moving slowly down Jakarta's main boulevard...toward the center of the city. Only then did the FOREIGN government cave, for the time being. Back at the university: ...police [had] smashed the windows of buildings and cars and arrested five students. AP quotes a business student: "They are not police, they are pirates and murderers." Coming --by way of Waco and Indonesia-- to your home town SOONEST ! The AP story's datelined 0843 hours EDT 24 September 1999 Jakarta, Indonesia. I capitalized the word "sus- pended" in the first quote, for emphasis. AP says the business student's "Alex Leonardo, 25." If he's an American, Clinton's State Department can yank his passport. This critical essay was composed 25 September 1999. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Uncle Tom's Cell (Slavery in Amerika)
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:556540"Uncle Tom's Cell (Slavery in Amerika)/A - Subject: Uncle Tom's Cell (Slavery in Amerika) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 September 1999 12:48 PM EDT Message-id: 7siuc3$48i$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uncle Tom's Cell: Prison labor gives a market face to an old idea -- slavery by Josh Levin Perspective Magazine February 1999 It is morning, and you wake in a cement cell to the sound of a nightstick on bars. You proceed to join a sea of primarily black faces in an assembly line as white guards with shotguns and tasers stroll between the ranks, punishing inefficient laborers. With wages as low as 11 cents an hour and no benefits or vacations, the prisoners must choose between labor and longer sentences, since "good time" policies shave days from the captivity period for days worked. This is not a description of a sweatshop in a developing country, but of a fascistic marriage between private enterprise and state that bears a frightening resemblance to slavery -- prison labor. Prison labor has a rich history in the United States. After the end of slavery, the "convict leasing" program was instituted in the South. Along with Black Codes, this program functioned to return African Americans to the plantations. Land owners would bid to receive complete control over the lives and labor of prisoners, of whom only a negligible number were white. African American laborers were whipped so severely that survivors would be crippled for life. Women were flogged, hung by their wrists, and placed in solitary confinement. Before long, journalists, community members, ministers, women's groups, and union organizers rallied against this oppressive system. By the 1930s, every state had abolished convict leasing. Unfortunately, leasing was replaced by state-run chain-gangs, a despicable form of slavery and torture. Again, stories of teenagers being beaten to death or dying in solitary "sweat boxes" created public outrage, and chain gangs were abolished in the '50s. Yet in 1979, Congress began a process of deregulation that has once again allowed private corporations to exploit this captive labor market for profit. Although prison-made goods were initially only manufactured for state agencies, they now flow into all sectors of the economy, competing with outside companies and jobs. Corporations ranging from J.C. Penny and Victoria's Secret to IBM and Toys R Us utilize prison labor to cut costs and increase profit margins. In fact, the next time you call TWA to make airline reservations, you may be speaking to one of 300 youth offenders working as receptionists in a Los Angeles prison. The U.S. prison population has grown by 300 percent since 1980, making us by far the world's leader in imprisoning our own population, greatly surpassing our nearest competitors, South Africa and the former USSR. Enough people are incarcerated every two days to fill the New Orleans Superdome. Most of these prisoners are drug-related offenders, and programs focusing on rehabilitation and drug treatment are more cost- effective in the long run. Prison/hospitals, halfway houses, and other experimental community programs cost less to run and have much lower rates of recidivism. Yet prison labor is replacing educational and other programs because it requires less funding within the prison while keeping inmates busy. The goal of incarceration is becoming more and more to reap profits, and a member of the South Carolina Division of Correctional Industries states that "rehabilitation is considered to be a byproduct." Work programs have been protected under the guise of "job training." Yet when an offender enters a California prison, he is surveyed for over 50 skills and placed according to his ability -- with no intent to train him in anything new. In a poll of prison industry leaders, 39 percent said that profit orientation was the most important issue of prison labor, while only 12 percent said rehabilitation. Escod Industries, one of IBM's main suppliers of electronic cables, employs 250 inmates at Evans Correctional Facility in South Carolina. The plant manager, Bert Christy, "believes many inmate workers are over-qualified for the jobs they hold," which would not seem to be advancing the skills of the prisoners. Furthermore, one must question the extent to which these skills manage to keep people out of prison, if the offenders are entering the facilities already trained. Escod Industries moved to South Carolina after abandoning plans to open operations in Mexico because the wages of the American prisoners undercut those of de-unionized Mexican sweatshop workers. This incentive was also combined with the $250,000 "equipment subsidy" given to Escod by the state and the offer of industrial space at below-market rent. Jostens, Inc. has 40 women in Leah Correctional Facility sewing and packaging graduation gowns. The work is
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis September 27, 1999
___ What's going on in your world? Find Out. Visit Stratfor's Global Intelligence Center http://www.stratfor.com/world/default.htm ___ OTHER FEATURES ON STRATFOR.COM Rhetoric and Reality: The Limits of Australia's Ambitions in Asia http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special82.htm Chavez: Democrat or Dictator? http://www.stratfor.com/world/specialreports/special6.htm The Saudi Succession http://www.stratfor.com/MEAF/specialreports/special12.htm Russia On Standby in Chechnya http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/c9909240039.htm __ STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update Weekly Analysis September 27, 1999 There's a New Deputy in Town: Australia's New Strategy Summary: Australian Prime Minister John Howard announced a new foreign policy last week, dubbed the Howard Doctrine. It asserts Australia's more active role as "deputy" to the United States, assuming the United States is hiring, and that Australia's application for the job will be accepted over other worthy candidates. The Howard Doctrine represents a dramatic shift in Australia's foreign policy following economic collapse. It is a critical piece of the regional strategic response to the new economic reality. Analysis: Last week, in the wake of Australian troops landing in East Timor, Australian Prime Minister John Howard announced a new strategic doctrine for Australia. Quickly dubbed the "Howard Doctrine," the new strategy included two core elements. First, Australia would assume a more active role in Asian security matters, including further interventions as needed. Second, Australia would undertake this role as "deputy" to the United States. As an enabling element, Howard promised to increase Australian defense spending from its current level of about $10 billion a year (less than 2 percent of GDP). The Thai and Malaysian governments immediately condemned the move. The opposition Labor Party also attacked the Howard Doctrine. John Howard has committed Australia to a mission that no Asian country applauds and some condemn. He has done so without building the domestic coalition necessary for such a transformation in Australian policy. Finally, he chose to commit himself to a policy for which Australia does not have sufficient armed forces, for which money has not been appropriated, and which will require a force build-up of several years following fund allocation. Given all of this, it would have seemed reasonable for Howard to watch his Timorese adventure unfold before proclaiming a dramatic new shift in Australian policy. He didn't wait. Therefore, it is important to try to get a sense of the perceptions of events in the region that might have caused Howard to take this dramatic step. Let's begin by considering how dramatically the East and Southeast Asian scene has changed in a little over two years. As 1997 dawned, Asia was headed toward what the conventional media were calling "The Asian Century." Fantastic growth rates, in place for a generation, appeared to be driving an Asian juggernaut destined to be the perpetual global growth center. In the midst of this fantastic growth rate, all political disputes appeared trivial. All political issues could be handled with judicious allocation of a never ending flow of investment funds. In foreign policy, apart from the marginal issue of North Korea, there were no substantial disagreements, save over trade and tariff matters. China and the United States agreed that financial cooperation trumped political and strategic disputes and led the way to a highly de-politicized region. Even the most fractious countries, like Indonesia, were held together by rising financial tides, which submerged political disputes in complex and profitable financial arrangements. Starting in the summer of 1997, it all fell apart. As the region's economy deteriorated, the economic balm of vast rivers of investment and credit dried up. Complex domestic arrangements disappeared. Strategic issues, submerged under the flood of money, emerged again. Suddenly, the status of Taiwan was no longer a trivial matter to China. China-U.S. relations deteriorated dramatically; espionage and invasions became more important than investment and trade. Suddenly Asia became a completely different place. There was a golden age in Australian security policy that essentially lasted from the end of the Vietnam War (1975) to the collapse of the Asian economy (1997). During this period of Asian prosperity and stability, Australia (and its sidekick New Zealand) was in geographical heaven, finding itself more secure than at any time since before World War I. Australia first shared the insecurity of the British empire. The defeat of Great Britain would have opened up Australia to domination by other powers like Germany or Japan. This compelled Australia to participate in Great Britain's wars. Following World War
[CTRL] Cocktails and Cookies
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A - Laissez Faire City Times September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Cocktails and Cookies by Richard S. Ehrlich JAKARTA, Indonesia -- Armed Forces Chief General Wiranto, under fire for not stopping the killings in East Timor, unveiled a State Security Bill which he described as a cookie, but thousands of street rioters scorched it with Molotov cocktails for a second day Friday (September 24). Demonstrators held signs which said, Security Bill, A Legal Way for a Military Coup and warned it would grant Wiranto, and his armed forces, sweeping powers to revoke civil liberties. More than 5,000 student-led protestors hurled firebombs, rocks and bottles at thousands of police and troops Thursday and Friday to denounce the bill. Helmeted security forces armed with gas masks and US-made M-16 assault rifles, fired tear gas and rubber bullets, while beating protestors with wooden clubs. Protestors said the bill destroys fragile democratic reforms, which resulted after students helped topple dictator Suharto in May 1998. The state security bill -- in which a state of emergency can be declared -- gives the military the power to ban protests, take over telecommunications systems, private property and mail services, while ignoring all prevailing laws, the Jakarta Post reported Friday. Wiranto, who is also defense minister, ignored critics when he proudly introduced the bill by saying, Its the same with the offer of a cookie, but before tasting it...you already say, No. You reject the cookie, when in fact...its a very delicious one. Tossing Cookies Rioters, fed up with such rhetoric, destroyed highway dividers and landscaping on Jakartas main Sudirman Street in front of Parliament, and other infrastructure near universities, in the largest protests since Suhartos downfall. The immediate result of the governments security bill, passed by Parliament Thursday, was insecurity in four other riot-hit cities as well, including Yogyakarta, Surabaya, Semarang and Medan. Indonesias battered rupiah currency plunged further on news of the riots, coupled with concern over continued instability in East Timor. Wiranto claimed the bill is not designed for the militarys interests, nor in anticipation of the upcoming general session of Parliament. The four-star general was referring to Parliaments sessions in October and November when squabbling political parties are supposed to agree on granting independence for East Timor. Parliament is also, at that time, scheduled to vote on who will be Indonesias next president. Wiranto has been tipped to be the next vice-president, which worries critics who dub him, Suhartos protoge. Wiranto may be nominated to be vice-president under President Bacharuddin J. Habibie, or under Habibies popular rival, Megawati Sukarnoputri. Habibies ruling Golkar party chairman, Akbar Tandjung, said, The teamwork of Habibie and Wiranto is quite good. To be sure, Wiranto is Golkars candidate for vice-president, Tandjung added, apparently leaving open the question of who to nominate as president. Critics, meanwhhile, said passage of the bill should have waited until a new government forms, because the current administration is headed by the unelected, widely despised Habibie who was installed by Suharto. Habibie is expected to sign the bill into law within days. During the riots, many of the security forces displayed new equipment, including new camoflauge uniforms, padded body armor and hooded gas masks which covered their heads and shoulders. Only their M-16 assault rifles and hand-held, full-body plexiglass sheilds showed signs of wear. In some confrontations, they absorbed Molotov cocktails, rocks and other debris thrown by students, while remaining in formation to block any advances, and firing occasional volleys of tear gas and rubber bullets. During a lengthy standoff near Parliament, a couple of Marines wearing red berets appeared, and consulted with the students, who temporarily dispersed. Students Respect the Marines The students respect the Marines, one rioter told The Laissez Faire City Times as flames from a Molotov cocktail burned in front of a nearby pharmacy. The Marines played a pivotal role in supporting students against Suharto. Other students, wearing water-soaked handkerchiefs over their mouths to neutralize tear gas, played cat and mouse with security forces by hurling Molotov cocktails and rocks, and then scattering in panic when troops stormed forward. Some protesters spilled into a lavish tourism exhibition near Parliament, causing well-dressed foreign and Indonesian officials to leave their booths and gape in horror from inside the airconditioned building at the
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going?? The Illuminati are collecting all the world's available gold for delivery -- in 2003 -- to the Anunnaki Serpent masters on Nibiru, the 3400 year eliptical orbit '12th planet'. But you knew that. Yes, it's obvious. And Andy Groves uses his Bilderberger links to get just enough industrial gold to keep the processors rolling off the production line. In fact, ALL electronics components makers are part of that network. ALL electronics devices are used for mind-control. We are being prepared. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) NEW WHITE HOUSE SPIN ON HILLARY HOUSE DEAL A SHAM
-Caveat Lector- Simple: Just *say* you're not going to do something then wait to do it when you think everyone has forgotten. --- Forwarded Message Follows --- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE September 27, 1999 Contact: Joe Giganti (202) 646-5172 NEW WHITE HOUSE SPIN ON HILLARY HOUSE DEAL A SHAM Judicial Watch To File Suit to Ensure That Mortgage On Clinton Mansion Does Not Go Through (Washington, September 27, 1999) Late last week, The White House leaked "news" that the Clintons were considering whether to seek a "conventional" loan to purchase their desired $1.7 million dollar mansion in New York. While the Clintons, given their professed financial distress, would not qualify for such a loan in any event, as usual The White House failed to tell the whole story behind the Clintons' effective admission that their current proposed mortgage is not legal. On Thursday, September 16, 1999, Judicial Watch, which is a shareholder in the banks (Deutsche Bank and Bankers Trust) which currently plan to loan the Clintons the money to purchase the mansion thanks to a $1.35 million guarantee by influence peddler Terry McAuliffe, sent a demand letter explaining the illegality of the transaction and threatening to file a derivative suit for injunctive relief if the deal were not abandoned. See www.judicialwatch.org. However, rather than abandon the deal, Deutsche Bank and Bankers Trust denounced Judicial Watch as pursuing a "political agenda." (Letter posted on www.judicialwatch.org with this press release). This is consistent with recent press reports suggesting that the Clintons will keep the current financial arrangement with Deutsche Bank and Bankers Trust if a better deal cannot be had. Having not complied with Judicial Watch's demand letter, and realizing that the non-partisan public interest government watchdog does not make idle threats, it would appear that the latest spin coming out of The White House was intended to induce Judicial Watch not to file suit. However, Judicial Watch will file suit, since based on the Clintons' professed finances, they cannot get a conventional house loan and the recent press reports were just a sham. "Given their claimed lack of resources, the Clintons can always rent an apartment if they want to live in New York, not spend other peoples' money in an illegal transaction obviously meant to buy some new favor from them," stated Judicial Watch Chairman Larry Klayman. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Pressure to rate the Net mounts, from NYT/CyberTimes
[I rather think the Starr Report should be rated indecent, and thus off-limits to library patrons. And cnn.com reports of atrocities in East Timor? Definitely violent and off-limits for teenagers. Oh, wait, a news exemption to the ratings? I'm sure Playboy will love that. Sigh. --Declan] Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 11:30:30 -0400 To: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Barry Steinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cybertimes on International Ratings Declan, The International movement to rate the net grows. Attached is a piece from Cyber Times. Barry http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/09/cyber/articles/25ratings.html September 25, 1999 Internet Rating System Plans to Globalize By PAMELA MENDELS In response to the increasing globalization of the Internet, a content rating and filtering system that was originally developed primarily for the United States will be expanded to encompass a more global audience. Sometime next year, the Internet Content Rating Association is scheduled to launch a re-vamped version of a major ratings and filtering system called RSACi in the hope that it can appeal to parents and Web publishers worldwide. "RSACi was an American response to an American concern," said Stephen C. Balkam, executive director of the Internet Content Rating Association, a four-month old organization that has offices in the United States and Britain. "We need to internationalize the system and governing structure." RSACi was launched in 1996 largely in response to federal government attempts in the United States to regulate indecent content online. The system was an offshoot of an [...] The idea behind a re-vamped RSACi is to develop a rating system that considers the sensibilities of parents around the world, not just American parents, as the Internet begins to attract a bigger global audience. For example, Balkam said that Europeans as a whole have less concern about online nudity and more concern about violence than their American counterparts. In addition, he said, Europeans harbor a stronger consumer resistance to the idea of personal information being bought or sold, and so might want ratings to reflect Web sites' privacy protections for children. The possibility of an international rating system has been in the spotlight lately, because of an ambitious but controversial proposal released at a conference in Munich earlier this month. The document, drawn up by the Bertelsmann Foundation, a German policy research group, recommends a number of ways in which the Internet industry could police itself to help parents prevent their children from accessing potentially harmful material online. Among them is the creation of a new international system whereby Web publishers would rate their own content and parents could then choose either to block or allow access to material based on how the ratings mesh with their values. [...] -- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990927a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Few inhabited planets were impacted during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Fashion Crime Bingo: http://www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~jasoncsl/fishstick/bingo.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New Virus Detected; Is it from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center? With New Virus, Experts Suspect More Died of Encephalitis. Having found they've most likely been looking for the wrong virus, public health officials are investigating whether as many as eight more people than previously reported have died in New York City's mysterious encephalitis outbreak. http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/regional/092799encephalitis.html # New York Fatal Mosquito-Borne Illness May Be African Virus. The mosquito- borne killer disease may not be St. Louis encephalitis, as experts have thought, but rather a similar disease that has never been diagnosed in the Western Hemisphere. http://sightings.com/health3/africanvirus_h.htm : Have you bred/spread a new biowar virus lately? Do you prefer a virus that attacks neural tissue? Are you optimizing its delivery systems? For what?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MASS MARKETING: Over the course of several weeks in 1963 some 900 folks in the villages of Mbale Kigezi, Uganda were seized en masse by a maddening compulsion to run wildly thru the streets clutching chickens and screaming until they fell from exhaustion. Scientists diagnosed it as mass hysteria. : Have you ever run around clutching chickens screaming? Were you insane, hysterical, mind-controlled, or being initiated into a college fraternity? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Prion Diseases Spreading Through Grains? SANDPOINT, ID - Though "mad cow" disease may have spread to UK cattle that ate sheep brains, the infectious crystalline agent responsible, called a prion, did not likely originate there. A new theory on transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) suggests the sheep became initially contaminated by eating fungal infected grains. Deadly TSEs foreshadow a "biological apocalypse" that will make "AIDS seem like an appetizer at a cataclysmic picnic." http://www.sightings.com/health3/prion_h.htm : What's your favorite prion? Have you developed/tested/spread any prions lately? Are you working on a "mad chicken disease"? Do you control KFC?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Morse Code Translator. Security is big these days - with all these expert systems 1024 bit crypto blahblah, one tends to be wary. Enter the one only Morse code translator! Use this page to translate to/from Morse Code. You can listen to the translation too! Now when the Boss demands adherence to special security codes, you can rest assured that your code will make the final cut! http://www.soton.ac.uk/~scp93ch/refer/morseform.html @ Hushmail. Got the pun in the name? Here is a beta version of a new free email facility. Two interesting features are 1024 bit encryption (far better than other free email facilities), and the ability to attach files to your hushmail messages. http://www.hushmail.com/ : Do you trust free security, free email, free Morse code? What email/codes do your Reptilioid/Republican masters use? Are they free? Are "free email" services actually run by biz or govt intel groups bent on stealing y'r data? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Space-O-Rama: # Cosmologists Stretch to Explain Birth of Galaxies. A model of galaxy formation that shows bursts of star-forming activity about 10 billion years ago is igniting debate among cosmologists about how galaxies began. http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/starburst_990921.html : How did your galaxy begin? How will it end? With a bang or a whimper? Why? # The Milky Way Will Never Be the Same. Astronomers say the Milky Way - our home galaxy - is destined to be involved in a disastrous intergalactic collision. http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/big_banger_990921.html : Do you love big crashes? Do you stop and gawk? What's your favorite crash? # Star-Eating Mass Found Near Center of Milky Way. A huge X-ray hiccup has given away a hidden black hole or neutron star, presumably as it finished making a meal of matter from a nearby star. Yummy yummy. http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/saggitarii_burst_990920.html : Have you eaten any stars lately? Did you spread marmalade on them? Tasty? # Forecast Calls for Exciting Meteor Shower. Scientists are beginning to understand a November meteor shower called the Leonids. To know Leo is to love Leo: http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/leonids.html : Do you prefer meteor showers, meteor baths, meteor bubble-baths? Fizzly?? # Migrating Planets. Did the solar system always look the way it does now? New evidence indicates that the outer
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Every time I see this story turning up, it traces back NO FURTHER than Allan Eckert's novel *The HAB Theory*. IMHO, it classifies as an Internet myth at this point. The novel is indeed "interesting fiction;" it was my first contact with pole shift hypotheses. However, Eckert offers no supporting evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to consider the book to be pure science fiction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars
In a message dated 9/27/99 11:57:30 AM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes: Subj:Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars Date: 9/27/99 11:57:30 AM Central Daylight Time From: AOL News BCC: Ahab42 Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars .c The Associated Press LONDON (AP) - Gold prices soared today following an international agreement to limit sales from government and other official stocks. The U.S. dollar was mostly higher and surged against the Japanese yen in Europe. Gold finished at $279.90 in London, up from $269.00 Friday. At midmorning, London gold dealers fixed a recommended price of $281.70. In Zurich, gold traded at $280.93, up from $268.35. Gold rose $16.95 in Hong Kong to $283.00. Monday's prices were the highest since May 7, when Britain announced it planned to sell 125 metric tons of its gold reserves by the end of next year. Gold rallied after the International Monetary Fund's policy-making Interim Committee, meeting in Washington over the weekend, approved a plan to revalue up to 14 million ounces of its gold reserves in transactions with central banks to partly finance a Third World debt initiative. The IMF had dropped plans to sell gold on the open market under pressure from gold-mining countries and U.S. lawmakers. In a further effort to bolster gold prices, central bank officials from 15 nations pledged Sunday they would hold future gold sales to limits already announced. In the currency markets, the euro was quoted at $1.0440 in late European trading, down from $1.0462 Friday. Later, in midday trading in New York, the euro traded at $1.0446. Other dollar rates in Europe, compared with late Friday, included 106.19 Japanese yen, up from 104.08; 1.5340 Swiss francs, up from 1.5296; 1.4694 Canadian dollars, down from 1.4732. The British pound was quoted at $1.6478, up from $1.6424. In midday trading in New York, the dollar bought 106.14 yen, and the pound was worth $1.6460. The U.S. currency rallied against the yen early on short-covering after a stalled selloff overnight, but the future direction depends on the Bank of Japan's policy, analysts said. Short-covering occurs when traders, who earlier had bet on a decline in the dollar, buy dollars to either take profits on the decline or limit their losses as the dollar rises. Currencies of the 11 countries participating in the euro are no longer traded separately, though they remain in use. Based on euro rates, the dollar is worth 1.8743 German marks, up from 1.8687; 6.2855 French francs, up from 6.2681; 2.1120 Dutch guilders, up from 2.1060; 1,855.55 Italian lire, up from 1,850.59. Silver closed in London at $5.36 bid per troy ounce, up from $5.27. AP-NY-09-27-99 1256EDT Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. Announcement: America Online has added Reuters newswires to News Profiles. To add Reuters articles to your daily news delivery, go to KW: A HREF="aol://5862:146"News Profiles/A and click on "Modify Your News Profiles." Then click "Edit" and add Reuters from the list on the left. To edit your profile, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:NewsProfiles"NewsProfiles/A. For all of today's news, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:News"News/A. Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars .c The Associated Press LONDON (AP) - Gold prices soared today following an international agreement to limit sales from government and other official stocks. The U.S. dollar was mostly higher and surged against the Japanese yen in Europe. Gold finished at $279.90 in London, up from $269.00 Friday. At midmorning, London gold dealers fixed a recommended price of $281.70. In Zurich, gold traded at $280.93, up from $268.35. Gold rose $16.95 in Hong Kong to $283.00. Monday's prices were the highest since May 7, when Britain announced it planned to sell 125 metric tons of its gold reserves by the end of next year. Gold rallied after the International Monetary Fund's policy-making Interim Committee, meeting in Washington over the weekend, approved a plan to revalue up to 14 million ounces of its gold reserves in transactions with central banks to partly finance a Third World debt initiative. The IMF had dropped plans to sell gold on the open market under pressure from gold-mining countries and U.S. lawmakers. In a further effort to bolster gold prices, central bank officials from 15 nations pledged Sunday they would hold future gold sales to limits already announced. In the currency markets, the euro was quoted at $1.0440 in late European trading, down from $1.0462 Friday. Later, in midday trading in New York, the euro traded at $1.0446. Other dollar rates in Europe, compared with late Friday, included 106.19 Japanese yen, up from 104.08; 1.5340 Swiss francs, up from 1.5296; 1.4694 Canadian dollars, down from 1.4732. The British pound was
[CTRL] [6] The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism Henrik Kruger Jerry Meldon, Translator South End Press©1980 Box 68 Astor Station Boston, MA 02123 ISBN 0-89608-0319-5 240pps - one edition - out-of-print Orginally published in Danish Smukke Serge og Heroien Bogan 1976 --[6]-- Six NIGHTMARE OF THE AGENTS: THE BEN BARKA AFFAIR The October 1965 kidnaping of the Moroccan exile leader Mehdi Ben Barka was the most controversial and daring affair involving Christian David. Of the twentieth century's most consequential political melodramas, the Ben Barka case ranks with the murder of John F. Kennedy. It remains an unsolved puzzle, with unexploded fireworks that still haunt spooks on both sides of the Atlantic. There is a semiofficial scenario, but it is full of holes. To make the story hold water many of the involved have been killed, threatened, or ruined. In 1980, fifteen years after Ben Barka's disappearance, that story remains as dubious and full of holes as ever. The current version goes something like this: The Moroccan King Hassan II, Interior Minister General Mohammed Oufkir, and his security chief, Colonel Ahmed Dlimi, conspired with members of the French government and its intelligence arm, the SDECE, to lure Ben Barka to Paris, where he would be turned over to Moroccan espionage agents. The abduction was executed as planned on October 29. Ben Barka was taken to a house in the Paris suburb, Fontenay-le-Vicomte. The following evening General Oufkir, Colonel Dlimi, and Moroccan intelligence agents arrived. Soon thereafter Ben Barka was tortured and killed by Oufkir himself, and buried by hired crooks. Implicated were the Moroccan government, certain leading French politicians, the French intelligence agency SDECE, and gangsters connected to it; no one else, according to the official version, was involved. De Gaulle believed, with good reason, that he had been hoodwinked by some of his own men who had been in cahoots with the CIA, which he blamed for the entire affair. Amazingly, though, the CIA came out smelling like a rose. The only ones to be disgraced in the ensuing trial were the Moroccans and French intelligence, their underworld allies having long since been compromised.. Not coincidentally, the trial was punctuated by interruptions, postponements, the liquidation of two star witnesses, the disappearance of a number of the implicated, and the deaths of three French attorneys for the Ben Barka family. Oufkir and members of his security staff were sentenced in absentia to life in prison. Several Frenchmen, among them police and intelligence agents, receiived-up to eight years. SDECE chief Paul Jacquier was sacked. Prime Minister Georges Pompidou, Interior Minister Roger Frey, and de Gaulle's son-in-law-, member of Parliament Pierre Lemarchand, were all blasted by de Gaulle. To the stunned populace that was as far as the scandal went, and it was far enough. But what really happened? Why did so many struggle so desperately to keep the lid on? So far the succession of theories and rumors have all lacked credibility. However, in recent years additional aspects of the Ben Barka affair have come to light through scattered details in many books and articles. Alone, these facts seem insignificant. Together they form a lead that can be followed. I emphasize strongly that the following scenario is my own. My linking of the many facts is hypothetical. The following, therefore, is not necessarily "the truth about the Ben Barka affair" nor an exhaustive account of what occurred, because this is not a book about the Ben Barka affair. Rather, I try to show that we still haven't been told the truth, that the CIA was involved, and that the Ben Barka affair has to this day left some unfinished business in the netherworld of spooks. Furthermore, this will clarify one reason for Christian David's anxieties in jail. Mehidi Ben Barka wa's forty-four years old when he disappeared. From an early age he had been a zealous champion of Moroccan independence and of a Socialist future for his country. For a period in the late forties he was the mathematics instructor of Hassan, son of Mohammed V, who became the present King Hassan II. In 1952, with Morocco still under French rule, Ben Barka was banished to the desert, and there he devoted much of his time to study. In 1956 Morocco gained its independence. Three years later Ben Barka founded the Union Nationale des Forces Populaire (UNFP). In 1961 Hassan was crowned and appointed himself the prime minister. In the 1963 National Assembly election Ben Barka's party, the UNFP, won twenty-eight seats, while another reformist party, Istiqlal, gained forty-one. The two were expected to form a coalition, which was a threat to the king's ruling party, FDIC, which itself claimed sixty-nine seats. In July 1963, two months after the election, security chief Oufkir disclosed a "plot" against the king. A sworn devotee of
[CTRL] [3] The Arizona Project
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Arizona Project Michael Wendland©1977 ISBN 0-8362-0728-9 Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc. 6700 Squibb Rd. Misson Kansas 66202 276 pps. - first edition - out-of-print New revised edition - available amazon.com Paperback, 304pp. ISBN: 0945165021 Blue Sky Press, Incorporated June 1988 --[3]-- -3- IRE and Punishment News reporters make enemies.. It comes with the territory. They step on toes, malign reputations and, occasionally, write stories so sensational that people go to jail. Investigative reporters, columnists and radio and television commentators make more enemies than general assignment reporters. Revenge is a constant occupational hazard and not a few journalists have been martyred for their work. Elijah P. Lovejoy was one of the first to die in the line of duty. Owner of the Alton (Illinois) Observer, Lovejoy was the prototype of the crusading editor. He began the small paper in July 1836, and soon afterwards lashed out against slavery on his editorial page. A mob of townsfolk reacted violently. They ransacked Lovejoy's office and tossed his printing press into the Mississippi. Antislavery news stories incited two similar incidents, and each time the Observer's press was destroyed. On September 20, 1837, a fourth printing press arrived. A crowd gathered on Alton's main street as Lovejoy and a group of thirty supporters supervised unloading and installation. The crowd became ugly by the night of the following day and demanded that Lovejoy leave town. He refused, vowing to continue his support for abolition. The mayor urged him to surrender the press but he stood firm. The mob finally stormed the Observer and burned it down. Lovejoy was shot in the chest and died. His murderer was never discovered. The martyrology of American journalism includes the following names: Wesley L. Robertson, editor of the Gallatin (Missouri) Democrat, shot in 1919 by a local politician for linking him to bootleggers. Don Mellet, editor of the Canton (Ohio) Daily News, shot in 1926 by a Canton policeman for exposing vice payoffs to city police. Gerald Buckley, radio commentator on Detroit's WTK, shot in 1930 by three unknown assailants within hours after broadcasting his promise to reveal startling facts on the city's organized crime and corruption on future programs, W. H. "Bill" Mason, radio commentator and sports editor of the Alice (Texas) Echo, shot in 1949 by a deputy sheriff after announcing on the air that the deputy's tavern doubled as a whorehouse. Emilio Milian, the forty-five-year-old news director of Miami's Spanish-language radio station WQBA, was luckier than Don Bolles. Six weeks before the Phoenix incident Milian lost his legs in a similar car bombing. A Cuban himself, he had delivered a number of scathing editorials denouncing a rash of shootings and bombings that had terrorized southeast Florida's large Cuban population that spring. Miami police believe that whoever booby-trapped his car was retaliating for those radio editorials. Despite fifty thousand dollars in reward money, the case was never solved. Until recent years, reporters had the public image of used car salesmen. Portrayed in movies as arrogant and compromising types with questionable ethics, they were perceived as scoop-hungry sensationalists, never willing to let the facts stand in the way of a good story. But then, a number of things happened. A grubby little war that took fifty thousand Americans in Indochina was probably the catalyst. Almost overnight the press started catching our government telling lies. The first lies -were about the war and our conduct of it. There was the My Lai massacre and the Pentagon Papers. Later, the lies seemed to spread everywhere. In 1972, there was a third-rate burglary whose cover-up was initially exposed in print; this was followed by revelations that the FBI and the CIA were not what they should be. On the local level hundreds of hometown reporters searched for mini-Watergates and found some. Government chicanery and corruption, unethical business alliances, organized crime and union racketeering were the targets of newsmen across the nation. Investigative reporters became our new folk heroes and Don Bolles had been one of them. His murder had scared those who practiced the craft. On the afternoon of the bombing Arizona Attorney General Bruce Babbitt extended the chill even further. "It's a departure from the unwritten rule of organized crime that you don't harm members of the press, the cops or the judges, " he said. " I suppose the message is, if it can happen to Don Bolles, then it can happen to anyone." Later, Maricopa County Attorney Don Harris was even more direct. "The Bolles bombing was done as a gesture to the news media to stop looking into this community." Nationwide, reporters got the message. And it made them both frightened and furious. Ron Koziol was late for work the morning of June 3, 1976. State construction crews were repairing
Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector- To Monsanto: You wish to destroy forest, create desert, and control oasis. Go scriosa an diabhal do chuid airgid caim. Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia over MONSANTO and its genetically modified seeds. US even used the ECHELON system to intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto. NSA denies this but they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability"). The press in the US has been mostly silent Gutless. This is a prime example of a transnational firm implementing New World Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through seeds and water. It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as firm, through revocation of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO. It is a narrow and specific target. Very vulnerable. Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place (Monsanto products) and infowar. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY
-Caveat Lector- Er, Kite-flying is a hazard? To whom or what? Is Rudy afraid his cape is going to get caught in the kite-strings when he's doing his Superman shtick? Has his ego gotten so big that he thinks if a kite hits it his head will explode? -Original Message- From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY -Caveat Lector- What hasn't gotten much press outside of the kite-flying community is Guliani's crackdown on kite flyers, banning kite flying in most of NYC's parks...he claims it's a hazard... :-7 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Shepherd for the Sheeple
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A - Laissez Faire City Times September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38 Editor Chief: Emile Zola A Shepherd for the Sheeple by Sunni Maravillosa Many individuals understand the analogy of the state being a protective shepherd of its citizens. Indeed, many well-intentioned people think this is an acceptable activity for the state to engage in. Those who value liberty more than security are apt to think otherwise, however, and with good reason. The United States federal government is an excellent example of the inevitable outcome of good intentions coupled with state control. In its never-ending bid to protect us from ourselves, the number of laws that control what a citizen can and cannot do, or that mandate paperwork, fees, waiting periods, and other life-draining measures has grown exponentially. That trend has continued at the state and local levels as well. The result is, many legal experts have opined, a tangle of regulations that make it virtually impossible for anyone to conduct business and be in full compliance with all relevant laws. In the United States, however, the law is only one aspect of the way the US government shepherds its flock. Agencies such as the Food and Drug Administration, the Department of Agriculture, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the Drug Enforcement Agency are charged with creating and enforcing national policy in their various areas of jurisdiction, all with the lofty goal of "the good of the people" in mind. Since such agencies are paid for by the state (never mind that the real payee is the taxpayerthe bureaucrats conveniently overlook this fact routinely) and are dependent upon the state for their continued existence, which "good" do you think will be served when the good of the people and the good of the state are at cross purposes? The War on (some) Drugs is a classic example of disastrous public policy that is touted as being "for the good of the people." Begun as nothing more than racism focused on some minorities choices of mind-altering substances (primarily the Chinese and their use of heroin), it is today an enormous sinkhole of resourcesincluding human lives ( http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.35/daniel.html). It is extremely irrational that highly addictive nicotine is so readily available, yet less addictive morphine and heroin are not. It is illogical that alcoholresponsible for millions of dollars of damage, and many deaths annuallyis legal to adults above a minimum age, yet marijuanafairly widely used, yet without similar costs in its wakeis not. In fact, its particularly egregious that marijuana is classified as a Schedule I substance (no recognized medical use), because the evidence is increasingly supportive of a wide variety of beneficial uses for it. Among these include: reducing the intraocular pressure that threatens the vision of individuals with glaucoma; pain relief for some chronic pain conditions; nausea relief; stimulating the appetite; and anxiety reduction for certain conditions. As individuals become aware of these uses for marijuana, and the relatively low risks associated with its use, support for medical marijuana (MMJ) has grown. Voters in several states, including California, Arizona, and Oregon have passed laws legalizing MMJ use with a physicians approval. Washington DCs MMJ ba llot result was suppressed for months because the powers-that-be couldnt decide how to handle the issue; now that theyve been announcedsurprise, surprisethe result has been declared "moot". (That should be sufficient to wake up anyone who still believes the civics-lesson crap about voting actually making a difference.) Yet, like hungry dogs guarding their bones, agencies involved in the War on (some) Drugs continue the press against marijuana use. In the states where MMJ use is now legal, the DEAwithout so much as a blinkhas continued its rabid hounding of MMJ users. Part of this activity seems driven by DEA boss Barry McCaffrey, who gives all the appearance of a zealot in his tireless crusade against "the evil weed." As a result, critically ill people have endured the feds best drug raid tacticsas if someone taking chemotherapy would be able to wrestle a team of the boys in blue to the ground with her or his bare hands. Such actions make it clear that in this case, the good of the people is far from uppermost in the DEAs decision-making. Interestingly enough, a recent decision handed down by the Ninth Circuit Federal Appeals Court will help shed some light on the states motivations in the matter. According to a September 20 Los Angeles Times story (http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/t84324.html), the three-judge panel has ruled that marijuana is "legal for the seriously ill". The
[CTRL] [BRIGADE] PJB Praises Quayles 'Uncommon Decency, High Ability'
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 27, 1999 BUCHANAN PRAISES QUAYLE'S 'UNCOMMON DECENCY, HIGH ABILITY' MCLEAN, VA -- Today, Republican candidate Patrick J. Buchanan released the following statement: "The departure of Dan Quayle removes from the presidential lists a man of uncommon decency and high ability, who has borne the wounds of political conflict with far more grace than would any of those who unjustly inflicted them. Of those running, I can think of none with superior knowledge or experience, or the temperament to be President of the United States. I regret the inexorable power of Big Money robbed him of the opportunity to fairly compete. Shelley and I wish him and Marilyn all the best. He is a good man and deserved better than he got." For more information contact: JoAnne Hansen at 703.734.2700 --- 30 Spread the word -- forward this email across the USA! ** Don't Miss Out - Join the BRIGADE Email List! To Subscribe-Unsubscribe: Click on/Click off at: http://www.gopatgo2000.org/000-p-brigade-list-subscribe.html *** Help Pat and the Brigade in our Battle for the White House... Go to: http://www.gopatgo2000.org/000-v-helppat.html *** Official WebSite for Patrick J. Buchanan for President Web: http://www.gopatgo2000.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 1-703-734-2700 WebMaster - Linda Muller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dr. Dolecek: I ACCUSE!: Anti-Serb attitudes of VACLAV HAVEL
-Caveat Lector- The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU *** I ACCUSE! *** Dr Rajko Dolecek, PRAGUE, March 1999 http://www.srpska-mreza.com/ddj/Kosovo/articles/Dolecek.html [Citat #1]: THE ANTI-SERB ATTITUDES OF PRESIDENT VACLAV HAVEL [Citat #2]: THE CZECH PRESIDENT MR. VACLAV HAVEL DID NOT DISAPPOINT HIS MENTORS * [Citat #1]: = THE ANTI-SERB ATTITUDES OF PRESIDENT VACLAV HAVEL = The traditional friendship between the Czechs and the Serbs was seriously damaged during the recent (1991-96) tragic events in Yugoslavia. The official Czech authorities, a substantial part of them, and a big part of the Czech media, must be blamed for it. Both the politicians and the media parroted the informations and comments from the West: Most of the Czech press is, oddly enough, owned by the Germans, even the well sold Mlada fronta DNES. Practically all the regional papers are in the German hands as well. In many newspapers exist "instant experts on the Yugoslav affairs" whose comments are full of disinformations about the Serbs. Their vocabulary suggests a similarity with the Newspeak in "Nineteen Eighty-Four" by G. Orwell, quite often. A part of the responsibility for the deterioration of the Serb-Czech relations is undoubtedly connected with the name of Mr. Václav Havel, president of the Czech Republic. His anti-Serb statements were often corrected by the Czech former Prime minister Mr. Václav Klaus. Czechs were astonished by the words of their President in Washington at the end of April 93, when the Memorial of holocaust was opened there. He said that it would be necessary to bomb (the Serbian positions, added the AP) in Bosnia-Herzegovina, to end the war there. Why did he tell it? Whom wished he to please? Mr. Klaus, the Prime minister tried to correct him already the next day: "It is a too simplified evaluation of the events in Yugoslavia, because the situation is much more complicated there and it is not so easy to determine the culprit." Since that time on, Mr. Havel referred repeatedly to the army of Serbs from Bosnia-Herzegovina as "the wild army of Karadzic", he called them "the thugs", "the bandits", "the criminals". During the fighting in Srebrenica his words about the Serbs and their army were very rude. But he insulted the Serbs very much during the anti-Serb spectacle in September-October 95 called "The month of Bosnia and Herzegovina" in Prague. There were no Serbs from Republika Srpska there, and the very few Serbs who were present did not represent anybody. The old arch-enemy of the Serbs, Mr. Otto von Habsburg made caustic remarks about them. Mr. Izetbegovic was received by Mr. Havel with an utter pomp and ceremony, who spoke again about the thugs, bandits, criminals of Karadzic and Mladic. At that time Mr. Klaus, the Prime minister, refused to meet Mr. Izetbegovic and left Prague. He declared then: "My attitude is the attitude of an analyst who likes to know all the facts including those not chosen, because of an one-sided way... It seems to me terribly simplified to proclaim that the Serbs are post-communists, while the others were democrats..." When the Croatian army attacked in spite of all the agreements and regardless of the presence of the UNPROFOR, the territory of the Republic Srpska Krajina, killing many civilians (e.g., 22nd of January 93 its southern part, on 9th September 93 the villages Divoselo, Medak, Citluk near Gospic - where the French troops of UNPROFOR behaved in an utterly cowardly way), our president had nothing to say. When the Croatian troops invaded the western Slavonia killing hundreds of civilians, burning and looting their property, during the operation Storm which ended in expulsion of 200.000 Serbs and in massacres of those who stayed at home, our president had no words of compassion. He just said that he is not happy with those events, but that Croatia just managed to reintegrate its lost territory and that it was not "the wild army of Karadzic". Our president never spoke about the atrocities made by the Croats and Muslims, he strictly adhered to the view of the West. But, nevertheless he used to say that he had nothing against the Serbs as a nation. He even said (12th January 97) that he had appreciated a lot the help of the Serbs when he had been a dissident - in 1966 a Serbian theatre (Studio 212) performed in Belgrade his play "The Garden Party", among the first in the world. But, regardless of this, he had nothing to say about the punishment of the whole Serb nation by the draconic sanctions from 1992, during which and because of which thousands died, he did not comment the expulsion of Yugoslavia from the WHO in 1993, he never tried to help the Czech trusted friends, the Serbs, by e.g., a peace initiative of his own, by words of compassion. A humane man who feels so
[CTRL] (Fwd) Are You a Target of the News?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: 27 Sep 1999 19:21:44 - To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Common Courage Political Literacy Course" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Are You a Target of the "News"? Information on this email course is at the bottom. For Whom the Camera Blinks Corporations spend more than $10 billion on public relations every year. But we don't have to worry. First, lies are readily apparent. Second, there are limits to how much misinformation is possible. Take the news: as Dan Rather's autobiography proclaimed, "The Camera Never Blinks." If only. From advertising to lobbying, from censorship to coopting the enemy, from hiring experts to lying with statistics, public relations has become the science of making democracy safe for corporate power. Many of these topics will be the subject of future emails, but for now, consider just five techniques deployed to affect what you see as "news." First, size matters: there are 130,000 reporters in the U.S. -- and 150,000 practitioners of PR. "The best PR," boasts one PR executive, "ends up looking like news." By one study's estimate, 40% of all news is unedited material straight from PR offices, much of it in "video news releases" that are often run on TV news programs with no mention of the firms who produced them. If you can't see the interests of those telling you the "news," you can't decipher the bias. A powerful lock on what the media do produce is corporate control of advertising revenue the media depend on to survive. "Large corporations pump $100 billion per year in advertising dollars into the coffers of U.S. media alone," write John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton, authors of " udge is Good for You: Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry." Quoting media critic Ben Bagdikian, they note "selecting news in order to make advertising more effective is becoming so common that it has achieved the status of scientific precision and publishing wisdom." The authors continue, "PR executive Robert Dilenschneider admits that 'the notion that business and editorial decisions in the press and the media are totally separate is largely a myth.'" A third influence is that this power is concentrated through mergers and acquisitions: "Two of the biggest PR firms, Burson-Marsteller and Hill Knowlton are owned by two of the biggest advertising conglomerates, respectively Young Rubicam and the WPP Group. These two PR/advertising giants purchase billions of dollars of media print space, TV and radio time. Their clients include Philip Morris, McDonald's, Ford Motor Company, Johnson Johnson, ATT, Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Nutrasweet, Revlon, Reebok, and hundreds of other major advertisers," write Stauber and Rampton. Another means to curry the media's favor--do they really need more?--"is to court individual journalists who have become media celebrities, offering them large sums of money for a brief appearance and talk," Stauber and Rampton write. "During the 1993-94 debate over health care reform, the National Journal reported that drug companies and trade associations were 'practically throwing money at journalists to get them to speak at their events.'" They cite a more recent example in ABC News's Cokie Roberts who accepted a $35,000 fee to speak to the Junior League of Fort Lauderdale, subsidized by JM Family Enterprises, a multi-billion dollar company that distributes Toyotas. In a fifth but by no means last tactic used to shape the news, "PR firms also hire journalists to participate in training sessions so PR flacks can hone their skills in handling media situations. In Sierra Magazine, reporter Dashka Slater describes her experience working for Robert J. Meyers and Associates, a Houston-based consulting firm that hired her and two other journalists to help ARCO Petroleum practice its PR plan for handling the news media following environmental disasters. In a staged run-through of an oil spill, Slater and the other reporters were assigned to play the part of the 'predatory press.' Professional actors were brought in to play the role of environmentalists. ARCO employees and government officials played themselves. 'The drills give company flacks the opportunity to practice varnishing the truth just in case the mop-up doesn't go as planned,' wrote Slater. 'Mostly the company and government spokespeople did what they had learned to do in numerous media-training workshops: convey as little information as possible in as many words as possible.' In the past 6 years, Meyers and Associates have conducted more than 400 such training drills." Whether it's creating the news, funding the news, concentrating its power, buying journalists, or using journalists to practice dry runs for crisis management, PR firms don't have to worry whether the camera blinks: they control what it looks at. For more info about "Toxic Sludge is Good for You: Lies, Damn
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- OTOH...see Neal Stephenson's *Cryptonomicon*, which speculates that gold could be used as the basis of a transnational cybercurrency independent of national currencies. The intrinsic value of a substance, in any event, has no necessary relationship to its use as a medium of exchange; see Shea and Wilson, *Illuminatus*, sub "flaxscript" and "hempscript". Consider also the widespread use of Marlboros as a medium of exchange in many parts of the Third World. -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 8:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone? -Caveat Lector- Thanks Ric, So I gather I am barking up the wrong tree.. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 9/27/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson from The Year of the Rat by Edward Timperlake William C. Triplett II Among those who made money on the Beijing Enterprises disaster were the Riadys. They have two powerful allies in Beijing/Hong Kong financial circles: Shen Jueren, leader of China Resources, and Li Ka-shing of the ill-fated Beijing Enterprises. They are all connected as partners in the Riady's Hong Kong Chinese Bank. Just before the Asian meltdown, Lippo Ltd. and China Resources Ltd. announced share placement with a Beijing Enterprises subsidiary. It appears that, in essence, Beijing Enterprises acquired a stake in a Lippo company listed in Hong Kong. Lippo received HK$897 million in net proceeds (approximately US$122 million) from its deal with Beijing Enterprises. The money was then moved to Lippo/China Resources Limited, which had previously been identified as an associate of Chinese military intelligence. This means that Li Ka-shing, a senior player with Beijing Enterprises, is connected in a move of more than US$100 million to Mochtar Riady's empire, which in turn is connected to Chinese military intelligence. - Gold Market European Central Banks Ban Gold Sales Good news for the gold price. Fifteen European central banks including the Bank of England last night announced a surprise five-year moratorium on all new sales of gold held in official reserves. The move was organised by the G-10 group of central bankers, chaired by Eddie George, governor of the Bank of England, and was announced by Wim Duisenberg, European Central Bank president, who is attending the annual International Monetary Fund annual meeting in Washington. The price of gold has seen heavy falls and volatility since the decision announced by the UK Treasury earlier this year to sell 415 tonnes of their reserves out of a total of 715 tonnes. So far it has sold 50 tonnes. Expectations that official holders of gold would sell more have been important in depressing the price. The central banks involved in the moratorium hold about 70 per cent of the global official holdings of gold. Together with the US, which publicly disavows any intention of selling gold, and the IMF, which has recently cancelled a plan for open market gold sales after opposition in the US Congress, the amount of gold apparently safe from official sales comprises 90 per cent of official holdings. The moratorium extends to further gold leasings by the central banks. Leasings have enabled speculators to drive the price of gold down by taking short positions - borrowing and then selling the commodity. Mr Duisenberg said that the intention of the sale was to maximise certainty in the gold market following recent volatility. He said that central bankers "had not been immune" to the intense lobbying by the World Gold Council and gold exporting countries following the UK's decision, which he blamed for the price volatility. The UK Treasury said yesterday it strongly welcomed the move, but said that the UK would continue with its planned sales over the next three years. The Financial Times, September 27, 1999 Japanese Finance Japan Agrees to Debase the Yen Money creation ex nihilo The Bank of Japan has responded to domestic and international pressure to ease monetary policy to weaken the yen, enabling Japan to win an unexpected expression of concern from other Group of Seven governments. Masaru Hayami, the governor of the BoJ, said in Washington on Saturday: "We are exploring how we could improve money market operations so as to assure the further permeation of liquidity in the context of a zero interest rate policy." The statement was a clear sign by the central bank that it was not resisting moves to ease monetary policy. Last week, differences between the BoJ and the Japanese government emerged over the issue of undoing the effect of foreign exchange intervention, driving stocks down sharply and making the yen rise. The bank's statement, together with a reiterated commitment from the Japanese government to a further fiscal stimulus, were sufficient to win an admission from the G7 finance ministers and central bank governors meeting in Washington that they shared Japan's concern about the impact of the yen's appreciation. An unexpectedly explicit G7 statement left open the possibility of co-ordinated international action to head off the Japanese currency's appreciation. The communiqué said the group "shared Japan's concern about the potential impact of the yen's appreciation for the Japanese economy and the world economy". It added that they welcomed indications by the Japanese authorities that "policies would be conducted appropriately" in view of this potential impact. "We will continue to monitor developments in exchange markets and co-operate as appropriate," the G7 said. Paul Chertkow, head of global currency
[CTRL] Fwd: Danforth Probe Compromised, GOP Complicit RE: Waco massacre/D.C. Weekly on Waco--Excellent Article!
9.26.99 Fla. GOP Opponent Thompson Says Reno Compromised by DUI Arrests, Use of Prostitutes, Ties to Porno Organized Crime; Enabling Use As "Expendable" "Firewall" Re: Administration Illegalities, Atrocities Claims GOP Fully Aware of Reno's Past, Administration Manipulations During Reno Confirmation Hearings Says Danforth Probe WILL NOT Touch Info - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subject: Re: WACO: BLUEPRINT FOR DISASTER - DANFORTH WACO PROBE http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb77532MyNum=93828895 5P=YesTL=938272096 POSTED APFN MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 07:25:08 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My name is Jack Thompson. I am the last Republican to run against Janet Reno, as I was her opponent in 1988 for the office of Dade County (Florida) State Attorney. One of the reasons I ran against Reno was the fact that she was blackmailed by a criminal pornography enterprise. I gave the proof in my campaign. I also provided to Bill Clinton, before he even nominated her to be Attorney General (I heard from a friend in the Justice Department that she was on the "short list" of nominees), not only the proof of her blackmail but also the evidence of her five drunk driving incidents, her use of call girls, and her disturbing ties to organized crime. I gave this information to Clinton through my best friend at Vanderbilt Law School, Class of 1976, an attorney by the name of M. Samuel Jones, who by then was a partner to Bruce Lindsey in the Little Rock firm of Wright, Lindsey Jennings. Confirmation that Clinton got all the information that disqualified Reno from practicing law, let alone being the AG, came in a phone call from someone at the White House before her confirmation hearings who wanted to know all that I knew. His name? Lanny Davis. Davis clearly wanted to know what I knew not to disqualify her but to discredit me should it all hit the fan in public. This was the beginning of my education about the ways of Washington and of the political elite of both parties who protect themselves rather than the interests of the American people. I say that because now I am writing letters to Senator Danforth to ask him to subpoena me to testify in his "investigation" of what happened at Waco and its aftermath in order that his team might consider the fact that Reno had a powerful disincentive to get to the bottom of Waco. The disincentive is, of course, the blackmail information that the President has on Reno. It is how he has kept her on line on Chinagate and every other "gate" for which she has proven so useful. The reason Danforth won't want to get into that is the complicity of the Senate Republicans in assuring that Reno became A.G. Orrin Hatch, for example, knew of the five police officers who pulled her over for drunk driving while she was State Attorney down here. How do I know? Because his Judiciary Committee staffer, John Bliss, told me that Hatch had the police officers but did not want to go public with them because "The Senate Republicans don't want to mess with the Anita Hill crowd again." So, folks, there you have it: Danforth won't get to the bottom of Waco, which means getting to the bottom of the cover-up, because to do so exposes the Republicans as complicit in the Waco disaster. They knew Reno was a drunk and a compromised one at that, who could be controlled with this and other information by the extortionate White House, and yet they sat on their hands at the moment that she could have been denied the post. Orrin Hatch has the blood of 24 kids on his hands. I have told all this to Danforth, and he won't even have his people talk to me. I said this on Fox News Channel on Labor Day while being interviewed about Waco, and the interviewer freaked and pulled the plug on the interview. Fox News, if you're wanting to do something, should be inundated with calls asking me to be interviewed in depth about this. And Danforth should be pressured to talk to me. I leave it in your hands. I have tried everything to get this word out. I can testify to all of this under oath, and I have witnesses to corroborate it all. But America will not know the truth about Waco until it knows that Reno was picked by Clinton to be his firewall between all his criminality and accountability for it. Jack Thompson, 305-666-4366 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should The Senate Be Sued? http://www.esotericworldnews.com/sued.htm Sue The United States Senate??? YES!! Contact: John B. Thompson, Attorney 1172 South Dixie Highway, Suite 111 Coral Gables, Florida 33146-2750 Phone Fax: 305-666-4366 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John B. Thompson)
[CTRL] Names With Blood on Their Hands
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A - Laissez Faire City Times September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Names With "Blood on Their Hands" by Richard S. Ehrlich JAKARTA, Indonesia -- Now that foreign troops have landed in East Timor, Western diplomats and others are starting to name names of military officials who allegedly "have blood on their hands." Recent East Timor killings, mostly by anti-independence militias and the military, are the latest in a 23-year legacy of Indonesian rule which has left up to 200,000 East Timorese dead. International investigators, prompted by demands for a war crimes tribunal, are now tracking the most recent bloodstains to determine where they lead in the military hierarchy. One respected Western diplomat, who follows East Timor very closely, told The Laissez Faire City Times, "These are the people who have blood on their hands." He then pushed a button on his embassy's computer and printed a list of five names, all of them powerful military men who shaped East Timor's recent history. The five people on the list have not been charged with any wrongdoing. No hard, direct evidence has publicly appeared to link them to any crime. Any final determination of their alleged involvement in East Timor's slaughter and destruction would require objective proof or other testimony. The list, however, indicated the focus and direction of current inquiries by diplomats and investigators. Diplomats said they are discussing among themselves, and with others, the behavior of various military officers to discover what they knew, when they knew it, and what orders they may have given before, during and after East Timor's August 30 vote for independence. Referring to the post-election bloodshed -- and claims that the military armed, trained and orchestrated the militias to kill East Timorese independence supporters -- the Western diplomat said, "This was planned by the military months and months before." The first name on the diplomat's alphabetized list was Major-General Adam Damiri, based on the island of Bali, which is the military command headquarters for nearby East Timor. The diplomat's dossier described Damiri as "Bali Territorial Commander, military chief responsible for East Timor" and "seen as hardliner on East Timor and possible break in the chain of command." The second name on the list was Major-General Zacky Anwar Makarim, also in the Indonesian military. Makarim's dossier listed him as "former intelligence chief." His dossier added that Makarim was "seen in Dili during militia attacks on April 17, 1999. Appointed as head of military in East Timor shortly afterwards, until his removal in August 1999. Investigated by the United Nations." American officials have also pointed at Makarim. The Hong Kong-based Far Eastern Economic Review magazine reported, "Diplomatic sources say influential (US) Democratic Senator Tom Harkin personally urged President B. J. Habibie to replace Zacky." Independence guerrilla leader Xanana Gusmao -- now in Australia and expected to become East Timor's first president -- said on August 5, "I told Zacky, 'If (independence rebels) FALINTIL is disarmed, who can assure us that after the ballot that you will not try to kill us, to kill the people, and create chaos in East Timor'." Number three on the diplomat's list was Colonel Tono Suratman, an Indonesian military officer listed as "Catholic. Pope's security detail during Indonesia visit. Special Forces. Airborne trained at Fort Benning, Georgia. Infantry. Kopassus. Investigated by the UN for crimes against humanity." Kopassus is Indonesia's Special Forces, and was involved in covert and psychological "psy op" operations throughout Indonesia for many years. During the 1990s, US Special Forces trained Kopassus in counterterrorism, sniper fire, and other elite skills, while human rights groups repeatedly voiced allegations that Kopassus tortured victims. Suratman, meanwhile, also reportedly trained in Australia, and served in a UN peacekeeping mission in Iraq. Number four on the diplomat's list was Major-General Kiki Syahnakri, who has since become head of Indonesia's Restoration Operation Command in East Timor. Ironically, he greeted UN-mandated Commander of the International Force for East Timor, Major-General Peter Cosgrove, when the first peacekeepers arrived at Dili airport. Syahnakri is currently working alongside Cosgrove in East Timor. Syahnakri's dossier said he was "suggested as being behind the militia activities, along with Zacky Anwar." Syahnakri was also described in the dossier as a member of the military's dreaded Kopassus Special Forces active in East Timor and "fluent in the local language Tetun. Spent 11 years in the province in
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- As it happens, I was talking last night with my sister, whose husband died last year of lung cancer...or rather of the effects of the chemotherapy which killed the cancer. He had had his left lung removed; when the autopsy was done after his death, they discovered that there was no sign of cancer in his right lung. What killed him? The chemo caused massive bleeding in the remaining lung. "Orthodox" medicine is more correctly called "allopathy"--the use of poisons to affect the functioning of the human body. Most of the time these are dilute; but--as my sister pointed out--this isn't always the case, as in chemotherapy for cancer. I can witness to the power of side-effects myself; as part of treatment for pulmonary sarcoidosis last year, I was put on long-term high-dose prednisone. After six weeks of the prednisone, I developed a humongous strep infection in the lining of my lung, which resulted in my spending three weeks in the hospital, a good bit of that with a chest tube draining fluid. The total amount of fluid removed from my chest came to close to a full liter (that's roughly a quart, for the metrically-challenged). Allopathy, in short, killed my brother-in-law, and nearly killed me. As I understand it, what homeopathic medicines do is to enhance the ability of the human body to heal itself. No, homeopathy doesn't work all the time; but then neither does allopathy, and homeopathic remedies are much safer than allopathic ones. Any medicine is inherently dangerous. There are an awful lot of herbal medicines which you should never use without the close supervision of a physician. But homeopathic medicines are much safer to use than their "orthodox" counterparts, because they have far fewer side-effects. I often use a specific combination of homeopathic remedies for my arthritis, which relieves pain when NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs), even very expensive NSAIDs, will not. And with the homeopathics I don't run the risk of intestinal bleeding, which is always a risk with NSAIDs. If you investigate how allopathic medicines work, you will discover that, in fact, there are some of them that increase in potency the more they are diluted. (No, I'm not sure which ones...can someone on the list help out here?) This is widely known throughout the medical and pharmaceutical communities, but for obvious reasons not well publicized. I suspect that the real issue in the suppression of homeopathy, and also of herbal medicine, is that the medical profession is afraid that if it became widely known that highly effective remedies for common conditions are available, which do not have the devastating side-effects of so many chemical remedies, the public which is now paying them so handsomely will decide to check out the contents of their gardens instead. But THAT is, perhaps, the subject of a new thread. ;^) -Original Message- From: Gavin Phillips [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply -Caveat Lector- snip Read "Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries" by Jonathan Eisen. I cannot recommend this book too highly. Very well written and documented suppression of very inexpensive and non toxic cancer treatments. Other information about suppressed alternative energy inventors. An excellent book. Gavin. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- Are you taking the piss Ric or being serious?? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone? -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going?? The Illuminati are collecting all the world's available gold for delivery -- in 2003 -- to the Anunnaki Serpent masters on Nibiru, the 3400 year eliptical orbit '12th planet'. But you knew that. Yes, it's obvious. And Andy Groves uses his Bilderberger links to get just enough industrial gold to keep the processors rolling off the production line. In fact, ALL electronics components makers are part of that network. ALL electronics devices are used for mind-control. We are being prepared. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Strange but true
-Caveat Lector- Strange but true Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946. Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960. The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters. Both were particularly concerned with civil rights. Both wives lost their children while living in the White House. Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both Presidents were shot in the head. Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy. Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln. Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners. Both successors were named Johnson. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908. John Wilkes Booth,who assassinated Lincoln,was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939. Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are comprised of fifteen letters. Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Kennedy.' Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln.' Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater. Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials. AND HERE'S THE KICKER... A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland. A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bivens v. FBI
-Caveat Lector- Listers: I have been researching different court decisions through a great URL on the Net called Findlaw -- actually most of the U.S. body of law and decisions (which define the laws in greater depth) are available on the Net now. This particular decision may be of interest to mind control victims who want to attempt litigation in a federal court against the FBI -- or even other govt agencies. I put a sample brief, which could be used by victims (H. Girard's brief from a year ago) on the Net a while back -- but the Bivens decision is pretty well known. I am not sure what decisions may have preceeded this decision -- and may be more important, but victims should know of this bit of pre-Watergate law. Now FBI agents are not often "seen" breaking and entering homes with out sufficient cause or action, they find OTHER ways to assault victims, and Bivens may be one of the reasons. See below -- Judith _ BIVENS ACTION BIVENS ACTIONS Damages remedies for constitutional violations committed by federal agents were not available until 1971. Althouth the Supreme Court had long held that federal courts had the power to grant relief not expressly authorized by statute as well as the power to adjust remedies to grant relief made necessary by the particular circumstances of the case at hand, it was not until the Court's decision in Bivens v. 6 unknown named agents of the FBI 403US388, 91SCT1999, 29LE2d 619(1971) that a violation of a specific constitutional amendment by a federal agent was recognized as giving rise to a cause of action for money damages. In Bivens, the plaintiff alleged that federal agents had arrested him and searched his home without a warrant or probable cause in violation of the 4th amendment's ban against unreasonable searches and seizures. The Court upheld the sufficiency of the complaint in the face of a motion to dismiss for failure to state a cause of action and rejected the argument that a state tort action provided an adequate and exclusive judicial remedy. Even though there was no specific authority for such a civil action in the Constitution, the Bil of Rights, or any federal statute, the Court recognized a judicial remedy on the basis of the historic power of the federal courts to redress personal injury through the particular remedial mechanism of money damages. These judicially created causes of action, known as BIVENS ACTIONS , provided merely remedies, not substantive rights. Despite the absence of any federal statutory or constitutional basis for such a cause of action, the historic use of damages by federal courts as an ordinary remedy for the invasion of personal liberty interests led the Court to conclude that a plaintiff should be allowed to redress a violation of the plaintiff's 4th amendment rights by the federal agents with a monetary award. Since the very essence of civil liberty consists of the right to protection of the laws of the federal government, the Court reasoned that the issue is not whether the availability of money damages is necessary to enforce the 4th amendment. Nor is it enough to rely on state law as aprotection because the interests of state laws regulating trespass and the invasion of privacy and the interests protected by; the Forth Amendment may be incosistent or even hostile to one another. Rather, the Court's concern was the lack of real relief for constitutional violations. Compounding this concern was the Court's perception that a federal agent acting unconstitutionally in the name of the U.S. possesses a far greater capacity for harm than an individual exercising no more authority than his or her own. A damages remedy for plaintiffs injured by federal officials and agents thus became a means to vindicate A plaintiff may establish an actionable Bivens claim based on conspiracy by showing: (1) the existence of an express or implied agreement among the defendants to deprive him of const. rights, and (2) an actual deprivation of those Constitutional rights resulting from the agreement. BIVENS v. SIX UNKNOWN FED. NARCOTICS AGENTS, 403 U.S. 388 (1971), 403 U.S. 388 From FindLaw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
-Caveat Lector- Robert, My web page (link below)is devoted to the pole shift..I don't know whether you have checked out the 2 links there re dropa but here they are.. First time on pole shift huh...well you better have a closer look I think.. Did you read who Eckhert is and what the 'fictional' work was based on...Ah I don't think Einstein was into fiction..do you?? http://www.in-search-of.com/frames/stonedisk/stonedisk_nf.shtml http://www.nii.net/~obie/dropa.htm Have you read the book the Hab Theory?.. then how can you call it science fiction...shame on you We are on the eve of the next shift All Aboard Peter PS all the pictures on my site have miraculously disappeared so I will have to get them up again.. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Every time I see this story turning up, it traces back NO FURTHER than Allan Eckert's novel *The HAB Theory*. IMHO, it classifies as an Internet myth at this point. The novel is indeed "interesting fiction;" it was my first contact with pole shift hypotheses. However, Eckert offers no supporting evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to consider the book to be pure science fiction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones -Caveat Lector- Interesting archeology information, if true. Interesting fiction if not. Take a look and judge for yourself. This is forwarded from a newsgroup. Subject: The Dropa Stones From: Reverend Chupacabra A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified, expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what? snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More Bivens
-Caveat Lector- Here is much of the Bivens decision from http://mansue.com/scbivnsa.html U.S. Supreme Court: BIVENS v. SIX UNKNOWN FED. NARCOTICS AGENTS, 403 U.S. 388 (1971) 403 U.S. 388 BIVENS v. SIX UNKNOWN NAMED AGENTS OF FEDERAL BUREAU OF NARCOTICS CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT No. 301. Argued January 12, 1971 Decided June 21, 1971 Petitioner's complaint alleged that respondent agents of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, acting under color of federal authority, made a warrantless entry of his apartment, searched the apartment, and arrested him on narcotics charges. All of the acts were alleged to have been done without probable cause. Petitioner's suit to recover damages from the agents was dismissed by the District Court on the alternative grounds (1) that it failed to state a federal cause of action and (2) that respondents were immune from suit by virtue of their official position. The Court of Appeals affirmed on the first ground alone. Held: 1. Petitioner's complaint states a federal cause of action under the Fourth Amendment for which damages are recoverable upon proof of injuries resulting from the federal agents' violation of that Amendment. Pp. 390-397. 2. The Court does not reach the immunity question, which was not passed on by the Court of Appeals. Pp. 397-398. 409 F.2d 718, reversed and remanded. BRENNAN, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which DOUGLAS, STEWART, WHITE, and MARSHALL, JJ., joined. HARLAN, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, post, p. 398. BURGER, C. J., post, p. 411, BLACK, J., post, p. 427, and BLACKMUN, J., post, p. 430, filed dissenting opinions. Stephen A. Grant argued the cause and filed a brief for petitioner. Jerome Feit argued the cause for respondents. On the brief were Solicitor General Griswold, Assistant Attorney General Ruckelshaus, and Robert V. Zener. Melvin L. Wulf filed a brief for the American Civil Liberties Union as amicus curiae urging reversal. [403 U.S. 388, 389] MR. JUSTICE BRENNAN delivered the opinion of the Court. The Fourth Amendment provides that: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated . . . ." In Bell v. Hood, 327 U.S. 678 (1946), we reserved the question whether violation of that command by a federal agent acting under color of his authority gives rise to a cause of action for damages consequent upon his unconstitutional conduct. Today we hold that it does. This case has its origin in an arrest and search carried out on the morning of November 26, 1965. Petitioner's complaint alleged that on that day respondents, agents of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics acting under claim of federal authority, entered his apartment and arrested him for alleged narcotics violations. The agents manacled petitioner in front of his wife and children, and threatened to arrest the entire family. They searched the apartment from stem to stern. Thereafter, petitioner was taken to the federal courthouse in Brooklyn, where he was interrogated, booked, and subjected to a visual strip search. On July 7, 1967, petitioner brought suit in Federal District Court. In addition to the allegations above, his complaint asserted that the arrest and search were effected without a warrant, and that unreasonable force was employed in making the arrest; fairly read, it alleges as well that the arrest was made without probable cause.1 Petitioner claimed to have suffered great humiliation, [403 U.S. 388, 390] embarrassment, and mental suffering as a result of the agents' unlawful conduct, and sought $15,000 damages from each of them. The District Court, on respondents' motion, dismissed the complaint on the ground, inter alia, that it failed to state a cause of action.2 276 F. Supp. 12 (EDNY 1967). The Court of Appeals, one judge concurring specially,3 affirmed on that basis. 409 F.2d 718 (CA2 1969). We granted certiorari. 399 U.S. 905(1970). We reverse. I Respondents do not argue that petitioner should be entirely without remedy for an unconstitutional invasion of his rights by federal agents. In respondents' view, however, the rights that petitioner asserts - primarily rights of privacy - are creations of state and not of federal law. Accordingly, they argue, petitioner may obtain money damages to redress invasion of these rights only by an action in tort, under state law, in the state courts. In this scheme the Fourth Amendment would serve merely to limit the extent to which the agents could defend [403 U.S. 388, 391] the state law tort suit by asserting that their actions were a valid exercise of federal power: if the agents were shown to have violated the Fourth Amendment, such a defense would be lost to them and they would stand before the state law merely as private individuals. Candidly admitting that it is the policy of the Department of Justice to remove all such suits from the
[CTRL] Former German terrorist to do humanitarian work in Kosovo:
-Caveat Lector- === The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU Copyright 1999 Agence France Presse Agence France Presse September 26, 1999 12:19 GMT SECTION: International news HEADLINE: Former German terrorist to do humanitarian work in Kosovo: report DATELINE: BERLIN, Sept 26 A former member of the German terrorist group Red Army Faction (RAF) who was jailed for kidnapping and murder will go to Kosovo on a humanitarian mission, the German weekly Der Spiegel reported. Silke Maier-Witt, 49, now works for the Forum of Civil Service for Peace, a coalition of non-governmental and religious organisations, the weekly said in its edition due Monday. The magazine added that she had already completed an internship with the group in Croatia's Krajina region. The former terrorist has also attended training sessions in Bonn offered by the German ministry for economic cooperation, which has tried to dissuade her from going to Kosovo, Der Spiegel said. The ministry declined to comment on the report. Maier-Witt was prosecuted along with other RAF members for the 1977 kidnapping and murder of German business leader Hanns Martin Schleyer. After seeking refuge in the former East Germany, she and about ten other former terrorists surrendered to western German officials prior to the country's reunification. Sentenced to ten years in prison, Maier-Witt won an early release in 1995. The extreme left-wing RAF committed several attacks and murders in the 1970s and 1980s before disbanding in April 1998. jd/wai/cml Secretary General Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Art historian === DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Ric Carter wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IIf water has a memory this is strong validation for homeopathy Next time you have cholera, or Ebola, see a homeopath. If water has memory, each molecule should remember everybody who's ever pissed it out, everything it's ever dissolved. But where is that memory stored? Look at the structure of a water molecule - dihydrogen monoxide. How many bonds? How many ways can they be arranged? They are NEVER in ANY ONE possible theoretical position or "arrangement," hence, the quantum nature of things on small scales, i.e., quantum mechanics, or the statistical prediction of a particle's energy states, i.e., the statistiacal analysis of particle and energy vectors. Well, since the above is considered to be true via Experimental Physics connfirming such in new ways almost daily, also true is one of the other basic premises of Quantum Mechanics, i.e., that there are an infinite number of realities born at every smallest increment of time, i.e., if a particle can be in any possible states, THEN IT IS IN ALL OF THEM, i.e., ALL possibilities are real (and will continue to be real). Another way to look at this smallest scale of dimensions and time, is that when it all comes down to a single particle and which of it's basic energy states it is in, and hence which possible future outcome will be a reality, ALL POSSIBLE STATES ARE REAL, i.e., ALL POSSIBLE STATES WILL EXIST FROM NOW ON. AND, since all future occurrences are going to follow from which of one, two, OR possibly a third quantum energy state this quantum particle is in, well...then according to the confirmed reality of Quantum Mechanics, ALL POSSIBLE STATES WILL BE REAL, and hence this one particle has branched out into three different futures, each of these to split into 2 or 3 more in just a quantum unit of time later, etc., etc. etc., i.e., INFINITE REALITIES! In other words, at this level, everything to come is going to be based on the outcome of which state of matter/energy a quantum particle is in, and that any of these states that it is possible for this particle to be in, IT WILL BE, i.e., new timelimes (realities) breaking off every quantum set of possibilities. At this profound level, when the entire future of the Multiverse is going to be based on this single possible outcome of whether this one particle is STATISTICALLY going to exist as a plus, a minus, or possibly a neutral, well...ALL THREE HAPPENED! At this most very basic of events, the basis of all quantum mechanics assumes, due to the Heisenberg(sp) Uncertainty Principle, that ALL POSSIBILITIES, and hence all possible futures, EXIST AND ARE REAL! In other words, ALL POSSIBLE FUTURES, IN FACT, DEFINITELY EXIST. The question *should* be, "where are all of these different 'futures?'" Well...they ain't here, that's all we know for sure:) What information is stored in the arrangement of those bonds? What energy levels are needed to rearrange those bonds? If you dissolve a vanishingly small amount of anything into a quantity of water, how is energy transferred from the solute to the water molecules? If water has a memory, if new info can be stored in a water molecule, how can that info be unambiguously detected? The most interesting, and probably the "real deal" (i.e., the theory that seems to offer the most promise of attaining a Unified Theory of Everything) is the branch of theoretical physics called Hyperdimensional Cosmology. The most popular school of thought in this discipline of Astrophysics lately is that there are 10 (or 11) dimensions (i.e., our 4D realm, and it's complimentary 6D dimensional realm, and then, in order to gain a perspective of these two realms as they are observed in relation to each other, some cosmologists insist an 11th dimension may be necessary in order to describe the entire enchillada, i.e., The Multiverse (btw, does this sound like what the ancient texts call the Higher and Lower Heavens, or what?). Anyway, small forces in our 4D realm (like atomic and electromagnetic forces) would manifest as large forces in the 6D realm, and vice versa. What's more, small forces (eg., vibrations of electromagnetic or atomic forces) that approach zero in our 4D realm, are large forces, like Gravity, that would be approaching infinity in the 6D realm (Higher Heavens?). What's more, mass and matter in our 4D realm are vibrations on one dimensional arrays (or "strings"), or vibrations on a two dimensional planes, in our complementary 6D realm, and vice verse. The above are The Superstring Theory, and more lately, M-brane and P-brane Theories of Cosmology) . And, if this is so, and indeed most experts these days are tending to beleive some variation of this concept, then as the very smallest of atomic or molecular energies and masses approach zero (or it's smallest possible quantum quantity) in one realm (and this would be at
Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, what you said. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting -Caveat Lector- To Monsanto: You wish to destroy forest, create desert, and control oasis. Go scriosa an diabhal do chuid airgid caim. Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia over MONSANTO and its genetically modified seeds. US even used the ECHELON system to intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto. NSA denies this but they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability"). The press in the US has been mostly silent Gutless. This is a prime example of a transnational firm implementing New World Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through seeds and water. It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as firm, through revocation of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO. It is a narrow and specific target. Very vulnerable. Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place (Monsanto products) and infowar. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Virus warnings - please read ...
-Caveat Lector- Happy Friday This is not junk e mail WARNING No. 1 If you receive any CELCOM Screen Saver. Pls do not install it!! This screensaver is very cool. It shows a NOKIA handphone, with time messages. After it is activated, the PC cannot boot up at all. It goes very slow. It destroys your hard disk. The filename is CELLSAVER.EXE WARNING No. 2 Beware! if someone named SandMan asks you to check out his page. DO NOT! It is at www.geocities.com/vienna/6318 This page hacks into your C:\drive. DO NOT GO THERE... FOWARD THIS MAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. Warning No. 3 SEND THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR CONTACT LIST! THIS IS NO JOKE,OK? WARNING: If you get an E-mail titled : "Win A Holiday" DO NOT open it. Delete it immediately. Microsoft just announced yesterday. It is a malicious virus that WILL ERASE YOUR HARD DRIVE . At this time there is no remedy . Forward this to everyone IMMEDIATELY!! Warning No. 4 W A R N I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! If you receive an e-mail titled JOIN THE CREW or PENPALS DO NOT open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! PENPAL appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal.but by the time you read this letter, it is TOO late. The Trojan horse virus will have already infected the boot sector of your harddrive, destroying all the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to an yone who's e-mail address is present in your box!!! This virus will destroy your hard drive and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your box and whose mail is in their box and so on and on!! So delete any message titled PENPAL or JOIN THE CREW this virus can do major DAMAGE to worldwide networks PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR MAILBOXES. AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS AND THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR THIS YET. FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS A.S.A.P.! We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting
-Caveat Lector- Dave wrote: -Caveat Lector- This is one company that is very RIPE for corporate death. REVOKE! Monsanto's corporate charter. Who, exactly, should revoke Monsanto's charter??? And if someone could revoke Monsanto's charter, why hasn't anyone done so for Monsanto's past crimes? Answer these questions, and you will have the sword to kill the Dragon. I have been working on this for years, and I have almost completed a plan that will do just this. Yesterday ( Sunday ) I spoke with Ralph Nader on this very subject. Thanks to his explanation of the legal obstacles, I now have the perspective I've been missing. I believe I know how to overcome these obstacles. Joshua2 Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart INDEPENDENT (London) September 26 By Geoffrey Lean MONSANTO, the genetically modified food giant, drew up plans to make billions of dollars out of the world's water crisis, confidential company documents reveal. The documents, seen by the Independent on Sunday, identify a "vast economic opportunity" for the company in impending global shortages of resources such as water. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Virus warnings - please read ...
-Caveat Lector- These are all hoaxes. Please check things like this out before passing them on. -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Virus warnings - please read ... -Caveat Lector- Happy Friday This is not junk e mail WARNING No. 1 If you receive any CELCOM Screen Saver. Pls do not install it!! This screensaver is very cool. It shows a NOKIA handphone, with time messages. After it is activated, the PC cannot boot up at all. It goes very slow. It destroys your hard disk. The filename is CELLSAVER.EXE WARNING No. 2 Beware! if someone named SandMan asks you to check out his page. DO NOT! It is at www.geocities.com/vienna/6318 This page hacks into your C:\drive. DO NOT GO THERE... FOWARD THIS MAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. Warning No. 3 SEND THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR CONTACT LIST! THIS IS NO JOKE,OK? WARNING: If you get an E-mail titled : "Win A Holiday" DO NOT open it. Delete it immediately. Microsoft just announced yesterday. It is a malicious virus that WILL ERASE YOUR HARD DRIVE . At this time there is no remedy . Forward this to everyone IMMEDIATELY!! Warning No. 4 W A R N I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! If you receive an e-mail titled JOIN THE CREW or PENPALS DO NOT open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! PENPAL appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal.but by the time you read this letter, it is TOO late. The Trojan horse virus will have already infected the boot sector of your harddrive, destroying all the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to an yone who's e-mail address is present in your box!!! This virus will destroy your hard drive and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your box and whose mail is in their box and so on and on!! So delete any message titled PENPAL or JOIN THE CREW this virus can do major DAMAGE to worldwide networks PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR MAILBOXES. AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS AND THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR THIS YET. FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS A.S.A.P.! We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] glyphs and pictures
-Caveat Lector- My net buddy has put another picture up..wow.. I gotta blow this one up Peter Go to my site again and look at the second photo!!! It's nothing but squares with glyphs and pictures in it. There is no way that modern man could of made these. Someone or something else made these. This was cropped of one of my scans of my Indian rocks. The cropped piece as 1" x 1". and blown way up. Now if you can't see them you're gonna have to get glasses. HA! http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8020/interestingstuff.html We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:27:59 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Winkel) Organization: PACH To: undisclosed-recipients:; /** reg.easttimor: 3343.0 **/ ** Topic: ST: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil ** ** Written 11:44 PM Sep 23, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in cdp:reg.easttimor ** Subject: ST: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil The Straits Times [Singapore] September 24 1999 PERSPECTIVE Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil MOTIVATED BY ECONOMIC FACTORS HAVING a stake in the Timor Gap oil resources will be crucial for the Australian economy in years to come, as its off-shore oil fields in the Bass Straits near Tasmania are due to dry up in a few years' time. Without doubt, economic factors have motivated Australia's foreign policy towards Indonesia and the East Timor issue in recent years... A small, vulnerable East Timor beholden to Australia for rescuing it, may find it extremely difficult to resist pressure from Australia for extracting a new treaty which would be more favourable to Australian economic interests in the region. In this context, the investments Canberra has put into peacekeeping operations may well turn out to be a small price to pay. By KALINGA SENEVIRATNE AUSTRALIA has taken the high moral ground in organising the rescue of the East Timorese people, perhaps 25 years too late. While the Western media, and some of the Asian media as well, have hailed Australia's leadership role in organising the peacekeeping force for East Timor in such a short time, they have conveniently ignored some pertinent questions. Why has Australia moved in such haste to organise an "invading" (in Indonesian eyes) force into East Timor at this stage, when for the last quarter of a century it has been the strongest supporter of the Suharto regime's annexation of the former Portuguese colony? In answer to this question, it will be interesting to note that the untapped deep sea-bed oil wealth on the Timor Gap, which will come under the territorial integrity of an independent East Timor, would have played a big role in Canberra's decision to mount a rescue act. On Dec 11, 1989, on board a Royal Australian Air Force VIP 707 plane flying over the Timor Sea at an altitude of 10,000 metres, the Timor Gap Treaty (TGT) was signed by the foreign ministers of Australia and Indonesia. Under the treaty, the two countries are to jointly explore for oil and mineral resources in the Timor Gap sea-bed and share any revenue from it equally. When Portugal, as the UN-recognised colonial administrator of East Timor, challenged it in the World Court (ICJ) in the Hague, Australia defended the action. Portugal argued that the TGT was illegal because the UN has never recognised Indonesia's annexation of East Timor. In June 1995, the ICJ ruled that it could not make a decision on the legality of Indonesia's annexation of East Timor, because Indonesia does not recognise the authority of the ICJ. Following the ICJ verdict, Australia claimed victory over Portugal and then Foreign Minister Gareth Evans stated publicly that Australia will have access to Timor Sea oil, without bother from Portugal. As recently as April this year, Mr Evans, in a submission to a Senate Foreign Affairs committee inquiry into East Timor, argued that the TGT was not a blow to the interests and aspirations of the East Timorese for independence. He also reiterated that the TGT did not attract criticism from the international community. "There were no General Assembly or Security Council Resolutions calling on Australia not to ratify the treaty, or indeed even criticising the treaty," he pointed out. According to figures presented to the Senate hearing, revenue from the TGT is currently US$5 million (S$8.4 million) a year and is not expected to exceed US$100 million. But, industry sources seem to think otherwise. Australia's giant multinational oil and mining company, BHP, is a major stake holder in the Timor Gap oil exploration. BHP, along with US-based Phillips Petroleum Company are developing a natural gas field off the East Timor coast. The northern Australian port city of Darwin will become the processing centre for this gas exploration. In August last year, with the possibility of independence for East Timor in the offing, BHP's Jakarta representative, Mr Peter Cockroft, made a secret visit to the notorious Cipinang Prison for an hour-long meeting with the jailed resistance leader, Mr Xanana Gusmao. He is believed to have been assured by Mr Gusmao that BHP's petroleum assets off the East Timor coast would be safe under a post-independence government. The East Timorese resistance movement has never accepted the legality of the TGT. The Indonesian government threatened to expel Mr Cockroft when it found out about the meeting. At the annual general meeting of BHP shareholders a month later, Mr Jerry Ellis, the CEO of BHP, said
Re: [CTRL] Where has all the white gold gone?
-Caveat Lector- hi, ok guys and gals . ;) I have it on bad authority that the worlds gold is being laundered through an ancient smelting process to turn it monoatomic white. This, my bad authority says, when eaten, is the key to immortality and the food of the gods/reptoids and republicans. I am also told by another bad authority that this white gold can also be used in certain kinds of advanced starship engines ... and perhaps the stockpiles are being made in preparation for a mass exodus. The multinational company with the 'immortality' franchise - plans to make a massive banquet of white gold to have a big store tucked away before some sort of global disaster strikes - and is channelling it through the existing factory and capital infrastructure now to maximise the profits rather than wait and transport all that heavy stuff to the colonies in space to process it there at greater cost. An entire futuristic industry is being fuelled by monoatomic gold ... and, well maybe our gold fillings are considered wasted at this moment in time :) There are probably piles of Moonraker ships waiting to lift off with the best of the best and even as we speak, Clinton, Gore and Blair are tucking into the very substances that will keep them in office for a VERY long time Andrew :) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99NYTimes
-Caveat Lector- Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: -Caveat Lector- We can always hope. FWP. Poley you old bastard, are you still alive? And still wasting bandspace? Your old pal, Chuck U. Farley DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/27/99 4:07:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also was given a concoction of veg juices once that worked better than any pharmaceutical pain killer for a knee condition I have...I was working and the knee tightened up, and a homeopath whizzed the stuff up and I have to admit it was the most amazing recovery I have ever experienced. Just to echo the sage words of Ric...A homeopath offering a veg juice cocktail is no different than a homeopath offering prednisone or even surgery...none of these things, though certainly more effective (not certainly with a veggie drink) have nothing to do with the quackery that is the basis of so-called "homeopathic medicine".. Homeopathic medicine, now THERE'S an oxymoron! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om