[CTRL] Over Here?

1999-09-27 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From TheNewAustralian
http://www.newaus.com.au/us135china.html

 Return to The New Australian


 It couldn't happen here, could it?


 By *Larry Elgin
 No. 135,   27 Sept. - 4 Oct. 1999

 Not too long ago, on 28 July, 1999, an interagency Panamanian police force
 seized a cache of heavy weapons at a waterfront home located just minutes in
 driving time from the Canal on the Atlantic side. The haul included 30 assault
 rifles, including G-3’s, M-16’s and FAL’s, a couple of rocket launchers, a 7.62
 caliber machine gun (PKM) with 106 boxes of ammo containing 700 rounds each, a
 submachine gun, a couple of Chinese grenade launchers, with grenades, and some
 flares and scopes. The home was the property of a Panamanian originally from
 Italy. A combination of Panamanian police groups had had their eye on it. The
 brother of the owner is a high officer in a wharf group that operates the Colon
 Port terminal which not too long ago was cited by Panamanian legislator Miguel
 Bush as a conduit for arms traffic. Presumably, the account in El Panama America
 by Enrique Watts Rios said, the arms came into Panama from Colombia, declining
 to reveal more about the police sources of this particular information.

 This is a confluence of events that could alarm an American observer if he were
 to take seriously the warning constantly given, in his Panama Canal testimony
 and elsewhere, by U.S. Defense — American Victory Honorary Chairman, Admiral Tom
 Moorer, that we must assess our strategic situation, not by what a potential
 strategic foe signals by way of intentions, but rather by what it has the
 capacity to do should it so choose. Thus, a seemingly minor incident of this
 sort, but one which demonstrates sufficient armament in place to enable the
 destruction and crippling of the Panama Canal, perhaps by something so simple as
 a ride in a cigarette boat, when coupled with overtones of high level Panamanian
 ties to communist Chinese dominated entities, Colombia with its drug lords and
 perhaps even other illicit ties, is cause for closer scrutiny. As Admiral Moorer
 has pointed out, we must be concerned with a potential foe’s capabilities, not
 his presumed intentions to use them or not.

 The fact that Fidel Castro has personally assured Bill Clinton that the
 communists are not involved with the narcotrafficantes, for example, is not
 reassuring from a strategic perspective. Quite the opposite, it should increase
 our interest in determining whether there is an alliance of convenience between
 the communists of China (who have dramatically increased their presence in
 Castro’s Cuba as well as in Panama) and the drug lords, or whether one is in the
 offing, with the Colombian FALN, for example, as a conduit of the cooperation.
 It is not just that surely Fidel’s word is as good as Bill’s. A connection
 between Chinese communist strategic intentions and the ever more threatening
 presence of heavy arms with Colombian connections in the Canal area is
 sufficiently alarming as an immediate possibility, given the abject failure of
 our "war" on drugs, that it should not readily be dismissed as sheer
 coincidence. Instead of heightened curiosity and examination of the possibility,
 however, we see the usual stonewalling, blithe assurances of irrelevance and
 determination to see that this important question is not examined.

 After all, we haven’t even been able to get assurances in this administration
 that the White House itself is a drug free zone, and there is every sign that
 from its beginning efforts were made at the highest levels to assure that it was
 not. Yet anyone who has ever dealt with the narcotics problem knows that even
 so-called "leisure" drug usage is a target for penetration and control by
 opposing forces. Should such penetration and control not only involve the drug
 traffickers themselves, who are now sufficiently wealthy to exceed the gross
 national product of some of the Latin American nations they plague, but also the
 communist Chinese in concert with Fidel Castro, then the problem of an
 irreversible compromise of national security becomes quite immediate.

 For the drug lords already have such power, not only in Columbia but also in
 Mexico, and, under the PRD, in Panama itself, (combined with their resurgence in
 Peru, their power in Ecuador and the other anti-democratic trends in the area
 under this administration) that, should they have such an alliance, (even one of
 convenience,) they thereby become a strategic threat as much as communist China
 itself, albeit a proxy one, able to threaten commerce and shipping and make
 military intervention, such as is presently talked of in Colombia as a
 possibility, highly costly and marginally effective. We had best be careful not
 to get ourselves into a situation where we are attempting to project military
 force far from our shores against not one but two opponents who have or may have
 penetrated the present presidency 

Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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At 10:35 PM 9-26-1999 +1200, Peter wrote:

OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going??


The Illuminati are collecting all the world's available gold
for delivery -- in 2003 -- to the Anunnaki Serpent masters
on Nibiru, the 3400 year eliptical orbit '12th planet'.


But you knew that.





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[CTRL] Global Internet Censorship Plans (fwd)

1999-09-27 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PRIVACY Forum)
 URL:  http://www.vortex.com/privacy/
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 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 99
 Subj: PRIVACY Forum Digest V08 #13

 excerpt:

 Date:Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:36:36 -0400
 From:Monty Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ACLU Joins International Protest Against Global Internet
  Censorship Plans

 Excerpt from ACLU News -- 09-10-99

   

  ACLU Joins International Protest Against
  Global Internet Censorship Plans

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 Thursday, September 9, 1999

 MUNICH, GERMANY -- The American Civil Liberties Union today joined
 rights groups from around the world in denouncing a proposed
 international Internet rating system that could provide governments
 with a blueprint for censorship.

 In a joint statement issued at an Internet policy conference here
 today, members of the Global Internet Liberty Campaign (GILC) --
 including the ACLU and other prominent defenders of cyberliberties --
 said the so-called voluntary ratings system may actually facilitate
 governmental restrictions on Internet expression.

 The three-day "Internet Content Summit," organized by the Bertelsmann
 Foundation, a nonprofit social policy group based in Germany, has
 brought together some 300 Internet and computer industry executives
 and experts in the fields of technology, law and government to discuss
 ways to control illegal or potentially harmful material online without
 resorting to government regulation.

 But after analyzing an advance copy of the Bertelsmann
 recommendations, which will be issued formally on Friday,
 GILC said that censorship is a foregone conclusion.

 "This approach merely shifts the focus of governmental censorship
 initiatives from direct prohibition of speech to mandating the use of
 existing ratings and blocking technologies," the GILC members said in
 their statement.

 Speaking from the conference, Barry Steinhardt, Associate Director of
 the ACLU and a co-founder of GILC, said that much of the Bertelsmann
 plan was prophesied in a 1997 ACLU report
   http://www.aclu.org/issues/cyber/burning.html
 warning of the free speech dangers in various ratings plans then
 being proposed by U.S. industry groups.

 "We said it then, we say it now and we'll keep saying it even after
 software programs try to block us: proposals like this will transform
 the Internet from a true marketplace of ideas into just another
 mainstream, lifeless medium," Steinhardt said.

 And in remarks circulated to participants prior to the conference,
 ACLU President Nadine Strossen, a member of the Bertelsmann
 Foundation's "expert network" for the conference, invoked principles
 of free expressions enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human
 Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,
 the European Convention on Human Rights, and analogous national
 guarantees, such as the First Amendment to the United States
 Constitution. Echoing GILC's criticism, Strossen said that the
 proposed rating and blocking schemes violate these free expression
 guarantees.

 Strossen strongly criticized a plan to establish telephone hotlines
 that the public can use to report objectionable Internet content,
 saying that it turns hotline operators into "self-appointed judges
 of law" and encourages vigilantism.

 "These hotlines violate due process concepts that are also enshrined
 in international, regional, and national guarantees around the world,"
 she said.

 Strossen also stressed her agreement with the GILC recommendation that
 emphasizing education and parental supervision should receive far more
 attention than it has to date.



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Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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Safra?? Sth Africa?

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- Original Message -
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?


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 Safra

 earthman wrote:
 
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  OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going??
 
  We heard about the bullion in E Timor,(assuming it is true)the reason
why
  the UN is there, to get it out..and there have been moves across the
globe
  on the gold market..
  Are the banks pulling in their reserves for the coming run?..or are they
  collecting in for the reps?
  Where is it all going?..Germany? Switzerland? Antarctic or US?
  The crash is upon us and the big players are taking steps.
 
  Any ideas??
  Peter
 
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Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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Thanks Ric,
So I gather I am barking up the wrong tree..
Is there a reason for the oil price increase? ... Cashing in on it while
they can perhaps?.. There is no shortage surely... I see it as they are
trying to make as much out of it before the sustainable energies are
popularised..or they are stockpiling for WW111, which is around the corner..
It is necessary to effect an economic crash before the NWO can be
established... Y2K irrespective of the computer problems, will cause a run
on the banks.. The financial markets will need their reserves. A global
monetary system will be instigated (poss the Euro).
Off on a tangent here:
Gold has great value in alchemy processes.. It has always been associated
with magic and magicians.
You probably think the reptile think is a crock of sh*t but supposedly the
reason why man was created was to be slaves for the Anunnaki.. to mine for
gold.. Now what value would gold have for these aliens..
Something to do with density I suspect..
This whole Ufo phenomena is dimensional. Maybe they need gold to come down
to our vibration..to take over.. Hey that could explain why the food we eat,
the air we breathe is so full of poisons.Eugenics.. Kill us all off.
I will pass on the 'steps' question.. It is not something I have studied,
only what I have noticed.
Awareness is usually the first step to understanding.
I appreciate that you are more familiar with the machinations of this world
of ours than I am and I thank you for your reply
Peter




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- Original Message -
From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?


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 From: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going??

 Down. Gold's value continues to fall, as it generally has over
 the last 30-40 years.  See the current price in US$ - track that
 price over the decades - factor in inflation - reach your own
 conclusion.  Mine: gold is a sucker's bet.

  We heard about the bullion in E Timor, (assuming it is true)
  the reason why the UN is there, to get it out..

 A not-very-thoughtful assumption, considering that the petroleum
 reserves in the Timor Sea are worth orders-of-magnitude MORE than
 any gold in East Timor.

  and there have been moves across the globe on the gold market..

 Count the dollar amounts of those gold moves.  Count the dollar
 amounts of the increase in petroleum prices [100%] this year, with
 OPEC enforcing production limits this year.  Compare the amounts.
 Judge the significance yourself.  My judgement: gold's value is
 minescule compared to oil's value.

  Are the banks pulling in their reserves for the coming run?..
  or are they collecting in for the reps?

 Any big players 'collecting' gold right now must sure like its
 ornamental properties.  Gold has some subjective value in jewelry,
 a very real value in electronics [your computer is filled with
 gold threads and coatings], and absolutely NO value in backing
 significant currencies.

  Where is it all going?..Germany? Switzerland? Antarctic or US?
  The crash is upon us and the big players are taking steps.

 And those steps are... ??

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Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece

1999-09-27 Thread Bill

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Makes me think about golden seal root.  For quite some time
it was the only thing on the market that would beat a
urinalysis test.  Can't see the placebo in that.   Also was
given a concoction of veg juices once that worked better
than any pharmaceutical pain killer for a knee condition I
have...I was working and the knee tightened up, and a
homeopath whizzed the stuff up and I have to admit it was
the most amazing recovery I have ever experienced.  The
musculature loosened up and the pain disappeared within an
hour, and did not recur for many weeks.  Very odd.  I did
not believe him when he gave it to me, but it worked!  I
have gotten totally friedd the few times I tried
pharmaceuticals for pain and they are, in my opinion, just a
drunk in a pill.

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Re: [CTRL] Hallelujah! Can I get a Witness? Globalization sucks.

1999-09-27 Thread Bill

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Why should we stop the
 M.A.I.?

MAI stands for
"MULTILATERAL AGREEMENT ON INVESTMENT."

The MAI is being quietly negotiated through the Organization
for Economic
Cooperation and Development (OECD), a club of 29 rich
countries, with no
meaningful debate or input from citizens. The World Trade
Organization calls it
"the constitution of a single global economy." 1 The MAI
would be "open to
accession by all countries,"p11 MAI text with intense
pressure to join. The text
uses deceptive legal language which obscures the
consequences for most
people. "Investor" is broadly defined, but large
corporations would benefit most
because of their size, resources, political and legal clout,
and presence in
many countries.

How would transnational corporations benefit?

 AN UNACCOUNTABLE GLOBAL COURT or "effective dispute
 settlement procedures."p9 Governments would give their
"unconditional
 consent to the submission of a dispute"p63 to this new
global tribunal.

*With
few exceptions, virtually all our laws, right down to our
local
 bylaws, would be subject to the threat of successful
corporate
 lawsuits through the
MAI.**

If investors from other countries which sign
 the MAI decided that one of our laws breached the MAI,
including laws
 that held them accountable to employees or our
community, they could
 sue our government for virtually unlimited damages p62
under an
 onerous "expropriationand compensation" clause.p51
Tribunal rulings
 would be "final and binding."p67
 OUTLAWING LOCAL CONTROL. The MAI would phase out laws
 which restrain transnational business, in order to
foster "liberalization of
 investment regimes." Our governments would
"rollback"p154 or remove
 laws that violated the MAI and achieve "standstill"p152
i.e. not pass
 any more laws which, for instance, hinder access to
government
 contracts by foreign investors,p31 or give advantage to
domestic firms.
 Under "Transparency,"p15 governments would create a
hit-list of all
 "non-conforming" laws subject to standstill, rollback,
or potential
 investor disputes.
 RULES FAVOURING GLOBAL BUSINESS would enforce "national
 treatment" (between foreign and domestic investors) and
"most
 favoured nation" statusp15 (between foreign investors).
Every foreign
 investor could claim "treatment no less favourable"
than that applied to
 the most favoured investor, whether domestic or
foreign, in a given
 country. Domestic businesses in our high-wage,
democratic countries
 would compete directly with foreign investors (i.e. the
transnationals)
 which operate or source in low- wage, low-tax regions
ruled by
 repressive regimes. The MAI would ban restrictions on
"transfers"p53
 of capital or "key personnel."p16 Jobs, plants and
profits could move
 anywhere, anytime with no financial penalty. The MAI
would also
 prohibit "performance requirements"p19 which require
investors to
 buy, source, hire or invest locally, rather than in
low-wage, repressive
 regimes.

How would common people benefit from the MAI?

THE MAI DRAFT OFFERS NO BENEFITS FOR NON-INVESTORS. The
preamble just has vague assurances such as "the creation of
employment
opportunities and the improvement of living standards."p9
However, this
sounds unlikely if, for instance, the MAI would ban
"performance
requirements" which encourage job creation or local
investment. Also, the MAI
tribunal would have no provision for governments to sue
foreign
investors,2 i.e. no means to prosecute foreign-based
corporations on
environmental, labour or any other social concerns. The U.S.
Council on
International Business is uncompromising on this: "We will
oppose any and all
measures to create or even imply binding obligations for
governments or
business related to the environment or labour."

Why does our government want this treaty?

THE MAI IS A PRODUCT OF ONGOING GOVERNMENT DECEPTION. MPs
are not being fully informed. Sergio Marchi, Minister for
International Trade,
has allowed only a few little-publicized hearings. He even
claimed "there is no
agreement," that MAI discussions are "preliminary." Yet the
MAI was almost
ratified in May 1997. Now, contrary to media reports, the
MAI is not dead, but
has simply switched to one-on-one negotations to deal with
dissenting OECD
countries. If they sign on, they would be locked in for 20
years.p95 This "would
offend the centuries-old principle... that no government or
parliament tie the
hands of a future parliament." (Bill Blaikie, MP)

You can hold MP's accountable on the MAI

 WRITE YOUR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT. Try our sample letter
on
 the reverse. It challenges MPs to justify their
government's own
 proposal: "Who would benefit from each MAI proposal,
and why 

[CTRL] DC Med Mj Vote Passes, Congress May Overturn

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: DRCNet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: ALERT: DC Med Mj Vote Passes, Congress May Overturn
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:53:31 -0500 (CDT)

 VISIT:  http://www.drcnet.org/medmjaction/
9/22/99
Dear friend:

 On a cold November day last year -- Election Day -- I
stood outside a downtown polling station, leafleting and
speaking with fellow Washington, D.C. residents about I-59,
a ballot initiative to legalize medical use of marijuana in
the District of Columbia and prevent medical marijuana
patients from being sent to prison.  That night, I waited
with my fellow activists for results of similar initiatives
taking place in several states across the nation.

 The news was good -- medical marijuana passed
everywhere, and comfortably.  But the results of D.C.'s own
medical marijuana initiative -- the one I had volunteered
and voted for myself -- were kept secret, and would be kept
secret for more than ten months.  Congress had passed a law,
introduced by Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), that prohibited the D.C.
government from spending any funds to count or certify the
results of the medical marijuana vote -- not even the
estimated $1.74 of staff time it would have taken to push
the button and have the computer print them out.

 Last week, a federal judge ruled that the Barr amendment
is unconstitutional, and ordered D.C. election officials to
count and certify the vote, an order with which they happily
complied.  The results were overwhelming, though not
unexpected -- 69% of D.C. voters voted yes for medical
marijuana, the same percentage found in an exit poll
commissioned by Americans for Medical Rights.

 But Barr and his fellow hard-liners haven't given up,
and even now are plotting to overturn D.C.'s long-awaited
medical marijuana law -- and the U.S. Constitution gives
them that power, if they act within 30 working days.  That's
why we need you to take action, and tell your U.S.
Representative and your two Senators to respect the will of
the voters and let D.C.'s medical marijuana law stand!

 Please visit http://www.drcnet.org/medmjaction/ to send
an e-mail or fax to Congress.  You can also use our site to
find out your reps' phone numbers, to call them, for even
more impact.  And please forward this alert, or use the
"tell-a-friend" page on the web site, to let as many people
know about this important issue and how they can help.  And
please take action now -- though Congress has 30 working
days, they could vote on this at any time, so please write
Congress today!

 Sincerely,

 David Borden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Executive Director
 Drug Reform Coordination Network
 http://www.drcnet.org

P.S.  For further information, please visit the web sites of
two organizations that worked hard to pass I-59 by a wide
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http://www.actupdc.org, and the Marijuana Policy Project,
online at http://www.mpp.org.  For extensive information
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[CTRL] keywords used by echelon

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal

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from another list
''


  what are the keywords?

"Keyword" is certainly a key word. There is a database of hundreds and
hundreds of key words, ranging from certain dodgy terms (weapons, drugs,
crimes
in every slang imaginable) to political words (anarchy, insurrection, etc)
to names and places (heads of state, ?heads of corporations?, organisations,
important places from NATO headquarters to ECHELON sites across the world).
I once tried compiling a list but gave up when it reached more than 500
words. You have to remember that it would also take nearly every language
into
account. Naturally this means that millions of messages (voice, fax, data)
are netted by the systems every day. They then sift through them in a
probably very very refined way passing on the REALLY suspicious ones to
human
evaluators. Of course a lot of logging also goes on, meaning that if a
certain
phone line/email address starts to display a very large amount of suspicious
info this is recorded. The system has three weaknesses:

1. Strong encryption is a problem as Echelon and the computer systems
around it don't have the resources to crack every PGP coded message. This
takes
a long time and can, as far as I know, only be done in extreme cases.
Luckily for Echelon, not many people use strong encryption.

2. Storage capacity: The amount of data flowing through the systems is
growing exponentially. Echelon can't record too much information or it would
simply burst. This means that not everybody who uses the word "hacker" is
recorded.

3. Humans. In the end all highly suspicious message have to reach a human
evaluator. There aren't that many of them that they can deal with too much
information in one day, especially if the subject is highly technical or in
a
language other than English. This is where the whole idea of jamming the
works comes in , I expect. Create so much suspicious material that the human
evaluators cannot cope anymore. I think this is a very good idea, sort of
like the street theatre in front of CCTVs. A little bit of programming and
widespread participation should do quite a bit of damage, I can imagine :-)
Not
that anybody would want to do anything like that. You know, fool around with
the Men in Black.

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[CTRL] Sleep Deprivation, Drunkenness Compared

1999-09-27 Thread Das GOAT

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 7 out of 10 American workers aren't able to get enough sleep ...


Sleep Deprivation, Alcohol Compared

By JANET McCONNAUGHEY
.c The Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Not sleeping enough can give you the same results as
drinking too much.

That's the conclusion of a Stanford University study of people with mild to
moderate sleep apnea: people whose breathing stops several or even dozens of
times an hour, interrupting their rest without their knowledge.

About 12 million Americans have the problem but fewer than 2 million of them
have been diagnosed, according to the American Sleep Apnea Association's Web
site. The undiagnosed figure may be as high as 25 million, according to
Stanford's Sleep Disorders Clinic and Research Center.

People known to have apnea did as poorly on a test of reaction time as people
who were too drunk to drive a bus or truck in California, said Dr. Nelson B.
Powell of the Stanford center.

On three of seven measurements, they did worse than people too drunk to drive
at all in California and other states where the legal test is a blood alcohol
content of .08 percent.

Powell presented his study Sunday at the annual convention American Academy
of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery Foundation, Inc.

He said he wanted to underscore the dangers of driving while sleepy, whether
or not it's because of apnea.

``How many times have you or anybody you've known been nodding off at the
wheel, or said, `Gee, I've got to roll the window down or turn the music
louder'?'' he said. ``I'd bet every driver, at one time or another has driven
too tired. We know it's wrong but we still do it.''

This study gives a comparison that people can understand, he said.

``This is a wonderful study,'' said Dr. Regina Walker, an associate professor
of otolaryngology at Loyola University in Chicago. ``It is an extremely
well-thought-out, well-controlled, prospective study that is looking at
something I think is of great significance.''

The study looked at 80 volunteers and 113 people with apnea. The volunteers'
average age was 29 and 56 percent were women. In contrast, 81 percent of the
apnea patients were men, and their average age was 47.

However, statistical analysis ruled out age and gender as reasons for the
difference, Powell said. He said the full analysis will be published next
month in a national peer-reviewed journal.

All of the people took a 10-minute test of reaction speed, pushing a button
to turn off a randomly set light. After four tests to get their baseline
reaction time, the comparison group started drinking 80-proof alcohol.

They were tested three more times as they kept drinking. Their blood alcohol
count averaged .05 percent at the first re-test, .08 percent at the second
and .083 at the third.

It's illegal in California and several other states for anyone with a
blood-alcohol content of more than .04 percent to drive a bus or truck, and
.08 is considered legal proof of driving drunk in 16 states.

In addition to simple reaction times, analysts looked at six mathematical
permutations, such as the means of the 10 fastest and of the 10 slowest
times.

The apnea patients, whose breath stopped about 29 times an hour while they
were asleep, did worse on all seven measurements than the drinkers did on
their first re-test, and worse on three of them than those who were legally
drunk.

``Many of my patients don't think being sleepy is a big deal,'' Walker said.
``I think this will help legislators and the public understand just how
serious the problem is.

``Also that it's not controllable,'' she added. ``People think, `I can just
make myself stay awake.' They can't.''

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Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply

1999-09-27 Thread Gavin Phillips

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In a message dated 9/26/99 10:44:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

Read "Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries" by Jonathan Eisen. I
cannot recommend this book too highly. Very well written and documented
suppression of very inexpensive and non toxic cancer treatments. Other
information about suppressed alternative energy inventors. An excellent book.
Gavin.
 Next time you have cholera, or Ebola, see a homeopath.

 If water has memory, each molecule should remember everybody who's
 ever pissed it out, everything it's ever dissolved.  But where is
 that memory stored?  Look at the structure of a water molecule -
 dihydrogen monoxide.  How many bonds?  How many ways can they be
 arranged?  What information is stored in the arrangement of those
 bonds?  What energy levels are needed to rearrange those bonds?  If
 you dissolve a vanishingly small amount of anything into a quantity
 of water, how is energy transferred from the solute to the water
 molecules?  If water has a memory, if new info can be stored in a
 water molecule, how can that info be unambiguously detected?

 If homeopathy worked, why don't pharmaceutical firms reduce the
 vast expenses of developing new drugs by producing homeopathic
 preparations?  Those greedy bastards will do ANYTHING that will
 make money - why don't they increase profits homeopathically?  If
 homeopathy worked, couldn't medical groups dispense with hoards
 of expensive physicians, pharmacists, etc?  If homeopathy is a
 viable system, why hasn't it prevailed after 150+ years?

 I know, I know - it's all a conspiracy.
  

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[CTRL] Foolishness of Legalisms vs the IRS

1999-09-27 Thread Lloyd Miller

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Finally!  Someone defines the foolishness of challenging
the IRS in court.

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From: Samuel E. Konkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: CIA Mind Control


By Mises, Rothbard, and LeFevre!

I never thought I'd agree with Bolton, other than "a" and "the", but I
wouldn't change a word of this paragraph:

"Craig J. Bolton" wrote:

 Date:Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:17:45 EST5EDT
 From:Virginia Cropsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 So I guess that it all comes down to a matter of faith, Virginia. As
 someone who has practiced law for about 16 years now and who has a pretty
 good idea of how government and the courts actually function,  I have an
 absolute faith that if you tomorrow came up with definitive proof that the
 16th Amendment was never really adopted, that it is contrary to every
 principle of constitutional law, and that there is absolutely no basis for
 not declaring it unconstitutional, that there would be absolutely no
 effect. You have confidence that some federal judge is going to say to
you:
 "Oh my God, Virginia has come up with the definitive citation! I now
 declare the income tax unconstitutional, require that the IRS be
disbanded,
 and all taxes illegally collected for the past 70+ years be returned to
the
 people. Thank you so much, Virginia, for saving us from tyranny through
 inadvertence."

 Craig Bolton

It should be copied and spread across the land(s) and e-scape and become as
famous as, "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa
Claus . . ."

Good writing, Craig.

Freely as ever, SEK3

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Re: [CTRL] Waco post

1999-09-27 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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And since when would these agencies be the proper ones to be dealing with
child abuse in the first place!  I do not think that would fall under the
jurisdiction of BATF and Delta Force even IF it had been occurring.
Amelia

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 From alt.conspiracy, WACO and the Child abuse allegations.
 Enjoy, or not.


 Subject: Post of FINAL evidence against WACO Child Abuse, End of Premise
 From: "James Perkins" A
 HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
 Date: Fri, 24 September 1999 02:01 PM EDT
 Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: No more crap about child abuse - End of argument for Fed
supporters
 Date: 1999/09/19
 Author: James Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 From the St. Louis "Post Dispatch"
 Full article at:
 A

HREF="http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35
AD

A862"http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35
AD
 A862/A
 567F1003C8CD7?OpenDocument

 "The nation already knows that there was some poor judgment. Officials of
 the FBI and Justice Department have acknowledged as much. The FBI has
 admitted that some of its tactics, like broadcasting loud noises, were
 ill-conceived. It has admitted that it did not have new evidence of child
 abuse at the time it used child-abuse allegations to persuade Attorney
 General Janet Reno to authorize the assault on the compound. And the FBI
has
 belatedly admitted that it fired pyrotechnic tear gas at a bunker on the
 morning of the assault, even though Reno had denied for years that
flammable
 tear gas was used."

 So, the next time anyone (especially familyvalues) wants to throw this
 argument up as a shield for the Fed, "Just Say NO".

 James Perkins

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Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards

1999-09-27 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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Sorry, but this begs for the old saw "Well, it certainly deters ONE person
!"
Amelia

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 So what if the death penalty deters?
 Steven Goldberg
 National Review, June 30, 1989 v41 n12 p42(2)


 --
--
 

 Opponents of the death penalty have many reasons for their opposition that
 innocent people may be executed, that the death penalty is 'uncivilized',-
 that the state should not take lives. But what these arguments come down
to
 is.

 DOES THE THREAT of the death penalty deter people from murderous behavior
 more than the threat of imprisonment for life? We do not yet know with
 anything even approaching certainty whether the death penalty does or does
 not deter. The question is clearly empirical; and it is likely that
 sophisticated statistical techniques will eventually permit us an answer.

 Professor Isaac Ehrlich and his colleagues, utilizing his statistical
 techniques, argue that there can be little doubt about the ability of the
 death penalty to deter. Ehrlich concludes that each additional execution
 prevents about seven or eight people from committing murder. All
statistical
 arguments on the death penalty are, however, excruciatingly complex. Some
 critics, for example, have argued that increased likelihood of execution
 leads juries to convict fewer people, thereby offsetting the deterrent
 effect. If anything, the empirical evidence is that the death penalty does
 deter. But this is inevitably open to dispute. As a result, firm
conclusions
 that the death penalty either does or does not deter are unwarranted and
 usually determined by one's psychological and moral leanings.

 In academic and media circles, psychological and moral resistance to the
 idea of the death penalty usually leads to the assertion that it does not
 deter. These people's conclusion may or may not be correct, but it does
not
 follow from the arguments they deploy. Since many murders result from
 emotional impulse (e.g., the angry husband who kills his wife), the death
 penalty could have, at best only the slightest deterrent effect, If the
 death penalty deters, it is likely that it does so through society's
saying
 that certain acts are so unacceptable that society will kill someone who
 commits them. The individual internalizes the association of the act and
the
 penalty throughout his life, constantly increasing his resistance to
 committing the act. Note that there is no implication here that the
 potential murderer consciously weighs the alternatives and decides that
the
 crime is worth life in prison, but not death. No serious theory of
 deterrence claims that such rational calculation of punishment (as opposed
 to no rational calculation, or calculation only of the probability of
 getting caught) plays a role.

 There is no a priori reason for assuming that this process is less
relevant
 to emotional acts than rational acts; most husbands, when angry, slam
doors,
 shout, or sulk. Neither the death penalty nor anything else deterred the
 husband who did murder his wife, so the question is not what deterred the
 person who did murder (nothing did), but what deterred the person who
 didn't. If the death penalty deters, it is, in all likelihood, primarily
 because it instills a psychological resistance to the act, not because it
 offers a rational argument against committing the act at the time that the
 decision is being made. In short, it is only legislators who calculate (or
 at least should calculate) the deterrent effect of the death penalty.
 Potential murderers simply act; the deterrent effect of the death penalty,
 if there is one, acts upon them. If it acts with sufficient strength, it
 prevents their becoming murderers. The legislator is the physicist
studying
 the forces that move particles; the potential murderers are the moving
 particles.

 There is no evidence that the death penalty deters. This is simply untrue.
 Ehrlich's complex statistical techniques establish a real case that the
 death penalty deters. But here let us assume, for argument's sake, that
 there was no such evidence. The more important point is that there is a
 crucial difference between there being no evidence that two things are
 correlated and there being evidence that two things are not correlated.
The
 latter means that we have good evidence that the two things are not
related;
 the former means simply that we have no evidence on either side of the
case.


 Now, it is quite true that we must have some sort of evidence in order to
 even entertain the idea that two things are related. Our reason for not
 believing that tall Italian men are smarter than short Italian men is not
 simply that we have no direct evidence, but also because we have no

[CTRL] Book:LOCKDOWN AMERICA: POLICE AND PRISONS IN THE AGE OF CRISIS

1999-09-27 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


Book:LOCKDOWN AMERICA: POLICE AND PRISONS IN THE AGE OF CRISIS

INDEPENDENT (London) September 27

MONDAY BOOK: THE HIDDEN COST OF `ZERO TOLERANCE'
The reviewer (whose name doesn't appear in the web page) is Professor of
Criminology at Edge Hill University College and author of `Hillsborough:
The Truth' (Mainstream)

LOCKDOWN AMERICA: POLICE AND PRISONS IN THE AGE OF CRISIS by CHRISTIAN
PARENTI (Verso, pounds 20)


IN HIS excellent Crime and Punishment in America, Elliott Currie notes
that the 1967 Kerner Commission on Urban Disorders brought the US to a
law-and-order crossroads, agreeing that "we could never imprison our way
out of America's violent crime problem." Resisting crime meant "attacking
social exclusion".

Instead, the US took another road, resulting in "bursting prisons,
devastated cities, and a violent crime rate unmatched in the developed
world". Enter Christian Parenti and his stunning, evocative Lockdown
America. Pinpointing the political moments that shaped America's draconian
criminal-justice policies, he reveals corrupt policing and imprisonment
and the overt targeting of "problem populations".

Lockdown America is a critique of a cynical devaluation of the democratic
process. From his careful analysis of the Watergate fall-out to his "nuts-
and-bolts history of profound economic crisis", Parenti reveals the hidden
depths of an authoritarian project's "battle for hearts and minds". This
was Ronald Reagan's inheritance - the backdrop to his war on crime.
Economic libertarianism could not be delivered without social
authoritarianism.

Parenti shows how the federal judiciary was stacked with "mean-spirited"
zealots; how permissive forfeiture laws were relentlessly enforced to
pursue a campaign of racist state intervention. He establishes behind-
the-scenes connections between Reaganomics, anti-communist strategies in
Central America and the "right-wing cultural backlash" - the foundation
for the construction of the "underclass". This strategy, as in Britain,
targeted "idlers" and "loafers" as marginals by choice rather than
circumstance. At its heart was "race spoken through the code of crime and
welfare".

Parenti then takes apart the myths of "zero tolerance" or "quality of
life" policing. It is a tale of "rapidly and insidiously escalating police
powers" resulting in an "American-style democratic police state".

Of course, the broken windows were fixed, the streets cleaned and the
subway secured to make Manhattan presentable. But as "zero tolerance"
swept the US, policing became "overly aggressive". The clampdown
exacerbated a climate of fear. Virtually unaccountable, the police
routinely violated civil liberties. Paramilitary Special Weapons And
Tactics (SWAT) units literally went to war: "their task, destruction and
conquest... the civilian community, the enemy." For politicians, this was
a small price to pay for urban renewal.

Parenti relates this social pathologisation to the spiralling
incarceration rate, which is used to manage "the contradictions of
restructured American capitalism" while giving politicians a bankable
ballot-box currency. Yet mass imprisonment "terrorises the poor" and
"warehouses social dynamite".

These detailed chapters are painful, as Parenti catalogues the rape,
torture and brutality endemic within US prisons. His argument is
convincing: rape has become "central" to the politics of incarceration. In
male jails, prisoner rape is condoned; in women's prisons, coast to coast,
"guards routinely rape women prisoners with near-total impunity".

In 1985, 500,000, were incarcerated in federal prisons. By 1998, the
figure was 1.7 million. This includes a 500 per cent rise in women's
imprisonment. Such numbers cannot be effectively managed, with prison life
dominated by powerful gangs. At the end of the line come super-maximum
prisons run on regimes of "extraordinary isolation". The key has,
literally, been thrown away.

The financial rewards of prison expansion are staggering, with over half a
million full-time employees and an annual expenditure of US$35 bn.
Increasingly privatised, prison is bigger than "any Fortune 500 company
except General Motors". For "industrial-military complex", now read
"prison-industrial complex" - a form of "carceral Keynesianism that
revives "economically moribund regions".

Parenti's conclusion is clear. With "soft" forms of control easily grafted
on to repression, executions and brutalising regimes have been made
compatible with anger management, restitution and shaming. "Therapy and
the gas chamber are by no means mutually exclusive." Decarceration is his
first priority, followed by decriminalisation.

Lockdown America is impressive: hardly a sentence passes without a
reference. Direct quotations from politicians, commentators and witnesses
are painstakingly reproduced. The book is in the best tradition of
investigative journalism, paced 

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Gulf War Illness Probe To Advance With New Study
By PAUL LIKOUDIS


Tom Clancy's latest novel Rainbow Six rivets readers with a fictional
account of environmentalist elites who decide that the only way they can
save the world is to radically eliminate over 95% of the human population.
Some of the world's leading scientists develop a strain of viruses, which
they call Shiva after the Indian goddess of death, and devise an ingenious
method to infect the world's population.

Part of Clancy's plot involves the development of two antibodies to fight
the new virus, one of which will be for the world's elite, to inoculate
them; the other for the sick, to make them sicker.

But there's a more riveting real-life scenario unfolding in the United
States and around the world that puts Clancy's fictional thriller into the
realm of the credible: the efforts of a small group of reputable scientists,
sick U.S. veterans, and a handful of investigative journalists to unlock the
secrets of Gulf War Illness (GWI), sometimes referred to as Gulf War
Syndrome, which has afflicted between 100,000 and 200,000 military personnel
who served in President George Bush's Desert Storm and their families, and
which is responsible for perhaps 15,000 deaths.

The number of military personnel who have died of the mysterious illness
remains a classified secret, one of GWI's top researchers, Dr. Garth
Nicolson of the Institute for Molecular Medicine, told The Wanderer.

For nearly ten years, since his daughter Sharron returned from the gulf
where she served with the 101st Airborne, Nicolson and his wife, Nancy, a
molecular biophysicist, have waged a lonely, frustrating, and often
dangerous campaign to discover the causes of GWI while working on a
treatment.

Their first big break came last week (Jan. 12, '99) when they were notified
by the U.S. Army that their research had been validated and their Institute
for Molecular Medicine would be one of three centers, with the Armed Forces
Institute of Pathology and the University of Texas at San Antonio, involved
in a $12 million Veterans' Administration funded project to develop a
treatment for the debilitating and often fatal illness, an infection known
technically as mycoplasma fermentans.

Dr. Nicolson explains that slightly under one half of the Gulf War veterans
he has tested have shown signs of infection by mycoplasma fermentans.

For the husband/wife team of researchers, the army's notice came as a
tremendous vindication after years of repeated attempts by government
agencies to ruin their careers, their credibility, and their research.

As both Nancy and Garth Nicolson wrote in the October, 1996 issue of
Criminal Politics, since he began researching the causes of GWI, he has
lived through a government sponsored "nightmare."

"We were attacked by high level military physicians, ostracized by certain
colleagues who spread rumors about our sanity, forced out of academic
institutions by a concerted effort that involved nonstop administrative
harassment, mail and courier theft, wiretaps, credit card fraud, breaking a
tenure contract, computer and documents theft, attempts to block our
scientific and medical presentations, sabotage our clinical samples, and
undermine our employees."

Their ordeal over the past eight years since 1991 has convinced them that
certain sections of the U.S. government, working with what might be called
the "eugenics elite" at the country's top research labs in the fields of
biochemistry and genetic engineering, are testing new designer biologic
agents on the American public, starting with prisoners and military
personnel.

Who They Are

The Doctors Garth and Nancy Nicolson are not your ordinary conspiracy theory
"nuts."

Garth Nicolson before setting up the Institute for Molecular Medicine, a
501c3 corporation, in Huntington Beach, Calif. was the David Bruton, Jr.,
Chair in Cancer Research and professor at the University of Texas M.D.
Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, and professor of internal medicine and
professor of pathology and laboratory medicine at the University of Texas
Medical School at Houston.

He was also adjunct professor of comparative medicine at Texas AM
University. Among the most cited scientists in the world, having published
over 480 medical and scientific papers, edited 13 books, served on the
editorial boards of 12 medical and scientific journals, and currently
serving as editor of two (Clinical  Experimental Metastasis and the Journal
of Cellular Biochemistry), he has been the recipient of numerous research
grants from the U.S. Army, the National Cancer Institute, National
Institutes of Health, the American Cancer Society, and the National
Foundation for Cancer Research. In 1998, he received the Stephen Paget Award
from the Cancer Metastasis Research Society and the Albert Schweitzer Award
in Lisbon.

Nancy Nicolson, a molecular biophysicist, was on 

[CTRL] Biowarfare, Genetically modified Mycoplasma Fermentans

1999-09-27 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.immed.org/free/htmldoc/sumpe.htm


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

SUMMARY OF PERSIAN GULF WAR ILLNESS PILOT STUDY ON

MYCOPLASMAL INFECTIONS IN VETERANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS


Garth L. Nicolson, Ph.D. and Nancy L. Nicolson, Ph.D.

The Institute for Molecular Medicine, P.O. Box 52470, Irvine, California
92619-2470

Approximately 50,000-100,000 U.S. and ~3,500 British soldiers returned from
Operation Desert Storm with unusual illnesses characterized by a variety of
chronic signs and symptoms. Our step-daughter was one of these soldiers.
Since we had some experience with a disease that caused similar complex
signs and symptoms, we proposed that the Desert Storm or Persian Gulf War
Illness (GWI) might be caused by a severe mycoplasmal infection and that it
should be treatable with appropriate antibiotics. We conducted a pilot study
of Desert Storm veterans and their families for the presence of unusual
mycoplasmal infections. This study showed that 55/73 GWI patients, including
symptomatic family members, responded to an antibiotic (doxycycline) that is
effective against a variety of mycoplasmas, and these soldiers and their
family members who were sick with the same symptoms eventually recovered
from their illness (Nicolson, G.L. and Nicolson, N.L. Doxycycline treatment
and Desert Storm J. Amer. Med. Assoc. 273: 618-619, 1995). Since this study
we have continued to gather evidence that mycoplasmal infections, and
probably other chronic infectious agents, are causing the chronic signs and
symptomsof GWI that are similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (Nicolson, G.L.
and Nicolson, N.L. Chronic fatigue illness and Operation Desert Storm. J.
Occup. Environ. Med. 38: 14-16, 1996).


Mycoplasmas are microorganisms whose genetic complexity and classification
are similar to bacteria. These microorganisms are usually indolent in normal
healthy individuals and are not often associated with severe diseases. In
fact, most adults may have had mycoplasmal pneumonia or a urogenital tract
infection caused by mycoplasmas. The mycoplasmas we have found in a sizable
fraction of the Gulf War Illness patients are unlikely to be naturally
occurring and could be Biological Weapons. We have based this notion on the
observation that the mycoplasmas that we have found in clinical blood
samples from Desert Storm veterans contain unusual DNA sequences that they
probably did not obtain in the wild. For example, we have detected
mycoplasma DNA sequences from Mycoplasma fermentans (incognitus strain) and
a few soldiers with modified Mycoplasma genitalium in veterans and their
family members with GWI as well as the HIV-1 envelope or env gene. The
former type of mycoplasma was studied by Dr. Shyh Lo, formerly of Tanox
Biosystems, a spin-off biotechnology company from the Baylor College of
Medicine, but now affiliated with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in
Washington, DC. Two points need to be clarified regarding our identification
of HIV-1 genes and mycoplasma sequences in the soldiers and symptomatic
family members that have GWI:


1. We detected HIV-1 genes in the same nucleoprotein fractions as the
mycoplasma genes but we did not detect the complete HIV-1 virus genome. Thus
these patients do not have the complete HIV-1 virus that is associated with
AIDS. This virus must contain the entire HIV-1 genome to replicate.


2. We observed a very small subset of soldiers who had another gene
sequence, the HIV-1 polymerase gene. Thus GWI patients contain individual
genes of the HIV-1 virus genome but not the complete virus.


What this might mean:


1. Mycoplasmas possessing the HIV-1 env gene could allegedly have been
engineered to make them more invasive and pathogenic and more difficult to
find. The HIV-1 env gene encodes a surface glycoprotein, gp120, that is
involved in virus attachment and entry into cells through receptors on the
cell surface. This could result in opportunistic cell attachment and
penetration of many types of cells and most tissues.


2. It is unlikely that our experiments are incorrectly detecting these
unusual genes in biological samples. We used highly specific oligonucleotide
probes for our studies. The probes are themselves unique complimentary DNA
sequences and are analogous to probes used in studies called DNA
hybridization analyses. Such techniques are well accepted in the forensic
field. If the DNA sequence from a particular infectious agent is present, we
can specifically identify its presence. Since the DNA probe is radiolabeled,
it will interlock with a specific DNA sequence from the infectious agent to
produce a radioactive signal (if the infectious DNA sequence is present). In
our case the agent DNA is detected in cell nuclear fractions, and we detect
the radioactive signal by X-ray autoradiography using Nucleoprotein Gene
Tracking (Nicolson, N.L. and Nicolson, G.L. The isolation, purification and
analysis of specific 

[CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

This is one company that is very RIPE for corporate death.
REVOKE! Monsanto's corporate charter.

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


INDEPENDENT (London) September 26


By Geoffrey Lean

MONSANTO, the genetically modified food giant, drew up plans to make
billions of dollars out of the world's water crisis, confidential company
documents reveal. The documents, seen by the Independent on Sunday,
identify a "vast economic opportunity" for the company in impending global
shortages of resources such as water.

They outline a strategy to use "environmental issues" to "deliver strong
financial returns" and create "a compelling possible future for Monsanto -
financially, strategically and aspirationally."

The revelation of the strategy - drawn up in connection with recently
dropped plans to establish water businesses in India and Mexico - follows
the publication 10 days ago of a report on the growing global
environmental crisis by the United Nations Environment Programme.

The GEO 2000 report identifies impending water shortage as the world's
greatest environmental problem after global warming. It says that over
one-third of the world's people already live in countries suffering "water
stress" and that, on present trends, two-thirds will do so by the year
2025. It adds: "The declining state of the world's freshwater resources
may prove to be the dominant issue on the environment and development
agenda of the coming century."

The confidential Monsanto document - a "sustainable development sector
strategy" and a "water business plan" use the same statistics and take up
the same theme. The business plan adds that two billion people worldwide
"still lack reasonable access to safe water" and says that this is likely
to rise to 2.5 billion over the next decade.

The document, like much of Monsanto's material on genetically modified
foods, is written in idealistic language. The strategy paper says that one
of its aims, as well as strengthening Monsanto, is "to help solve some of
the world's major environmental issues and to improve quality of life in
the process". It concludes: "We at Monsanto have been given the rare
opportunity to enjoy the wealth of spirit that comes from doing the right
thing while we are doing business."

But the documents display a sharp sense of the gains for Monsanto, both
now and in the future: "Initial entry into the water business will create
US$400m in annual revenues . furthermore, extension of the water platform
beyond the safe and healthy water business has the potential to create
several billion dollars in annual revenue."

It adds that there would be "other strategic benefits", including
"reshaping Monsanto's image as a more sustainable and environmentally
positive company".

It goes on: "Population growth and economic development will apply
increasing pressure on natural resource markets. Those pressures, and the
world's desire to prevent the consequences of those pressures if unabated,
will create vast economic opportunity."

Yesterday Dr Vandana Shiva, director of the Research Foundation for
Science, Technology and Ecology in New Delhi, India, said: "Monsanto is
seeking a new business opportunity because of the emerging water crisis.
Since water is as central to food production as seed, and without water
life is not possible, Monsanto is now trying to establish its control over
it . [as] a source of guaranteed profits. Privatisation and
commodification of water are a threat to the right to life."

A Monsanto spokesman confirmed that the company had made plans to exploit
the world water situation but had decided several months ago not to
proceed. "We do not like to talk too much about plans that were never
completed," he said. But he did not rule out that the company might return
to them in the future.



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[CTRL] Charles Hayes' Fifth Column

1999-09-27 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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At various points in his career Hayes came face-to-face with the black
reality that elements of the U.S. government were neck-deep in drug and arms
running, software piracy and a raft of other abuses. It was personal
profiteering under the guise of national policy. Like thousands of other
straight government workers who stumbled onto this dirty trail, Hayes had
little power to stop it. But he vowed one day he would deliver justice to
the well-dressed scum that were turning his beloved United States into just
another narco-republic. "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord," Hayes quips,
"But gettin' even is Chuck's." Or as the motto says on his flag-bedecked
Charles Hayes Group letterhead: "If it is to be, it is up to me." The secret
to "gettin' even" came within Hayes' reach when he was assigned to a little
known team inside the CIA called Division D, or "Squad D." According to Bob
Woodward's CIA book "Veil," Division D was "an elite group...[which] did
some of the risky breaking and entering in foreign-government offices to
plant eavesdropping equipment." Some of that was done electronically by
hacking into foreign computer systems. To do that, Hayes cryptically seems
to confirm, he was trained to maintain and customize hardware and software
for powerful, code-busting Cray supercomputers. All he will officially
admit, usually grinning through a haze of cigarette smoke: "Mah gummint
trained me we."

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JAILED CHUCK HAYES CLAIMS FBI SETUP
Chuck Hayes is a crooked government's worst nightmare.
Which is probably why he's in jail without bond.
By James Norman, December 9, 1996
The Washington Weekly, (http://dolphin.gulf.net)
Sooner or later, Chuck Hayes and the FBI were destined for a show-down.
Either he'd get them, or they'd get him. They both hate each other, with
good reason. For many months they had played cat and mouse, warily circling
each other looking for an opening. Finally, Chuck Hayes got a Pearl Harbor
sneak attack.
It was a little after 5 p.m. on Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1996. Sitting in the
office of the 8-unit Beckett Motel in the little town of Nancy in hilly
southeastern Kentucky, overlooking a scenic arm of Lake Cumberland called
Fishing Creek, Hayes watched as three men in suits drove up and walked in.
"You rent rooms by the week or by the month?" asked one. "By the week, but
not by the month," replied the white-haired motel proprietor and retired CIA
contractor. Cordial but cautious, Hayes could smell a G-man miles away.
"Doesn't really matter," replied FBI Special Agent David R. Keller: "You're
under arrest."

More than a month later, the 61-year-old Hayes remains behind bars in the
nearby Laurel County Detention Facility in London, Ky., held without bond.
He is charged with supposedly hiring an undercover FBI agent for a paltry
$5,000 to kill his son, John Anthony Hayes, a Louisville real estate
salesman whom Hayes has all but disowned over alleged drug use. The "hit"
allegedly meant crossing a state line and using the mail and telephone, so
that made it a federal case. The FBI claims to have damning evidence: taped
phone conversations ordering the supposed murder-for-hire and disposal of
the body. Trial is set for mid-January. Hayes could get 10 years in prison.

On the surface, things look grim for Hayes. On October 25, U.S. Magistrate
Judge J. B. Johnson Jr., citing Hayes' Internet nickname "Angel of Death,"
declared him a threat to society and a flight risk. So he denied Hayes the
right to post bail. Three times Hayes thought he had hired a lawyer, but
each backed out for odd reasons amid speculation of government pressure. At
a pre-trial hearing November 26, Hayes had to represent himself to get his
rushed trial pushed back from December 2. Hayes has yet to get a receipt for
the $2,600 of cash or the credit cards taken from him at the jail. And to
add insult to injury, the motel itself and the house Hayes lived in have
been turned over to his son, the would-be assassination target, as part of a
long-running inheritance dispute.

So is Hayes bummed out? Hardly. He sounds elated. Calling collect from the
jailhouse, Hayes declares with a laugh that he will not only prove the FBI's
case is a frame-up, but that it is fraught with perjury and ethics
violations. "We've notified the court we intend to prosecute FBI agent
Keller on several counts of perjury," says Hayes. In addition, the Assistant
U.S. Attorney, Martin Hatfield "failed to carry out a court order" to turn
over evidence, claims Hayes. "That can mean his law license, and I intend to
have it." In other words, he's got 'em right where they want him.

It gets better: "Charles Hayes is in jail because he tweaked the
government's nose," says his 

Re: [CTRL] More Gov't action via the Internet

1999-09-27 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Not only that-
They're attempting to lay the people bare before biowarfare agents which are
under development and in testing stages currently on the public, on military
personnel, and prison inmates.
Pay attention to information on "resistant" pathogens, on GWS (gulf war
syndrome) and on GWS-related mycoplasma fermentans, which also appears to be
linked to AIDS-  both of which seem to be linked to U.S. government
experimentation prior to "outbreaks" of any kind...
"When we looked at the history of the mycoplasma research, we found evidence
that the military (i.e., the U.S. Army) had funded the mycoplasma vaccine
testing in the Huntsville Texas Prison well before the Gulf War. This
testing has been done by a bio-tech firm in Houston - Tanox Biosystems."
[ED. NOTE: The Nicolsons believe Tanox Biosystems is partly owned by James
Baker III (George Bush's former Secretary of State and a major force in the
Reagan and Bush Administrations), George Bush is or was also a stockholder.
Tanox Biosystems is one of the firms listed in the Gulf War Veterans class
action lawsuit. Tanox Biosystems, according to the Nicolsons, works very
closely with Baylor College of Medicine which has been doing intensive
research on mycoplasmas since at least the mid-80's].

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

-Original Message-
From: Jamie Shafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 6:09 PM

Subject:  More Gov't action via the Internet


From Y2K Newswire
http://www.Y2KNewswire.com

 Last week, the FDA moved to criminalize
  the selling of colloidal silver -- a substance
  with natural, powerful antibiotic properties
   that costs mere pennies to make.

 Senators are also attempting to criminalize
 mere discussions of "non-approved drugs"
on the Internet.

Both ploys lock in  drug-company profits while stripping away
your freedom. Coincidence?

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[CTRL] GAO reports 478,000 Nerve-Gas M55 rockets are unstable as stored by DoD

1999-09-27 Thread Dave
Title: 



Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart


Chemical Weapons: Safe until 2004?
In a December 1994 report, the General Accounting Office questioned an Army 
assessment that the U.S. chemical weapons stockpile can be safely stored until 
2004. This is Congress's latest deadline for the Department of Defense to 
destroy stockpiled unitary chemical weapons--those that contain a single lethal 
agent. 

 

Of concern are 478,000 M55 rockets stored at sites in five states and on 
Johnston Atoll in the Pacific Ocean. According to GAO and technical consultant 
Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, these stockpiled M55 
rockets are unstable as stored and inadequately monitored by the Army, the 
Department of Defense's lead service in chemical matters. Deadly Sarin 
Initially, Congress directed the Department of Defense to destroy M55s and 
the rest of the stockpile by 30 September 1994. When the Army fell behind in 
implementing its $8.5 billion on-site incineration program, Congress extended 
the deadline to 2004 and asked the Army to evaluate the stockpile's physical and 
chemical integrity. The Army's July 1993 report--based on inspection and 
laboratory data and old stockpile assessment reports--said the stockpile was 
safe for now but uncertain beyond 2004. Congress asked GAO to review the Army's 
estimate and contingency plans if something goes wrong. 
Responding to the GAO report and recommendations made in 1994 by the National 
Research Council, the Army Chemical Demilitarization and Remediation Activity, 
based at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, released a statement February 16 
that said work would begin in fiscal year 1995 to determine the storage life of 
leaking and nonleaking M55 rockets. 
Each M55 rocket consists of a warhead that carries 10 pounds of nerve agent 
(GB) and an explosive charge, and a solid-rocket motor with a 
nitroglycerin-based propellant and a stabilizer that keeps heat from building up 
as the propellant decomposes. If the decomposing propellant gets too hot or 
acidic, the M55 could autoignite. 
All stockpiled weapons contain a mustard/blister agent (H) or one of two 
nerve agents (VX or GB). M55s carry GB, and, the Army report adds, nerve agents, 
especially GB, become acidic over time and can corrode metal warheads of 
rockets, mortars, and projectiles. 
"The propellant is unstable and so is the chemical agent," says Donna 
Heivilin, GAO's director of Defense Management and NASA section and author of 
the 1994 report to Congress, "and the M55 design makes it hard to physically 
separate the propellant from the GB. If the propellant blows up, the chemical 
agent would disperse. This is what makes the M55 more dangerous [than other 
stockpile weapons]." 
Threats to stockpile storage include earthquakes, plane crashes, tornadoes, 
accidents during handling and maintenance, autoignition of the propellant, and 
chemical leaks from the warhead. And the potential danger to human life is 
immense, even if one rocket ignited, because, according to the Army's 1994 
report, M55 Rocket Storage Life Evaluation, "the resulting explosion and 
fire in a storage igloo could involve many of the 4,000 rockets that typically 
are stored together." 
"The congressional mandate is that the Army dispose of these [unitary 
chemical weapons] in the safest, most environmentally sound fashion," says Craig 
Williams, national spokesperson for the Chemical Weapons Working Group, an 
international coalition of environmental and ecological groups. "But the Army's 
focus is on the comparative risk of continued storage versus incineration. We've 
been trying for years to broaden the scope of that analysis to include 
comparisons among continued storage, reconfiguration, reconfiguration with 
partial neutralization, and incineration." 
Reconfiguration, Williams says, "involves moving the M55s to a munitions 
detonation-containment building, using robots to disassemble the munitions, 
separating chemical agents from other components, and partially neutralizing the 
by-products. Then we'd have hazardous waste, which isn't great. But what we have 
now are rockets and mortars ready to launch and send nerve agents randomly into 
communities. We'd have reduced the risk of exposing chemical warfare agents to 
facility workers and the community to zero." 
At the Army Chemical Demilitarization and Remediation Activity at Aberdeen 
Proving Ground, Mark Evans, special assistant to the program manager, says this 
is easier than it sounds. To neutralize the M55s, he says, "we'd have to build 
90 percent of the demilitarization [high temperature incinerator] facility we 
plan to build anyway. We are updating cost estimates for rocket separation, but 
there are no good neutralization techniques for VX and GB, and we'd produce a 
lot of waste. The Army believes that if the risk assessments show the rockets 
can be stored through 2013, our incineration program is 

Re: [CTRL] Propaganda in a Democratic Society

1999-09-27 Thread M.A. Johnson

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Sean McDougal forwarded:

There are two kinds of propaganda - rational propaganda
in favor of action that is consonant with the
enlightened self-interest of those who make it and
those to whom it is addressed, and non-rational
propaganda that is not consonant with anybody's
enlightened self-interest, but is dictated by, and
appeals to, passion.

MJ:
This is absurd.
*ANY* action by *ANY* person is done so for their OWN
rational self-interest.

Propaganda is the means of control IN a DEMOCRACY among
other variations.  This was revealed by many such as
Hobbes:

   A democracy is no more than an aristocracy of
   orators. The people are so readily moved by
   demagogues that control must be exercised by
   the government over speech and press.



Additionally the idea that 'democracy' is somehow congruent
and or compatible with its opposite 'individual freedom'
adds 'whipped topping' to Huxley's entire piece of nonsense.


Regard$,
--MJ

Except in the sacred texts of democracy and in the incantations of
orators, we hardly take the trouble to pretend that the rule of the
majority is not at bottom a rule of force. What other virtue can
there be in fifty-one percent except the brute fact that fifty-one
is more than forty-nine? The rule of fifty-one per cent is a
convenience, it is for certain matters a satisfactory political
device, it is for others the lesser of two evils, and for others it
is acceptable because we do not know any less troublesome method of
obtaining a political decision. But it may easily become an absurd
tyranny if we regard it worshipfully, as though it were more than a
political device. We have lost all sense of its true meaning wheen
we imagine that the opinion of fifty-one per cent is in some high
fashion the true opinion of the whole hundred per cent, or indulge
in the sophistry that the rule of a majority is based upon the ultimate
equality of man. -- Walter Lippmann

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[CTRL] No More Guns for Gun Nuts

1999-09-27 Thread Das GOAT

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 "``The value of this new law is not so much that police can seize your
guns [if you're a "nut"},' said Connecticut representative Lawlor, sponsor of
the state law..
 "``It gives police a system to investigate a person who poses a
potential threat. The police can now look into a person's behavior and
prevent future tragedy by intervening.''


Law Targets Dangerous Gunowners

By ADAM GORLICK
.c The Associated Press

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - Before Columbine High School, before the Atlanta day
trader offices, before the Jewish community center in Los Angeles, there was
Matthew Beck.

In March 1998, the 35-year-old accountant went on a suicidal shooting spree
in his offices at the Connecticut Lottery headquarters. Four people died
before Beck put the gun to his own head.

Lawmakers reacted with one of the toughest gun-seizure laws on the books.

Starting next month, Connecticut police will be allowed to confiscate guns
from anyone determined to be an immediate danger to himself or others. The
law is rooted in the notion that rampages such as Beck's are preceded by a
detectable descent into madness.

Critics say the law tramples the Second Amendment and fear it could lead to
unwarranted searches and seizures.

Supporters say the standards for seizing guns are so high the law will seldom
be used.

From both sides, Connecticut's law - apparently the first of its kind - is
attracting attention.

Legally seizing a gun will require more than suspicion, said state police Lt.
Robert Kiehm.

There must be evidence that the person recently tortured animals, threatened
to kill himself or others or acted violently. A police investigation must
conclude there is no other way to keep the person from doing harm, and a
warrant must be issued by a judge.

The law also requires a hearing within 14 days to determine whether the gun
should be returned.

``You need probable cause just to begin an investigation,'' Kiehm said. ``But
it gives police officers the power to take some proactive steps instead of
waiting for something to happen.''

Beck had threatened to kill his bosses at the lottery several days before the
rampage. His co-workers were so nervous, one started bringing a gun to work
for his own protection, said Rep. Michael Lawlor, the law's sponsor.

Under the new law, if those co-workers had ``called the cops and said Beck
was talking about guns and making threats, something could have been done
before the shooting happened,'' Lawlor said.

Gun-rights advocates argue that allowing police to take weapons from people
who haven't done anything wrong violates their Constitutional right to bear
arms

``You don't forfeit your rights just because you might do something bad,''
said Dennis Fusaro, director of state legislation for Gun Owners of America.
The National Rifle Association declined to comment.

The law also could lead to illegal searches, said Rep. Richard Tulisano.

``Now police can say, `We saw you kick a dog peeing on your petunias, so now
we could go in your house and look for guns because you might be
dangerous,''' Tulisano said. ``What happens if they're looking for guns and
they find drugs? This law becomes the basis for which people could invade
your home.''

Lawmakers in other states say the focus on prevention is the law's strength.

Illinois Rep. Tom Dart, a Chicago Democrat, said he plans to introduce a
similar Illinois proposal in November.

``The thing that frustrates me is that when they're pulling bodies out of a
house, neighbors are telling the police 'Yeah, the guy who shot them was nuts
- we all knew that,''' Dart said. ``But everyone says that there's nothing
that they could have done to stop the shooting.''

Steven Duke, a Yale University law professor, said he doubts the law would
have prevented Mark O. Barton from killing nine people at two brokerage firms
in Atlanta in July.

``What guy who wants to shoot somebody is really going to be deterred because
his pet weapon has been confiscated?'' Duke asked.

But Lawlor said the new law could stop people like Benjamin Smith, the white
supremacist who killed two people and wounded nine during a two-state
shooting spree targeting Jews, blacks and Asians.

Smith's criminal record and reputation for passing out hate literature could
have prompted police to take action, Lawlor said.

``The value of this law is not so much that police will seize your guns,''
Lawlor said. ``It gives police a system to investigate a person who poses a
threat. If the police never confiscate a person's guns, they can at least
look into the person's behavior and perhaps prevent a tragedy by
intervening.''

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[CTRL] South Florida: A Brief History

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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A HREF="http://www.historical-museum.org/history/southfla.htm"South Florida
/A
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Historical Museum of Southern Florida
South Florida:
A Brief History




It wouldn't have been too surprising if Miami had been renamed "Flagler"
at the incorporation meeting back in 1896, since it was in that year
that the Florida East Coast Railway, owned by Henry Morrison Flagler,
reached Miami. Before that time, most of the people in the area were
homesteaders and the only "towns" were Coconut Grove and Lemon City.
Persuaded by land offers from Julia Tuttle and William and Mary
Brickell, which were accompanied by fresh orange blossoms to prove that
Miami was frost-free, Flagler agreed to extend his railroad south from
West Palm Beach, build a luxurious hotel, and lay out the city of Miami.
John Sewell, who would later serve as Mayor of Miami, observed, "The
Florida East Coast Railroad reached here the latter part of April, 1896,
 and the passenger trains were soon put on. Then it seemed that the
flood gates were opened and people came from everywhere." Flagler kept
his promise by also building the Royal Palm Hotel, constructing houses
for workers, dredging a ship channel, and donating land for schools,
churches and public buildings. When 368 voters incorporated the city on
July 28, 1892, however, the name remained Miami.

1896 was not the first time the banks of the Miami River were the
location of a community. Hundreds of years earlier, before Christopher
columbus discovered the New World, the Tequesta Indians lived there. The
first to appreciate South Florida's mild climate, the Tequestans lives
simply. Abundant food supplied from the land and sea made agricultural
activities unnecessary.

In 1566, the Tequesta settlement was visited by Pedro Menendez de
Aviles, his men, and Brother Francisco Villareal. One year earlier,
Menendez had founded St. Augustine, the oldest city in the United
States, and now came to Miami to establish a Jesuit mission. Within a
few years it was abandoned and another attempt to Christianize the
Tequestans was not made until 1743. That effort was also short-lived.

During the more than two centuries that Florida was controlled by Spain,
the Tequestans and other Prehistoric Indians of Florida were decimated
by European diseases and warfare. The lands they vacated attracted
people from several of the Creek tribes in Georgia and Alabama who had
entered Florida as early as 1704. Collectively, they became known as
Seminoles, and during the ninteenth century they would engage in a
series of bloody wars against the United States partly to defend their
right to live in Florida. After the conclusion of the Third Seminole War
in 1858, the few hundred Indians remaining in the state lived in the
Everglades.

The first permanent white settlers in the Miami area arrived in the
early 1800s. During the decades that followed, a wide variety of
individuals left their mark on the history of this area. In the 1830s,
statesman Richard Fitzpatrick from South Carolina operated, with slave
labor, a successful plantation on the Miami River. He cultivated sugar
cane, bananas, corn and tropical fruit. Major William S. Harney, in
command at Ft. Dallas which was located on Fitzpatrick's Planatation on
the north bank of the Miami River, led several raids against the Indians
during the Second Seminole War (1835-1842).

George Ferguson made $24,000 in 1850 by selling the comptie starch he
manufactured in his mill farther up river. Carpetbagger William Gleason
dominated Dade County politics during the Reconstruction Era. A few
years later, Kirk Munroe, well known writer of books for boys, built a
home in Coconut Grove. Many of the other settlers were homesteaders,
attracted to the area by offers of 160 acres of free land by the federal
government. And nearly everyone took an interest in the wrecking
industry--the salvaging of cargo from ships wrecked on the Florida
reefs. Those pioneer days, when the mail came once a week, travel was
primarily by sailboat, children attended one-room schoolhouses, and the
trading post was the lone store, ended with the arrival of Flagler's
Florida East Coast Railway. Soon there were doctors and lawyers, shoe
stores and hardware stores, electric lights and telephones.

Beginning in 1896, blacks provided the primary labor force for the
building of Miami. Restrictive clauses in land deeds confined blacks to
the northwest section of Miami which became known as Colored Town. This
community, today's Overtown, established its own stores and businesses,
schools, churches, a hospital, library, newspaper, and social
organizations. As was the case in the rest of the nation, Miami did not
face segregation and civil rights issues until the decades following
World War II. The outbreak of rioting in the spring of 1980 is evidence
that the struggle for equal rights continues.

As thousands of people moved to Miami in the early 

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1999-09-27 Thread Aol user

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Who rejected this post and why???
What happened to free speech, especially in this group??
Who is controlling speech here?

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Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread Bill

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Gold was what? 32 bux an ounce in 64, then went to 800
when?  and then leveled out for a couple of decades at 300
or so which is inflation of magnitude well hidden...what a
jokeoil is finite consumable...its use increases its
value...gold values are all contrived but are the only thing
trusted in the long run by the people who have been running
the banking industry for centuries...again, safra, and the
like.  Safra banks only pay like 2-3% interest on money
saved there, but those savings are backed with gold...they
don't need to pay interest because the savings are guarded
against all fluctuations and connivings within currencys,
again, by gold.

Ric Carter wrote:

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  OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going??

 Down. Gold's value continues to fall, as it generally has over
 the last 30-40 years.  See the current price in US$ - track that
 price over the decades - factor in inflation - reach your own
 conclusion.  Mine: gold is a sucker's bet.

  We heard about the bullion in E Timor, (assuming it is true)
  the reason why the UN is there, to get it out..

 A not-very-thoughtful assumption, considering that the petroleum
 reserves in the Timor Sea are worth orders-of-magnitude MORE than
 any gold in East Timor.

  and there have been moves across the globe on the gold market..

 Count the dollar amounts of those gold moves.  Count the dollar
 amounts of the increase in petroleum prices [100%] this year, with
 OPEC enforcing production limits this year.  Compare the amounts.
 Judge the significance yourself.  My judgement: gold's value is
 minescule compared to oil's value.

  Are the banks pulling in their reserves for the coming run?..
  or are they collecting in for the reps?

 Any big players 'collecting' gold right now must sure like its
 ornamental properties.  Gold has some subjective value in jewelry,
 a very real value in electronics [your computer is filled with
 gold threads and coatings], and absolutely NO value in backing
 significant currencies.

  Where is it all going?..Germany? Switzerland? Antarctic or US?
  The crash is upon us and the big players are taking steps.

 And those steps are... ??

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[CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426

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You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science technologies
if you think in the conventional framework.

You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space

Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several reasons
especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of dilution not one
molecule of the physical substance remains.

But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon.  See
MEMORY OF WATER  page 26 for the second curve, which is Hahnemanns 'spirit
essense"

If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give yourslf a
headache, get frustrated and never understand..

Loosen up your mind.

ANTONY C SUTTON  D Sc.  etc

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[CTRL] New Virus Detected; Did it come from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center?

1999-09-27 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/regional/092799encephalitis.html

September 27, 1999


   With New Virus, Experts
   Suspect More Died of
   Encephalitis

   By DAVID BARSTOW

  Having discovered that they have most
  likely been looking for the wrong
   virus, public health officials are
   investigating whether as many as eight
   more people than previously reported
   have died in New York City's mysterious
   encephalitis outbreak.

   Until Sunday, local health officials had
   attributed 3 deaths to the epidemic, with
   15 more people infected in New York City
   and Westchester County. The disease, they
   said, was St. Louis encephalitis.

   But now that
   additional
   laboratory tests have
   detected the presence
   of a different virus in
   some of those who
   died during the
   outbreak, officials
   are confronting the
   possibility that the
   scope of the
   epidemic may may
   be greater than they
   first thought.

   Dr. Neal L. Cohen,
   the New York City
   Health
   Commissioner, said
   Sunday that blood
   and spinal fluid
   samples from 77
   people who tested
   negative for St. Louis
   encephalitis would
   now be re-examined
   for the new virus,
   identified as the
   West Nile virus, or a
   close variant known
   as the Kunjin virus.

   Seven of those 77
   people later died,
   but their deaths were
   not publicly
   attributed to the
   epidemic because
   they had tested
   negative for St. Louis
   encephalitis, Dr.
   Cohen said. "It
   would have been
   irresponsible for us
   to give the public the
   perception that
   people that were
   dying who tested
   negative were
   related to this
   outbreak," he said.

   But that approach
   has changed now
   that tests have
   indicated the
   presence of the West
   Nile or Kunjin virus
   in one of the seven
   people who died
   after testing negative
   for St. Louis
   encephalitis.

   Kristine A. Smith, a
   spokeswoman for
   the State Department
   of Health, said
   Sunday that a total
   of eight deaths
   during the outbreak
   have been
   "associated with
   clinical encephalitis
   symptoms." Three of those deaths, she
   said, were reported to state officials late
   last week.

   "Now we know what to look for," Ms.
   Smith said. "We were looking for St. Louis
   encephalitis, and we weren't finding it. If
   we know exactly what we are looking for,
   it's going to be easier to find it."

   In all, Dr. Cohen said, city officials are
   now investigating whether the West Nile
   or Kunjin viruses were present in 11 of the
   people who died during the outbreak. He
   cautioned, however, that several of those
   deaths may not be related to encephalitis.

   Brain samples from seven people who
   died have been sent, or are en route, to the
   Emerging Diseases Laboratory at the
   University of California at Irvine, said W.
   Ian Lipkin, director of the center. This is
   the laboratory that last week first
   identified the virus as either the West
   Nile, found in Africa, or the Kunjin, found
   in Australia.

   Neither virus has ever been detected in the
   Western Hemisphere.

   Late on Friday, the Federal Centers for
   Disease Control and Prevention also
   detected a West Nile-like virus in brain
   tissue extracted from one person who
   died, confirming the initial results from
   the California lab. The C.D.C. has also
   detected the virus in dead birds found in
   the New York City region.

   Taken together, the findings have caused
   public health officials to revisit many of
   the same questions they were asking at
   the outset of the epidemic in August:
   Where did it come from? How widely has
   it spread?

   "The scope of the epidemic, we want to
   get as firm a grip on it was we can," Ms.
   Smith said.

   In a news conference Sunday, Mayor
   Rudolph W. Giuliani acknowledged that
   the health toll may turn out to be higher
   now that scientists are focusing on a
   different disease.

   "What we anticipate is over the next day
   or two they probably are going to
   reclassify a number of cases as Nile fever
   that previously had not been found to be
   St. Louis encephalitis," he said.

   "These are not new cases," he added.
   "These are reclassifications of old cases.
   And in most situations, the people have
   already been released from the hospital,
 

[CTRL] BARI case reinstated

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal

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Bari's case vs. police reinstated
via Press Democrat  http://www.pressdemo.com/


Sep. 25, 1999

By MIKE GENIELLA
Press Democrat Staff Writer

Breathing new life into a 1991 civil rights lawsuit filed by the late Earth
First! organizer Judi Bari, a federal appeals court on Friday reinstated
claims that Oakland police and the FBI conspired to falsely accuse the
North Coast activist of responsibility for her own car bombing.

A three-judge panel ruled that three Oakland police investigators along
with several FBI agents aren't entitled to "qualified immunity," a
liability exemption generally granted to law enforcement authorities in
their routine handling of criminal investigations.

In a 25-page opinion, justices agreed that an appeal filed in April by a
legal team representing Bari and her co-defendant, Darryl Cherney, raises
"a genuine issue of fact" as to whether police investigators Michael Sims,
Robert Chenault and Michael Sitterud conspired to assist the FBI in
interferring with the activists' political activities during a 1990
"Redwood Summer" of logging protests.

The ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a lower
court ruling granting law enforcement authorities the immunity.

The judges said there's merit to the lawsuit's contentions that police
investigators and FBI agents acted in concert to falsely portray Bari and
Cherney as being responsible for the May 24, 1990, explosion in an Oakland
neighborhood that blew up their car. Cherney was slightly injured, but Bari
was left permanently disabled.

Neither Oakland police representatives nor Karen Rodrigue, deputy city
attorney for Oakland, could be reached Friday for comment on the ruling.

Dennis Cunningham, Bari's and Cherney's San Francisco lawyer, said Friday's
ruling could finally allow the Bari lawsuit to go to trial after eight
years of skirmishing.

"It was a major hurdle that we needed to clear, and we did," said
Cunningham.

Bari died in March 1997 from breast cancer.

Cunningham said he believes the circuit court's swift review of the Bari
appeal -- the case was argued and submitted on April 15 -- "suggests that
the justices understand what's behind eight years of trial delay and
stonewalling by police and the FBI."

Cherney said Friday that the court ruling "is as significant for activists
as recent revelations about the FBI and Waco."

Justices said that, contrary to the lower court's opinion, sufficient
circumstantial evidence exists to bolster Bari's claims that the police
intended to inhibit Earth First! recruitment of college students and others
for a summerlong series of logging demonstrations, and that police entered
into a conspiracy with FBI agents "to further this goal."

Among the specifics judges cited were "misinformation" and "omissions" from
search warrant affidavits prepared by Oakland police after the bombing, and
officers' apparent willingness to provide inaccurate information to the
news media, "an act which is consistent with the desire to create a
negative impression of Earth First! among the public."

The court also said that after the car bombing, police insisted that they
had relied on the FBI for an assessment of the crime scene, and
identification of Bari and Cherney as "terrorists" who were responsible for
their own bombing. But justices said Oakland police at the time in fact had
a division responsible for monitoring Earth First!, and that the agency had
cooperated with the FBI in looking into the group's activities prior to the
bombing incident.

Because police investigators acted in close cooperation with the FBI in
planning and conducting their investigation into the car bombing, and
publicly contributed misinformation about Bari and Cherney, the court found
that it is likely the plaintiffs could show the existence of a conspiracy
"implicit or explicit" between the police and FBI agents.

Press Democrat  http://www.pressdemo.com/

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Re: [CTRL] FW: Rejected posting to CTRL@LISTSERV.AOL.COM

1999-09-27 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Aol user wrote:
Who rejected this post and why???
What happened to free speech, especially in this group??
Who is controlling speech here?

I would guess the poster of the message had exceeded the 7-per-day limit
this list imposes on everyone.  Or the original poster sent it in
utilizing an email address that isn't subscribed to the list.

Obviously the speech was NOT 'controlled', as the post eventually got
thru...

As for the concept of 'freedom of speech', the 2nd amendment only applies
to GOVERNMENT controlling speech, not private entities controlling it


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[CTRL] [2] The Birth of the City of Miami

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found2.htm"The Birth of
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The Birth of Miami, Part 2



"Flagler had decided to see this "freeze proof" section for himself. In
late February 1895, the railroad baron traveled by special train to West
Palm Beach before transferring to a launch for a trip down the Florida
East Coast Line canal, which by this time was completed from Lake Worth
to New River. The party spent the night in Fort Lauderdale, and left by
carriage the next morning to travel to the northern shore of Biscayne
Bay where they were met by Tuttle's launch and brought to Miami.
Ingraham recalled that the day was beautiful and "that night was the
most perfect moonlight that I have ever seen." Before bedtime, Mr.
Flagler made the decision to accept the offers of Tuttle and Brickell,
extend his railroad to Miami and build a resort hotel there. (25)

The party returned to St. Augustine in early March with a verbal
agreement to extend the railroad to Miami and to develop a city in that
locale, but formal contracts had yet to be drawn up and signed. No
official announcements were made at the time, although rumors over the
meaning of the trip began to appear in the press. (26)

The Titusville paper observed that, "Some optimists believe the railroad
will be extended to deep water off Key Largo, others think a mammoth
hotel will be constructed on Bay Biscayne." (27) From Sanford: "Flagler
has decided to extend to Bay Biscayne and also he has purchased half of
Key Largo." (28) The Jacksonville report noted that the natives of Bay
Biscayne are "very much stirred up by the advent of the big
millionaire's [visit]. It is generally supposed that this tour means the
extension of the east coast line to Bay Biscayne." (29)

Preliminary to drawing up a formal contract, Flagler wrote Tuttle a long
letter on April 22, 1895, recapping her offer of land to him in exchange
for his extension of the railroad to Miami, laying out a city and
building a hotel. The terms, as they appeared in the letter, provided
that Tuttle would award Flagler a 100-acre tract of land. The boundaries
of this tract would stretch approximately from the bay on the east (at
that time the shoreline ran along today's Biscayne Boulevard) to
Southwest Third Avenue on the west, and from Southeast and Southwest
First Street on the north to the Miami River on the south. Within this
tract, a 13-acre parcel, on which Tuttle's home stood, was reserved as
her "home lot." It was bounded by today's South Miami Avenue on the w
est, Southeast Second Avenue on the east, Southeast Second Street on the
north and the Miami River on the south. (30)

The remainder of the Tuttle property at the Miami site would be divided
between Flagler and Tuttle. Flagler professed in the letter that he
would prefer to have his portion in a solid tract, but told Tuttle he
would "agree to accept your ideas, viz: an equitable division by
alternate lots." (31) Tuttle wisely inserted and stuck to this provision
so that her lots would be as valuable as Flagler's as he laid out the
streets and developed the town. The larger divided tract was bounded
approximately by the Miami River on the south and southwest, Northeast
and Northwest Eleventh Street on the north, Northwest Seventh Avenue on
the west, and the Bay on the east. This offer would eventually be drawn
up into a contract that was signed by Tuttle and Flagler dated October
24, 1895. (32)

The April 1895 letter also mentioned that Flagler had sent a similar
missive to William Brickell in reply to his offer for extending the
railroad to Miami. Flagler said that Brickell was including 100 acres of
land at New River; thus he felt justified in asking for the same from
Tuttle. (33)

Flagler's letter to Brickell, and the ensuing contract, have not
survived, but from the course of events we can assume the offer was
similar to that of Tuttle's. The Brickells would divide a portion of
their property south of the Miami River with Flagler and, in turn, the
industrialist would construct a bridge across the Miami River. As with
the Tuttle tract, the property would be subdivided by alternate lots.
The boundaries of this property were approximately South Miami Avenue on
the east, Southwest and Northwest Eighth Avenue on the west, Southwest
Fifteenth Road and Southwest Eleventh Street on the south, and the Miami
River on the north. Also included was the New River land. The Brickells
reserved their home lot at the mouth of the Miami River and all property
between the bay and South Miami Avenue. (34)


The Railroad Extension


While the railroad's extension to Miami remained unannounced in the
spring of 1895, rumors of this possibility continued to multiply,
fueling real estate activity in the Biscayne Bay area at a time when
land prices throughout the rest of Florida were 

Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426

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There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia  over MONSANTO
and its genetically modified seeds.   US even used the ECHELON system to
intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto.  NSA denies this but
they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability").

The press in the US has been mostly silent  Gutless.

This is a prime example of a transnational  firm implementing New World
Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through seeds
and water.

It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as  firm, through revocation
of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO.   It is
a  narrow and specific target.  Very vulnerable.
Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place (Monsanto
products) and infowar.

ASU

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Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal

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This earth could sustain 20 times the current population if managed
properly.
''
SM:
Should we press those limits?

What makes you think that if we can't curb our population voluntarily now
that we could do it after a few more centuries' momentum of baby booming?

You seem to be saying that we should max out and push the evelope as far as
it will go.  That IS flirting with our own doom and that is precisely my
point.
..
The problem is not overpopulation, it's greed, envy, poor management,
worldwide socialism, multi-national corporations, globalists, and corrupt
governments and people that is the problem.
..
SM:
There is not ONE problem.  I get tired of hearing "THE problem is..."

Greed is a problem, yes.  Perhaps we can do something about it.

Poor management is a problem, yes.  Perhaps we can do something about that.

Multi-national corporations would not be a problem if we subjected them to
sane rules.

As far as globalism is concerned, it is the globalization of power, as it is
now wielded [in the hands of the few] that is the problem, not globalization
itself.  Everything we do has an affect on things around us.  If we are
going to abide by rules based on REALITY, we are going to have to admit that
having clean air laws in one place does little good if we do not have clean
air rules in all places.  All of the things that we attempt to hold in check
with laws [violence, pollution, slavery] do not adhere to national
boundaries so we can do little to curb them by saying that such things are
up to the individual jurisdictions of power mongers.  Freedom to be happy
and safe can be violated by freedoms of sovereignty.  We must define what
kinds of freedom we will champion because the word "freedom" is too vague.
Am I a champion of freedom if I say that China or Nike should be "free" to
do whatever it likes to the lowly person or the lowly community, free to
dump its wastes in whatever low-income village it can find that is
defenseless?  Fair trade, right?

As far as socialism is concerned [i.e. vs. capitalism], should everyone have
a say in how resources are used or should it be only up to those with enough
capital, and enough bloodthirstiness to amass such?  Only those that hoard
[or those that repeat words that have not thought through thoroughly] seem
to be in favor of holding the earth in common.
..
But for discussion sake, let's say overpopulation is fact.  The only humane
way to reduce the population in the numbers the psycho-pseudo-science
sociopath elitists are calling for is an all volunteer system.
One must of their own free will volunteer to be put to death.
..
SM:
So if one village decides to take far more than it can use, leaving another
village to die, the latter is overstepping its bounds to demand to use what
the other cannot?
..
No one can be forced to surrender their lives for population control.
However,  it should be law that all Population Control Advocates MUST
volunteer to be put to death.
..
SM:
No need to be so dramatic.  No one is saying put everyone to death.  I, on
the other hand, AM for making having a lot of children a legal issue.  Not
very Catholic of me, I'm sure.

On the other hand, a child born in the United States consumes as much as 800
times as much as a child born in some other parts of the world.  I'll bet we
can make a big dent in the rapidity of resource diminishment by merely
stressing simplicity over novelty.  The more hooked we are on the novel, the
more new and better and bigger things must be produced.
..
And they MUST die first.  Then all others that would volunteer.
This would show leadership by example, and would also save the Population
Control Advocates from being the hypocrites that they would be if they
refused to volunteer. Anything else would be unfair.
..
SM:
So is it fair that those who choose to have many children or to use vast
amounts of resources should endanger the livelihood or everyone else?  Is it
unfair to put a stop to unfairness?

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Re: [CTRL] Chaos Magick amp; Paradigmal Piracy

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
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Chaos magicians may practice the techniques of chaos magick but they must do
so within a specific paradigm, which roughly means that a chaos magician
must believe in something in order to obtain resultsChaos magicians
are Setians, Satanists, Santeros, Sorcerers, Kitchen Witches, Thelemites,
Cabalists, etc. etc.
..
SM:
Magick is defined as manifesting situations in accordance with the will.

This is the most popular definition among actual magicians and as a result
you can see that there are millions of people that fit into the definition
of magicians, according to magicians.

For instance, the US goverment does not get its way in the world by kicking
everyone's ass that disobeys.  It gets its way from most people and this
happens because when the US DOES kick someone's ass, it is highly publicized
and very dramatic.  This scares most into obeying even though,
theoretically, the US does not have the capability of truly ENFORCING its
will in all the places that it counts on as its puppets.  It is no different
than seeing how many people are afraid of the dark.  Most of these people
will NEVER experience something menacing and evil coming out of the dark but
because it has been drilled into their heads by media magicians [producers
and directors]they will always have something to fear.  There will always be
darkness and as a result, people will always be afraid [as long as this
brainwashing continues], therefore people will always be easily manipulated.

This situation is called by policing bodies "maintaining a threat."  It is
the THREAT of reprisal that keeps most in line, not incessant reprisal
itself.  This is a psychological head game and most psychological head games
are forms of magick.  In this case the magicians are media spin doctors.


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Re: [CTRL] ..standing up to [Marxist] teacher unions.

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal

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It seems that those that fear that Karl Marx's legacy lurks around the
corner in the shadows usually portray ANY union as Marxist.  In fact, one
common pattern I have found in those that rail against socialist ideas [even
though most don't even understand them] is that they usually are threatened
by ANY group that holds things in common and/or strives to achieve any kind
of group consciousness.  Such things are far too social for the anti-social
mindsets of the rugged individual, the hero that stands alone in a field of
vanquished foes, the deluded person that is convinced, at least on a
subconscious level, that he/she is going to be the hero somehow; this is the
same person that is firmly under the grip of the media because his/her ego
has grown to the point that a red cape waved in front of him/her can lead
such a bull straight into a pit filled with snakes.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Why Things Are the Way They Are

1999-09-27 Thread Das GOAT

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 Railroad Gauge

The US Standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5
inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used?
Because that's the way they built them in England, and the US railroads
were built by English expatriates.

Why did the English people build them like that?  Because the first rail
lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways,
and that's the gauge they used.

Why did "they" use that gauge then? Because the people who built the
tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons,
which used that wheel spacing.

Okay!  Why did the wagons use that odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried
to use any other spacing the wagons would break on some of the old, long
distance roads, because that's the spacing of the old wheel ruts.

So, who built these old rutted roads? The first long distance roads in
Europe were built by Imperial Rome for the benefit of their legions. The
roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts? The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear
of destroying their wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots.  Since
the chariots were made for, or by, Imperial Rome, they were all alike in the
matter of wheel spacing.

Thus, we have the answer to the original question. The United States
standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original
specification for an Imperial Roman army war chariot. Specs and
Bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you are handed a
specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you
may be exactly right.

Because the Imperial Roman chariots were made to be just wide enough to
accommodate the back ends of two war horses.


Now the twist to the story There's an interesting extension of the story
about railroad gauge and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle
sitting on the launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to
the sides of the main fuel tank. These are the solid rocket boosters, or SRBs.

The SRBs are made by Thiokol, at a factory in Utah.  The engineers who
designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the
SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The
railroad line to the factory runs through a tunnel in the mountains. The
SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than a
railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses'
behinds.

So, a major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced
transportation system was determined by the width of a horse's ass!

I am sure that a lot of what we do is controlled by similar thinking!

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[CTRL] Questioning Chemotherapy

1999-09-27 Thread Gavin Phillips

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 I haven't read it yet, but Johnathen Eisen recommends it, so I'll get around
to it eventually. Gavin.


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Hi! I'm Ralph Moss, author of Questioning Chemotherapy. I want to tell you
how and why I came to write this book.
I started as a believer in chemotherapy. As a science writer at Memorial
Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, I wrote articles praising the
latest advances in chemotherapy. I was impressed by the then-emerging cures
for Hodgkin's disease, acute lymphocytic leukemia and some other relatively
rare cancers. At the same time, I began to learn how skeptical many good
scientists were about chemotherapy's future.

The major objection to "chemo" was that these drugs did not discriminate
between normal and cancerous cells, but attacked all rapidly dividing cells .
One scientist described this method as "trying to melt a patient's left ear ,
while leaving the right one alone." It seemed particularly inappropriate in
the treatment of solid tumors of adults, which are often slow-growing.

Because chemotherapy drugs were general cellular poisons, they could be
terribly toxic. They were also very expensive for patients and for society as
a whole. When I learned about the links between the pharmaceutical industry
and the cancer establishment (later detailed in my book, The Cance r
Industry) I understood the commercial reason that such an inadequate modality
was so heavily promoted.

In 1989, a German biostatistician named Ulrich Abel, Ph.D. published a
groundbreaking monograph called "Chemotherapy of Advanced Epithelial Cancer.
It made few waves in the U.S. and soon went out of print. In this excellent
work, however, Dr. Abel rigorously demonstrated that chemotherapy had never
been scientifically proven to extend life through randomized clinical trials
(RCTs) in the vast majority of "epithelial cancers." These are the common
types of carcinoma that affect most cancer patients in the Western world.

Some years later, in response to many requests, I decided to write a critical
book about chemotherapy (a sort of companion piece to Cancer Therapy). I took
Abel's out-of-print work as my starting point, but also consulted the work of
many other students of chemotherapy. In this book, I update statistics and
speak about all cancers and not just carcinomas. I go into depth on the
politics and economics of the chemotherapy industry, on the biases, fallacies
and frauds that occur, and on ways of warding off the sometimes catastrophic
side effects that accompany this treatment.

The essential point of the book is that one must question the measure of
success in chemotherapy. Oncologists have tended to equate an increasing
percentage of "responses" with progress. However, responses are generally
measurements of tumor shrinkage, for as little as one month's duration. One
cannot automatically assume that a response--even a complete response--will
lead to increased survival. One must look for increased survival. Yet the
number of cancers for which life prolongation through chemotherapy has been
proven through randomized clinical trials is very small. (I do bend over
backwards to point these out, when they occur.)

So when a doctor says her regimen yields a 40 percent response rate, "what
exactly is she promising? A short-term shrinkage of tumors--or actual
life-prolongation? What effect is this treatment likely to have on the
patient's quality of life? And what is the cost?" It is only by obtaining
information such as this that patients are able to make rational treatment
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Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve

1999-09-27 Thread Ric Carter

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 You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science
 technologies if you think in the conventional framework.

Ah, so we have to stop demanding that they be demonstrably effective?

 You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space

We already live in 4-space - it's called space-time.

 Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several
 reasons especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of
 dilution not one molecule of the physical substance remains.

Yes, it's hard for non-existant stuff to work.

 But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon.

Posit whatever you will, but demonstrate 1) the existence of what
you've posited and 2) the validity of your claims.

But the theoretical basis of homeopathy is irrelevant if it doesn't
work.  If it worked, it would be exploited commercially on a mass-
industrial basis.  Major drug firms would squeeze every possible
dollar out of it.  As it is, homeopathy is well-marketed to the
credulous, and works about as well as any placebo can be expected
to.  But if SKF Beecham and CibaGeigy et al can't find effective
uses for homeopathic preparations, why should I trust a clerk at
a GNC assuring me that their green goo is good?

Like I said, next time you get cholera, see a homeopath.

 See MEMORY OF WATER  page 26 for the second curve, which is
 Hahnemanns 'spirit essense"

Ah, "spirit essense" - to claim it, and to establish it, are rather
different endeavors. Demonstrate the existence of 'spirits', then
demonstrate that water has 'spirit', then show that water has a
"spirit essense" and 'memory', then produce independent replication
of these experiments, and I'll start to take such claims seriously.

 If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give
 yourslf a headache, get frustrated and never understand..

Homeopathy is based on a doctrine.  Doctrines suck.  Science is
based on the rigorous testing of ideas - doctrines tend to fade
away under such scrutiny.  Science WILL give you a headache, but
it works.  Doctrines will soothe your mind, but won't lead you
to fruitful discoveries.  Bother.

 Loosen up your mind.

Tighten up your standards.

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Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards

1999-09-27 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Amelia K Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sorry, but this begs for the old saw "Well, it certainly deters ONE
 person !"

Zap everybody - then we're ALL deterred.  Hey, it'll work.

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Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece

1999-09-27 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Makes me think about golden seal root.  For quite some time
 it was the only thing on the market that would beat a
 urinalysis test.  Can't see the placebo in that.

If you've taken enough goldenseal to beat urinalysis, then
you've taken far more than a 'homeopathic' preparation.  In
homeopathy, the 'active' substance is diluted until there's
nothing left.  Eating herbs isn't homeopathy, it's herbology.
Yes, many herbs/plants/fungi/etc contain potent chemicals -
aspirin is derived from willow bark, penicillin from a mold,
LSD from a fungus and a plant family.  But we use those
compounds in physiologically-active quantities, not the in
ghostly dilutions of homeopathy.

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[CTRL] OEN 9/26/99

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Today's Lesson from Cat's Cradle

by Kurt Vonnegut


We watched the Laboratory's receptionist turn on the many educational
exhibits that lined the foyer's walls. The receptionist was a tall, thin
girl--icy, pale. At her crisp touch, lights twinkled, wheels turned,
flasks bubbled, bells rang.

"Magic," declared Miss Petko.

"I'm sorry to hear a member of the Laboratory family using that
brackish, medieval word," said Dr. Breed. "Every one of those exhibits
explains itself. They're designed so as not to be mystifying. They're
the very antithesis of magic."

"The very what of magic?"

"The exact opposite of magic."

"You couldn't prove it by me."

Dr. Breed looked just a little peeved. "Well," he said, "we don't want
 to mystify. At least give us credit for that."
=

US Stockmarket

Greenspan's Bubble

God is dead.

WHEN The Economist described America’s economy as a bubble in April 1998
and advised Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve’s chairman, to raise
interest rates to pop it, many people dismissed our warnings. Today, the
Dow is even higher than it was, the economy is enjoying robust growth
and the core rate of consumer-price inflation has fallen to a 33-year
low. So were we wrong? Sorry to be party-poopers, but America’s economy
still looks horribly bubble-like. A drop in share prices this week, as
central bankers and finance ministers gathered for the annual meetings
of the IMF and the World Bank, was a timely reminder that a collapse on
Wall Street remains the biggest threat to the world economy.
Not convinced? Consider the three most common criticisms of the idea
that there is a financial bubble. First, it is argued, higher share
prices are justified by improved fundamentals. In a month that has seen
the publication of three books with progressively ambitious titles—“Dow
36,000”, “Dow 40,000” and “Dow 100,000”—it seems churlish to quibble.
But the climb in share prices over the past year proves neither that the
market is correctly valued nor that the bubble is a figment of our
imagination. History shows that markets do overshoot and that bubbles
can persist for some time—indeed, that is their nature. It also shows
that the bigger a bubble gets, the greater the excesses it creates in
the economy—and the bigger the bang when it eventually pops.

It is, in truth, impossible to know whether share prices are overvalued
right now. But over the past year or so, evidence of a bubble has
mounted with every sign of excess elsewhere in the economy. Households
and firms are on a borrowing spree. The private sector’s financial
deficit has risen to an unprecedented 5% of GDP (in the previous 50
years it has never exceeded 1%). Money-supply growth is rapid. And
America’s current-account deficit is heading for a record 4% of GDP this
year. These are all classic symptoms of a bubble.

When assets become liabilities What about the second objection: that
even if shares are overvalued, why should the Fed worry? America’s
inflation rate is low, so there seems no case for higher interest rates.
But inflation has been held down by many one-off factors—such as a
strong dollar and, thanks to weak demand in the rest of the world, low
commodity and import prices—which may already be going into reverse. But
more important, central banks should not ignore another sort of
inflation: in the prices of assets, such as shares and property. Our
survey of the world economy in this week’s issue argues that many
central banks have focused too narrowly on consumer-price inflation.
Excessive rises in asset prices can be as dangerous as conventional
inflation. Sudden surges in wealth can, for example, encourage excessive
borrowing, which, when borrowers are forced to readjust their finances,
can cause a painful hard landing.

In its latest World Economic Outlook, published this week, the IMF
argues that conventional inflation can sometimes be a poor gauge of
whether an economy is overheating, and urges central banks to pay more
attention to other signs of imbalance, such as rising asset prices,
rapid credit growth, private-sector financial deficits and
current-account deficits. The IMF suggests that overheating in asset
markets may call for monetary tightening not only when it threatens an
increase in product-price inflation, but also when asset prices increase
to unsustainable levels that threaten to destabilise the economy.

This does not mean that the Fed should adopt a target for the Dow. But
it should take more account of the impact of asset prices on the
economy. Mr Greenspan has worried long and hard about share prices since
his “irrational exuberance” speech in December 1996, but he seems to
have concluded that there was nothing he could do. Why? Partly, perhaps,
because of the third popular criticism of our bubble thesis: 

[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Central Banks agree to gold sale ban

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan






-  SNETNEWS  Mailing List

What gives here, with this 180 degree reversal?  Gold is up $20 in

just a week's time, and still rising.  Looks like the short
sellers
suddenly can't get their hands on enough real gold instead of
paper.



So, last month the word was that gold was of no real value and
therefore the
central banks would sell their stocks. This month there seems to
have
been a
change of heart, and what a change, fifteen central European banks

agreeing
to a five year moratorium. Whoo boy, if I was one of those gold
mining
companies who sold futures contracts to lock in the depressed
price I
might
be a little angry if the price now decides to go up some more.
Cheers,
AGF



Central banks agree to gold sales ban
By Alan Beattie and Stephen Fidler in Washington

Fifteen European central banks including the Bank of England last
night
announced a surprise five-year moratorium on all new sales of gold
held
in
official reserves.

The move was organised by the G-10 group of central bankers,
chaired by
Eddie George, governor of the Bank of England, and was announced
by Wim
Duisenberg, European Central Bank president, who is attending the
annual
International Monetary Fund annual meeting in Washington.

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[CTRL] [1] The Birth of the City of Miami

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found1.htm
A HREF="http://www.historical-museum.org/history/found1.htm"The Birth of
Miami
/A-
The Birth of the City of Miami

by Larry Wiggins





Contents
1.Biscayne Bay Country
2.The Railroad to Miami
3.Incorporation
4.Endnotes






Just over one hundred years ago, in 1895, three stubborn visionaries
came together to create Miami and, in doing so, open all of
then-pristine South Florida to development. The Tuttle and Brickell
families possessed land. Henry M. Flagler owned a railroad and possessed
the capital to transform the land from a wilderness into a city. The
partnership between them was at times adversarial, the consequences
sometimes disappointing, but the resulting Magic City would, over the
next century, grow into something greater than they could have ever
imagined.

The Brickell family, consisting of William, his wife Mary, and eight
adult children ranging in age from 18 to 38, lived on the south bank of
the mouth of the Miami River where they operated a trading post and post
office. They arrived in 1871 from Cleveland and purchased a vast stretch
of land that extended from the banks of the river south to near today's
Coconut Grove. They also owned property on the north side of the New
River in today's Fort Lauderdale. (1)



Julia Tuttle




Julia Tuttle and her children, Harry and Fanny, lived across the river
from the Brickells. Tuttle, who came to Miami in 1891 after purchasing a
tract of 640 acres of land on the north bank of the Miami River, was
also from Cleveland. Tuttle's husband, Frederick, died in 1886, and she
decided to move to South Florida due to what was described as the
"delicate health" of her children. Tuttle had seen the area in 1875, at
the age of twenty-six, when she visited her father, Ephraim Sturtevant,
who homesteaded in the area of today's Miami Shores. Sturtevant had been
a friend of Brickell in Cleveland until a disagreement brought the
friendship to a halt. (2)

The Miami area, in the years leading up to the railroad's arrival, was
better known as "Biscayne Bay Country." The only overland transportation
to the area was by a hack (or stagecoach) line that ran from Lantana on
the southern end of Lake Worth to Lemon City on Biscayne Bay. The few
published accounts from that period describe the area as a wilderness
that held much promise. (3)

Lying five miles north of the Miami River, Lemon City could boast of
only fifteen buildings in 1893. However, many homesteaders had settled
on land up to five miles away from the core of the settlements. One of
these buildings was a new hotel that could accommodate twenty-five to
thirty guests. Two miles south were several people living in Buena
Vista. "Cocoanut Grove" (as it was spelled then) sat ... south of the
Miami River; it contained twenty-eight buildings "of a very neat and
tasteful character," two large stores doing an "immense business," and a
hotel run by Charles and Isabella Peacock. Cutler, eight miles south of
Cocoanut Grove, also contained a few settlers. (4)

But the jewel on Biscayne Bay was Miami. The site where the Miami River
emptied into the bay was described as the cream of the property in the
area. There was rich, heavy hammock growth, and to the south, on the
Brickell lands, a high, rocky bluff, which was characterized as "one of
the finest building sites in Florida." (5) The Tuttles lived in a large
home that had been in use when Fort Dallas occupied the spot at the time
of the Indian wars of the mid-nineteenth century. Julia Tuttle repaired
and converted the home into one of the show places in the area. (6) It
possessed a wide porch on the second story that provided a sweeping view
of the river and the bay. The bay itself was a favorite resort for
wealthy yachtsmen who came to the area in the winter for fishing and
cruising. (7)
Henry Flagler and His Railroad


Flagler's biographers debate just when he first planned to extend his
railroad south to Miami and eventually on to Key West. Perhaps no one
but Flagler ever will know, although correspondence related to this
matter dates to the early 1890s. However, the point in time when the
decision actually was made to begin extending the railroad south from
West Palm Beach can be ascertained as February 1895. (8)

Flagler, who earlier had achieved great wealth in partnership with John
D. Rockefeller in Standard Oil, had been developing the east coast of
Florida, beginning in St. Augustine in 1885, either through new
construction or through the purchase of existing hotels and railroads,
which were then upgraded. Every few years, Flagler extended his railroad
farther south.

Flagler became associated with the Florida Coast Line Canal 
Transportation Company (FCLCTC) in 1893 because of the advantages it
held for his railroad. (9) The canal company, 

Re: [CTRL] Zap the Bastards

1999-09-27 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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thats a case of reductio tot absudium. The equivalent counter argument is
that sinc punishment doesnt deter, then you should close all the prisons and
do away with the police force.

John

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 Sorry, but this begs for the old saw "Well, it certainly deters ONE
 person !"

Zap everybody - then we're ALL deterred.  Hey, it'll work.

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How about "remove the evil from among you?"

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] All Washed Up

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Keesee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The New York Times Magazine
September 26, 1999

THE WAY WE LIVE NOW
SALIENT FACTS: MONEY LAUNDERING

All Washed Up

The headlines say Russian crooks are laundering money through
American banks, but what exactly does that mean?

By TIMOTHY L. O'BRIEN

JUST HOW DO YOU LAUNDER MONEY?
By moving the proceeds of criminal activities — drug deals,
corporate embezzlement, political graft, arms trafficking and
the like — through a maze of banking and brokerage accounts in
order to disguise their origins. As recently as the 1980's,
prospective launderers had to pack bundles of cash onto planes
or send small amounts via courier. But now, using the electronic
financial networks that link much of the world, launderers in
Moscow, for example, can simply tap on a computer keyboard and
zap their digital money to New York. A few more keystrokes and
the money can be winging toward Antigua.

DOING THAT ENOUGH WILL THROW INVESTIGATORS OFF THE SCENT?
Yes, partly. Each additional transfer makes an investigation
more difficult. And often the money winds up in a seemingly
legitimate business. A furniture maker, for example, in cahoots
with a crooked buyer, might sell $20,000 worth of couches for
$200,000. The outrageously padded receipt from that transaction
makes the $180,000 of dirty money seem like profits from a
law-abiding enterprise.

CAN ANYONE GET IN ON THE ACTION?
Hard-core money laundering requires a lot of cash because each
time you move the money, banks charge a small fee, which adds
up. Don't feel shut out of the club, though. Anyone can fly to
the Bahamas with a pot of cash and open an account — XYZ Inc. —
with one of Nassau's many friendly tax shelters. Then get a
credit card issued in XYZ's name and use it to shop, eat and
party around the world — all on XYZ's tab. If anyone starts
trying to figure out why XYZ is being so generous with you, your
reps in the Bahamas can easily shut them out, unless there is
hard evidence of illicit activities.

HOW DOES ANYONE EVER GET CAUGHT?
With nearly $4 trillion — that's right, $4 trillion — passing
through global electronic banking networks each day, getting
caught usually requires bad luck. Big sums, like the billions
that investigators believe the Russians have washed through the
Bank of New York, are theoretically easier to trace, but when
there's that much money at stake, bank officials might play
dumb. And prosecuting even the strongest case usually requires
the cooperation of other countries, which often prefer to avoid
the intrusion and all the embarrassing headlines and
inconveniences. Moreover, there are only seven foreign crimes
that can trigger a money-laundering investigation in the United
States — bombings, robbery, murder, drug sales, bank fraud,
kidnapping and extortion. Other nefarious deeds — stock
manipulation, for example — don't yet meet the money-laundering
smell test.

THEN WHY LAUNDER THROUGH UNITED STATES BANKS?
The dollar is, indeed, almighty these days. Businesses and
governments around the globe have a strong preference for
trading in greenbacks, and United States banks have an
unsurpassed global reach. A bank in Moscow and a bank in Antigua
might be too suspicious of one another to do business together,
but if an American firm steps into the middle of the
transaction, everybody's happy to deal. So, paradoxically, it's
the rock-solid reputation of the dollar that exposes American
financial institutions, especially ones that are greedy or
unscrupulous, to humiliating spectacles like the current Bank of
New York investigation.

Copyright 1999 The New York Times Company

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[CTRL] Fwd: THE SCOOP: Buchanan, Seagal, Stallone

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan





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people receiving attachments now should be users of AOL, which apparently
converts longer articles directly into attachments -- one of many
inconveniences AOL software provides.


Thanks!

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THE SCOOP for September 27, 1999
___

Pat Buchanan, Steven Seagal, and Sylvester Stallone:
Why, Of The Three, Pat Is By Far The Scariest
© 1999 Bob Harris
http://www.bobharris.com
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* * = italics



In his new book, *A Republic, Not An Empire,* Pat Buchanan says that
Britain and France were wrong to go to war with Germany in 1939.  He also
says that Hitler was not a threat to the United States.

This is news?

Pat Buchanan says a lot of things.  All of this is on the record:

Pat has called Holocaust survivors' memories "group fantasies of
martyrdom."

Pat calls the U.S. Congress "Israeli-occupied territory," complaining that
foreign policy is dominated by Jews.

Pat complained recently that there are too many Jews and Asians at Ivy
League schools.

Pat wrote the section of Ronald Reagan's speech at Bitburg, the cemetery
in which Nazi SS troops were buried, calling the Nazi soldiers "victims
just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps."

Pat has written, along with those who deny the Holocaust ever happened,
that carbon monoxide from diesel engines could not have killed 850,000
Jews at Treblinka.

Pat has called for closing the Justice Department office that prosecutes
Nazi war criminals.

Pat says Hitler himself was "an individual of great courage" and
"extraordinary gifts," even "a soldier's soldier," in spite of his
genocidal habits.

Pat thinks illegal immigrants ought to be deported… except for John
Demjanjuk, the accused Nazi guard who admittedly entered America illegally
in 1952.  Pat has also argued against the deportation of Estonian war
criminal Karl Linnas and for restoring the U.S. citizenship of Nazi
scientist Arthur Rudolph.

In his autobiography, among Pat's heroes are the "soldier-patriots"
Francisco Franco and Augusto Pinochet.  Franco was the dictator of Spain.
Pinochet was the dictator of Chile.  Both overthrew democracies and
suppressed dissent with violence, using anti-communism as a rationale.

On the subject of democracy itself, Pat says that "like all idolatries,
democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process for a
love of country" and that "if the people are corrupt, the more democracy,
the worse the government."

Pat once said that sanctions against South Africa were "destroying the
[region's] one working economy… because it doesn't adopt an idiotic 'One
man, one vote' regimen."

Regarding apartheid, Pat even questioned that "white rule of a black
majority is inherently wrong.  Where did we get that idea?  The Founding
Fathers did not believe this."

Pat called Dr. Martin Luther King "one of the most divisive men in
contemporary history."  He also wrote a memo to Nixon saying that
integration would result in "perpetual friction, as the incapable are
placed consciously by government side by side with the capable."

On homosexuality, Pat has written "its rise almost always is accompanied,
as in the [pre-Hitler] Weimar Republic, with a decay of society."

Pat has also written that "homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on
Satanism and suicide" and that "AIDS is nature's retribution for violating
the laws of nature."

See?  Pat Buchanan says a lot of things.

Pat even told CNN last week that "there's not a trace of bigotry in my
heart."

The people who know Pat best think otherwise.

William Buckley, Pat's longtime friend and mentor, once wrote a
20,000-word essay concluding it was "impossible to defend Pat Buchanan
against the charge" of anti-Semitism.  William Safire, a colleague of
Pat's from both the Nixon White House and a lifetime of punditry, has
essentially concurred.

Alan Keyes has angrily confronted Buchanan staffers for appealing to
racism.

William Bennett has described Pat's politics as "flirting with fascism."

And now Sen. John McCain concludes that Pat Buchanan's views are somewhat
outside the mainstream.

This is news?

What should be news is how few other mainstream figures are willing to do
the same.

(Much of the above is collected from Fairness  Accuracy In Reporting's
large compendium of Pat Buchanan's scary whoppers at
http://www.fair.org/current/buchanan-bigot.html.)

___

As regular readers know, I live in West Hollywood and on the fringe of
bigtime show business.  Which is a lot like living next door to
Disneyland, although the 

[CTRL] A Different Twist on Spin

1999-09-27 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

From NewDawnMagazine
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/56b.htm


 The Public Relations of Modern Warfare
 Will the Real Nazis Please Stand Up!


 By SUSAN BRYCE

 For the last seven months we have been fed a diet of propaganda — the public
 relations of modern warfare — about Kosovo, that distant and foreign land, a
 province of Yugoslavia but now a ‘protectorate’ of the allied forces. A land
 where people — white people, doctors, lawyers and scientists — are being
 ‘ethnically cleansed’ by a ‘butchering modern day Hitler’. So far, the PR
 campaign (the spin as opposed to the facts) goes something like this….

 Ethnic cleansing practiced by Slobodan Milosevic is systematic and brutal, like
 the extermination of Jews in Nazi Germany. Representing the people of the free,
 democratic world, America has responded to this grave humanitarian tragedy in a
 timely and appropriate manner. With NATO, America has lead an effort to end the
 suffering and misery of ethnic Albanians, their torment and distress cannot be
 allowed to continue in the civilised 20th century! The air strikes, and the
 capitulation of President Milosevic, has proven that the standards and
 principles of the free world can triumph over evil. NATO can look proudly upon
 its achievements in Kosovo, where ‘Operation Joint Guardian’ will bring peace
 and a new humanism to the once war torn province. On the dawn of the 21st
 century, we will continue to work with our partners towards the goal of a world
 that is safe for all peoples, under the guiding hand of the United Nations…..

 In the final conflicts of the 20th century, public relations has become the
 politically correct term for propaganda, and while hundreds of noteworthy
 conflicts are being fought around the globe, NATO and US public relations
 experts have selectively focused our attention upon the ‘regime’ in Yugoslavia,
 and its leader, "that butchering modern day Hitler, Slobodan Milosevic."

 The tactic of comparing the enemies of the US to Hitler, is tried and true. The
 Bush administration used it on Saddam Hussein, and before that, they tied the
 Nazi fanatic with various Latin American ‘dictators’. During the 1989 invasion
 of Panama, American soldiers showed reporters Hitler’s portrait hanging in
 Manuel Noriega’s home — a US Army colonel later admitted psychological warfare
 experts had planted the Fuhrer’s portrait and a voodoo altar shown to TV
 cameras.

 The ghost of Adolf Hitler has been given a thorough airing in the Yugoslav
 crisis. The great irony is that those who condemn Milosevic as a modern day
 ‘Hitler,’ are themselves using the propaganda techniques that were refined and
 employed by the Nazis during World War Two.

 "Propaganda is a weapon, and a frightful one in the right hands", said Adolf
 Hitler, in Mein Kampf. Explaining how this ‘weapon’ could be employed to win the
 hearts and minds of the masses, Hitler said propaganda must be limited to a very
 few points and a slogan, which must be harped upon until the last member of the
 public understands the point being made.

 The war in Yugoslavia has been defined by two rallying cries — the slogan —
 ‘ethnic cleansing’, and the mantra, ‘humanitarian crisis’. In the mobilisation
 of public opinion behind the bombing of Yugoslavia, the Clinton administration
 endlessly repeated the phrase, ‘ethnic cleansing’ and NATO dwelled upon the fact
 that the only way to eliminate this "systematic, and methodical policy" within
 Kosovo, was by endless days of carpet bombing. The principal value of the phrase
 ‘ethnic cleansing’ is that it conjures up the image of Nazi Germany. The ‘ethnic
 cleansing’ in Kosovo, NATO argued, was the 1990s version of the Holocaust, while
 all of Serbia was compared to Nazi Germany.

 Humanitarian crisis, on the other hand, is something that the US, the UK and
 NATO helped to create by escalating a serious situation to catastrophic
 proportions. The bombings undermined, and maybe permanently destroyed, a
 promising democratic movement in Belgrade, which was the best hope of getting
 rid of Milosevic. Further, US/NATO actions have caused considerable disruption
 and danger in surrounding areas, including the Yugoslavia republic of Montenegro
 and also Macedonia.

 Up until the US/NATO bombing on March 24th, there had been, according to NATO,
 2000 people killed on all sides, and a couple of hundred thousand refugees —
 indeed, a humanitarian crisis, but also the type of crisis happening all over
 the world. It would be an understatement to say ethnic cleansing is a tragedy,
 but it is happening, on an equal to or greater extent, in other parts of the
 world as well as Kosovo. For example, the crisis in Kosovo is numerically
 identical to the US State Department figures last year which showed Colombia
 with 300,000 refugees and two or three thousand people killed.

 Hitler said that harping upon "very few points", would call the masses attention
 to certain facts, processes 

[CTRL] Fwd: USAF Trains Chinese Air Force - Visits Edwards AFB May 99

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan





Newly declassified documents from the Clinton administration
reveal that a civil airline modernization program for China was
actually a program to train and equip the People's Liberation
Army Air Force (PLAAF).

The new documents, forced from the Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA) by the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA),
are official USAF, Commerce and FAA reports on Chinese military
contacts.

According to the documents, PLAAF officers toured Edwards Air
Force Base in May 1999 for military purposes.  The PLAAF
officers were given training on USAF combat missions, including
"bombing and strafing" and "combat readiness."

In 1994, then Secretary of Defense William Perry began a "Joint
Defense" conversion project with Chinese General Ding Henggao.
General Ding was the commander of the Chinese Army Unit
"COSTIND" (Commission on Science, Technology and Industry for
National Defense).  One part of the U.S./China project was to
modernize the communist civil "Air Traffic Control" (ATC)
system.

The documented meetings shows that the Clinton administration
attempted to conceal the military background of the Chinese
representatives from everyone, including FAA officials.  In 1993,
a Chinese military delegation visited America.  Yet, according
the FAA, which sponsored the visit, the entire delegation was
civilian.

The 1993 FAA delegation list includes a "Mr. Kui Fulin" who
toured FAA Headquarters in Washington, Andrews AFB in Maryland,
and Boeing aircraft Corporation in Washington state.  "Mr. Kui
Fulin" was actually General Kui Fulin, Chinese Army Deputy Chief
of the General Staff.

The 1993 FAA list states "Mr. Li Yongtai" was the Commissioner
of the Air Traffic Control Commission of China.  According to
hand written notes taken by the FAA, Mr. Li Yongtai was actually
"Lt. General" Li Yongtai of the Chinese Air Force.

In fact, FAA officials who attending the meeting wrote
"military" next to the names of seven members of the 1993 "China
Air Traffic Control" delegation in an apparent effort to track
the Chinese Army officers.  Another example shows that a "Mr. Li
Zhongli" was part of a Chinese civilian delegation visit in 1997
to San Francisco that was sponsored by Stanford University.
"Mr. Li Zhongli" was actually Colonel Li Zhongli of the PLAAF.

In 1997, the PLAAF was given a demonstration in Sunnyvale
California by Ashtech, a maker of GPS (Global Positioning
Satellite) receivers.  The briefing for the PLAAF and Chinese
Navy officers states, "Ashtech produces a receiver that uses
both the U.S. GPS signals and the Russian GLONASS signals
resulting in significantly greater availability and integrity."

According to a 1997 Rand Corp. report on the Chinese Defense
Industry, "More accurate GPS systems would enhance the PLA's
ability to carry out attacks against Taiwan's military and
industrial facilities, potentially reducing the ability of the
Taiwanese military to defend itself against PRC coercive
diplomacy.  The use of GPS to enhance the accuracy of long-range
Chinese cruise missiles, coupled with long-range sensors, would
raise serious concerns for the U.S. Seventh Fleet in the
Pacific, and possibly circumscribe their ability to provide an
effective deterrent in a crisis over Taiwan."

In 1999, the Clinton administration offered the PLAAF the latest
in advanced "mobile radars", command and control systems, GPS
navigation, and "Surveillance Avionics" such as "Air to Air",
"Air to Ground" and "surface Area Movement" surveillance radars.

According to a U.S. Air Force May 1999 report, the PLAAF was
given details on USAF "Special Airspace" areas inside America
used for military training, research and national security
zones.  The details include Edwards Air Force base and a mapped
tour of the facility.  Edwards AFB is a test center for USAF,
and NASA research aircraft, including the space shuttle.

The newly released materials also include training manuals from
the USAF 334th Training Squadron in both english and Chinese.
The documents show Clinton administration officials proposed to
train PLAAF military air controllers.

The USAF documents show PLAAF officers were given a "simulated"
training mission.  The training included a "two ship formation
of F-16s from Luke AFB, Arizona" on a "bombing" and overflight
mission in a training area, code-named "Baghdad", northwest of
Prescott Arizona.  The simulated exercise also included
"in-flight refueling" with a tanker aircraft under control of a
USAF AWACs plane.

The USAF "AWACS" (airborne warning and control system) is a
flying radar plane manned by Air Force radar controllers.  The
Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft provided cover and control for
thousands of allied aircraft during the Gulf war and again
during the operation in Kosovo.  AWACs aircraft are expensive
and only a few Boeing E-3 Sentry aircraft have been exported to
Saudi Arabia and NATO.

The PLAAF is not currently equipped with an airborne radar
control plane nor an airborne refueling tanker 

Re: [CTRL] Waco post

1999-09-27 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/27/99 7:25:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And since when would these agencies be the proper ones to be dealing with
  child abuse in the first place!  I do not think that would fall under the
  jurisdiction of BATF and Delta Force even IF it had been occurring.
  Amelia


Of course you are correct.  It was merely further last minute attempts by the
government to throw suspicion off of them and onto the Davidians.  There
would be absolutely no justification for the BATF to be involved in cases of
child molestation, etc.  It was a propaganda device solely to throw the
accusing finger back pointing at the "nefarious" BD's, and off of the saintly
BATF who were just there "to save the children", after all.

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Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426

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l, Of course they have to be demonstrable..You have inserted  your
assumption into my statement..

Again study the MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiiff and the work of Jacques
Benveniste. at INSERM, in Paris.   At last count there were  500 confirming
experiments
Schiff is the summary of many years of repeated experimentation in France and
Italy. This is the demonstration of effectiveness you ask for.  Read it and
THEN give me your criticism.


At the moment you are in the "I dont want to hear about it school "

You are making an emphatic statement without looking at the evidence.  This
is the height of irrationaility., but quite common according to Kuhn THE
STRUCTURE OF SCIENTIFIC  REVOLUTION.

2.   Its  a matter of definition.Using your definition then  my 4-space
would be 5-space.  There is an entire  US AIR FORCE study based on this
confusion.  It depends how you handle space-time in the new dimension. Just
say extra-dimensional to avoid the problem.

3. Non-existant within YOUR  assumed definition..  This has nothing to do
with the physical dimension, this is extra-dimensional and you restririct
your thinking to the physical..

4. Read , study MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiff  Then get back on line with
your comments.   I will be most interested to hear your criticism.  IF there
is a flaw
it will be in the laboratory methodology.  Take a look maybe you can find it.
 But it is unlikely that dozens of researchers are repeating the same
mistake..


You have to PROVE them wrong.  You cannot ASSUME them to be wrong.

You will find a quick overview in SCIENCE CITATION  INDEX which has a list of
high dilution experiments made between 1985 and 1996

ANTONY SUTTON

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[CTRL] Poverty and Government Control

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html
A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City
Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A
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Laissez Faire City Times
September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38
Editor  Chief: Emile Zola

Poverty and Government Control

by Peter Topolewski


Like the tide, civil unrest comes and goes. Throughout Canada,
particularly in British Columbia and Ontario, unrest has definitely
come. The acronyms, some old and some new, have begun to play more
prominently on news broadcasts, neighborhood posters, and in the
newspapers: PAN (Poverty Action Network), MWAL (Marginalized Workers
Action League), OPAC (Ontario Poverty Action Committee) and so on.
According to the news and many of their own proclamations these groups
are fighting for what’s owed them: an adequate welfare check delivered
on time and without harassment, belittlement, or strings attached. In
fact, these groups are fighting just another battle against government
control. And unfortunately unless they make some drastic changes all
their efforts and angry fights look to be, in the long run, fruitless.

In the short term many anti-poverty groups aim to act as advocates for
individuals having problems with the local welfare office. Seeing their
strength in numbers, they protest and picket and if need be "occupy"
welfare offices until a check is issued. Some, such as PAN, have been
condemned by the working public and fellow anti-poverty groups for bold
tactics like taking over the then premier’s constituency office and
picketing outside his home. Whatever the specific tactic, and whether
condemned or not, often they achieve the goal. A meager check, however
reluctantly, is issued and the recipient is able to survive another
month with that smallest amount of security.

This battle of wills between the poor and the state is of course waged
in a larger context. In Canada the backdrop is a dedication to social
programs, made much of in theory and often referred to, but like much
scenery it is mostly taken for granted. Many Canadians, some would
suggest a majority, point with pride to a national system and history of
commitment to the poor. But when it comes to pinpointing the mechanism
and the cost of such a system, and more especially the contribution
required of each citizen to make that system work, most seem woefully
ignorant. The vaunted Canadian social programs quickly slip from the
taxpayers’ minds when the news informs them of another anti-poverty or
welfare protest. Instead tired cries of "get a job" more often ring out.


Rather than go on living in a state of contradiction, the proud
taxpayers would be better served by listening to the welfare protestors,
for in the details they would find the problems with their government
laid bare. In British Columbia welfare protestors are fighting
everything from the occasional 5-week check run (which forces recipients
to live for a week longer on the same amount of money) to humiliating
and de-humanizing psychological attacks, to the establishment of a
system of institutionalized poverty. The tactics are all directed at
increasing government control of poor peoples’ lives.

Keeping in mind that welfare is a social service to which the BC
government is publicly committed and of which it openly boasts, its
seemingly unreasonable policies and tactics for intimidating and
controlling the poor run the tried and true government gamut. Welfare
applicants face incessant and indiscriminate qualification changes. The
typical bureaucratic nightmare consists of constantly rotating
caseworkers who do not use or (for unspoken reasons) do not have
computers; producing application forms that inexplicably change, along
with program euphemisms; and turning incorrect spellings into delays
only a bureaucrat could understand. These are fairly run of the mill
tactics used to wear out and humiliate and frustrate people. The stakes
have been raised, however, and the protestors in BC have found new
voices, because of some radical changes the government have recently
instituted.
The Natural Diversion Rate


The current government in BC is called the New Democratic Party. It is
historically a socialist party, associated with unions,
environmentalists, and the poor. In a move meant to placate taxpayers
and businesses who watched them send the province into enormous debt,
the NDP government rolled out a plan to cut the size of the welfare
rolls. Common sense would have it that if there are fewer people on
welfare there must be more jobs. The NDP strategy, however, is simply to
have fewer people on welfare, jobs or not. Government estimates show
that of all the people who contact welfare offices, one third will not
become welfare recipients. This is due to a phenomenon called the
"natural diversion rate". The goal of the NDP is to increase the
diversion rate from 33 percent to 38 percent, for 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2

1999-09-27 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990927b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No Yetis were harmed to produce this bulletin. But we're working on it.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ 8-Track Heaven: http://www.8trackheaven.com/index2.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ET Issue Splits B.C. Sasquatch Conference Researchers. VANCOUVER (Reuters)
  For sasquatch fans mobbing Vancouver, the debate isn't over the reality of
  the big apelike beast but over its relation to UFOs. "It's a huge divide,"
  Stephen Harvey, organizer of the Int'l Sasquatch Symposium, said in desc-
  ribing the dispute between the cryptozoology and paranormal wings of
  sasquatch studies. http://www.canoe.ca/ReutersNews/LIFE-SASQUATCH.html

: Are Yetis ETs? Are you? Are you large, hairy, apelike? I wear US#18 shoes;
am I a Sasquatch? Am I an alien, like my dad? Does the Symposium want me??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SPACE: THE FINAL FRONTIER FOR TOURISM? Want to take an out-of-this-world
  trip? For a mere $90,000, you can buy a ticket for a rocket ride to space.
  One company already has 100 ticket holders waiting to reach for the stars.
  The technology that took NASA decades to develop is now being examined by
  tourism entrepreneurs who hope to launch an industry odyssey. Next step:
  hookers in orbit: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/26/space.tourism/

: Have you indulged in any recreational orbiting lately? Have you had free-
fall sex yet? Were you nauseous? Are you nauseous anyway? Are ya nauseating?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# PR Ploy Gone Awry - Hilton Not Planning Space Hotel. LOS ANGELES (Reuters)
  Forget about booking rooms at the Intergalactic Hilton for the time being.
  The giant hotel chain plans to remain earth bound for a bit longer. Hilton
  said it is not planning to build a luxury resort in outer space or on the
  moon as some media groups have reported -- but that its Earth-based hotels
  are taking reservations. Buzz that the hotel firm was planning an orbiting
  space resort 500 miles above the earth complete with artificial gravity 
  space walks for guests, was a public relations ploy run amok. Disinfor-
  mation: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990924/17/leisure-space-hilton

: Are you bummed? Do you seek revenge? Will tour-terrorists wage a bombing
campaign against Hilton until they build space hotels? Will they capitulate?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Canada's 'Avro' Flying Saucer - And German Disc Technology. It Came
  From Outer Toronto... Avro Canada is best remembered for the ill-fated
  Arrow, the supersonic jet fighter shelved by Ottawa in 1959. Now, newly-
  released CIA documents shed new light on another of the company's dreams
  -- a flying saucer. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/canadadisc_u.htm

: Have you designed/built/tested/sold any flying saucers lately? Do you use
alien/Nazi/metaphysical technologies? Is there a market for flying saucers?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The truth is in San Antonio for 300 UFO believers. They exchanged sighting
  tales at the weekend National UFO Conference. Attendee Janet Broderick saw
  her first flying saucer in 1995. "I didn't even blink and tears were
  streaming down my face," she says. "All of a sudden, it just disappeared."
  http://www.expressnews.com/pantheon/news-bus/metro/2601bufo0926nz.shtml

: Do UFOs make you cry? Did a UFO ever break your heart? Do they fuck  run?
Will they still respect you in the morning? Do they share your pain? How??

# Air jammer shortage strains Navy - extended deployments stretch
  Pentagon in some combat specialties, especially electronic warfare:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561338645-f6e
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Comparison of a Teleological Model With a Quantum Collapse Model of Psi.
  Compare "two previously described mathematical psi models... At an early
  stage of psi research, one could hope to understand psi by a straightfor-
  ward extension of physics." http://www.visitations.com/mindnet/MN203.HTM

: Do you have a good explanation for psi? Do you exploit psi? Do you use psi
to accumulate wealth  power, have good sex, control the masses, run things?

# Teen gunman could be free by age 42 - Kip Kinkel can kill again:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561317915-079
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Hospital will return children's hearts. (BBC) A children's hospital in
  Birmingham UK will offer to return the hearts of 1,500 dead babies whose
  organs were to be used for medical research. Gourmet chefs devastated:

@ Links: British Organ Donor Society: http://www.argonet.co.uk/body/
@ British Transplantation Society: http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bts/

: Do you have the heart of a young child? Do you keep it in a jar on your
desk? Did you take the sheep brain I used to have in a jar on my desk? Why?

# Caskets taken by floods retrieved - more still underwater:
  

[CTRL] Sen. John McCain detractors page and links

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/mccain.htm
A HREF="http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/mccain.htm"Untitled Normal
Page/A
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"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her
father." Sen. John McCain

I became interested in this creep when I saw he was behind the Senate
effort to massively increase the expansion of airports (Senate Bill 82)
in the U.S. (at taxpayer expense of course) with no concern or study (as
required by federal law) of the increased environmental impacts on
Americans. He likes to portray himself as a "independent" Republican who
is for campaign finance reform, but in reality he rakes in the corporate
PAC money better than most of congresscreeps. The media LOVES this
creep, which says a lot about the media. Bill Mulcahy
http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/newsletter28.htm

Here are some stories revealing the true nature and duplicity of Sen.
John "Insane" McCain:

From the "Dark side" of John McCain http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm

Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of
Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in
contributions.

In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes,
and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas.
McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at
$350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it
a "sweetheart deal."

Lott Lashes McCain Finances
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/lott990702.html
Federal Election Campaign http://www.tray.com/fecinfo/efpres.html-ssi
Itemized contributions 1999-2000
http://www.tray.com/fecinfo/mcca_pres.htm
Contributor Employer Break-Out
http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/efpres6.exe?2000P80002801E
Contributor Occupation Break-Out
http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/efpres6.exe?2000P80002801O I'm sure the
"homemakers" are lobbyists wives.
McCain's Environmental Scorecard:
http://scorecard.lcv.org/member.cfm?id=213
http://scorecard.lcv.org/committee.cfm?committee=000COM
McCain's Gravy: His Corporate Buddies
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1999/011499/wonk1.html
So how did the money break down in the final
analysis? Just to give you an idea of McCain's
fund-raising prowess, here's a list of the companies
who gave his Senate campaign big bucks, via their
political action committees and/or employees:
More than $20,000: U.S. West, ATT, BellSouth
Corp., Bell Atlantic.
Between $15,000-$19,999: AMR Corp. (Alaska Air's
owner), Bank One Corp., News Corp., Phelps Dodge
Corp., Boeing Co., Ameritech Corp. (a Baby Bell), CSX
Corp. (a railroad).
Between $10,000-$14,999: Bank of America, Federal
Express Corp., Cyprus Amax Minerals Co., Hensley 
Co., Union Pacific Corp., National Association of Home
Builders, Ford Motor Co., Lockheed Martin, National
Cable Television Association, Motorola Inc., Del Webb
Corp., Allied Pilots Association, American Institute of
CPAs, Burlington Northern Inc., MCI WorldCom, SBC
Communications, Marshall  Ilsley Corp., Sprint
Corp., Americans for Free International Trade,
Arizona Public Service Co., Cellular Telecom Industry
Association, Citigroup Inc., Marine Engineers Union,
National Association of Underwriters, Newport News
Shipbuilding, TRW Inc. and United Parcel Service.
As long as McCain chairs the Senate Commerce
Committee, companies like these will give him money
with the hope of currying favor. Yes, some of the
companies listed above are headquartered in Arizona,
but for the record, 65 percent of the money McCain
raised in 1998 came from out of state.
And 26 percent of it came from, as Campaigns and
Elections puts it, "those dastardly denizens of political
corruption" -- PACs.
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
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Or, it could have been over the 100 per day list limit, in which case
it simply postpones posting.

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[CTRL] Gunzin Britland

1999-09-27 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Via www.worldtribune.com/index-so2-text.html


 The true effect of Britain's gun control laws


 By David Morgan
 SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM


 Monday, September 27, 1999

 No country is more often referred to as a model for gun control than is Britain.
 Somehow the popular media has fostered this quaint vision of a civil society
 with few guns floating around. This image has quite an appeal to U. S. gun
 control advocates, the basis being that fewer guns make for a more civilized
 society. However, a close analysis shows that there is a good deal more to it
 than that.

 However, Britain is not totally disarmed. Actually there are some two million
 legal shotguns in Britain and several hundred thousand handguns as well as some
 two million firearms that are illegally owned.

 In order to understand gun laws in Britain it is necessary to look at their
 society in terms of some of their other laws. A fundamental axiom in Britain
 that one writer often remembers a British woman saying to an American is that
 "We're subjects. You're citizens." This is no minor difference.

 According to David Kopel in his book The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy
 "In the American system, the individual citizen is the 'starting point and
 motivational power of the political process.' Government is delegated to the
 people, and it remains subordinate to the people. Indeed, the Constitution and
 the Bill of Rights were intended to keep the government inferior to the people
 in terms of physical force. As James Madison's friend Tench Coxe explained, the
 federal government could never successfully tyrannize America, for 'The
 unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state
 government, but where I trust in God will ever remain, in the hands of the
 American people.'"

 By contrast, the parliament in Britain is the supreme entity. A clearly
 expressed act of Parliament cannot be questioned on constitutional grounds by
 any British court of law. A "majority" in Parliament means virtually the control
 of the entire government. It is a democracy by consent and not by delegation. In
 actuality the system in Britain does not mean legislative supremacy. It means
 executive supremacy. The leader of the dominant party in Parliament faces no
 effective opposition or checks and balances.

 It is noteworthy that American criminal cases are prosecuted in the name of "the
 people," while British cases are prosecuted in the name of the monarch. One
 nation is the United States while the other is the United Kingdom. According to
 Kopel "What America calls 'domestic tranquility' Britain calls 'the Queen's
 Peace. The different phrasing reflects the British assumption that the
 government is not simply an arbiter between individuals, but an independent
 power, sufficient unto itself with the authority to take whatever steps it needs
 to protect its own interests in peace. As a result many rights that are
 fundamental in America are less than secure in Britain."

 The "rights of Englishmen" that developed from the 1689 English Bill of Rights
 were an important basis for the American Bill of Rights. These American rights,
 and not only the right to bear arms, have "flourished in America and withered in
 Britain."

 For instance, the grand jury in Britain was abolished in 1933. Civil jury trials
 have been abolished for all cases except libel. Criminal jury trials are rare.
 America has the Miranda rules, while in Britain police are allowed to continue
 to interrogate suspects who have asked that the interrogation stop, and the
 police are even allowed to bar defense attorneys from seeing suspects under
 interrogation for limited periods. Britain allows the use of testimony derived
 from leads developed in a coerced confession. Even the standard of proof beyond
 a reasonable doubt has been eroded. Suspected terrorists now carry the burden of
 proving their innocence. In addition wiretaps do not need judicial approval. The
 British Criminal Justice Act of 1967 abolished the necessity for unanimous jury
 verdicts in criminal trials and eliminated the requirement for a full hearing of
 evidence at committal hearings.

 Freedoms guaranteed Americans in the First Amendment that uphold freedom of
 speech and the right to assemble are also subject to qualifications from the
 British Parliament. The government frequently bans books on national security.
 British libel laws tend to favor those who bring suit against the free press.
 And, in addition, in Britain the government may apply for a prior restraint of
 speech, asking that the court censor a newspaper without the newspaper even
 having notice or the opportunity to present a counter argument.

 The Official Secrets Act makes the unauthorized receipt of information from any
 governmental agency illegal and even allows the government to forbid publication
 of any "secret" it pleases. The U.S. government carries the burden of proving
 that a 

[CTRL] Jam Logs

1999-09-27 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Via www.igc.org


 Massive Lewis  Clark Logging Planned




 Originally posted in IGC member conference: ef.general
 Date: September 16, 1999
 Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 /* Written 2:56 PM  Sep 16, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in ef.general */
 /* -- "ALERT:Massive Lewis+Clark logging" -- */

 ACTION ALERT:  ON EVE OF LEWIS AND CLARK BICENTENNIAL, CLEARWATER NATIONAL
 FOREST PLANS TO LOG OVER 8,000 ACRES NEAR ONLY REMAINING ROADLESS PORTION
 OF LEWIS AND CLARK TRAIL

 September, 1999:   Idaho's Clearwater National Forest (CNF) just released a plan
 to log 75 million board-feet on 8,280 acres, within and adjacent to the North
 Lochsa Slope Roadless Area.  This area contains the only remaining roadless
 portion of the historic Lewis and Clark trail as well as the proposed Lewis and
 Clark Wilderness Area.  Lewis and Clark journeyed across the country in 1805, so
 the logging would be just in time for the Lewis and Clark bicentennial
 celebrations happening around the region. Comments are accepted on the North
 Lochsa Face Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) until October 8, 1999.
 Let the CNF know that such a massive logging project is inappropriate anytime on
 the fragile soils of the Clearwater National Forest, but especially during the
 bicentennial.

 The North Lochsa Face FEIS describes plans to:
 *Commercially log 8,280 acres of land, an estimated 75 million board-feet.
 The methods used will be approximately 50% skyline hauling, 25% tractor
 hauling, and 25% helicopter logging.
 *Precommercially thin an additional 1,290 acres.
 *Log an additional 2,250 acres under the guise of "off-site species
 conversion," which is clearcutting of ponderosa pine planted in the 1930's
 which was originally obtained from an off-site location.
 *Unspecified amounts of noxious weed control including manual pulling,
 herbicide spraying, and the release of biocontrol agents (predatory
 insects).
 *600 acres of streamside tree plantings along Pete King and Fish Creeks.
 *Allows motorized use in all current areas.

 Send comments to:  Cynthia Lane, District Ranger, Lochsa Ranger District,
 Rt. 1, Box 398, Kooskia ID  83539, by October 8, 1999.

 Suggested comment points include:

 *This sale is massive in size.  It is nearly as large as all Cove/Mallard
 sales combined, which was until recently the largest timber sale in the
 history of Region 1.It proposes to log nearly 8,000 acres of forest.
 The Forest Service is supposed to be in a more enlightened era when the
 health of watersheds comes first.  If this is so, why are they proposing
 this abomination along the Lochsa Wild and Scenic River and scenic Highway
 12 corridor, near Lewis and Clark's trail, during the Lewis and Clark
 bicentennial years?

 *The forest the sale would destroy is one of the final refuges in the
 entire country for wilderness-dependent carnivores such as wolverine,
 fisher, and possibly lynx.  There have been 4 sightings of wolverine in the
 project area!  If the Forest Service values these rare species, it will not
 obliterate their habitat.

 *Numerous other threatened, endangered, and sensitive species reside in the
 project area, and the extensive logging will destroy thousands of acres of their
 prime habitat.  The species include bald eagle, black-backed woodpecker, Coeur
 d'Alene salamander, fisher, flammulated owl, northern goshawk, and more.

 *The proposed logging is on the same type of steep slopes that failed so
 dramatically in the landslides of 1995-1996.  Of course, these slopes will
 carry similar landslide potential.

 *Fish Creek is known as one of the most important steelhead spawning
 grounds in the entire state of Idaho.  Most of the Fish Creek watershed is
 proposed Wilderness, except for a small portion of its headwaters.  The
 Forest Service plans to log 460 acres in this portion!  The logging (mostly
 clearcuts) will cause sedimentation in Fish Creek which will damage the spawning
 grounds.

 *The Fish Creek roadless area is also famed for its elk herds.  Hunters
 come from hours away to hunt the elk there.  Elk rely on a delicate balance
 between forage ground and forest, and this sale will disrupt that.

 *Releasing nonnative insects for biocontrol is very risky.  Many times this has
 occurred, the insects switch host plants and end up eating native vegetation,
 disrupting natural predator/prey relationships.  This plan to release unnamed
 biocontrol insects in or adjacent to proposed wilderness is dangerous and is
 contrary to the Wilderness Act.

 FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT:

 Friends of the Clearwater
 PO Box 9241
 Moscow, ID  83843
 (208) 882-9755
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 OR

 Idaho Conservation League, North Idaho Office
 PO Box 9783
 Moscow, ID  83843
 (208) 882-1010
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


AER
~~~
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 

Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve

1999-09-27 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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i'm not into homeopathy and tried one of their medicines for hay fever to
try and avoid that dopey feeling but found it didnt work.
However I remember in the economist(about 5yrs ago) they reported controlled
experiments carried out at glasgow, that did produce positive results with
some homeopathic medicines.

As to water having some sort of memory, in chemical plants, one of the
tecqniques to reduce scaling in heat exchangers is to pass it through a
strong magnetic field.

Also the major drug companies have a large financial incentives to discover
expensive, patentable cures above natural inexpensive cures.

Having said all that i'd trust normal alipathic medicines to cure
sicknesses.
(Although I wouldnt always trust doctors with those medicines)

John

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 You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science
 technologies if you think in the conventional framework.

Ah, so we have to stop demanding that they be demonstrably effective?

 You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space

We already live in 4-space - it's called space-time.

 Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several
 reasons especially Avogadros limit...past a certain point of
 dilution not one molecule of the physical substance remains.

Yes, it's hard for non-existant stuff to work.

 But if you posit another dimension it does explain the phenomenon.

Posit whatever you will, but demonstrate 1) the existence of what
you've posited and 2) the validity of your claims.

But the theoretical basis of homeopathy is irrelevant if it doesn't
work.  If it worked, it would be exploited commercially on a mass-
industrial basis.  Major drug firms would squeeze every possible
dollar out of it.  As it is, homeopathy is well-marketed to the
credulous, and works about as well as any placebo can be expected
to.  But if SKF Beecham and CibaGeigy et al can't find effective
uses for homeopathic preparations, why should I trust a clerk at
a GNC assuring me that their green goo is good?

Like I said, next time you get cholera, see a homeopath.

 See MEMORY OF WATER  page 26 for the second curve, which is
 Hahnemanns 'spirit essense"

Ah, "spirit essense" - to claim it, and to establish it, are rather
different endeavors. Demonstrate the existence of 'spirits', then
demonstrate that water has 'spirit', then show that water has a
"spirit essense" and 'memory', then produce independent replication
of these experiments, and I'll start to take such claims seriously.

 If you think only in conventional scientific terms you will give
 yourslf a headache, get frustrated and never understand..

Homeopathy is based on a doctrine.  Doctrines suck.  Science is
based on the rigorous testing of ideas - doctrines tend to fade
away under such scrutiny.  Science WILL give you a headache, but
it works.  Doctrines will soothe your mind, but won't lead you
to fruitful discoveries.  Bother.

 Loosen up your mind.

Tighten up your standards.

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[CTRL] Krauthammer: Buchanan shows what a hypocrite he really is

1999-09-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Charles Krauthammer on Pat Buchanan: "So off to dance with Ross Perot - and
to lunch with Lenora Fulani, self-described (former?) 'militant black
nationalist ... Marxist and social therapist,' now a power in the Reform
Party. Buchanan's association with Fulani, once head of the 'black-led,
woman-led, multiracial and pro-gay' New Alliance Party, is beyond parody.
Fulani is so far out on the loony left that she once called Michael Dukakis
a 'white supremacist candidate.' (She ought to read Pat's columns.)"
=
Philadelphia Inquirer, September 27, 1999
(http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/99/Sep/27/opinion/KRAUT27.htm)
In seeking Reform Party backing, Buchanan shows what a hypocrite he really
is
The line on Pat Buchanan has always been this: He might be slightly cracked,
but at least he is principled: He knows what he believes and says it without
fear or equivocation.
After Buchanan's performance auditioning for the Reform Party presidential
nomination, however, it is clear that his reputation for principle is an
elaborate fraud.
For example: In a column last November headlined "The Dispossession Of
Christian Americans," Buchanan is agitated about figures showing that half
of Harvard students are Asian or Jewish. He decries "a Harvard student body
where non-Jewish whites - 75 percent of the U.S. population - get just 25
percent of the slots. Talk about underrepresentation! Now we know who really
gets the shaft at Harvard - white Christians."
This is, of course, cracked. (The implication that Asians and Jews have had
50 percent of the spots set aside for them to the exclusion of white ethnics
is nutty.) But when he thunders that "a liberal elite is salving its social
conscience by robbing America's white middle class of its birthright, and
handing it over to minorities," he at least seems full of passionate
intensity.
So when Gloria Borger asked him about this on Face the Nation - "You wrote
in that column that they [Ivy League colleges] should 'look more like
America,' as you put it, by reserving 75 percent of their slots for, quote,
'non-Jewish whites' " - we might have expected a rigorous defense.
Instead, Buchanan first tried denial. "Oh, I don't think I wrote that."
When Borger shot back, "You did write that. I'm quoting," Buchanan took a
dive, protesting now that he'd been speaking "tongue in cheek."
Tongue in cheek? Buchanan wrote not one but two columns denouncing the Ivy
League for "denying its first-class tickets to the upper crust of society"
to "Euro-Americans." There is not a hint of irony in either piece. Moreover,
the second (Jan. 1, 1999) refers explicitly to the fuss kicked up by the
first (Nov. 27, 1998): "When I suggested that it might be time for
Euro-Americans to demand affirmative action, the usual suspects answered
with the usual invective." The second column is the time to reveal it was
all in jest, no?
No. If anything, Buchanan laid it on thicker in the follow-up, declaring
that "This social and moral injustice needs airing."  And, by God, airing
injustice is what Pat does. Right? Right. Until he's called on it on
national TV. Then he goes impish and squishy and claims that he is an
ironist.
Pat Buchanan is a lot of things. But ironist he is not.
He is, for starters, a both-sides-of-the-mouth politician. His technique is
to convey raw prejudice to his followers, who understand his code, then go
on respectable media, smile and pretend he never meant it. His trademark is
the wink. The wink is interpreted by his friends in mainstream media as "I'm
fooling the mob." It is understood by the mob as "I'm fooling the
pointy-heads."
An ironist he is not. But a hypocrite he is. He savages the Republican Party
for being insufficiently committed to the unborn, then gets ready to defect
to a party that is entirely and publicly indifferent to abortion - and, to
boot, to the other great social issues Buchanan claims are so near his
bosom, such as gay rights.
Howard Phillips' Constitution Party shares not just Buchanan's foreign and
economic policies but his views on abortion, religion and the rest. Why then
is Buchanan courting the Reform Party? Because the Constitution Party is not
up for $13 million in free federal money.
So off to dance with Ross Perot - and to lunch with Lenora Fulani,
self-described (former?) "militant black nationalist ... Marxist and social
therapist," now a power in the Reform Party. Buchanan's association with
Fulani, once head of the "black-led, woman-led, multiracial and pro-gay" New
Alliance Party, is beyond parody. Fulani is so far out on the loony left
that she once called Michael Dukakis a "white supremacist candidate." (She
ought to read Pat's columns.)
In April 1987, she went to Libya to join a rally marking the first
anniversary of the U.S. bombing of Libya. That bombing was the work of
Ronald Reagan, Buchanan's hero and boss. Pat was White House director of
communications at the time of the attack. Fulani 

[CTRL] The cataclysm *is* imminent...

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: The cataclysm *is* imminent...
From: Mixmaster Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]
Date: Sun, 26 September 1999 05:04 PM EDT
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   Praised be YaoHu'SHua and YaoHu'WaH,
   for out of the Jews salvation is...

---

  [updated 2451447.6]

**
Nostradamus' "seven month" is most definitely Ethanim[Tishri],
1999 AD, and for the "bearded star" to be seen "in the north
not far from Cancer" forces the viewer's reference to be well-
SOUTH of the ecliptic, not north of it, see? Those who've been
studying related *propheties* would do well to understand this.
I've seen this clearly the K.O.T. is gonna wreak bloody havoc.
**


   Av 5759
molad: Tue, Jul 13, 1999 AD @ 04:37:38 AM JST
 (Julian date 2451372.60947)
  S   M   T   W   T   F   S
  1   2   3   4
  5   6   7   8   9  10  11
 12  13  14  15  16  17  18
 19  20  21  22  23  24  25
 26  27  28  29* 30
   *total solar eclipse is molad of Elul; this marks Jesus'
   2001st tropical-solar birthday, tribulation ensues; the
   demise of the divided fourth empire of "iron/miry clay"
   is imminent! Note also that the C/Lee fragment spotted
   during this solar eclipse was recognized by only a few,
   precisely as expected[ref. Michel de Nostradamus C3Q34]
   This "monstre" will be seen clearly within *one* week--
   counting from today, which is Sunday, 26 September 1999.

 Elul 5759
molad: Wed, Aug 11, 1999 AD @ 01:06:01 PM JST
 (Julian date 2451401.96251)
  S   M   T   W   T   F   S
  1*  2
  3   4   5   6   7   8   9
 10  11  12  13  14  15  16
 17  18  19  20  21  22  23
 24  25  26  27  28  29
   *Jesus' 2001st Hebrew Calendar Birthday,
  Aztec Calendar `13 Cane', Day of Destiny,
 next month Ethanim[Tishri] commences second
half of Jesus' 7-year Ministry--Enter the Lion!
 These 3 1/2 years of tribulation are shortened for
the elect's sake[Gk. eklektos, {mutually}"selected"]
thus no one, not any man, neither any angel, not even
Jesus knows the day nor the hour, but the Father ONLY.
   This [7th]month is undoubtedly Nostradamus' "sept mois",
   and *this* Gregorian[Roman] year 1999 Anno Domini is the
   correct year, so *this* is it: Prepare for YHWH's Wrath!

--- HEBREW/JEWISH CIVIL CALENDAR YEAR 5760 ---
(385/"perfect" leap year, Type 11, 4-7-P; notably is identical
 type of calendar year as Jesus' crucifixion, 3791[30-31 AD])

 Tishri 5760
molad: Thu, Sep 09, 1999 AD @ 11:44:58 PM JST
 (Julian date 2451431.40623)
  S   M   T   W   T   F   S
  1*
  2   3   4   5   6   7   8
  9  10 11  12  13+ 14  15
 16  17  18  19  20  21  22
 23  24  25  26  27  28  29
  30
  *Rosh ha-Shannah, Saturday, September 11th, 1999;
 marks the beginning of globally-catastrophic events
 foretold in many scriptures and warnings; Jesus was
baptised---commencing His 7-year Ministry---1972 years
ago, Rosh ha-Shanah, Sat, Sept 20, 27 AD[1 Tishri 3788];
   Day of Atonement, Sept 20, 1999 AD(!);
 +autumnal equinox, Sept 23 [C2Q41];
Feast of Tabernacles[15-21 Ethanim];
Last Great Day, October 2, 1999 AD;
Nosty's X72 by or before Oct 10th!
   This "king of terror" falls from
   Sagittarius, the heavenly archer,
   is "the stone in the tree"[C2Q70];
   1300m impact in the South Pacific
   w/Venus in Leo very near Regulus;
   NONE will have prepared, not one.

Cheshvan 5760
molad: Sat, Oct 09, 1999 AD @ 01:18:57 PM JST
 (Julian date 2451460.97149)
  S   M   T   W   T   F   S
  1   2   3   4   5   6
  7   8   9  10  11  12  13
 14  15  16  17  18  19  20
 21* 22  23  24  25  26  27
 28  29  30
 *the last day of October; within this month, by or
 before the year 2002, a great shift in the earth's
 motion, a +20de geographical pole shift will occur;
 I have 'seen' this shift occurring in October 2000.
 I have also seen the K.O.T. preceding it, look out!

   

[CTRL] Globalization and Financial Privacy

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html
A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City
Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A
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Laissez Faire City Times
September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38
Editor  Chief: Emile Zola

Globalization and Financial Privacy

a review by Lauren Bain


Richard W. Rahn, The End of Money and the Struggle for Financial Privacy
, Discovery Institute, Seattle, 1999, 223 pp.

Thomas L. Friedman, The Lexus and the Olive Tree: Understanding
Globalization, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, New York, 1999, 394 pp.





Thomas Friedman’s warmhearted tales and devotion to metaphor narrate the
steps to a kinder, gentler global village; but, in fact, his
storytelling outclasses his economics. How are we to experience his
subjective world–one rife with shallow distinctions between free markets
and regulated ones, one in which statist Newt Gingrich could be a
free-market icon, one in which we are implored to create world markets
and prosperity without perturbing any quaint cultural relics? Friedman
acknowledges that globalization is inevitable; further, he tells us that
markets are the motive force urging it on at terrible speed. But he also
says that governments can and must place conditions on these same
forces–or, he declares in another logical switchback—no globalization.

Is the Electronic Herd careening out of control, impelling a dynamic
world market to redefine life every moment according to subtle dictates
of market whims—or can we rein it in, regulate it, assign America to
take point, even stop it altogether if Friedman’s sister doesn’t like
her Jersey beefsteak tomatoes without cracks and bumps? He knows his
Golden Straitjacket will fit every producer nation eventually with a bit
of tailoring, but does he really see no difference between the rule of
law as it is worn in the United States and as it hangs on Singapore?

Friedman loves his planet, and his reader wants to love him for that.
But it’s difficult when he transmutes the Invisible Hand to an unseen
fist driving a herd of

electronic reindeer at warpspeed. He is a Lexus person, thrilled at a
global marketplace, and an olive tree person, in love with his community
that he maintains no chat room could replace. No, but how does he
suppose neighbors mobilize each other when the time comes to petition
city hall for that new road? E-mail, of course: the ultimate grassroots
weapon.

Friedman sees globalization creating a more open society—something of
which he evidently approves—but he frets over the lack of privacy that
instantaneous electronic commerce portends. Here he demonstrates a lack
of knowledge as well as faith in reasoning men’s urges to enhance their
privacy. Encryption evidently hasn’t settled into his lexicon.

If Friedman’s road sign is "GLOBALIZATION AHEAD: ASSUME CRASH
POSITIONS," Richard Rahn’s is "WELCOME TO PRIVACY PLANET. EARN WHAT YOU
KEEP, AND KEEP WHAT YOU EARN." The sun shines on Rahn’s world. The baht
no longer fakes out the dollar; currency is digitalized and, in fact, is
just another product of a free, private-sector market that is unamenable
to government regulation. Prosperity has so subsumed the globe that
governments have little to do, as borders become less likely to be
threatened, and the government has become a very small part of people’s
lives.

Dr. Rahn loves freedom and Mr. Friedman values safety. But both
economists sound the clarion call that globalization is brooking no
interference. While Friedman hopes that globalization will result in
American-style democratization of finance, technology and information
without disrupting cultural elements he believes are necessary for
wholesome community, Rahn reasons that governments won’t even get to
throw a punch before private currencies, encrypted commerce, and global
competition for citizenship itself declare a knock-out in the next round
between the public and private sectors.

Rahn sees government as intrusive—unless shrunk to fit the requirements
of citizens who desire privacy and liberty, while Friedman sees the
American government in particular as a benign breakwater restraining the
ruthless flux of capitalism. Friedman insists on installing safety nets
beneath a high-wire act already in progress, while Rahn realizes that
such nets would only burden liberty, privacy, and the relentless motion
underway--and anyway, commerce would simply go underground. Rahn is a
capitalist: he trusts the urge to prosper. Friedman seemingly regards
capitalism as a magnificent wild animal–wonderful, majestic, and
inherently dangerous.

Echoing Al Gore’s "we are on an irreversible trend toward democracy, but
that could change," Friedman suggests conflicting propositions–that
globalization is inexorable, but also that if it threatens to drown our
olive trees, we can stop it if we want 

[CTRL] The Preview

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:556577"The Preview
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Subject: The Preview
From: James Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 September 1999 03:24 AM EDT
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





 Associated Press headline:

   Indonesia Ends Contoversial Law


 The headline lies.

 AP reports:

Indonesia's government...SUSPENDED the implementa-
tion of a...law that would have given the military
power to curb civil liberties.


 The Indonesian people compelled this FOREIGN government
 to cave, for the time being.

 AP reports:

...500 riot police stormed the Atma Jaya Catholic
University [in Jakarta] before dawn, firing volleys
of tear gas and rubber bullets at students who had
taken over the campus.


 Jakarta citizens from all walks of life joined in.

 The report continues:

By early afternoon, the clashes were moving slowly
down Jakarta's main boulevard...toward the center
of the city.


 Only then did the FOREIGN government cave, for the time
 being.

 Back at the university:

...police [had] smashed the windows of buildings and
cars and arrested five students.


 AP quotes a business student:

"They are not police,

   they are pirates and murderers."



 Coming

   --by way of Waco and Indonesia--

   to your home town



  SOONEST !














 

 The AP story's datelined 0843 hours EDT 24 September
 1999 Jakarta, Indonesia.  I capitalized the word "sus-
 pended" in the first quote, for emphasis.

 AP says the business student's "Alex Leonardo, 25."
 If he's an American, Clinton's State Department can
 yank his passport.

 This critical essay was composed 25 September 1999.
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] Uncle Tom's Cell (Slavery in Amerika)

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:556540"Uncle Tom's Cell (Slavery in
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Subject: Uncle Tom's Cell (Slavery in Amerika)
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Uncle Tom's Cell: Prison labor gives a market face to an old idea --
slavery

by Josh Levin
Perspective Magazine
February 1999

It is morning, and you wake in a cement cell to the sound of a
nightstick on bars. You proceed to join a sea of primarily black faces
in an assembly line as white guards with shotguns and tasers stroll
between the ranks, punishing inefficient laborers. With wages as low as
11 cents an hour and no benefits or vacations, the prisoners must
choose between labor and longer sentences, since "good time" policies
shave days from the captivity period for days worked. This is not a
description of a sweatshop in a developing country, but of a fascistic
marriage between private enterprise and state that bears a frightening
resemblance to slavery -- prison labor.

Prison labor has a rich history in the United States. After the end of
slavery, the "convict leasing" program was instituted in the South.
Along with Black Codes, this program functioned to return African
Americans to the plantations. Land owners would bid to receive complete
control over the lives and labor of prisoners, of whom only a
negligible number were white. African American laborers were whipped so
severely that survivors would be crippled for life. Women were flogged,
hung by their wrists, and placed in solitary confinement. Before long,
journalists, community members, ministers, women's groups, and union
organizers rallied against this oppressive system. By the 1930s, every
state had abolished convict leasing. Unfortunately, leasing was
replaced by state-run chain-gangs, a despicable form of slavery and
torture. Again, stories of teenagers being beaten to death or dying in
solitary "sweat boxes" created public outrage, and chain gangs were
abolished in the '50s.

Yet in 1979, Congress began a process of deregulation that has once
again allowed private corporations to exploit this captive labor market
for profit. Although prison-made goods were initially only manufactured
for state agencies, they now flow into all sectors of the economy,
competing with outside companies and jobs. Corporations ranging from
J.C. Penny and Victoria's Secret to IBM and Toys R Us utilize prison
labor to cut costs and increase profit margins. In fact, the next time
you call TWA to make airline reservations, you may be speaking to one
of 300 youth offenders working as receptionists in a Los Angeles
prison.

The U.S. prison population has grown by 300 percent since 1980, making
us by far the world's leader in imprisoning our own population, greatly
surpassing our nearest competitors, South Africa and the former USSR.
Enough people are incarcerated every two days to fill the New Orleans
Superdome. Most of these prisoners are drug-related offenders, and
programs focusing on rehabilitation and drug treatment are more cost-
effective in the long run. Prison/hospitals, halfway houses, and other
experimental community programs cost less to run and have much lower
rates of recidivism. Yet prison labor is replacing educational and
other programs because it requires less funding within the prison while
keeping inmates busy. The goal of incarceration is becoming more and
more to reap profits, and a member of the South Carolina Division of
Correctional Industries states that "rehabilitation is considered to be
a byproduct."

Work programs have been protected under the guise of "job training."
Yet when an offender enters a California prison, he is surveyed for
over 50 skills and placed according to his ability -- with no intent to
train him in anything new. In a poll of prison industry leaders, 39
percent said that profit orientation was the most important issue of
prison labor, while only 12 percent said rehabilitation. Escod
Industries, one of IBM's main suppliers of electronic cables, employs
250 inmates at Evans Correctional Facility in South Carolina. The plant
manager, Bert Christy, "believes many inmate workers are over-qualified
for the jobs they hold," which would not seem to be advancing the
skills of the prisoners. Furthermore, one must question the extent to
which these skills manage to keep people out of prison, if the
offenders are entering the facilities already trained.

Escod Industries moved to South Carolina after abandoning plans to open
operations in Mexico because the wages of the American prisoners
undercut those of de-unionized Mexican sweatshop workers. This
incentive was also combined with the $250,000 "equipment subsidy" given
to Escod by the state and the offer of industrial space at below-market
rent. Jostens, Inc. has 40 women in Leah Correctional Facility sewing
and packaging graduation gowns. The work is 

[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis September 27, 1999

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan





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Global Intelligence Update
Weekly Analysis September 27, 1999


There's a New Deputy in Town: Australia's New Strategy


Summary:

Australian Prime Minister John Howard announced a new foreign
policy last week, dubbed the Howard Doctrine. It asserts
Australia's more active role as "deputy" to the United States,
assuming the United States is hiring, and that Australia's
application for the job will be accepted over other worthy
candidates. The Howard Doctrine represents a dramatic shift in
Australia's foreign policy following economic collapse. It is a
critical piece of the regional strategic response to the new
economic reality.


Analysis:

Last week, in the wake of Australian troops landing in East Timor,
Australian Prime Minister John Howard announced a new strategic
doctrine for Australia. Quickly dubbed the "Howard Doctrine," the
new strategy included two core elements. First, Australia would
assume a more active role in Asian security matters, including
further interventions as needed. Second, Australia would undertake
this role as "deputy" to the United States. As an enabling element,
Howard promised to increase Australian defense spending from its
current level of about $10 billion a year (less than 2 percent of
GDP). The Thai and Malaysian governments immediately condemned the
move. The opposition Labor Party also attacked the Howard Doctrine.

John Howard has committed Australia to a mission that no Asian
country applauds and some condemn. He has done so without building
the domestic coalition necessary for such a transformation in
Australian policy. Finally, he chose to commit himself to a policy
for which Australia does not have sufficient armed forces, for
which money has not been appropriated, and which will require a
force build-up of several years following fund allocation. Given
all of this, it would have seemed reasonable for Howard to watch
his Timorese adventure unfold before proclaiming a dramatic new
shift in Australian policy. He didn't wait. Therefore, it is
important to try to get a sense of the perceptions of events in the
region that might have caused Howard to take this dramatic step.

Let's begin by considering how dramatically the East and Southeast
Asian scene has changed in a little over two years. As 1997 dawned,
Asia was headed toward what the conventional media were calling
"The Asian Century." Fantastic growth rates, in place for a
generation, appeared to be driving an Asian juggernaut destined to
be the perpetual global growth center. In the midst of this
fantastic growth rate, all political disputes appeared trivial. All
political issues could be handled with judicious allocation of a
never ending flow of investment funds. In foreign policy, apart
from the marginal issue of North Korea, there were no substantial
disagreements, save over trade and tariff matters. China and the
United States agreed that financial cooperation trumped political
and strategic disputes and led the way to a highly de-politicized
region. Even the most fractious countries, like Indonesia, were
held together by rising financial tides, which submerged political
disputes in complex and profitable financial arrangements.

Starting in the summer of 1997, it all fell apart. As the region's
economy deteriorated, the economic balm of vast rivers of
investment and credit dried up. Complex domestic arrangements
disappeared. Strategic issues, submerged under the flood of money,
emerged again. Suddenly, the status of Taiwan was no longer a
trivial matter to China. China-U.S. relations deteriorated
dramatically; espionage and invasions became more important than
investment and trade. Suddenly Asia became a completely different
place.

There was a golden age in Australian security policy that
essentially lasted from the end of the Vietnam War (1975) to the
collapse of the Asian economy (1997). During this period of Asian
prosperity and stability, Australia (and its sidekick New Zealand)
was in geographical heaven, finding itself more secure than at any
time since before World War I. Australia first shared the
insecurity of the British empire. The defeat of Great Britain would
have opened up Australia to domination by other powers like Germany
or Japan. This compelled Australia to participate in Great
Britain's wars.

Following World War 

[CTRL] Cocktails and Cookies

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html
A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City
Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A
-
Laissez Faire City Times
September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38
Editor  Chief: Emile Zola

Cocktails and Cookies

by Richard S. Ehrlich


JAKARTA, Indonesia -- Armed Forces Chief General Wiranto, under fire for
not stopping the killings in East Timor, unveiled a State Security Bill
which he described as a “cookie,” but thousands of street rioters
scorched it with Molotov cocktails for a second day Friday (September
24).

Demonstrators held signs which said, “Security Bill, A Legal Way for a
Military Coup” and warned it would grant Wiranto, and his armed forces,
sweeping powers to revoke civil liberties.

More than 5,000 student-led protestors hurled firebombs, rocks and
bottles at thousands of police and troops Thursday and Friday to
denounce the bill.

Helmeted security forces armed with gas masks and US-made M-16 assault
rifles, fired tear gas and rubber bullets, while beating protestors with
wooden clubs.

Protestors said the bill destroys fragile democratic “reforms,” which
resulted after students helped topple dictator Suharto in May 1998.

“The state security bill -- in which a state of emergency can be
declared -- gives the military the power to ban protests, take over
telecommunications systems, private property and mail services, while
ignoring all prevailing laws,” the Jakarta Post reported Friday.

Wiranto, who is also defense minister, ignored critics when he proudly
introduced the bill by saying, “It’s the same with the offer of a
cookie, but before tasting it...you already say, ‘No.’

“You reject the cookie, when in fact...it’s a very delicious one.”
Tossing Cookies


Rioters, fed up with such rhetoric, destroyed highway dividers and
landscaping on Jakarta’s main Sudirman Street in front of Parliament,
and other infrastructure near universities, in the largest protests
since Suharto’s downfall.

The immediate result of the government’s security bill, passed by
Parliament Thursday, was insecurity in four other riot-hit cities as
well, including Yogyakarta, Surabaya, Semarang and Medan.

Indonesia’s battered rupiah currency plunged further on news of the
riots, coupled with concern over continued instability in East Timor.

Wiranto claimed the bill “is not designed for the military’s interests,
nor in anticipation of the upcoming general session” of Parliament.

The four-star general was referring to Parliament’s sessions in October
and November when squabbling political parties are supposed to agree on
granting independence for East Timor.

Parliament is also, at that time, scheduled to vote on who will be
Indonesia’s next president.

Wiranto has been tipped to be the next vice-president, which worries
critics who dub him, “Suharto’s protoge.”

Wiranto may be nominated to be vice-president under President
Bacharuddin J. Habibie, or under Habibie’s popular rival, Megawati
Sukarnoputri.

Habibie’s ruling Golkar party chairman, Akbar Tandjung, said, “The
teamwork of Habibie and Wiranto is quite good.

“To be sure, Wiranto is Golkar’s candidate for vice-president,” Tandjung
added, apparently leaving open the question of who to nominate as
president.

Critics, meanwhhile, said passage of the bill should have waited until a
new government forms, because the current administration is headed by
the unelected, widely despised Habibie who was installed by Suharto.

Habibie is expected to sign the bill into law within days.

During the riots, many of the security forces displayed new equipment,
including new camoflauge uniforms, padded body armor and hooded gas
masks which covered their heads and shoulders.

Only their M-16 assault rifles and hand-held, full-body plexiglass
sheilds showed signs of wear.

In some confrontations, they absorbed Molotov cocktails, rocks and other
debris thrown by students, while remaining in formation to block any
advances, and firing occasional volleys of tear gas and rubber bullets.

During a lengthy standoff near Parliament, a couple of Marines wearing
red berets appeared, and consulted with the students, who temporarily
dispersed.
Students Respect the Marines


“The students respect the Marines,” one rioter told The Laissez Faire
City Times as flames from a Molotov cocktail burned in front of a nearby
pharmacy.

The Marines played a pivotal role in supporting students against
Suharto.

Other students, wearing water-soaked handkerchiefs over their mouths to
neutralize tear gas, played cat and mouse with security forces by
hurling Molotov cocktails and rocks, and then scattering in panic when
troops stormed forward.

Some protesters spilled into a lavish tourism exhibition near
Parliament, causing well-dressed foreign and Indonesian officials to
leave their booths and gape in horror from inside the airconditioned
building at the 

Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread Ric Carter

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going??

 The Illuminati are collecting all the world's available gold
 for delivery -- in 2003 -- to the Anunnaki Serpent masters
 on Nibiru, the 3400 year eliptical orbit '12th planet'.

 But you knew that.

Yes, it's obvious.  And Andy Groves uses his Bilderberger links
to get just enough industrial gold to keep the processors rolling
off the production line.  In fact, ALL electronics components
makers are part of that network.  ALL electronics devices are
used for mind-control.  We are being prepared.

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[CTRL] (Fwd) NEW WHITE HOUSE SPIN ON HILLARY HOUSE DEAL A SHAM

1999-09-27 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

Simple:  Just *say* you're not going to do something then wait to do it when
you think everyone has forgotten.

--- Forwarded Message Follows ---

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 27, 1999
Contact: Joe Giganti
(202) 646-5172


NEW WHITE HOUSE SPIN ON HILLARY HOUSE DEAL A SHAM

Judicial Watch To File Suit to Ensure That Mortgage On Clinton Mansion
Does Not Go Through


(Washington, September 27, 1999) Late last week, The White House leaked
"news" that the Clintons were considering whether to seek a "conventional"
loan to purchase their desired $1.7 million dollar mansion in New York.
While the Clintons, given
 their professed financial distress, would not qualify for such a loan in
 any event, as usual The White House failed to tell the whole story behind
 the Clintons' effective admission that their current proposed mortgage is
 not legal.

On Thursday, September 16, 1999, Judicial Watch, which is a shareholder in
the banks (Deutsche Bank and Bankers Trust) which currently plan to loan
the Clintons the money to purchase the mansion thanks to a $1.35 million
guarantee by influence
 peddler Terry McAuliffe, sent a demand letter explaining the illegality
 of the transaction and threatening to file a derivative suit for
 injunctive relief if the deal were not abandoned. See
 www.judicialwatch.org. However, rather than abandon the deal,
Deutsche Bank and Bankers Trust denounced Judicial Watch as pursuing a
"political agenda." (Letter posted on www.judicialwatch.org with this
press release).

This is consistent with recent press reports suggesting that the Clintons
will keep the current financial arrangement with Deutsche
 Bank and Bankers Trust if a better deal cannot be had.

Having not complied with Judicial Watch's demand letter, and realizing
that the non-partisan public interest government watchdog
 does not make idle threats, it would appear that the latest spin coming
 out of The White House was intended to induce Judicial
Watch not to file suit. However, Judicial Watch will file suit, since
based on the Clintons' professed finances, they cannot get a conventional
house loan and the recent press reports were just a sham.

"Given their claimed lack of resources, the Clintons can always rent an
apartment if they want to live in New York, not spend other
 peoples' money in an illegal transaction obviously meant to buy some new
 favor from them," stated Judicial Watch Chairman
Larry Klayman.




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[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Pressure to rate the Net mounts, from NYT/CyberTimes

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan





[I rather think the Starr Report should be rated indecent, and thus
off-limits to library patrons. And cnn.com reports of atrocities in East
Timor? Definitely violent and off-limits for teenagers. Oh, wait, a news
exemption to the ratings? I'm sure Playboy will love that. Sigh. --Declan]


Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 11:30:30 -0400
To: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Barry Steinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cybertimes on International Ratings

Declan,

The International movement to rate the net grows. Attached is a piece from
Cyber Times.

Barry



http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/09/cyber/articles/25ratings.html


September 25, 1999


 Internet Rating System Plans to Globalize
 By PAMELA MENDELS
 In response to the increasing globalization of the
Internet,
 a content rating and filtering system that was
originally
 developed primarily for the United States will be
expanded
 to encompass a more global audience.


  Sometime next year, the Internet Content Rating
Association
 is scheduled to launch a re-vamped version of a major
 ratings and filtering system called RSACi in the hope
that
 it can appeal to parents and Web publishers worldwide.
 "RSACi was an American response to an American concern,"
 said Stephen C. Balkam, executive director of the
Internet
 Content Rating Association, a four-month old
organization
 that has offices in the United States and Britain. "We
need
 to internationalize the system and governing structure."
 RSACi was launched in 1996 largely in response to
federal
 government attempts in the United States to regulate
 indecent content online. The system was an offshoot
of an
[...]

 The idea behind a re-vamped RSACi is to develop a rating
 system that considers the sensibilities of parents
around
 the world, not just American parents, as the Internet
begins
 to attract a bigger global audience. For example, Balkam
 said that Europeans as a whole have less concern about
 online nudity and more concern about violence than their
 American counterparts. In addition, he said, Europeans
 harbor a stronger consumer resistance to the idea of
 personal information being bought or sold, and so
might want
 ratings to reflect Web sites' privacy protections for
 children.
 The possibility of an international rating system has
been
 in the spotlight lately, because of an ambitious but
 controversial proposal released at a conference in
Munich
 earlier this month.
 The document, drawn up by the Bertelsmann Foundation, a
 German policy research group, recommends a number of
ways in
 which the Internet industry could police itself to help
 parents prevent their children from accessing
potentially
 harmful material online. Among them is the creation of
a new
 international system whereby Web publishers would rate
their
 own content and parents could then choose either to
block or
 allow access to material based on how the ratings mesh
with
 their values.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1

1999-09-27 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990927a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Few inhabited planets were impacted during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Fashion Crime Bingo:
  http://www-personal.umd.umich.edu/~jasoncsl/fishstick/bingo.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# New Virus Detected; Is it from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center? With
  New Virus, Experts Suspect More Died of Encephalitis. Having found they've
  most likely been looking for the wrong virus, public health officials are
  investigating whether as many as eight more people than previously
  reported have died in New York City's mysterious encephalitis outbreak.
  http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/regional/092799encephalitis.html

# New York Fatal Mosquito-Borne Illness May Be African Virus. The mosquito-
  borne killer disease may not be St. Louis encephalitis, as experts have
  thought, but rather a similar disease that has never been diagnosed in
  the Western Hemisphere. http://sightings.com/health3/africanvirus_h.htm

: Have you bred/spread a new biowar virus lately? Do you prefer a virus that
attacks neural tissue? Are you optimizing its delivery systems? For what??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# MASS MARKETING: Over the course of several weeks in 1963 some 900 folks in
  the villages of Mbale  Kigezi, Uganda were seized en masse by a maddening
  compulsion to run wildly thru the streets clutching chickens and screaming
  until they fell from exhaustion. Scientists diagnosed it as mass hysteria.

: Have you ever run around clutching chickens  screaming? Were you insane,
hysterical, mind-controlled, or being initiated into a college fraternity?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Prion Diseases Spreading Through Grains? SANDPOINT, ID - Though "mad cow"
  disease may have spread to UK cattle that ate sheep brains, the infectious
  crystalline agent responsible, called a prion, did not likely originate
  there. A new theory on transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs)
  suggests the sheep became initially contaminated by eating fungal infected
  grains. Deadly TSEs foreshadow a "biological apocalypse" that will make
  "AIDS seem like an appetizer at a cataclysmic picnic."
  http://www.sightings.com/health3/prion_h.htm

: What's your favorite prion? Have you developed/tested/spread any prions
lately? Are you working on a "mad chicken disease"? Do you control KFC??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Morse Code Translator. Security is big these days - with all these expert
  systems  1024 bit crypto blahblah, one tends to be wary. Enter the one 
  only Morse code translator! Use this page to translate to/from Morse Code.
  You can listen to the translation too! Now when the Boss demands adherence
  to special security codes, you can rest assured that your code will make
  the final cut! http://www.soton.ac.uk/~scp93ch/refer/morseform.html

@ Hushmail. Got the pun in the name? Here is a beta version of a new free
  email facility. Two interesting features are 1024 bit encryption (far
  better than other free email facilities), and the ability to attach
  files to your hushmail messages. http://www.hushmail.com/

: Do you trust free security, free email, free Morse code? What email/codes
do your Reptilioid/Republican masters use? Are they free? Are "free email"
services actually run by biz or govt intel groups bent on stealing y'r data?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Space-O-Rama:

# Cosmologists Stretch to Explain Birth of Galaxies. A model of galaxy
  formation that shows bursts of star-forming activity about 10 billion
  years ago is igniting debate among cosmologists about how galaxies
  began. http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/starburst_990921.html

: How did your galaxy begin? How will it end? With a bang or a whimper? Why?

# The Milky Way Will Never Be the Same. Astronomers say the Milky Way - our
  home galaxy - is destined to be involved in a disastrous intergalactic
  collision. http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/big_banger_990921.html

: Do you love big crashes? Do you stop and gawk? What's your favorite crash?

# Star-Eating Mass Found Near Center of Milky Way. A huge X-ray hiccup
  has given away a hidden black hole or neutron star, presumably as it
  finished making a meal of matter from a nearby star. Yummy yummy.
  http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/saggitarii_burst_990920.html

: Have you eaten any stars lately? Did you spread marmalade on them? Tasty?

# Forecast Calls for Exciting Meteor Shower. Scientists are beginning to
  understand a November meteor shower called the Leonids. To know Leo is
  to love Leo: http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/leonids.html

: Do you prefer meteor showers, meteor baths, meteor bubble-baths? Fizzly??

# Migrating Planets. Did the solar system always look the way it does now?
  New evidence indicates that the outer 

Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones

1999-09-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Every time I see this story turning up, it traces back NO FURTHER than Allan
Eckert's novel *The HAB Theory*. IMHO, it classifies as an Internet myth at
this point. The novel is indeed "interesting fiction;" it was my first
contact with pole shift hypotheses. However, Eckert offers no supporting
evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to
consider the book to be pure science fiction.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:13 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] The Dropa Stones

  -Caveat Lector-

 Interesting archeology information, if true.  Interesting fiction if not.
 Take a look and judge for yourself.
 This is forwarded from a newsgroup.


 Subject: The Dropa Stones
 From: Reverend Chupacabra A
 HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
 Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT
 Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified,
 expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what?
snip

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[CTRL] Fwd: Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars

1999-09-27 Thread Carl Amedio

In a message dated 9/27/99 11:57:30 AM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes:

 Subj:Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars
 Date:  9/27/99 11:57:30 AM Central Daylight Time
 From:  AOL News
 BCC:   Ahab42

 Europe: Dollar Up; Gold Soars

 .c The Associated Press

  LONDON (AP) - Gold prices soared today following an international agreement
to limit sales from government and other official stocks. The U.S. dollar was
mostly higher and surged against the Japanese yen in Europe.

 Gold finished at $279.90 in London, up from $269.00 Friday. At midmorning,
London gold dealers fixed a recommended price of $281.70.

 In Zurich, gold traded at $280.93, up from $268.35.

 Gold rose $16.95 in Hong Kong to $283.00.

 Monday's prices were the highest since May 7, when Britain announced it
planned to sell 125 metric tons of its gold reserves by the end of next year.

 Gold rallied after the International Monetary Fund's policy-making Interim
Committee, meeting in Washington over the weekend, approved a plan to revalue
up to 14 million ounces of its gold reserves in transactions with central
banks to partly finance a Third World debt initiative.

 The IMF had dropped plans to sell gold on the open market under pressure
from gold-mining countries and U.S. lawmakers.

 In a further effort to bolster gold prices, central bank officials from 15
nations pledged Sunday they would hold future gold sales to limits already
announced.

 In the currency markets, the euro was quoted at $1.0440 in late European
trading, down from $1.0462 Friday. Later, in midday trading in New York, the
euro traded at $1.0446.

 Other dollar rates in Europe, compared with late Friday, included 106.19
Japanese yen, up from 104.08; 1.5340 Swiss francs, up from 1.5296; 1.4694
Canadian dollars, down from 1.4732.

 The British pound was quoted at $1.6478, up from $1.6424.

 In midday trading in New York, the dollar bought 106.14 yen, and the pound
was worth $1.6460.

 The U.S. currency rallied against the yen early on short-covering after a
stalled selloff overnight, but the future direction depends on the Bank of
Japan's policy, analysts said. Short-covering occurs when traders, who
earlier had bet on a decline in the dollar, buy dollars to either take
profits on the decline or limit their losses as the dollar rises.

 Currencies of the 11 countries participating in the euro are no longer
traded separately, though they remain in use. Based on euro rates, the dollar
is worth 1.8743 German marks, up from 1.8687; 6.2855 French francs, up from
6.2681; 2.1120 Dutch guilders, up from 2.1060; 1,855.55 Italian lire, up from
1,850.59.

 Silver closed in London at $5.36 bid per troy ounce, up from $5.27.

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sales from government and other official stocks. The U.S. dollar was mostly higher and 
surged against the Japanese yen in Europe.

Gold finished at $279.90 in London, up from $269.00 Friday. At midmorning, London gold 
dealers fixed a recommended price of $281.70.

In Zurich, gold traded at $280.93, up from $268.35.

Gold rose $16.95 in Hong Kong to $283.00.

Monday's prices were the highest since May 7, when Britain announced it planned to 
sell 125 metric tons of its gold reserves by the end of next year.

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meeting in Washington over the weekend, approved a plan to revalue up to 14 million 
ounces of its gold reserves in transactions with central banks to partly finance a 
Third World debt initiative.

The IMF had dropped plans to sell gold on the open market under pressure from 
gold-mining countries and U.S. lawmakers.

In a further effort to bolster gold prices, central bank officials from 15 nations 
pledged Sunday they would hold future gold sales to limits already announced.

In the currency markets, the euro was quoted at $1.0440 in late European trading, down 
from $1.0462 Friday. Later, in midday trading in New York, the euro traded at $1.0446.

Other dollar rates in Europe, compared with late Friday, included 106.19 Japanese yen, 
up from 104.08; 1.5340 Swiss francs, up from 1.5296; 1.4694 Canadian dollars, down 
from 1.4732.

The British pound was 

[CTRL] [6] The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence,  International Fascism
Henrik Kruger
Jerry Meldon, Translator
South End Press©1980
Box 68 Astor Station
Boston, MA 02123
ISBN 0-89608-0319-5
240pps - one edition - out-of-print
Orginally published in Danish
Smukke Serge og Heroien
Bogan 1976
--[6]--
Six
NIGHTMARE OF THE AGENTS:
THE BEN BARKA AFFAIR

The October 1965 kidnaping of the Moroccan exile leader Mehdi Ben Barka was
the most controversial and daring affair involving Christian David. Of the
twentieth century's most consequential political melodramas, the Ben Barka
case ranks with the murder of John F. Kennedy. It remains an unsolved puzzle,
with unexploded fireworks that still haunt spooks on both sides of the
Atlantic.

There is a semiofficial scenario, but it is full of holes. To make the story
hold water many of the involved have been killed, threatened, or ruined. In
1980, fifteen years after Ben Barka's disappearance, that story remains as
dubious and full of holes as ever.

The current version goes something like this:

The Moroccan King Hassan II, Interior Minister General Mohammed Oufkir, and
his security chief, Colonel Ahmed Dlimi, conspired with members of the French
government and its intelligence arm, the SDECE, to lure Ben Barka to Paris,
where he would be turned over to Moroccan espionage agents.

The abduction was executed as planned on October 29. Ben Barka was taken to a
house in the Paris suburb, Fontenay-le-Vicomte. The following evening General
Oufkir, Colonel Dlimi, and Moroccan intelligence agents arrived. Soon
thereafter Ben Barka was tortured and killed by Oufkir himself, and buried by
hired crooks.

Implicated were the Moroccan government, certain leading French politicians,
the French intelligence agency SDECE, and gangsters connected to it; no one
else, according to the official version, was involved.

De Gaulle believed, with good reason, that he had been hoodwinked by some of
his own men who had been in cahoots with the CIA, which he blamed for the
entire affair. Amazingly, though, the CIA came out smelling like a rose. The
only ones to be disgraced in the ensuing trial were the Moroccans and French
intelligence, their underworld allies having long since been compromised..
Not coincidentally, the trial was punctuated by interruptions, postponements,
the liquidation of two star witnesses, the disappearance of a number of the
implicated, and the deaths of three French attorneys for the Ben Barka family.

Oufkir and members of his security staff were sentenced in absentia to life
in prison. Several Frenchmen, among them police and intelligence agents,
receiived-up to eight years. SDECE chief Paul Jacquier was sacked. Prime
Minister Georges Pompidou, Interior Minister Roger Frey, and de Gaulle's
son-in-law-, member of Parliament Pierre Lemarchand, were all blasted by de
Gaulle.

To the stunned populace that was as far as the scandal went, and it was far
enough. But what really happened? Why did so many struggle so desperately to
keep the lid on? So far the succession of theories and rumors have all lacked
credibility. However, in recent years additional aspects of the Ben Barka
affair have come to light through scattered details in many books and
articles. Alone, these facts seem insignificant. Together they form a lead
that can be followed.

I emphasize strongly that the following scenario is my own. My linking of the
many facts is hypothetical. The following, therefore, is not necessarily "the
truth about the Ben Barka affair" nor an exhaustive account of what occurred,
because this is not a book about the Ben Barka affair. Rather, I try to show
that we still haven't been told the truth, that the CIA was involved, and
that the Ben Barka affair has to this day left some unfinished business in
the netherworld of spooks. Furthermore, this will clarify one reason for
Christian David's anxieties in jail.

Mehidi Ben Barka wa's forty-four years old when he disappeared. From an early
age he had been a zealous champion of Moroccan independence and of a
Socialist future for his country. For a period in the late forties he was the
mathematics instructor of Hassan, son of Mohammed V, who became the present
King Hassan II. In 1952, with Morocco still under French rule, Ben Barka was
banished to the desert, and there he devoted much of his time to study.

In 1956 Morocco gained its independence. Three years later Ben Barka founded
the Union Nationale des Forces Populaire (UNFP). In 1961 Hassan was crowned
and appointed himself the prime minister.

In the 1963 National Assembly election Ben Barka's party, the UNFP, won
twenty-eight seats, while another reformist party, Istiqlal, gained
forty-one. The two were expected to form a coalition, which was a threat to
the king's ruling party, FDIC, which itself claimed sixty-nine seats.

In July 1963, two months after the election, security chief Oufkir disclosed
a "plot" against the king. A sworn devotee of 

[CTRL] [3] The Arizona Project

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Arizona Project
Michael Wendland©1977
ISBN 0-8362-0728-9
Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc.
6700 Squibb Rd.
Misson Kansas 66202
276 pps. - first edition - out-of-print
New revised edition - available amazon.com
Paperback, 304pp.
ISBN: 0945165021
Blue Sky Press, Incorporated
June 1988
--[3]--


-3-

IRE and Punishment

News reporters make enemies.. It comes with the territory. They step on toes,
malign reputations and, occasionally, write stories so sensational that
people go to jail. Investigative reporters, columnists and radio and
television commentators make more enemies than general assignment reporters.
Revenge is a constant occupational hazard and not a few journalists have been
martyred for their work.

Elijah P. Lovejoy was one of the first to die in the line of duty. Owner of
the Alton (Illinois) Observer, Lovejoy was the prototype of the crusading
editor. He began the small paper in July 1836, and soon afterwards lashed out
against slavery on his editorial page. A mob of townsfolk reacted violently.
They ransacked Lovejoy's office and tossed his printing press into the
Mississippi. Antislavery news stories incited two similar incidents, and each
time the Observer's press was destroyed. On September 20, 1837, a fourth
printing press arrived. A crowd gathered on Alton's main street as Lovejoy
and a group of thirty supporters supervised unloading and installation. The
crowd became ugly by the night of the following day and demanded that Lovejoy
leave town. He refused, vowing to continue his support for abolition. The
mayor urged him to surrender the press but he stood firm. The mob finally
stormed the Observer and burned it down. Lovejoy was shot in the chest and
died. His murderer was never discovered.

The martyrology of American journalism includes the following names:

Wesley L. Robertson, editor of the Gallatin (Missouri) Democrat, shot in 1919
by a local politician for linking him to bootleggers.

Don Mellet, editor of the Canton (Ohio) Daily News, shot in 1926 by a Canton
policeman for exposing vice payoffs to city police.

Gerald Buckley, radio commentator on Detroit's WTK, shot in 1930 by three
unknown assailants within hours after broadcasting his promise to reveal
startling facts on the city's organized crime and corruption on future
programs,

W. H. "Bill" Mason, radio commentator and sports editor of the Alice (Texas)
Echo, shot in 1949 by a deputy sheriff after announcing on the air that the
deputy's tavern doubled as a whorehouse.

Emilio Milian, the forty-five-year-old news director of Miami's
Spanish-language radio station WQBA, was luckier than Don Bolles. Six weeks
before the Phoenix incident Milian lost his legs in a similar car bombing. A
Cuban himself, he had delivered a number of scathing editorials denouncing a
rash of shootings and bombings that had terrorized southeast Florida's large
Cuban population that spring. Miami police believe that whoever booby-trapped
his car was retaliating for those radio editorials. Despite fifty thousand
dollars in reward money, the case was never solved.

Until recent years, reporters had the public image of used car salesmen.
Portrayed in movies as arrogant and compromising types with questionable
ethics, they were perceived as scoop-hungry sensationalists, never willing to
let the facts stand in the way of a good story. But then, a number of things
happened. A grubby little war that took fifty thousand Americans in Indochina
was probably the catalyst. Almost overnight the press started catching our
government telling lies. The first lies -were about the war and our conduct
of it. There was the My Lai massacre and the Pentagon Papers. Later, the lies
seemed to spread everywhere. In 1972, there was a third-rate burglary whose
cover-up was initially exposed in print; this was followed by revelations
that the FBI and the CIA were not what they should be. On the local level
hundreds of hometown reporters searched for mini-Watergates and found some.
Government chicanery and corruption, unethical business alliances, organized
crime and union racketeering were the targets of newsmen across the nation.
Investigative reporters became our new folk heroes and Don Bolles had been
one of them. His murder had scared those who practiced the craft.

On the afternoon of the bombing Arizona Attorney General Bruce Babbitt
extended the chill even further. "It's a departure from the unwritten rule of
organized crime that you don't harm members of the press, the cops or the
judges, " he said. " I suppose the message is, if it can happen to Don
Bolles, then it can happen to anyone."

Later, Maricopa County Attorney Don Harris was even more direct. "The Bolles
bombing was done as a gesture to the news media to stop looking into this
community."

Nationwide, reporters got the message. And it made them both frightened and
furious.

Ron Koziol was late for work the morning of June 3, 1976. State construction
crews were repairing 

Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

To Monsanto:
You wish to destroy forest, create desert, and control
oasis.
Go scriosa an diabhal do chuid airgid caim.
Bill Gallagher



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 There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia  over MONSANTO
 and its genetically modified seeds.   US even used the ECHELON system to
 intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto.  NSA denies this but
 they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability").

 The press in the US has been mostly silent  Gutless.

 This is a prime example of a transnational  firm implementing New World
 Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through seeds
 and water.

 It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as  firm, through revocation
 of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO.   It is
 a  narrow and specific target.  Very vulnerable.
 Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place (Monsanto
 products) and infowar.

 ASU

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Re: [CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY

1999-09-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Er, Kite-flying is a hazard? To whom or what? Is Rudy afraid his cape is
going to get caught in the kite-strings when he's doing his Superman shtick?
Has his ego gotten so big that he thinks if a kite hits it his head will
explode?

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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Why Giuliani is Gassing NY

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 What hasn't gotten much press outside of the kite-flying community is
 Guliani's crackdown on kite flyers, banning kite flying in most of NYC's
 parks...he claims it's a hazard...  :-7




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[CTRL] A Shepherd for the Sheeple

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html
A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City
Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A
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Laissez Faire City Times
September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38
Editor  Chief: Emile Zola

A Shepherd for the Sheeple

by Sunni Maravillosa


Many individuals understand the analogy of the state being a protective
shepherd of its citizens. Indeed, many well-intentioned people think
this is an acceptable activity for the state to engage in. Those who
value liberty more than security are apt to think otherwise, however,
and with good reason. The United States’ federal government is an
excellent example of the inevitable outcome of good intentions coupled
with state control. In its never-ending bid to protect us from
ourselves, the number of laws that control what a citizen can and cannot
do, or that mandate paperwork, fees, waiting periods, and other
life-draining measures has grown exponentially. That trend has continued
at the state and local levels as well. The result is, many legal experts
have opined, a tangle of regulations that make it virtually impossible
for anyone to conduct business and be in full compliance with all
relevant laws.

In the United States, however, the law is only one aspect of the way the
US government shepherds its flock. Agencies such as the Food and Drug
Administration, the Department of Agriculture, the Environmental
Protection Agency, and the Drug Enforcement Agency are charged with
creating and enforcing national policy in their various areas of
jurisdiction, all with the lofty goal of "the good of the people" in
mind. Since such agencies are paid for by the state (never mind that the
real payee is the taxpayer—the bureaucrats conveniently overlook this
fact routinely) and are dependent upon the state for their continued
existence, which "good" do you think will be served when the good of the
people and the good of the state are at cross purposes?

The War on (some) Drugs is a classic example of disastrous public policy
that is touted as being "for the good of the people." Begun as nothing
more than racism focused on some minorities’ choices of mind-altering
substances (primarily the Chinese and their use of heroin), it is today
an enormous sinkhole of resources—including human lives (
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.35/daniel.html). It is extremely irrational
that highly addictive nicotine is so readily available, yet less
addictive morphine and heroin are not. It is illogical that
alcohol—responsible for millions of dollars of damage, and many deaths
annually—is legal to adults above a minimum age, yet marijuana—fairly
widely used, yet without similar costs in its wake—is not.

In fact, it’s particularly egregious that marijuana is classified as a
Schedule I substance (no recognized medical use), because the evidence
is increasingly supportive of a wide variety of beneficial uses for it.
Among these include: reducing the intraocular pressure that threatens
the vision of individuals with glaucoma; pain relief for some chronic
pain conditions; nausea relief; stimulating the appetite; and anxiety
reduction for certain conditions. As individuals become aware of these
uses for marijuana, and the relatively low risks associated with its
use, support for medical marijuana (MMJ) has grown. Voters in several
states, including California, Arizona, and Oregon have passed laws
legalizing MMJ use with a physician’s approval. Washington DC’s MMJ ba
llot result was suppressed for months because the powers-that-be
couldn’t decide how to handle the issue; now that they’ve been
announced—surprise, surprise—the result has been declared "moot". (That
should be sufficient to wake up anyone who still believes the
civics-lesson crap about voting actually making a difference.)

Yet, like hungry dogs guarding their bones, agencies involved in the War
on (some) Drugs continue the press against marijuana use. In the states
where MMJ use is now legal, the DEA—without so much as a blink—has
continued its rabid hounding of MMJ users. Part of this activity seems
driven by DEA boss Barry McCaffrey, who gives all the appearance of a
zealot in his tireless crusade against "the evil weed." As a result,
critically ill people have endured the feds’ best drug raid tactics—as
if someone taking chemotherapy would be able to wrestle a team of the
boys in blue to the ground with her or his bare hands. Such actions make
it clear that in this case, the good of the people is far from uppermost
in the DEA’s decision-making.

Interestingly enough, a recent decision handed down by the Ninth Circuit
Federal Appeals Court will help shed some light on the state’s
motivations in the matter. According to a September 20 Los Angeles Times
 story (http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/t84324.html), the
three-judge panel has ruled that marijuana is "legal for the seriously
ill". The 

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] PJB Praises Quayles 'Uncommon Decency, High Ability'

1999-09-27 Thread Bill Richer

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 27, 1999

BUCHANAN PRAISES QUAYLE'S 'UNCOMMON DECENCY, HIGH ABILITY'

MCLEAN, VA -- Today, Republican candidate Patrick J. Buchanan released
the following statement:

"The departure of Dan Quayle removes from the presidential lists a man of
uncommon decency and high ability, who has borne the wounds of political
conflict with far more grace than would any of those who unjustly inflicted
them. Of those running, I can think of none with superior knowledge or
experience, or the temperament to be President of the United States. I regret
the inexorable power of Big Money robbed him of the opportunity to fairly
compete. Shelley and I wish him and Marilyn all the best. He is a good man
and deserved better than he got."

For more information contact: JoAnne Hansen at 703.734.2700

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[CTRL] Dr. Dolecek: I ACCUSE!: Anti-Serb attitudes of VACLAV HAVEL

1999-09-27 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU
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I ACCUSE!
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Dr Rajko Dolecek, PRAGUE, March 1999
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/ddj/Kosovo/articles/Dolecek.html

[Citat #1]: THE ANTI-SERB ATTITUDES OF PRESIDENT VACLAV HAVEL
[Citat #2]: THE CZECH PRESIDENT MR. VACLAV HAVEL DID NOT DISAPPOINT HIS
MENTORS


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[Citat #1]:
=
THE ANTI-SERB ATTITUDES OF PRESIDENT VACLAV HAVEL
=

The traditional friendship between the Czechs and the Serbs was seriously
damaged during the recent (1991-96) tragic events in Yugoslavia. The
official Czech authorities, a substantial part of them, and a big part of
the Czech media, must be blamed for it. Both the politicians and the media
parroted the informations and comments from the West: Most of the Czech
press is, oddly enough, owned by the Germans, even the well sold Mlada
fronta DNES. Practically all the regional papers are in the German hands as
well. In many newspapers exist "instant experts on the Yugoslav affairs"
whose comments are full of disinformations about the Serbs. Their vocabulary
suggests a similarity with the Newspeak in "Nineteen Eighty-Four" by G.
Orwell, quite often.

A part of the responsibility for the deterioration of the Serb-Czech
relations is undoubtedly connected with the name of Mr. Václav Havel,
president of the Czech Republic. His anti-Serb statements were often
corrected by the Czech former Prime minister Mr. Václav Klaus.

Czechs were astonished by the words of their President in Washington at the
end of April 93, when the Memorial of holocaust was opened there. He said
that it would be necessary to bomb (the Serbian positions, added the AP) in
Bosnia-Herzegovina, to end the war there. Why did he tell it? Whom wished he
to please? Mr. Klaus, the Prime minister tried to correct him already the
next day: "It is a too simplified evaluation of the events in Yugoslavia,
because the situation is much more complicated there and it is not so easy
to determine the culprit." Since that time on, Mr. Havel referred repeatedly
to the army of Serbs from Bosnia-Herzegovina as "the wild army of Karadzic",
he called them "the thugs", "the bandits", "the criminals". During the
fighting in Srebrenica his words about the Serbs and their army were very
rude. But he insulted the Serbs very much during the anti-Serb spectacle in
September-October 95 called "The month of Bosnia and Herzegovina" in Prague.
There were no Serbs from Republika Srpska there, and the very few Serbs who
were present did not represent anybody. The old arch-enemy of the Serbs, Mr.
Otto von Habsburg made caustic remarks about them. Mr. Izetbegovic was
received by Mr. Havel with an utter pomp and ceremony, who spoke again about
the thugs, bandits, criminals of Karadzic and Mladic. At that time Mr.
Klaus, the Prime minister, refused to meet Mr. Izetbegovic and left Prague.
He declared then: "My attitude is the attitude of an analyst who likes to
know all the facts including those not chosen, because of an one-sided
way... It seems to me terribly simplified to proclaim that the Serbs are
post-communists, while the others were democrats..."

When the Croatian army attacked in spite of all the agreements and
regardless of the presence of the UNPROFOR, the territory of the Republic
Srpska Krajina, killing many civilians (e.g., 22nd of January 93 its
southern part, on 9th September 93 the villages Divoselo, Medak, Citluk near
Gospic - where the French troops of UNPROFOR behaved in an utterly cowardly
way), our president had nothing to say. When the Croatian troops invaded the
western Slavonia killing hundreds of civilians, burning and looting their
property, during the operation Storm which ended in expulsion of 200.000
Serbs and in massacres of those who stayed at home, our president had no
words of compassion. He just said that he is not happy with those events,
but that Croatia just managed to reintegrate its lost territory and that it
was not "the wild army of Karadzic". Our president never spoke about the
atrocities made by the Croats and Muslims, he strictly adhered to the view
of the West. But, nevertheless he used to say that he had nothing against
the Serbs as a nation. He even said (12th January 97) that he had
appreciated a lot the help of the Serbs when he had been a dissident - in
1966 a Serbian theatre (Studio 212) performed in Belgrade his play "The
Garden Party", among the first in the world. But, regardless of this, he had
nothing to say about the punishment of the whole Serb nation by the draconic
sanctions from 1992, during which and because of which thousands died, he
did not comment the expulsion of Yugoslavia from the WHO in 1993, he never
tried to help the Czech trusted friends, the Serbs, by e.g., a peace
initiative of his own, by words of compassion. A humane man who feels so

[CTRL] (Fwd) Are You a Target of the News?

1999-09-27 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Subject:Are You a Target of the "News"?

Information on this email course is at the bottom.

For Whom the Camera Blinks

Corporations spend more than $10 billion on public relations every year.
But we don't have to worry. First, lies are readily apparent. Second,
there are limits to how much misinformation is possible. Take the news: as
Dan Rather's autobiography proclaimed, "The Camera Never Blinks."

If only. From advertising to lobbying, from censorship to coopting the
enemy, from hiring experts to lying with statistics, public relations has
become the science of making democracy safe for corporate power. Many of
these topics will be the subject of future emails, but for now, consider
just five techniques deployed to affect what you see as "news."

First, size matters: there are 130,000 reporters in the U.S. -- and
150,000 practitioners of PR. "The best PR," boasts one PR executive, "ends
up looking like news." By one study's estimate, 40% of all news is
unedited material straight from PR offices, much of it in "video news
releases" that are often run on TV news programs with no mention of the
firms who produced them. If you can't see the interests of those telling
you the "news," you can't decipher the bias.

A powerful lock on what the media do produce is corporate control of
advertising revenue the media depend on to survive. "Large corporations
pump $100 billion per year in advertising dollars into the coffers of U.S.
media alone," write John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton, authors of " udge is
Good for You: Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry." Quoting
media critic Ben Bagdikian, they note "selecting news in order to make
advertising more effective is becoming so common that it has achieved the
status of scientific precision and publishing wisdom." The authors
continue, "PR executive Robert Dilenschneider admits that 'the notion that
business and editorial decisions in the press and the media are totally
separate is largely a myth.'"

A third influence is that this power is concentrated through mergers and
acquisitions: "Two of the biggest PR firms, Burson-Marsteller and Hill 
Knowlton are owned by two of the biggest advertising conglomerates,
respectively Young  Rubicam and the WPP Group. These two PR/advertising
giants purchase billions of dollars of media print space, TV and radio
time. Their clients include Philip Morris, McDonald's, Ford Motor Company,
Johnson  Johnson, ATT, Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Nutrasweet, Revlon, Reebok, and
hundreds of other major advertisers," write Stauber and Rampton.

Another means to curry the media's favor--do they really need more?--"is
to court individual journalists who have become media celebrities,
offering them large sums of money for a brief appearance and talk,"
Stauber and Rampton write. "During the 1993-94 debate over health care
reform, the National Journal reported that drug companies and trade
associations were 'practically throwing money at journalists to get them
to speak at their events.'" They cite a more recent example in ABC News's
Cokie Roberts who accepted a $35,000 fee to speak to the Junior League of
Fort Lauderdale, subsidized by JM Family Enterprises, a multi-billion
dollar company that distributes Toyotas.

In a fifth but by no means last tactic used to shape the news, "PR firms
also hire journalists to participate in training sessions so PR flacks can
hone their skills in handling media situations. In Sierra Magazine,
reporter Dashka Slater describes her experience working for Robert J.
Meyers and Associates, a Houston-based consulting firm that hired her and
two other journalists to help ARCO Petroleum practice its PR plan for
handling the news media following environmental disasters. In a staged
run-through of an oil spill, Slater and the other reporters were assigned
to play the part of the 'predatory press.' Professional actors were
brought in to play the role of environmentalists. ARCO employees and
government officials played themselves. 'The drills give company flacks
the opportunity to practice varnishing the truth just in case the mop-up
doesn't go as planned,' wrote Slater. 'Mostly the company and government
spokespeople did what they had learned to do in numerous media-training
workshops: convey as little information as possible in as many words as
possible.' In the past 6 years, Meyers and Associates have conducted more
than 400 such training drills."

Whether it's creating the news, funding the news, concentrating its power,
buying journalists, or using journalists to practice dry runs for crisis
management, PR firms don't have to worry whether the camera blinks: they
control what it looks at.

For more info about "Toxic Sludge is Good for You: Lies, Damn 

Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

OTOH...see Neal Stephenson's *Cryptonomicon*, which speculates that gold
could be used as the basis of a transnational cybercurrency independent of
national currencies. The intrinsic value of a substance, in any event, has
no necessary relationship to its use as a medium of exchange; see Shea and
Wilson, *Illuminatus*, sub "flaxscript" and "hempscript". Consider also the
widespread use of Marlboros as a medium of exchange in many parts of the
Third World.

 -Original Message-
 From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 8:40 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

  -Caveat Lector-

 Thanks Ric,
 So I gather I am barking up the wrong tree..
snip

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1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-
Today's Lesson from The Year of the Rat

by Edward Timperlake  William C. Triplett II


Among those who made money on the Beijing Enterprises disaster were the
Riadys. They have two powerful allies in Beijing/Hong Kong financial
circles: Shen Jueren, leader of China Resources, and Li Ka-shing of the
ill-fated Beijing Enterprises. They are all connected as partners in the
Riady's Hong Kong Chinese Bank. Just before the Asian meltdown, Lippo
Ltd. and China Resources Ltd. announced share placement with a Beijing
Enterprises subsidiary. It appears that, in essence, Beijing Enterprises
acquired a stake in a Lippo company listed in Hong Kong. Lippo received
HK$897 million in net proceeds (approximately US$122 million) from its
deal with Beijing Enterprises. The money was then moved to Lippo/China
Resources Limited, which had previously been identified as an associate
of Chinese military intelligence. This means that Li Ka-shing, a senior
player with Beijing Enterprises, is connected in a move of more than
US$100 million to Mochtar Riady's empire, which in turn is connected to
Chinese military intelligence.
-

Gold Market

European Central Banks Ban Gold Sales

Good news for the gold price.


Fifteen European central banks including the Bank of England last night
announced a surprise five-year moratorium on all new sales of gold held
in official reserves.


The move was organised by the G-10 group of central bankers, chaired by
Eddie George, governor of the Bank of England, and was announced by Wim
Duisenberg, European Central Bank president, who is attending the annual
International Monetary Fund annual meeting in Washington.


The price of gold has seen heavy falls and volatility since the decision
announced by the UK Treasury earlier this year to sell 415 tonnes of
their reserves out of a total of 715 tonnes. So far it has sold 50
tonnes.


Expectations that official holders of gold would sell more have been
important in depressing the price.


The central banks involved in the moratorium hold about 70 per cent of
the global official holdings of gold. Together with the US, which
publicly disavows any intention of selling gold, and the IMF, which has
recently cancelled a plan for open market gold sales after opposition in
the US Congress, the amount of gold apparently safe from official sales
comprises 90 per cent of official holdings.


The moratorium extends to further gold leasings by the central banks.
Leasings have enabled speculators to drive the price of gold down by
taking short positions - borrowing and then selling the commodity.


Mr Duisenberg said that the intention of the sale was to maximise
certainty in the gold market following recent volatility.


He said that central bankers "had not been immune" to the intense
lobbying by the World Gold Council and gold exporting countries
following the UK's decision, which he blamed for the price volatility.


The UK Treasury said yesterday it strongly welcomed the move, but said
that the UK would continue with its planned sales over the next three
years.

The Financial Times, September 27, 1999


Japanese Finance

Japan Agrees to Debase the Yen

Money creation ex nihilo


The Bank of Japan has responded to domestic and international pressure
to ease monetary policy to weaken the yen, enabling Japan to win an
unexpected expression of concern from other Group of Seven governments.


Masaru Hayami, the governor of the BoJ, said in Washington on Saturday:
"We are exploring how we could improve money market operations so as to
assure the further permeation of liquidity in the context of a zero
interest rate policy."


The statement was a clear sign by the central bank that it was not
resisting moves to ease monetary policy. Last week, differences between
the BoJ and the Japanese government emerged over the issue of undoing
the effect of foreign exchange intervention, driving stocks down sharply
and making the yen rise.


The bank's statement, together with a reiterated commitment from the
Japanese government to a further fiscal stimulus, were sufficient to win
an admission from the G7 finance ministers and central bank governors
meeting in Washington that they shared Japan's concern about the impact
of the yen's appreciation.


An unexpectedly explicit G7 statement left open the possibility of
co-ordinated international action to head off the Japanese currency's
appreciation.


The communiqué said the group "shared Japan's concern about the
potential impact of the yen's appreciation for the Japanese economy and
the world economy". It added that they welcomed indications by the
Japanese authorities that "policies would be conducted appropriately" in
view of this potential impact. "We will continue to monitor developments
in exchange markets and co-operate as appropriate," the G7 said.


Paul Chertkow, head of global currency 

[CTRL] Fwd: Danforth Probe Compromised, GOP Complicit RE: Waco massacre/D.C. Weekly on Waco--Excellent Article!

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan





9.26.99
Fla. GOP Opponent Thompson Says Reno Compromised
by DUI Arrests, Use of Prostitutes, Ties to Porno  Organized Crime;
Enabling Use As "Expendable" "Firewall"
Re: Administration Illegalities, Atrocities

Claims GOP Fully Aware of Reno's Past, Administration Manipulations
During Reno Confirmation Hearings

Says Danforth Probe WILL NOT Touch Info


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Subject: Re: WACO: BLUEPRINT FOR DISASTER - DANFORTH WACO PROBE
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb77532MyNum=93828895
5P=YesTL=938272096

POSTED APFN MESSAGE BOARD:
http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 07:25:08 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My name is Jack Thompson.  I am the last Republican to run against Janet
Reno, as I was her opponent in 1988 for the office of Dade County (Florida)
State Attorney.

One of the reasons I ran against Reno was the fact that she was blackmailed
by a criminal pornography enterprise.  I gave the proof in my campaign.

I also provided to Bill Clinton, before he even nominated her to be Attorney
General (I heard from a friend in the Justice  Department that she was on
the "short list" of nominees), not only the proof of her blackmail but
also the evidence of her five drunk driving incidents, her use of call
girls, and her disturbing ties to organized crime.

I gave this information to Clinton through my best friend at Vanderbilt Law
School, Class of 1976, an attorney by the name of M. Samuel Jones, who by
then was a partner to Bruce Lindsey in the Little Rock firm of Wright,
Lindsey  Jennings.  Confirmation that Clinton got all the information that
disqualified Reno from practicing law, let alone being the AG, came in a
phone call from someone at the White House before her confirmation hearings
who wanted to know all that I knew.  His name?  Lanny Davis.  Davis clearly
wanted to know what I knew not to disqualify her but to discredit me should
it all hit the fan in public.  This was the beginning of my education about
the ways of Washington and of the political elite of both parties who
protect themselves rather than the interests of the American people.

I say that because now I am writing letters to Senator Danforth to ask him
to subpoena me to testify in his "investigation" of what happened at
Waco and its aftermath in order that his team might consider the fact
that Reno had a powerful disincentive to get to the bottom of Waco.  The
disincentive is, of course, the blackmail information that the President
has on Reno.  It is how he has kept her on line on Chinagate and every
other "gate" for which she has proven so useful.

The reason Danforth won't want to get into that is the complicity of the
Senate Republicans in assuring that Reno became A.G.  Orrin Hatch, for
example, knew of the five police officers who pulled her over for drunk
driving while she was State Attorney down here.  How do I know?  Because his
Judiciary Committee staffer, John Bliss, told me that Hatch had the police
officers but did not want to go public with them because "The Senate
Republicans don't want to mess with the Anita Hill crowd again."

So, folks, there you have it:  Danforth won't get to the bottom of Waco,
which means getting to the bottom of the cover-up, because to do so exposes
the Republicans as complicit in the Waco disaster.  They knew Reno was a
drunk and a compromised one at that, who could be controlled with this and
other information by the extortionate White House, and yet they sat on their
hands at the moment that she could have been denied the post.

Orrin Hatch has the blood of 24 kids on his hands.  I have told all this to
Danforth, and he won't even have his people talk to me.  I said this on Fox
News Channel on Labor Day while being interviewed about Waco, and the
interviewer freaked and pulled the plug on the interview.

Fox News, if you're wanting to do something, should be inundated with calls
asking me to be interviewed in depth about this.  And Danforth should be
pressured to talk to me.

I leave it in your hands.  I have tried everything to get this word out.
 I
can testify to all of this under oath, and I have witnesses to corroborate
it all.

But America will not know the truth about Waco until it knows that Reno was
picked by Clinton to be his firewall between all his criminality and
accountability for it.

Jack Thompson, 305-666-4366
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Should The Senate Be Sued?
http://www.esotericworldnews.com/sued.htm

Sue The United States Senate??? YES!!
   Contact: John B. Thompson, Attorney
   1172 South Dixie Highway, Suite 111
  Coral Gables, Florida 33146-2750
  Phone  Fax: 305-666-4366
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[CTRL] Names With Blood on Their Hands

1999-09-27 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html
A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.38/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City
Times - Volume 3 Issue 38/A
-
Laissez Faire City Times
September 27, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 38
Editor  Chief: Emile Zola

Names With "Blood on Their Hands"

by Richard S. Ehrlich


JAKARTA, Indonesia -- Now that foreign troops have landed in East Timor,
Western diplomats and others are starting to name names of military
officials who allegedly "have blood on their hands."

Recent East Timor killings, mostly by anti-independence militias and the
military, are the latest in a 23-year legacy of Indonesian rule which
has left up to 200,000 East Timorese dead.

International investigators, prompted by demands for a war crimes
tribunal, are now tracking the most recent bloodstains to determine
where they lead in the military hierarchy.

One respected Western diplomat, who follows East Timor very closely,
told The Laissez Faire City Times, "These are the people who have blood
on their hands."

He then pushed a button on his embassy's computer and printed a list of
five names, all of them powerful military men who shaped East Timor's
recent history.

The five people on the list have not been charged with any wrongdoing.
No hard, direct evidence has publicly appeared to link them to any
crime.

Any final determination of their alleged involvement in East Timor's
slaughter and destruction would require objective proof or other
testimony.

The list, however, indicated the focus and direction of current
inquiries by diplomats and investigators.

Diplomats said they are discussing among themselves, and with others,
the behavior of various military officers to discover what they knew,
when they knew it, and what orders they may have given before, during
and after East Timor's August 30 vote for independence.

Referring to the post-election bloodshed -- and claims that the military
armed, trained and orchestrated the militias to kill East Timorese
independence supporters -- the Western diplomat said, "This was planned
by the military months and months before."

The first name on the diplomat's alphabetized list was Major-General
Adam Damiri, based on the island of Bali, which is the military command
headquarters for nearby East Timor.

The diplomat's dossier described Damiri as "Bali Territorial Commander,
military chief responsible for East Timor" and "seen as hardliner on
East Timor and possible break in the chain of command."

The second name on the list was Major-General Zacky Anwar Makarim, also
in the Indonesian military.

Makarim's dossier listed him as "former intelligence chief."

His dossier added that Makarim was "seen in Dili during militia attacks
on April 17, 1999. Appointed as head of military in East Timor shortly
afterwards, until his removal in August 1999. Investigated by the United
Nations."

American officials have also pointed at Makarim.

The Hong Kong-based Far Eastern Economic Review magazine reported,
"Diplomatic sources say influential (US) Democratic Senator Tom Harkin
personally urged President B. J. Habibie to replace Zacky."

Independence guerrilla leader Xanana Gusmao -- now in Australia and
expected to become East Timor's first president -- said on August 5, "I
told Zacky, 'If (independence rebels) FALINTIL is disarmed, who can
assure us that after the ballot that you will not try to kill us, to
kill the people, and create chaos in East Timor'."

Number three on the diplomat's list was Colonel Tono Suratman, an
Indonesian military officer listed as "Catholic. Pope's security detail
during Indonesia visit. Special Forces. Airborne trained at Fort
Benning, Georgia. Infantry. Kopassus. Investigated by the UN for crimes
against humanity."

Kopassus is Indonesia's Special Forces, and was involved in covert and
psychological "psy op" operations throughout Indonesia for many years.

During the 1990s, US Special Forces trained Kopassus in
counterterrorism, sniper fire, and other elite skills, while human
rights groups repeatedly voiced allegations that Kopassus tortured
victims.

Suratman, meanwhile, also reportedly trained in Australia, and served in
a UN peacekeeping mission in Iraq.

Number four on the diplomat's list was Major-General Kiki Syahnakri, who
has since become head of Indonesia's Restoration Operation Command in
East Timor.

Ironically, he greeted UN-mandated Commander of the International Force
for East Timor, Major-General Peter Cosgrove, when the first
peacekeepers arrived at Dili airport.

Syahnakri is currently working alongside Cosgrove in East Timor.

Syahnakri's dossier said he was "suggested as being behind the militia
activities, along with Zacky Anwar."

Syahnakri was also described in the dossier as a member of the
military's dreaded Kopassus Special Forces active in East Timor and
"fluent in the local language Tetun. Spent 11 years in the province in

Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply

1999-09-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

As it happens, I was talking last night with my sister, whose husband died
last year of lung cancer...or rather of the effects of the chemotherapy
which killed the cancer. He had had his left lung removed; when the autopsy
was done after his death, they discovered that there was no sign of cancer
in his right lung. What killed him? The chemo caused massive bleeding in the
remaining lung.

"Orthodox" medicine is more correctly called "allopathy"--the use of poisons
to affect the functioning of the human body. Most of the time these are
dilute; but--as my sister pointed out--this isn't always the case, as in
chemotherapy for cancer. I can witness to the power of side-effects myself;
as part of treatment for pulmonary sarcoidosis last year, I was put on
long-term high-dose prednisone. After six weeks of the prednisone, I
developed a humongous strep infection in the lining of my lung, which
resulted in my spending three weeks in the hospital, a good bit of that with
a chest tube draining fluid. The total amount of fluid removed from my chest
came to close to a full liter (that's roughly a quart, for the
metrically-challenged). Allopathy, in short, killed my brother-in-law, and
nearly killed me.

As I understand it, what homeopathic medicines do is to enhance the ability
of the human body to heal itself. No, homeopathy doesn't work all the time;
but then neither does allopathy, and homeopathic remedies are much safer
than allopathic ones. Any medicine is inherently dangerous. There are an
awful lot of herbal medicines which you should never use without the close
supervision of a physician. But homeopathic medicines are much safer to use
than their "orthodox" counterparts, because they have far fewer
side-effects. I often use a specific combination of homeopathic remedies for
my arthritis, which relieves pain when NSAIDs (non-steroidal
anti-inflammatory drugs), even very expensive NSAIDs, will not. And with the
homeopathics I don't run the risk of intestinal bleeding, which is always a
risk with NSAIDs.

If you investigate how allopathic medicines work, you will discover that, in
fact, there are some of them that increase in potency the more they are
diluted. (No, I'm not sure which ones...can someone on the list help out
here?) This is widely known throughout the medical and pharmaceutical
communities, but for obvious reasons not well publicized. I suspect that the
real issue in the suppression of homeopathy, and also of herbal medicine, is
that the medical profession is afraid that if it became widely known that
highly effective remedies for common conditions are available, which do not
have the devastating side-effects of so many chemical remedies, the public
which is now paying them so handsomely will decide to check out the contents
of their gardens instead. But THAT is, perhaps, the subject of a new thread.
;^)

 -Original Message-
 From: Gavin Phillips [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:48 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy  Hit Piece..reply

  -Caveat Lector-

snip

 Read "Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries" by Jonathan Eisen. I
 cannot recommend this book too highly. Very well written and documented
 suppression of very inexpensive and non toxic cancer treatments. Other
 information about suppressed alternative energy inventors. An excellent
 book.
 Gavin.

snip

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Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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Are you taking the piss Ric or being serious??
Peter

We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage
Bargain Books
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- Original Message -
From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Where has all the gold gone?


 -Caveat Lector-

 - Original Message -
 From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  OK guys, here;s a question.. Where is all the gold going??
 
  The Illuminati are collecting all the world's available gold
  for delivery -- in 2003 -- to the Anunnaki Serpent masters
  on Nibiru, the 3400 year eliptical orbit '12th planet'.
 
  But you knew that.

 Yes, it's obvious.  And Andy Groves uses his Bilderberger links
 to get just enough industrial gold to keep the processors rolling
 off the production line.  In fact, ALL electronics components
 makers are part of that network.  ALL electronics devices are
 used for mind-control.  We are being prepared.

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[CTRL] Strange but true

1999-09-27 Thread Bill Richer

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Strange but true

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.
Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth,who assassinated Lincoln,was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.
Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Kennedy.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln.'
Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

AND HERE'S THE KICKER...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe

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[CTRL] Bivens v. FBI

1999-09-27 Thread Jabr 333

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Listers:  I have been researching different court decisions through a great
URL on the Net called Findlaw -- actually most of the U.S. body of law and
decisions (which define the laws in greater depth) are available on the Net
now.  This particular decision may be of interest to mind control victims who
want to attempt litigation in a federal court against the FBI -- or even
other govt agencies.  I put a sample brief, which could be used by victims
(H. Girard's brief from a year ago) on the Net a while back -- but the Bivens
decision is pretty well known.  I am not sure what decisions may have
preceeded this decision -- and may be more important, but victims should know
of this bit of pre-Watergate law.  Now FBI agents are not often "seen"
breaking and entering homes with out sufficient cause or action, they find
OTHER ways to assault victims, and Bivens may be one of the reasons.  See
below -- Judith
_

BIVENS ACTION


 BIVENS ACTIONS Damages remedies for constitutional violations committed by
federal agents were not available until 1971. Althouth the Supreme Court had
long held that federal courts had the power to grant relief not expressly
authorized by statute as well as the power to adjust remedies to grant relief
made necessary by the particular circumstances of the case at hand, it was
not until the Court's decision in Bivens v. 6 unknown named agents of the FBI
403US388, 91SCT1999, 29LE2d 619(1971) that a violation of a specific
constitutional amendment by a federal agent was recognized as giving rise to
a cause of action for money damages.

In Bivens, the plaintiff alleged that federal agents had arrested him and
searched his home without a warrant or probable cause in violation of the 4th
amendment's ban against unreasonable searches and seizures.

The Court upheld the sufficiency of the complaint in the face of a motion to
dismiss for failure to state a cause of action and rejected the argument that
a state tort action provided an adequate and exclusive judicial remedy. Even
though there was no specific authority for such a civil action in the
Constitution, the Bil of Rights, or any federal statute, the Court recognized
a judicial remedy on the basis of the historic power of the federal courts to
redress personal injury through the particular remedial mechanism of money
damages.

These judicially created causes of action, known as BIVENS ACTIONS , provided
merely remedies, not substantive rights. Despite the absence of any federal
statutory or constitutional basis for such a cause of action, the historic
use of damages by federal courts as an ordinary remedy for the invasion of
personal liberty interests led the Court to conclude that a plaintiff should
be allowed to redress a violation of the plaintiff's 4th amendment rights by
the federal agents with a monetary award.

Since the very essence of civil liberty consists of the right to protection
of the laws of the federal government, the Court reasoned that the issue is
not whether the availability of money damages is necessary to enforce the 4th
amendment.

Nor is it enough to rely on state law as aprotection because the interests of
state laws regulating trespass and the invasion of privacy and the interests
protected by; the Forth Amendment may be incosistent or even hostile to one
another. Rather, the Court's concern was the lack of real relief for
constitutional violations. Compounding this concern was the Court's
perception that a federal agent acting unconstitutionally in the name of the
U.S. possesses a far greater capacity for harm than an individual exercising
no more authority than his or her own.

A damages remedy for plaintiffs injured by federal officials and agents thus
became a means to vindicate A plaintiff may establish an actionable Bivens
claim based on conspiracy by showing:



(1) the existence of an express or implied agreement among the defendants to
deprive him of const. rights,
and

(2) an actual deprivation of those Constitutional rights resulting from the
agreement.



 BIVENS v. SIX UNKNOWN FED. NARCOTICS AGENTS,
403 U.S. 388 (1971), 403 U.S. 388
From FindLaw

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Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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Robert,
My web page (link below)is devoted to the pole shift..I don't know whether
you have checked out the 2 links there re dropa but here they are.. First
time on pole shift huh...well you better have a closer look I think..
Did you read who Eckhert is and what the 'fictional' work was based on...Ah
I don't think Einstein was into fiction..do you??
http://www.in-search-of.com/frames/stonedisk/stonedisk_nf.shtml

http://www.nii.net/~obie/dropa.htm

Have you read the book the Hab Theory?.. then how can  you call it science
fiction...shame on you
We are on the eve of the next shift
All Aboard
Peter
PS all the pictures on my site have miraculously disappeared so I will have
to get them up again..

We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones


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 Every time I see this story turning up, it traces back NO FURTHER than
Allan
 Eckert's novel *The HAB Theory*. IMHO, it classifies as an Internet myth
at
 this point. The novel is indeed "interesting fiction;" it was my first
 contact with pole shift hypotheses. However, Eckert offers no supporting
 evidence for his "ancient mysteries," and lacking such evidence I have to
 consider the book to be pure science fiction.

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  Subject:  [CTRL] The Dropa Stones
 
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  Interesting archeology information, if true.  Interesting fiction if
not.
  Take a look and judge for yourself.
  This is forwarded from a newsgroup.
 
 
  Subject: The Dropa Stones
  From: Reverend Chupacabra A
  HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
  Date: Thu, 23 September 1999 02:59 AM EDT
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  Has this story been debunked, dehoaxed, clarified,
  expanded upon, ignored, verified, updated, or what?
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[CTRL] More Bivens

1999-09-27 Thread Jabr 333

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Here is much of the Bivens decision from http://mansue.com/scbivnsa.html

U.S. Supreme Court: BIVENS v. SIX UNKNOWN FED. NARCOTICS AGENTS,
403 U.S. 388 (1971)



403 U.S. 388
BIVENS v. SIX UNKNOWN NAMED AGENTS OF FEDERAL BUREAU OF NARCOTICS
CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT
No. 301.
Argued January 12, 1971
Decided June 21, 1971


Petitioner's complaint alleged that respondent agents of the Federal Bureau
of Narcotics, acting under color of federal authority, made a warrantless
entry of his apartment, searched the apartment, and arrested him on narcotics
charges. All of the acts were alleged to have been done without probable
cause. Petitioner's suit to recover damages from the agents was dismissed by
the District Court on the alternative grounds (1) that it failed to state a
federal cause of action and (2) that respondents were immune from suit by
virtue of their official position. The Court of Appeals affirmed on the first
ground alone. Held:


1. Petitioner's complaint states a federal cause of action under the Fourth
Amendment for which damages are recoverable upon proof of injuries resulting
from the federal agents' violation of that Amendment. Pp. 390-397.

2. The Court does not reach the immunity question, which was not passed on by
the Court of Appeals. Pp. 397-398.

409 F.2d 718, reversed and remanded.
BRENNAN, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which DOUGLAS, STEWART,
WHITE, and MARSHALL, JJ., joined. HARLAN, J., filed an opinion concurring in
the judgment, post, p. 398. BURGER, C. J., post, p. 411, BLACK, J., post, p.
427, and BLACKMUN, J., post, p. 430, filed dissenting opinions.

Stephen A. Grant argued the cause and filed a brief for petitioner.

Jerome Feit argued the cause for respondents. On the brief were Solicitor
General Griswold, Assistant Attorney General Ruckelshaus, and Robert V. Zener.

Melvin L. Wulf filed a brief for the American Civil Liberties Union as amicus
curiae urging reversal. [403 U.S. 388, 389]

MR. JUSTICE BRENNAN delivered the opinion of the Court.

The Fourth Amendment provides that:


"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated .
. . ."

In Bell v. Hood, 327 U.S. 678 (1946), we reserved the question whether
violation of that command by a federal agent acting under color of his
authority gives rise to a cause of action for damages consequent upon his
unconstitutional conduct. Today we hold that it does.
This case has its origin in an arrest and search carried out on the morning
of November 26, 1965. Petitioner's complaint alleged that on that day
respondents, agents of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics acting under claim of
federal authority, entered his apartment and arrested him for alleged
narcotics violations. The agents manacled petitioner in front of his wife and
children, and threatened to arrest the entire family. They searched the
apartment from stem to stern. Thereafter, petitioner was taken to the federal
courthouse in Brooklyn, where he was interrogated, booked, and subjected to a
visual strip search.

On July 7, 1967, petitioner brought suit in Federal District Court. In
addition to the allegations above, his complaint asserted that the arrest and
search were effected without a warrant, and that unreasonable force was
employed in making the arrest; fairly read, it alleges as well that the
arrest was made without probable cause.1 Petitioner claimed to have suffered
great humiliation, [403 U.S. 388, 390] embarrassment, and mental suffering as
a result of the agents' unlawful conduct, and sought $15,000 damages from
each of them. The District Court, on respondents' motion, dismissed the
complaint on the ground, inter alia, that it failed to state a cause of
action.2 276 F. Supp. 12 (EDNY 1967). The Court of Appeals, one judge
concurring specially,3 affirmed on that basis. 409 F.2d 718 (CA2 1969). We
granted certiorari. 399 U.S. 905(1970). We reverse.


I
Respondents do not argue that petitioner should be entirely without remedy
for an unconstitutional invasion of his rights by federal agents. In
respondents' view, however, the rights that petitioner asserts - primarily
rights of privacy - are creations of state and not of federal law.
Accordingly, they argue, petitioner may obtain money damages to redress
invasion of these rights only by an action in tort, under state law, in the
state courts. In this scheme the Fourth Amendment would serve merely to limit
the extent to which the agents could defend [403 U.S. 388, 391] the state law
tort suit by asserting that their actions were a valid exercise of federal
power: if the agents were shown to have violated the Fourth Amendment, such a
defense would be lost to them and they would stand before the state law
merely as private individuals. Candidly admitting that it is the policy of
the Department of Justice to remove all such suits from the 

[CTRL] Former German terrorist to do humanitarian work in Kosovo:

1999-09-27 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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===
The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU

Copyright 1999 Agence France Presse
Agence France Presse

September 26, 1999 12:19 GMT

   SECTION: International news
   HEADLINE: Former German terrorist to do humanitarian work in Kosovo:
   report
   DATELINE: BERLIN, Sept 26

  A former member of the German terrorist group Red Army Faction
   (RAF) who was jailed for kidnapping and murder will go to Kosovo on a
   humanitarian mission, the German weekly Der Spiegel reported.
   Silke Maier-Witt, 49, now works for the Forum of Civil Service for
   Peace, a coalition of non-governmental and religious organisations,
   the weekly said in its edition due Monday.
   The magazine added that she had already completed an internship with
   the group in Croatia's Krajina region.
   The former terrorist has also attended training sessions in Bonn
   offered by the German ministry for economic cooperation, which has
   tried to dissuade her from going to Kosovo, Der Spiegel said.
   The ministry declined to comment on the report.
   Maier-Witt was prosecuted along with other RAF members for the 1977
   kidnapping and murder of German business leader Hanns Martin Schleyer.
   After seeking refuge in the former East Germany, she and about ten
   other former terrorists surrendered to western German officials prior
   to the country's reunification.
   Sentenced to ten years in prison, Maier-Witt won an early release in
   1995.
   The extreme left-wing RAF committed several attacks and murders in the
   1970s and 1980s before disbanding in April 1998.
   jd/wai/cml
 

Secretary General
Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
Art  historian
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Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply

1999-09-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Ric Carter wrote:

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  IIf water has a memory this is strong validation for homeopathy

 Next time you have cholera, or Ebola, see a homeopath.

 If water has memory, each molecule should remember everybody who's
 ever pissed it out, everything it's ever dissolved.  But where is
 that memory stored?  Look at the structure of a water molecule -
 dihydrogen monoxide.  How many bonds?  How many ways can they be
 arranged?

They are NEVER in ANY ONE possible theoretical position or
"arrangement," hence, the quantum nature of things on small
scales, i.e., quantum mechanics, or the statistical prediction of
a particle's energy states, i.e., the statistiacal analysis of
particle and energy vectors.

Well, since the above is considered to be true via Experimental
Physics connfirming such in new ways almost daily, also true is
one of the other basic premises of Quantum Mechanics, i.e., that
there are an infinite number of realities born at every smallest
increment of time, i.e., if a particle can be in any possible
states, THEN IT IS IN ALL OF THEM, i.e., ALL possibilities are
real (and will continue to be real).

Another way to look at this smallest scale of dimensions and
time, is that when it all comes down to a single particle and
which of it's basic energy states it is in, and hence which
possible future outcome will be a reality, ALL POSSIBLE STATES
ARE REAL, i.e., ALL POSSIBLE STATES WILL EXIST FROM NOW ON.

AND, since all future occurrences are going to follow from which
of one, two, OR possibly a third quantum energy state this
quantum particle is in, well...then according to the confirmed
reality of Quantum Mechanics, ALL POSSIBLE STATES WILL BE REAL,
and hence this one particle has branched out into three different
futures, each of these to split into 2 or 3 more in just a
quantum unit of time later, etc., etc. etc., i.e., INFINITE
REALITIES!

In other words, at this level, everything to come is going to be
based on the outcome of which state of matter/energy a quantum
particle is in, and that any of these states that it is possible
for this particle to be in, IT WILL BE, i.e., new timelimes
(realities) breaking off every quantum set of possibilities.

At this profound level, when the entire future of the Multiverse
is going to be based on this single possible outcome of whether
this one particle is STATISTICALLY going to exist as a plus, a
minus, or possibly a neutral, well...ALL THREE HAPPENED!

At this most very basic of events, the basis of all quantum
mechanics assumes, due to the Heisenberg(sp) Uncertainty
Principle, that ALL POSSIBILITIES, and hence all possible
futures, EXIST AND ARE REAL!

In other words, ALL POSSIBLE FUTURES, IN FACT, DEFINITELY EXIST.

The question *should* be, "where are all of these different
'futures?'"  Well...they ain't here, that's all we know for
sure:)



What information is stored in the arrangement of those
 bonds?  What energy levels are needed to rearrange those bonds?  If
 you dissolve a vanishingly small amount of anything into a quantity
 of water, how is energy transferred from the solute to the water
 molecules?  If water has a memory, if new info can be stored in a
 water molecule, how can that info be unambiguously detected?


The most interesting, and probably the "real deal" (i.e., the
theory that seems to offer the most promise of attaining a
Unified Theory of Everything) is the branch of theoretical
physics called Hyperdimensional Cosmology.

The most popular school of thought in this discipline of
Astrophysics lately is that there are 10 (or 11) dimensions
(i.e., our 4D realm, and it's complimentary 6D dimensional realm,
and then, in order to gain a perspective of these two realms as
they are observed in relation to each other, some cosmologists
insist an 11th dimension may be necessary in order to describe
the entire enchillada, i.e., The Multiverse (btw, does this sound
like what the ancient texts call the Higher and Lower Heavens, or
what?).

Anyway, small forces in our 4D realm (like atomic and
electromagnetic forces) would manifest as large forces in the 6D
realm, and vice versa.  What's more, small forces (eg.,
vibrations of electromagnetic or atomic forces) that approach
zero in our 4D realm, are large forces, like Gravity, that would
be approaching infinity in the 6D realm (Higher Heavens?).

What's more, mass and matter in our 4D realm are vibrations on
one dimensional arrays (or "strings"), or vibrations on a two
dimensional planes, in our complementary 6D realm, and vice
verse.  The above are The Superstring Theory, and more lately,
M-brane and P-brane Theories of Cosmology) .

And, if this is so, and indeed most experts these days are
tending to beleive some variation of this concept, then as the
very smallest of atomic or molecular energies and masses approach
zero (or it's smallest possible quantum quantity) in one realm
(and this would be at 

Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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Yeah, what you said.
Peter

We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting


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 To Monsanto:
 You wish to destroy forest, create desert, and control
 oasis.
 Go scriosa an diabhal do chuid airgid caim.
 Bill Gallagher



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   -Caveat Lector-
 
  There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia  over
MONSANTO
  and its genetically modified seeds.   US even used the ECHELON system to
  intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto.  NSA denies
this but
  they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability").
 
  The press in the US has been mostly silent  Gutless.
 
  This is a prime example of a transnational  firm implementing New World
  Order..Monsantos idea is to get global political control through
seeds
  and water.
 
  It will be far more effective to attack Monsanto as  firm, through
revocation
  of charter and other methods, than to complain generally about NWO.   It
is
  a  narrow and specific target.  Very vulnerable.
  Can be attacked on stock market, through Congress, the market place
(Monsanto
  products) and infowar.
 
  ASU
 
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[CTRL] Virus warnings - please read ...

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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Happy Friday
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WARNING No. 2
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It is at www.geocities.com/vienna/6318
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 Delete it immediately. Microsoft just announced yesterday. It is a
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It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! PENPAL appears to be a
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time you read this letter, it is TOO late.
The Trojan horse virus will have already infected the boot sector of your
harddrive, destroying all the data present. It is a self-replicating virus,
and once the message is read it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself  to an
yone who's e-mail address is present in your box!!!  This virus will
destroy your hard drive and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive
of anyone whose mail is in your box and whose mail is in their box and so
on and on!!
So delete any message titled PENPAL or JOIN THE CREW this virus can do
major DAMAGE to worldwide networks
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Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Dave wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 This is one company that is very RIPE for corporate death.
 REVOKE! Monsanto's corporate charter.

Who, exactly, should revoke Monsanto's charter??? And if someone could
revoke Monsanto's charter, why hasn't anyone done so for Monsanto's past
crimes?

Answer these questions, and you will have the sword to kill the Dragon.

I have been working on this for years, and I have almost completed a plan
that will do just this. Yesterday ( Sunday ) I spoke with Ralph Nader on
this very subject. Thanks to his explanation of the legal obstacles, I
now have the perspective I've been missing. I believe I know how to overcome
these obstacles.

Joshua2


 Dave Hartley
 http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
 http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

 INDEPENDENT (London) September 26

 By Geoffrey Lean

 MONSANTO, the genetically modified food giant, drew up plans to make
 billions of dollars out of the world's water crisis, confidential company
 documents reveal. The documents, seen by the Independent on Sunday,
 identify a "vast economic opportunity" for the company in impending global
 shortages of resources such as water.

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Re: [CTRL] Virus warnings - please read ...

1999-09-27 Thread Tatman, Robert

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These are all hoaxes. Please check things like this out before passing them
on.

 -Original Message-
 From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 5:16 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] Virus warnings - please read ...

  -Caveat Lector-

 
 
 Happy Friday
 This is not junk e mail
 
 
 WARNING No. 1
 If you receive any CELCOM Screen Saver. Pls do not install it!!  This
 screensaver is very cool. It shows a NOKIA handphone, with time messages.
 After it is activated, the PC cannot boot up at all. It goes very slow.
 It
 destroys your hard disk. The filename is CELLSAVER.EXE
 WARNING No. 2
 Beware! if someone named SandMan asks you to check out his page. DO
 NOT!
 It is at www.geocities.com/vienna/6318
 This page hacks into your C:\drive.
 DO NOT GO THERE... FOWARD THIS MAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
 
 Warning No. 3
 SEND THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR CONTACT LIST! THIS IS NO JOKE,OK?
 WARNING: If you get an E-mail titled : "Win A Holiday" DO NOT open it.
  Delete it immediately. Microsoft just announced yesterday. It is a
 malicious virus that WILL ERASE YOUR HARD DRIVE . At this time there is
 no
 remedy . Forward this to everyone IMMEDIATELY!!
 Warning No. 4
 W A R N I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! If you receive an e-mail titled JOIN THE CREW
 or PENPALS DO NOT open it!
 It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! PENPAL appears to be a
 friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal.but by
 the
 time you read this letter, it is TOO late.
 The Trojan horse virus will have already infected the boot sector of your
 harddrive, destroying all the data present. It is a self-replicating
 virus,
 and once the message is read it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself  to an
 yone who's e-mail address is present in your box!!!  This virus will
 destroy your hard drive and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive
 of anyone whose mail is in your box and whose mail is in their box and so
 on and on!!
 So delete any message titled PENPAL or JOIN THE CREW this virus can do
 major DAMAGE to worldwide networks
 PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR MAILBOXES.
  AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS AND THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR
 THIS YET.
 FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS A.S.A.P.!



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[CTRL] glyphs and pictures

1999-09-27 Thread earthman

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My net buddy has put another picture up..wow.. I gotta blow this one up
Peter

Go to my site again and look at the second photo!!!
It's nothing but squares with glyphs and pictures in it. There is no way
that modern man could of made these. Someone or something else made these.
This was cropped of one of my scans of my Indian rocks. The cropped piece as
1" x 1". and blown way up. Now if you can't see them you're gonna have to
get glasses. HA!
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8020/interestingstuff.html


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[CTRL] [Fwd: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil]

1999-09-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 Original Message 
Subject: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:27:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Winkel)
Organization: PACH
To: undisclosed-recipients:;

/** reg.easttimor: 3343.0 **/
** Topic: ST: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil **
** Written 11:44 PM  Sep 23, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in cdp:reg.easttimor **
Subject: ST: Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil

The Straits Times [Singapore]
September 24 1999

PERSPECTIVE

Australia casts an eye on Timor's oil

MOTIVATED BY ECONOMIC FACTORS

HAVING a stake in the Timor Gap oil resources will be crucial for the
Australian economy in years to come, as its off-shore oil fields in the Bass
Straits near Tasmania are due to dry up in a few years' time. Without doubt,
economic factors have motivated Australia's foreign policy towards Indonesia
and the East Timor issue in recent years...

A small, vulnerable East Timor beholden to Australia for rescuing it, may
find it extremely difficult to resist pressure from Australia for extracting
a new treaty which would be more favourable to Australian economic interests
in the region. In this context, the investments Canberra has put into
peacekeeping operations may well turn out to be a small price to pay.

By KALINGA SENEVIRATNE

AUSTRALIA has taken the high moral ground in organising the rescue of the
East Timorese people, perhaps 25 years too late.

While the Western media, and some of the Asian media as well, have hailed
Australia's leadership role in organising the peacekeeping force for East
Timor in such a short time, they have conveniently ignored some pertinent
questions.

Why has Australia moved in such haste to organise an "invading" (in
Indonesian eyes) force into East Timor at this stage, when for the last
quarter of a century it has been the strongest supporter of the Suharto
regime's annexation of the former Portuguese colony?

In answer to this question, it will be interesting to note that the untapped
deep sea-bed oil wealth on the Timor Gap, which will come under the
territorial integrity of an independent East Timor, would have played a big
role in Canberra's decision to mount a rescue act.

On Dec 11, 1989, on board a Royal Australian Air Force VIP 707 plane flying
over the Timor Sea at an altitude of 10,000 metres, the Timor Gap Treaty
(TGT) was signed by the foreign ministers of Australia and Indonesia. Under
the treaty, the two countries are to jointly explore for oil and mineral
resources in the Timor Gap sea-bed and share any revenue from it equally.

When Portugal, as the UN-recognised colonial administrator of East Timor,
challenged it in the World Court (ICJ) in the Hague, Australia defended the
action. Portugal argued that the TGT was illegal because the UN has never
recognised Indonesia's annexation of East Timor.

In June 1995, the ICJ ruled that it could not make a decision on the legality
of Indonesia's annexation of East Timor, because Indonesia does not recognise
the authority of the ICJ.

Following the ICJ verdict, Australia claimed victory over Portugal and then
Foreign Minister Gareth Evans stated publicly that Australia will have access
to Timor Sea oil, without bother from Portugal.

As recently as April this year, Mr Evans, in a submission to a Senate Foreign
Affairs committee inquiry into East Timor, argued that the TGT was not a blow
to the interests and aspirations of the East Timorese for independence. He
also reiterated that the TGT did not attract criticism from the international
community. "There were no General Assembly or Security Council Resolutions
calling on Australia not to ratify the treaty, or indeed even criticising the
treaty," he pointed out.

According to figures presented to the Senate hearing, revenue from the TGT is
currently US$5 million (S$8.4 million) a year and is not expected to exceed
US$100 million. But, industry sources seem to think otherwise.

Australia's giant multinational oil and mining company, BHP, is a major stake
holder in the Timor Gap oil exploration.

BHP, along with US-based Phillips Petroleum Company are developing a natural
gas field off the East Timor coast. The northern Australian port city of
Darwin will become the processing centre for this gas exploration.

In August last year, with the possibility of independence for East Timor in
the offing, BHP's Jakarta representative, Mr Peter Cockroft, made a secret
visit to the notorious Cipinang Prison for an hour-long meeting with the
jailed resistance leader, Mr Xanana Gusmao. He is believed to have been
assured by Mr Gusmao that BHP's petroleum assets off the East Timor coast
would be safe under a post-independence government.

The East Timorese resistance movement has never accepted the legality of the
TGT.

The Indonesian government threatened to expel Mr Cockroft when it found out
about the meeting. At the annual general meeting of BHP shareholders a month
later, Mr Jerry Ellis, the CEO of BHP, said 

Re: [CTRL] Where has all the white gold gone?

1999-09-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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hi, ok guys and gals . ;)

I have it on bad authority that the worlds gold is being laundered through
an ancient smelting process to turn it monoatomic white.
This, my bad authority says, when eaten, is the key to immortality and the
food of the gods/reptoids and republicans.
I am also told by another bad authority that this white gold can also be
used in certain kinds of advanced starship engines ... and perhaps the
stockpiles are being made in preparation for a mass exodus.

The multinational company with the 'immortality' franchise - plans to make
a massive banquet of white gold to have a big store tucked away before some
sort of global disaster strikes - and is channelling it through the
existing factory and capital infrastructure now to maximise the profits
rather than wait and transport  all that heavy stuff to the colonies in
space to process it there
at greater cost.

An entire futuristic industry is being fuelled by monoatomic gold ... and,
well maybe our gold fillings are considered wasted at this moment in time :)
There are probably piles of Moonraker ships waiting to lift off with the
best of the best  and even as we speak, Clinton, Gore and Blair are
tucking into the very substances that will keep them in office for a VERY
long time 

Andrew :)

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Re: [CTRL] Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99NYTimes

1999-09-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

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 We can always hope.
 FWP.

Poley you old bastard, are you still alive? And still wasting
bandspace?

Your old pal,
Chuck U. Farley

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Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece

1999-09-27 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 9/27/99 4:07:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Also was
 given a concoction of veg juices once that worked better
 than any pharmaceutical pain killer for a knee condition I
 have...I was working and the knee tightened up, and a
 homeopath whizzed the stuff up and I have to admit it was
 the most amazing recovery I have ever experienced. 



Just to echo the sage words of Ric...A homeopath offering a veg juice
cocktail is no different than a homeopath offering prednisone or even
surgery...none of these things, though certainly more effective (not
certainly with a veggie drink) have nothing to do with the quackery that is
the basis of so-called "homeopathic medicine"..
Homeopathic medicine, now THERE'S an oxymoron!

Bill.

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