Re: Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread John
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 JY stands for ? Actually, who gives a shit what this idiotic message means. I certainly know that neither myself nor Ceci is the troll(s). Love the ominous tone though ;) John On September 23, 2016 12:23:32 AM EDT, rooty wrote: >You have been w

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread xorcist
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 05:34:05AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > But then, try to live the life of some farmer in 730 a.d. or of a slave > in 2.500 b.c. egypt, or that of a miner in 4.000 b.c. china. > > In fact, we're living in the best possible times humans have ever had. > Surely there

Re: Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 23, 2016 2:14 AM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2016 1:23 AM, "rooty" wrote: > > > > You have been warned - > > Baby troll, baby troll... "sea sea" is just a nick that I've received on this list. Hiii, it's me!!! Ceci = sea sea! Did you understand now? :D Sorry, dear all. "

Re: Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/2016 12:37 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:28:57AM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: >> On 09/23/2016 12:23 AM, rooty wrote: >>> You have been warned - >> >> Not very likely. I give it less than 1% that either of them is >

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Tom
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 05:34:05AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > I'm not sure I agree with that assessment, but even if you could convince > me, it's also then brought us full-circle: nukes. So we haven't really > gained much, by that measure. But then, try to live the life of some farmer in

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread xorcist
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:06:17PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> Greed is a fundamental problem of Capitalism. It is also a fundamental >> problem of Socialism. The Soviet chiefs in the Politburo weren't >> standing >> in the bread lines with everyone else. > > On the other hand, greed is

Re: Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 23, 2016 1:23 AM, "rooty" wrote: > > You have been warned - Baby troll, baby troll... "sea sea" is just a nick that I've received on this list. Hiii, it's me!!! Ceci = sea sea! Did you understand now? :D D'oooh! It's evident I am/was *NOT* the Cypher Piggie. Aff... I don't know ab

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Tom
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:06:17PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > Greed is a fundamental problem of Capitalism. It is also a fundamental > problem of Socialism. The Soviet chiefs in the Politburo weren't standing > in the bread lines with everyone else. On the other hand, greed is the primary

Re: Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:28:57AM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > On 09/23/2016 12:23 AM, rooty wrote: > > You have been warned - > > Not very likely. I give it less than 1% that either of them is the > same as that one. "Trust me." > > On the other hand, he who smelt it may well have dealt it.

Re: Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/2016 12:23 AM, rooty wrote: > You have been warned - Not very likely. I give it less than 1% that either of them is the same as that one. "Trust me." On the other hand, he who smelt it may well have dealt it. :o) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATU

Cypher piggie = JY = sea sea

2016-09-22 Thread rooty
You have been warned -

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Mirimir
On 09/22/2016 07:51 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> >> Right. US military have trained heavily for this scenario, however. > > So? That can actually play to your advantage. With heavy training, comes > assumptions of what to expect, and an ingrained game-plan. If you know > what they expect, you

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread xorcist
> > Right. US military have trained heavily for this scenario, however. So? That can actually play to your advantage. With heavy training, comes assumptions of what to expect, and an ingrained game-plan. If you know what they expect, you simply do something else, and cause confusion. > > Well, to

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Mirimir
On 09/22/2016 05:52 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:12:11AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> They were bloody well fed anti tank and anti aircraft rpgs and the like >> by the USA - that's how they took down the USSR occupation. >> >> >>> Then took their AK47's an

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread xorcist
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:12:11AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > They were bloody well fed anti tank and anti aircraft rpgs and the like > by the USA - that's how they took down the USSR occupation. > > >> Then took their AK47's and repelled NATO. > > Your simplification may be useful to i

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread xorcist
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 08:30:55PM -0700, Razer wrote: > > You cannot eliminate human nature. > > Greed and lust for power are tendencies of human nature. > > But perhaps it is possible to commoditize politics, rather than have > politics be a tool for the wealthy and powerful? > > (How? Good que

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread Mirimir
On 09/22/2016 06:23 AM, John Newman wrote: > >> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: >> 'Quantum Thief' opens with prisoner's dilemma selection. Make numerous >> digital copies, select for copies that cooperate, repeat. >> >> "As always, before the warmind and I shoot each other, I try to

[RUS] Ukraine - the amazing change

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
For anyone following major geopolitical events in the last three years, the following is an amazing shift - from the floor of the parliament of Ukraine. I do feel sad for the people of Ukraine who have suffered immensely as a result of this particular Soros-lead "regime change operation". ** Jul

[WAR] Russia rejects Kerry’s demand for extension of Syrian ceasefire to Al-Qaeda

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
The fact the subject/ article heading can actually be written (by any side of any propaganda/ MSM/ not-so-MSM with a straight and sincere face, is one of the saddest indictments against the Grande Ole USA, where black is now white and Wahhabi extremists are trained, paid and protected where possibl

Re: group ("tribe") authority, and The State legitimacy

2016-09-22 Thread Xer0Dynamite
The argument is simple: there are two entirely rational pressures to transition the planet, two religious prophesies heralding such, and two secular-mystical prophesies for it. That pretty much covers EVERYBODY. There come a time in humanities evolution where individualism (which grew civilizati

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Xer0Dynamite
>> Show me the Law(s) that makes it so. > > Guns make it so. Law enforcement owns about 99.9% of all the military > style weaponry. >[...] > We tried voting. > We tried protesting. 1) The protesting you've tried hasn't utilized the strategy of law, only appeals to emotions. 2) The government still

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
I think this message will make you smile. Received it today. :) Muuaaah! Kisses! :* Ceci = "Three years after Aaron Schwartz's tragic death, the fight for free access to knowledge is far from over. Following Schwartz’s path, Alexandra Elbakyan

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Razer
On 09/22/2016 01:56 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 08:30:55PM -0700, Razer wrote: >> On 09/21/2016 08:15 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: >>> Since Greed is about power, a political revolution has little if >> anything to do with ideology, >> >> There's an ideological difference betw

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread John Newman
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:40:06AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: > > Maybe you can get it through a library. > > Interlibrary loan, works wonders. Openlibrary took me to worldcat which did track the book down to a library thats about 15 miles from me.

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-22 Thread John Newman
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:14:53AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > Apparatus? Please. People have access to a knife, digital camera, > computer, and internet? Right? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract_(software) > https://opensource.com/life/15/9/open-source-extract-text-images > (Anons should s

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: > 'Quantum Thief' opens with prisoner's dilemma selection. Make numerous > digital copies, select for copies that cooperate, repeat. > > "As always, before the warmind and I shoot each other, I try to make > smalltalk." I just grabbed a torrent of

group ("tribe") authority, and The State legitimacy

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
In the mind of the middle of the bell curve, the state has legitimacy in the exercise of its authority, to a fair degree. This perceived legitimacy arises from the group: - the perceived consent of the group/ majority - the input/vote by the "governed" or "controlled" The state loses legitimac

re: open sourcing "criminal" (normally "state") activity

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
> Also, this seems like an example of why 'competing' with the > state, copying the shitty or outright criminal 'services' that > the state provides isn't a good idea. Nice point! I do love your consistent clarity, Juan :) Thanks,

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:43:41AM -0300, juan wrote: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:34:23 -0700 > Razer quoted: > > So… if the 2nd Amendment's "right to revolution" implication is real, > > both practically and legally, it must also include a right to possess > > tanks, jets, rocket launchers, etc. >

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 03:15:40PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > None of this can or should persuade anyone but me that something > damned strange is going on with this "reality" thing. But I was and > remain so persuaded. Now the question is, what does it mean and what > can I do with/to/about it

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 08:30:55PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/21/2016 08:15 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > >Since Greed is about power, a political revolution has little if > anything to do with ideology, > > There's an ideological difference between communism and capitalism. > > Ideally communism sh

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:15:53PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > Which is why we need more revolutions, beginning with establishing > alternative ways of life that reduce or eliminate the role of today's > rulers and the passionately held, completely false Truths they dictate > to our own communitie

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:12:11AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > AK47's are useless? > > The Afghani's repelled the Soviets with manual-action rifles from WWI > and WWIi. They were bloody well fed anti tank and anti aircraft rpgs and the like by the USA - that's how they took down the USSR

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 07:50:09PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/21/2016 06:32 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > The people in those Crown Colonies that became United States started > > refusing to pay taxes and surcharges, ignoring the orders of Crown > > authorities, and constructing their own systems

Fw: Activist DESTROYS 19 Red Light Cameras and Turns Himself In

2016-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Hawaii's red light and fixed "speeding" cameras had to be decomissioned not so long after launch - this is where Australia's first batch of traffic cameras came from, the ex-Hawaii cams :/ In America, the ability to just shoot out a traffic camera is easier in general since carrying firearms is q