Re: Literature

or US into something evil - also describes the same effects within companies. Does anybody here got other must reads on society or politics?  I always liked Orwell's 1984 and "Animal Farm."   And Atlas Shrugged.               Jim Bell

Re: How to act in self defense - concealed carry saves the day

No, you made comments on my posting, but you ignored certain parts, including my question about how you distinguish between "fascists" and "conservatives".   Says a lot.  You are aware that you still haven't explained how you distinguish that.                 Jim Bell

Re: Hackers Disable Door Locks at Four-Star Hotel, Demand/Get Bitcoin Ransom

, but I think that's obvious.        Jim Bell

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant

reasonable and nondiscriminatory.Notes1 Linmark Associates, Inc. v. Township of Willingboro, 431 U.S. 85 (1977). From: jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> To: Joshua Case <jwc...@gmail.com>; "cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Sent: Thursday,

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant

kind of Socratic dialogue (link to sheitbart article)" https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/827260921915461633 "Undocumented" makes it sound like these people just left their driver's licenses back in Mexico.              Jim Bell

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant

at speech, violates the Constitution. ×               Jim Bell From: Joshua Case <jwc...@gmail.com> To: jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> Cc: "cypherpu...@cpunks.org" <cypherpu...@cpunks.org> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Statement from a Berk

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant

.           Jim Bell From: Joshua Case <jwc...@gmail.com> Jim- come on It's only confusing or vague if you're pretending to be in a court. I know you did your time in the system, as did I, but out here you don't have to defend your opinion from statute. -Joshua > On Feb 2, 2

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant

a federal crime to cross state lines to incite violence.", you need to cite specific precedent which applies your choice of terms, "incite violence" to a 1st-Amendment guaranteed speech.   As per Brandenburg v. Ohio, you are on very thin rhetorical ice.              Jim Bell Fro

Re: How to act in self defense - concealed carry saves the day

markably similar to dictatorships of the right. Stop thinking that you can justify physically attacking people just because they have thoughts, or express ideas, that you don't like.  Lest they decide that it's okay to do the same thing to you.  "Golden Rule".             Jim Bell   ×

Re: How to act in self defense - concealed carry saves the day

From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> On 02/01/2017 08:34 PM, jim bell wrote: From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> James A. Donald asked a stupid question: >>You're right. I listened to my German Jewish elders who survived I believe a >>proactive response is not only ap

Re: How to act in self defense - concealed carry saves the day

I wish you'd have been able to answer this question.[end] To Razer and his ilk, a  "Nazi", or "fascist",  is simply a person more-rightward than [fill in the blank], where that "fill in the blank" is probably a leftist.            Jim Bell

Re: Trump will NEVER turn America into a White nation!

From: juan <juan@gmail.com> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 05:45:21 + (UTC) jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: juan <juan@gmail.com> >  To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org >  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:41 PM >  Subject: Re: Trump

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant

No, they can't.  And don't call me Shirley!!!                 Jim Bell From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant That's right. Schools have

Re: change.org "declare antifa illegal/terrorist" petition

ists", but at least they have a different word for their ideas.   I think Razer, who was completely unwilling to define the difference between a mere conservative, and a "fascist", is displaying the same kind of obscure inconsistency in meaning.                Jim Bell

Re: change.org "declare antifa illegal/terrorist" petition

From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> On 02/05/2017 12:07 PM, jim bell wrote: I think Razer, who was completely unwilling to define the difference between a mere conservative, and a "fascist", is displaying the same kind of obscure inconsistency in meaning.        

Re: "Antifascists Have Become the Most Reasonable People in America”

ad virtually nothing to do with the sloppy and overbroad brush that you, Razer, paint with.   Dingell's "Nazis" actually CLAIMED to be Nazis, were proud of that characterization, they invaded countries, gassed people, etc, and were not merely people who wanted the country to break with its 8

Re: "Antifascists Have Become the Most Reasonable People in America”

sed the term, 'governing forces', you probably assumed forces which employed violations of NAP.  But if you expanded your definition of 'governing forces' to include NOT violating NAP, perhaps you can see a common ground where both "libertarians" and "anarchists" can be satisfied.               Jim Bell ×

Re: Jewish fear

rting" it?  There's a lot of nonsense on CP recently that I don't respond to; I was not aware that I am being graded.             Jim Bell

Re: Standup Comedy it was! Audio of 9th Circuit oral arguments in re Donald Trump's attempt to revive #MuslimBan

; shows Dolan's foolish misunderstanding of the relevance of that discussion.   Try again.             Jim Bell http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-live-updates-9th-circuit-arguments-hold-government-urges-judges-to-at-1486505986-htmlstory.html Rr On 02/07/2017 06:12 PM, jim bell wro

Re: Standup Comedy it was! Audio of 9th Circuit oral arguments in re Donald Trump's attempt to revive #MuslimBan

lower-court level.  However, the appeals court panel should probably declare that the plaintiffs don't have standing, and thus order the lower court to throw out the case, at least until plaintiffs with standing appear.            Jim Bell >From the Wikipedia article I cited above: "In the

Re: [WAR] Fukushima conspiracy theories and facts

round motion of a magnitude 6.8 earthquake.A magnitude 9.0 earthquake should have 31**2.2, or 1910, the energy released compared to a magnitude 6.8 earthquake.          Jim Bell

Re: change.org "declare antifa illegal/terrorist" petition

From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> On 02/05/2017 01:21 PM, jim bell wrote: >>If your working definition (or, at least example) of a "fascist" is a person >>who wants to completely shut down the Internet, I doubt whether >>this >>collection of people exce

Re: Trump will NEVER turn America into a White nation!

From: juan <juan@gmail.com> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:07:07 + (UTC) jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I believe the correct libertarian position is no > > GOVERNMENT borders.  Not no borders at all.   > >   >  Borders are by defintion a creat

Re: WTC [WAS] Do you have predictions about 2017?

From: juan <juan@gmail.com> jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: >  From: grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com>   > >Rather amazed AP hasn't yet risen (publicly) to affect things. >> No disagreement from me on that!  When I proposed AP almost 22 years >&

Re: WTC [WAS] Do you have predictions about 2017?

ey merely want the continuation of the status quo.   They want their kind of people in control.  And when they get upset, it is only because they are losing control.         Jim Bell

Re: Indiana bill would allow police to shut down protests 'by any means necessary'

ill could have been a coordinated (informally) arrangement.  With plausible deniability, of course!             Jim Bell ×

Re: Global warming/climate change

of "global warming".          Jim Bell

peaceful sweden

Riot breaks out in Stockholm suburb Trump referred to in speech http://dailym.ai/2kHpXaZ via http://dailym.ai/android Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

>and watch less TV.  It would be much better for him and the rest of the world.  >  I hope you are using that "your President" term in the most generic sense, as in 'Jim Bell is American, so Trump is his president".   I voted for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate.  

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

had wanted to mean "terrorism", he is smart enough to have used the term.  He didn't. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2709224/two-afghan-migrants-revealed-as-those-arrested-over-horrific-three-hour-rape-streamed-on-facebook-live-in-sweden/ ×        Jim Bell

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

t. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4243442/Sweden-suffering-migrant-crime-wave-says-cop.html ×   But you need to define what YOU refer to when you mean "crime wave".           Jim Bell

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

From: juan To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?' On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:08:26 +1000 "James A. Donald" wrote: > Reality

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

pes last year (7,537) than all of Sweden (5,920) >Sources here: https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/833885835242016772 I wonder what that tells us about the demographics of Orlando vs. Sweden?  (I'd say more, but it wouldn't be Politically Correct.)              Jim Bell

I'm in Acapulco Mexico.

I will be speaking Monday morning at Anarchapulco convention.

I'm in acapulco, will speak at Anarcapulo convention

Will speak Monday morning. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Kim case:. Not vx only.

I don't think the assassins used only VX in the Kim case.  VX is not fast enough, alone, to explain events as the were reported. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: I'm in acapulco, will speak at Anarcapulo convention

Correction:. I speak on stage B, Tuesday, 11:30-12:10. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:49, jim bell<jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: Will speak Monday morning. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

10 judges are nuts.

Court rules assault weapons are not protected under Constitution http://dailym.ai/2mmUuqG via http://dailym.ai/android Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

kind of wacky misinterpretation  by the lamestream media which is further destroying their credibility.           Jim Bell ×

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> On 02/20/2017 03:04 PM, jim bell wrote: > The biased lying MSM chose a specific classification, "terrorism", as > if Trump had specifically said it. >Show me an MSM headline, with link to the article, or any copy from an MSM article an

Re: Twitter working on identifying permanently suspended users...

From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> On 02/12/2017 11:45 PM, jim bell wrote: But I'm still waiting for a  definition of "harassment".  Do you have your own?                Jim Bell >What Juan and Zen do is a kind of a 'harassment' according to most >modera

Do as I say, not as I do...

http://pcwatch.blogspot.com/

Re: Happy Black History Month! Missouri KKK leader Dead, Jim...

/04/24/olathe-honda-owner-gets-confused-with-kkk-leader.html           Jim Bell

Re: Net Result of Snowden

ed signal strength for that cell phone, to a resolution much better than the usual 5-bar display.            Jim Bell, N7IJS  ("World's Last Tech-Plus Ham")

"Left Attacks ACLU for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos’ Right to Free Speech"

http://observer.com/2017/02/aclu-defends-breitbart-milo-yiannopoulos-free-speech/ [partial quote follows] "On February 1, Breitbart technology editor and right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to speak at the University of California-Berkeley. Students at the university

Man jailed for refusing to reveal passwords.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/justice-naps-man-jailed-16-months-for-refusing-to-reveal-passwords/ Francis Rawls, a former Philadelphia police sergeant, has been in the Philadelphia Federal Detention Center for more than 16 months. His crime: the fired police officer has been

Re: Twitter working on identifying permanently suspended users, preventing them from creating new accts

word, "harass"?Contradict?  Disprove?  Argue against?  Make unhappy?   Is Twitter going to adopt a consistent policy that political statements aren't allowed?           Jim Bell

Re: Twitter working on identifying permanently suspended users...

From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> On 02/12/2017 05:16 PM, jim bell wrote: From: Razer <g...@riseup.net> >>>Accounts created specifically to harass. But they aren't saying how: >>> https://blog.twitter.com/2017/an-update-on-safety >>&

Re: change.org "declare antifa illegal/terrorist" petition

l "Justice Department".  Similarly, Berkeley-level riots might also provoke a reaction.              Jim Bell

NY Post: It only took five seconds for assassins to kill Kim Jong Nam

Jim Bell's guess: hydrogen cyanide. (Hydrocyanic acid) It only took five seconds for assassins to kill Kim Jong Nam http://nyp.st/2kOmYtb For more on the New York Post and to download our apps, visit NYPost.com Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: Net Result of Snowden

From: Beaker Meeps <bea...@dropperbox.com> On 2/14/2017 2:04 PM, jim bell wrote: > *From:* Ryan Carboni <rya...@gmail.com> > >>I have written down so notes on the movie. Also, my cell phone works > fine in the microwave. > > You might be very near a cell-phon

Re: The "60 Year War"

for decades.'Machines' by Lothar and the Hand Peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDUFaRiUwsk 'Mr. Roboto' by Styx.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cShYbLkhBc Any more I've missed?               Jim Bell

Re: 10 judges are nuts.

From: Ben Tasker <b...@bentasker.co.uk> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 1:37 PM, jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: Court rules assault weapons are not protected under Constitution http://dailym.ai/2mmUuqG via http://dailym.ai/android I'm no fan of the US's view on firearms, bu

Re: 10 judges are nuts.

From: Marina Brown <catskillmar...@gmail.com> On 02/23/2017 08:13 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 02/23/2017 05:40 PM, Razer wrote: >> >> >> On 02/23/2017 01:04 PM, Mirimir wrote: >>> On 02/23/2017 08:38 AM, Razer wrote: >>>> >>>> On 02

Anarchapulco Presentation

Went very well.  My speech will probably be posted on their website in a few days.                Jim Bell

Re: Security error leaves 760 gigs on NY airport servers unprotected for a year

nt's supposed 'protection'.  If this outrage were done in private industry, at least we would have the freedom to go elsewhere.            Jim Bell

Re: Philosophokiddies

  Don't pretend I didn't.   With all of the advances in technology that have occurred since 1995, or even 1980, why should you assume that technology shouldn't develop a better form of government.                   Jim Bell

Re: Philosophokiddies

From: jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> From: Stephen D. Williams <s...@lig.net> On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com> wrote: I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for some

Re: [WAR] If Hillary Becomes USA President, Will We Have a Nuclear War?

was that in 1964, Lyndon Johnson was busy getting usinto the Vietnam war, in which about 55,000 American soldiers died, and who knows howmany Vietnamese.                Jim Bell From: Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> Who is most likely to start WW3? Trump is an unknown to some

Re: The Unsettling Relationship Between Russia and Wikileaks

are back in the spotlight, roiling the >geopolitical landscape with new disclosures and a promise of more to >come. And I hope they hurry up with all the leaks that they can muster, as early as possible.              Jim Bell

Re: Philosophokiddies

From: Stephen D. Williams <s...@lig.net> On 9/6/16 9:01 PM, jim bell wrote: We should be trashing *all* politicians including, of course, putin. But again, a fair amount of people in this list hysterically disagree with the idea of getting rid of polit

Re: Philosophokiddies

From: Stephen D. Williams <s...@lig.net> On 9/8/16 9:32 AM, jim bell wrote: I didn't comment about it.  The Purge movies always remind me of AP.  Not the same, but related. http://www.thepurgemovie.co.uk/ >My preference is to consider ideas that are likely to improve th

Re: Permutations to scalars and back again.

osely related to those of an LFSR."[end of quote]            Jim Bell × From: James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:09 PM Subject: Permutations to scalars and back again. I need to be able to do two of the

Re: Free speech - front lines in Australia - [perso...@bernardgaynor.com.au: Update: battle for free speech]

Sounds like Australia needs the equivalent of America's First Amendment guarantees of freedom of speech and press.But then again, that's the same problem Britain has:  They don't have a written Constitution.          Jim Bell From: Nadine Earnshaw <nad...@iinet.net.au> To: cyphe

Hillary Clinton suggested drone strike on Julian Assange in 2010

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/clinton-assange-wikileaks-drone/2016/10/04/id/751517/                Jim Bell "Hey, this is terrific!  It means we really must be on to something, if they're trying to kill us!"   Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 3, part 1.     At:  9

yahoo sux

Yahoo secretly scanned customer emails for US intelligence-sources http://dailym.ai/2dOI1gj via http://dailym.ai/android Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

From: Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 02:26 +0000, jim bell wrote: >> Generally speaking, American Federal laws are not applicable outside >> the United States (and its territories) unless the law explicitly says >> so.  The term is

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

violation of the requirements of the subpoena/court order.   Since a corporation generally is entitled to communicate information to its employees (who may not be in the U.S., or ever were in the U.S.), that's a powerful tool to launch the relevant information beyond the jurisdiction of the court.              Jim Bell

Re: [RUS] USA media meltdown (e.g. "It's Official: Hillary Clinton Is Running Against Vladimir Putin")

hat even in the most severely affected patients, something can be done. If not by way of recovering their language, by way of making life more tolerable and more fun."[end of partial quote]          Jim Bell

Re: Fwd: [cryptome] Wifi Hotspots Must have Users Identity and Password

Can the name of the network be "Password is password"? From: Александр To: CypherPunks Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 3:20 AM Subject: Fwd: [cryptome] Wifi Hotspots Must have Users Identity and Password How nice... Enjoy. >

Re: Fwd: [cryptome] Wifi Hotspots Must have Users Identity and Password

From: Александр <afalex...@gmail.com> 2016-09-17 21:06 GMT+03:00 jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com>: Can the name of the network be "Password is password"? >Hold a second, Jim...i'm on the phone with the senior judge from the European >Court now. Well, th

Re: Immunity for Hillary's staff?

From: Razer <ray...@riseup.net> On 10/03/2016 12:25 AM, jim bell quotes wall street: > Only here’s the rub: When Ms. Mills worked at the State Department she was > not acting as Mrs. Clinton’s personal lawyer. She was the secretary's chief > of staff. Any interaction with Mrs

This REALLY stinks! Agreement to destroy laptops of Hillary staff given immunity.

ave to get?  Hillary's staff is thoroughly, completely corrupt.  And now, seemingly shamelessly so.  And government organizations are being brought into play solely to assist them. Prosecute ALL of them.  Convict ALL of them.  Jail ALL of them for the rest of their worthless lives.            Jim Bell

Re: Attempt to re-create and test Hillary's email server for security?

-street-lab.html            Jim Bell × From: Cari Machet <carimac...@gmail.com> To: jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> Cc: cpunks <cypherpu...@cpunks.org> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Attempt to re-create and test Hillary's email server for security

Attempt to re-create and test Hillary's email server for security?

.  But whether anybody succeeded, I don't know.  It would be useful to actually show that such a server could be successfully hacked.             Jim Bell Here's an example of discussion of study of her server, mostly in order to retrieve or re-create the seemingly lost emails.  What

Immunity for Hillary's staff?

left the State Department. Ergo, no questions about the server.   [end of partial quote]              Jim Bell

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

o only have been opened in 2013, presumably it isn't the first such data storage bank, so Hillary's missing emails should be findable somewhere.              Jim Bell

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

From: Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 01:13 +0000, jim bell wrote: >> http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done-reports-julian-assange-s-announcement-tuesday-will-finish >> "Is it the October surprise? >> MSNBC’

Re: You could (will be) replaced by a robot coder

at they were actually two clones of yet another "Sam Bell".)            Jim Bell

Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!

From: Georgi Guninski <gunin...@guninski.com>On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 07:58:01AM +0000, jim bell wrote:>> What a relief!!!Thank heavens for leaks!!! >>         Jim Bell >I am not feeling for the bitch at all. But votes based on hatred (i.e. >choose the more delicio

Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!

"Chaos" is not identical to "change".  Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change.            Jim Bell From: Razer <ray...@riseup.net> +10 Addenda: Americans are confused. They mistake chaos for change. On 11/

Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!

From: Razer <ray...@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!! On 11/09/2016 11:13 AM, jim bell wrote: >"Chaos" is not identical to "change".  Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to

Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!

100%.  If the minority candidates choose the opposite position, the net result will be 50-45-5=0:  There will be no net vote from that state.                      Jim Bell

Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!

What a relief!!!Thank heavens for leaks!!!         Jim Bell

Re: US: Post Election Protests

n which they would have to be paid.   > But other than that...\ "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"         Jim Bell

Re: US: Post Election Protests

500,000 for a judge.   Or perhaps a reward of $100,000 > for each juror who participated in such a trial, and voted for > acquittal, where the outcome was such that a retrial would be > impossible, or at least did not occur.    Such rewards could become > very high, in large part because there would rarely be legal cases in > which they would have to be paid.   > > > But other than that...\ > > "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?" >         Jim Bell > >   

Re: US: Post Election Protests

nged.  Do her supporters actually believe that the only problem is the exposure of her, rather than her underlying behavior?         Jim Bell

Re: US: Post Election Protests

system that claims that it has the "horsepower" to stop such slaughter.    If anything, the only criticisms I have heard of AP is that it would be TOO effective, not that it would not be powerful enough to get rid of the governments that kill.  (And, ultimately, ALL governments.)                 Jim Bell

Re: Intercept Greenwald Klein Talk Waffling Full Disclosure

youtube.com/watch?v=y0X0ZYbnHxA  I'd say that if the Republicans have as much to be leaked as the Democrats have, so far, "Let's go!  Leak it!"   Let the chips fall where they may!   The American public should be utterly aghast at this kind of thinking, by Klein and Rubio.              Jim Bell

Re: Astonishing Lie by Hillary regarding Trump "Choke"

f the criticism of Trump is utter biased, misleading NONSENSE.   That still doesn't make him a "desireable" candidate, but Hillary's supporters are desperately grasping at straws to help her.                     Jim Bell On Oct 21, 2016, at 4:22 AM, jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: I'm really flo

Re: "You have to legalize drugs to win that war [on drugs]." - Trump

Party":   "Green on the outside, and Red on the inside".     https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/05/green-party-conference-natalie-bennett         Jim Bell

Re: Why Cypherpunks Shouldn't Vote for the system of their own oppression

ple's relationships and interactions with other people.  A Libertarian may believe that a small government is tolerable, and maybe still necessary; other libertarians may believe that a stable anarchy is possible.  (As I now do.)            Jim Bell

Re: Why Cypherpunks Shouldn't Vote for the system of their own oppression

I'm not going to be drawn into Juan's nonsense.         Jim Bell From: juan <juan@gmail.com> To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Why Cypherpunks Shouldn't Vote for the system of their own oppression On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17

Re: Waffling On Full Disclosure: Lawrence Lessig, Steven Levy

"  Proving that Lessig is dumber, and even more solidly entrenched in THE ESTABLISHMENT, than we previously believed.  These people are crazy and biased.              Jim Bell

Corrupt Hillary's position on Encryption.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/video/leaked-emails-suggest-cozy-relationship-09345.html [Don't worry:  Hillary always has a PUBLIC position and a PRIVATE position.]            Jim Bell

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

From: Steve Kinney <ad...@pilobilus.net> On 11/21/2016 10:02 AM, Razer wrote: > On 11/20/2016 09:49 PM, jim bell wrote: >> Oh!  I see you are justifying robbing people based on the mere >> assertion that they can 'afford' it. > > >> No. I justify it on th

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

From: juan <juan@gmail.com> On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:11:11 + (UTC) jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > Steve Kinney <ad...@pilobilus.net> >> > In the United States, 500 >> > billionaires presently own about 1/2 of the capital assets;

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

From: Steve Kinney <ad...@pilobilus.net>On 11/21/2016 01:11 PM, jim bell wrote: >> In the United States, 500 > billionaires presently own about 1/2 of the capital assets; > > Did they obtain them legally or illegally?  If illegally, enforce > the law.  If legally, chan

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

From: Razer <ray...@riseup.net> On 11/21/2016 07:35 PM, jim bell wrote: From: Razer <ray...@riseup.net> On 11/21/2016 12:49 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: THIS! "Libertarians see absolutely nothing wrong with the very rich "gaming the system" for pers

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

on got 4 percent of the vote this year, far more than the 1% which libertarians have had to settle for in previous years. For a "propaganda platform", they did pretty well!! "as far as it is able. If you are too smart for the RNC, the Libertarians have a better idea - and the same domest

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