Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 16, 2016 6:30 AM, "Cari Machet"  wrote:
>
> We have male and female aspects of our own selves and also in there in
our psyche and spirit  

Dear Cari,

Sorry for the bad joke/confession, but in the beginning, I thought it was
very ridiculous when someone mentioned that I could be a "man" using a
"fake profile", because of my "masculine comments".

But after receiving in private some nasty, disgusting and cruel messages, I
discovered my inner male feelings:

-  All the times when I read some really unfair and aggressive message, my
middle fingers have a powerful boner.  Stupid messages are a potent Viagra
for my middle fingers, hahaha!!  ;D

Kisses of your fool and crazy Ceci!  Wish you a lovely day!  :D

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

My lovely Cari,

Hope you and all your loved ones be blessed in this lovely day.  Thanks a
lot for your sincere kindness!  <3

I am not Muslim, but I live next to a Mosque and already studied and worked
with Muslims.  All I had seem in all these years is respect, honor and
tolerance.  I respect them very much.

I am very proud of living in the center of my city, next to Catholic
Churches, Budhist Temples, Spiritualist Houses, Mosques, Synagogues and
several other religious places.  It is very beautiful to see the faith, the
eternal human search for answers.

Sorry for my bad comportament in the list.  I am not so vain or cruel.  I
received some disgusting messages and was provoking my haters, but the
manicure story was true, hihi!  :)

One of my voluntary works with female transgenders is teaching them how to
use make up, making their own manicure, feel secure using high wheels...
It seems futile for most of the people, but they are very fragile, still
working their self esteem, learning how to show to the world their gender,
to express themselves.  I cried a lot when I see one of them feeling more
beautiful, more feminine, absolutely amazing just because of a baby pink
lipstick.  :)

Sometimes, I receive some beauty products  (make up, nail polishes,
shampoos, creams, etc)  to test new brands and write reviews to beauty
sites and blogs.  I was very good at it, but I always am only a ghost
writer and a ghost model for hands and feet, haha!!  ;)

I use most of the products with "my girls" or donate some little kits to
asylums.  Older women like to feel more "colored", more beautiful too.  I
like the idea of working with their self esteem, to remember them how
beautiful they are, how beautiful and colored the world is.  They are
living flowers.  It's a simple thing, but they feel more motived to walking
and making exercises, to fight against their depression and eventual health
problems.  :)

Now, after healing of this new worst pneumonia and discover what's
happening in my work  (money troubles, money troubles everywhere!),  I want
to make some work with the refugees living in my city, teaching a bit more
of Portuguese to the children.

The kids are so smart, so amazing!  They learn everything so fast and just
want to be happy, to study, to hug the other children.  They saw what means
a war, so they love the peace, they love to play...  All the meals for them
are great, even the simplest ones, because they were starving when arrived
here...  :(

One of my friends is a Japanese girl, some years older than me.  When she
arrived in my country, she had the same problems that my parents had.  She
only knowed the Japanese language.  One day, in the school, with 5 years
old, she needed to go to the bathroom and didn't know how to say it in
Portuguese.
She made her necessities in the class, crying, feeling humiliated,
listening to the laugh of the other students, because her teacher screamed
several times with her, asking to return to the chair and she didn't
understood anything.

I don't want these poor children suffer the same bullying that my parents,
their friends and my friend suffered.  My French is old garbage, I don't
speak Crioulo, but well, I can learn their languages and they can learn
Portuguese...  And after, with more time and $resource$, programming
languages too!  :)

I promise I will treat myself better, my dear Cari.  Thank you.  Please,
take care of yourself with tenderness too!  :*

Kisses and hugs from Brazil!  <3

Ceci

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cari Machet]

So its not muslims that treat women like crap really so much its more
everyone ... men women children ... infants ... thats the culture all
around and this list isnt living in a bubble

We have male and female aspects of our own selves and also in there in our
psyche and spirit we treat the female like crap

Lets not even talk about how "mother earth" is treated

Why? Lotsa reasons mostly infantile but it needs to shift and we can all do
our part

Please ask yourselves questions about your behavior and let the ego sit by
itself for 10 seconds of your life

I am connected to a domestic violence organization & there are problems
they work to help solve all over the world ... not just the middle east so
... you have a mirror whoever or whatever you are? Because by stating
things about muslims is just a reflection of state policy directives so
where are YOU ? I know your in there somewhere

I am also calling out cici here ... please treat yourself better

On Oct 15, 2016 4:11 AM, "rooty"  wrote:



Hi sea sea honey.- Muslim's are know to treat their women like shit -
please run away to America the land of the free.




 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 9:40 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:


On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:46:51 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> >
> > global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you
> > are not even using the correct scam terminology : global warming
> >
>
>
> Global warming is not a hoax.


global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax...



>
>
>
> >> This list is less than useless.
> >
> > translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
> > there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so
> > who knows.
> >
>
>
> Translation: completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion,
> this one included.


So, why do you bother with it, and with your world-reheating
'science'?


>
>
>
> > Anyway, I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
> > Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing
> > list.
> >
>
>
> What’s your problem with the crypto list?

I made it quite clear why that list is a cesspool =) - Check
today's archives.


> Too much technical talk?

third-rate, nerdy, pseudo-technical talk. Pretty much useless.
Or more correctly, pretty useful as far as not dealing with
fundamental issues goes. A collection of useful 'idiots'. Not
idiots of course but fully corrupt clowns.



> Not enough Russian propaganda?


Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is usually
100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least brings
some variety to the table.

But I can understand how russian propaganda would upset a few
people in this list...




>
>
>
> John

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[rooty]

Hi sea sea honey.- Muslim's are know to treat their women like shit - please 
run away to America the land of the free.




 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 9:40 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:46:51 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> >
> > global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you
> > are not even using the correct scam terminology : global warming
> >
>
>
> Global warming is not a hoax.


global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax...



>
>
>
> >> This list is less than useless.
> >
> > translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
> > there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so
> > who knows.
> >
>
>
> Translation: completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion,
> this one included.


So, why do you bother with it, and with your world-reheating
'science'?


>
>
>
> > Anyway, I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
> > Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing
> > list.
> >
>
>
> What’s your problem with the crypto list?

I made it quite clear why that list is a cesspool =) - Check
today's archives.


> Too much technical talk?

third-rate, nerdy, pseudo-technical talk. Pretty much useless.
Or more correctly, pretty useful as far as not dealing with
fundamental issues goes. A collection of useful 'idiots'. Not
idiots of course but fully corrupt clowns.



> Not enough Russian propaganda?


Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is usually
100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least brings
some variety to the table.

But I can understand how russian propaganda would upset a few
people in this list...




>
>
>
> John

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 4:22 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your
aroma or I'll commit suicide" 

Hahaha!!!  Sorry, the idea is pretty fun.  "Or you let me bury my face in
your lap, or I'll commit suicide!"  Hahaha!!!  It's a direct threat much
better than yours, baby!  Hahaha!!!  ;D

Considering that my face is in Sao Paulo and your astonishing odorous lap
is in New York, it would not be very practical, Razer, hahaha!!!  ;D

Hey, please, may you make me a favour?  Stop creating fake accounts to
annoy me, saying bullshit and to leave the list.  Cyber bullying is very
childish.  Please, spend your free time in something more useful, more
constructive to the world.

It was interesting to discover today that you are _NOT_ able of compassion
and kindness when you see someone suffering.  Talking about Human Rights on
a mailing list or twitter is very easy.  Being really human is not, Razer.
Very contraditory talking so much about Human Rights and say to a person
dies, asking them to suicide, right after humiliating them in public
several times.  It's cruel.

Someday, I certainly will die, but not because I didn't buried my face in
your lap, hahaha!!!  ;D

Take care, fool guy.  Kisses in your fabulous yummy lap, hahaha!!!  ;D

Ceci, the pervert who attacks male laps...  Run to the mountains, all the
men with delicious manly musky laps!  :D

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 12:00 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.
> 
> You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.
> 
> 
> 


Stupidly ambivalent. Explain how posting an UNWANTED AND UNSOLICITED
EMAIL violates the right to privacy of someone whose contact wasn't
requested or desired after they were repeatedly informed of that?

I've received emails that say "Please don't repost this info" or "For
your eyes only" or something to that effect from KNOWN contacts and I
HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE violated that trust.

Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your
aroma or I'll commit suicide" (a conflation) emails despite my request
they stop? Sorry asscrack. FAIR GAME.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:



> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 11:51 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 11:46 -0600, Mirimir wrote:
>> On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>>> No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting.
>>> Something to think about.
>>>
>>> Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste,
>>> even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as
>>> this one was.
>>
>> Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good
>> thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.
> 
> My points with that statement about a moderator were:
> 1. The original should never have been posted. 
> 2. An unmoderated list means the participants themselves are supposed to
> moderate their postings, and because posts like the original are making
> it on to the list anyway, clearly this is failing.

Clearly.

> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list
> to begin with, such as the explicit garbage clearly never intended for
> public consumption which I was originally replying to?

Those are my values.

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[John Newman]

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Razer  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/14/2016 10:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>> Reposting email clearly intended to be private
> 
> 
> Spam mail is intended to be private too. So I shouldn't pass that info
> on to a sysadmin or other person who might be spammed due to, let's say,
> hijacked address book?
> 
> IOW You ARE NOT MAKING A VALID POINT!
> 
> I did not request the emails, I did not originate the conversations at
> any point. I attempted to SEVERELY DISSUADE THE PERSON from sending
> them. Suicide threats from someone I don't know?
> 
> Fuck that. Go kill yourself. There are people trying desperately to live
> and dying for no good reason and I'm going to worry about unsolicited
> suicide notes from someone I don't even know?
> 
> Maybe I should feel sorry for that esquire from Nigeria who wants to
> deposit money in my bank account because he's being hounded by his
> government too?
> 
> Your idea of "Private" is perverse and dysfunctional. "She" ('her'
> recent spew before subsiding was very masculine in nature) has been
> sending this garbage to a few other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS whose emails

None of these other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS has seen fit to broadcast a private 
message over and over.


> she only knows because this list is so fucking unsecured it passes your

So "unsecured" ?  How do you suggest the list be "secured"?  



John


> email on to... whomever. Spam email harvesters etc.
> 
> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.
> 
> Hugs and kisses... I'd like to be in your lap right now...
> 
> Crap.
> 
> Rr
> 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:02:04 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:

> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 15:07 -0300, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
> > "Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> > > list to begin with, 
> > 
> > 
> > Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick
> > #$%&#$%&# propaganda, for instance. 
> 
> Moderation, not censorship. There is a huge difference.


'Moderation' is censorship.  You should at least have the
decency of not stabbing people in the back and be honest about
your despicabla true intentions. Of course, trying to openly
stab people is a lot riskier.

It's not hard to see that you are a vocal advocate of
censorship. So you can take off your fucking, transparent, mask.

Oh, and you also get to rewrite my mesages? +) - I once thought
your posts were sarcasm. It's obvious now that you are the god
of unintentional self-parody.





> 

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[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 10:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> Reposting email clearly intended to be private


Spam mail is intended to be private too. So I shouldn't pass that info
on to a sysadmin or other person who might be spammed due to, let's say,
hijacked address book?

IOW You ARE NOT MAKING A VALID POINT!

I did not request the emails, I did not originate the conversations at
any point. I attempted to SEVERELY DISSUADE THE PERSON from sending
them. Suicide threats from someone I don't know?

Fuck that. Go kill yourself. There are people trying desperately to live
and dying for no good reason and I'm going to worry about unsolicited
suicide notes from someone I don't even know?

Maybe I should feel sorry for that esquire from Nigeria who wants to
deposit money in my bank account because he's being hounded by his
government too?

Your idea of "Private" is perverse and dysfunctional. "She" ('her'
recent spew before subsiding was very masculine in nature) has been
sending this garbage to a few other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS whose emails
she only knows because this list is so fucking unsecured it passes your
email on to... whomever. Spam email harvesters etc.

I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

Hugs and kisses... I'd like to be in your lap right now...

Crap.

Rr

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[rooty]

hi hi jaun ;-






 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 10:59 AM, juan wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:


> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> list to begin with,


Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt
propaganda, for instance.


> such as the explicit garbage clearly never
> intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?
>

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 15:07 -0300, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
> "Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> > list to begin with, 
> 
> 
>   Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick #$%&#$%&#
>   propaganda, for instance. 

Moderation, not censorship. There is a huge difference.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:


> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> list to begin with, 


Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt
propaganda, for instance. 


> such as the explicit garbage clearly never
> intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?
> 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 11:46 -0600, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> > No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting.
> > Something to think about.
> > 
> > Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste,
> > even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as
> > this one was.
> 
> Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good
> thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.

My points with that statement about a moderator were:
1. The original should never have been posted. 
2. An unmoderated list means the participants themselves are supposed to
moderate their postings, and because posts like the original are making
it on to the list anyway, clearly this is failing.

Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list
to begin with, such as the explicit garbage clearly never intended for
public consumption which I was originally replying to?

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:
>> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital #$%&#'?
>>
>> Some people like 'em nuts.
>>
>>
>> I'm not interested.
> 
> No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting.
> Something to think about.
> 
> Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste,
> even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as
> this one was.

Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good
thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital #$%&#'?
> 
> Some people like 'em nuts.
> 
> 
> I'm not interested.

No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting.
Something to think about.

Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste,
even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as
this one was.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[juan]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:34:59 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> 
> An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
> encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
> writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
> and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
> descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
> cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."
> 
> No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  


Right. That tells you exactly what gilmore stands for. His EFF
was already and correctly seen as corrupt and useless 20 years
ago - check the archives of gilmore's original, 'own' cypherpunk
mailing list. 

Also, the amount of effort needed to learn what kind of
textbook example of unintentional self-pardoy the 'cryptography'
mailing list is, is very low. Just spend ten minutes reading the
pseudo technical garbage that gets posted to that fully censored
cesspool =)





> 
> Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/
> 
> 
> John

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[xorcist]

> It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to ...

Lulz

> Or the psychological stalking by

Translation: When you call him on lies and bullshit, it's 'psychological
stalking'

..thats so full of win, I'm going to start using that. Outright lie, and
when called on it 'Hey, don't psychologically stalk me, that's rude.'

Fuck me the world is doomed.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Whoops!  Sorry, just read it now.

On Oct 14, 2016 1:30 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> Women are perfectly capable of defending their own honor.

Agreed.  Razer is correct.  I am completely able of defending my honor by
myself.  I didn't ask for any help or sympathy.

Now, let's talking about cryptography and coding, please?

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 10:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>>
>> Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.
>>
> 
> Not two minutes before you sent the above quoted message, you posted a
> message saying your reply would be the last in thread. Obviously not.
> 
> But whatever. Uhm -- No, not fishing at all.  Maybe you are a senile
> 71-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously garbage.
> 
> In our first interaction on this list you made a ridiculous claim that you
> were being profiled by the government. In your words, paraphrased, since
> before they were really using computers, when things were being done with
> paper and punch cards.
> 
> As I pointed out in a private message to you, which you also then posted
> publicly here, punch cards were phased out in the 1960s.
> 
> If you were a well-connected extremely rabid 20-year-old radical in 1965,
> to make the fed's watch-list at that tender age, today you would be 71
> years old.
> 
> I don't care how old you are. It's just an observation based on the
> stupid, paranoid, ridiculous shit that you constantly say. And I'll tell
> you WHY I don't care, in the slightest, about you or any personal details
> about you:
> 
> You're an unimportant, clueless child, with a penchant for paranoia, and
> grandiose claims. You're rude, wear the term "asshole" like a badge of
> honor. This alone limits any effect, or importance you could possibly have
> to anyone, in any possible universe or social circle here on earth. You're
> nothing, and the few morsels of information or opinion that you offer that
> are worth anything, are really just pre-chewed pieces of fat gleaned from
> other sources. At best, you're the net equivalent of a talking head,
> dutifully reading off the page presented to you from somewhere else,
> trying to convince us that it has merit.
> 
> You have never had an original thought in your short little life, and
> since you obviously feed your ego mostly through the goings-on here - the
> net equivalent of scrawling graffiti in a dis-used lavatory at a random
> highway rest stop, it is quite likely that you never will have such a
> thought.
> 
> You have proudly written about how you avoid IT work, preferring other
> forms of labor out of some ideological duty -- which may be at least
> partly true, but it is just as likely, given the observations above, that
> you're just scared shitless to actually put your talents and mind to the
> test, because deep down, you wonder if you have what it takes.
> 
> That's just my opinion, off the top of my head, from what I remember of
> your nonsense.
> 
> It would be dizzingly pathetic, if it weren't so clockwork-regular like a
> fucking automaton.

That sound about right.

Thanks, bro :)

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 09:34 AM, John Newman responded to a troll responding to a
troll:


> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 05:52:50PM +0200, aestetix wrote:
>> Make Cypherpunks Great Again.
>>
> 
> Lulz!  I find it interesting that on John Gilmore's home page, under
> accomplishments, he says the following about the cypherpunks list:
> 
> 
> "The Cypherpunks (with Eric Hughes and Tim May)
> 
> An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
> encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
> writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
> and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
> descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
> cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."
> 
> No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  
> 
> Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/
> 
> 
> John
> 

Whasamtter John don't like my posts about Geofeedia stalking black
activists?


It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to trolls and the
resultant flames. I'd MUCH RATHER be posting stuff like the above and
discussing it, but I see a LOT of disruption being caused by what appear
to be one or two posters using a number of different emails and fuck you
if I can't point out the disruption. Or the psychological stalking by
someone using what appears to be a stolen identity, of quite a few
people resulting from involvement in the list.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Sorry, I've sent this message in private and forgot Razer likes only public
messages.

I will give a time and become a lurker again.  No time and patience to
waste with childish discussions.

I apologize for the last threads, full of bullshit.  Thank you for
everything and, again, pardon for all the drama.

Ceci
On Oct 14, 2016 1:19 PM, "Cecilia Tanaka"  wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2016 12:53 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
> >
> > Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>
> Stop disturbing the list, please.  The real troll is being you, Razer.
>
> > Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>
> Again:  -  You Need Psychiatric Treatment With Urgence, Razer.
>
> I swear I am not saying it to humiliate you.  I do believe you are _not_
> acting in a normal way, Razer.  See the weird things you are doing and
> writing.  It's fucking creepy, guy!  :-/
>
> Take care, dear.  Be well, please.
>
> -  c.
>

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[John Newman]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 05:52:50PM +0200, aestetix wrote:
> Make Cypherpunks Great Again.
> 

Lulz!  I find it interesting that on John Gilmore's home page, under
accomplishments, he says the following about the cypherpunks list:


"The Cypherpunks (with Eric Hughes and Tim May)

An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."

No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  

Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/


John


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Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 09:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>  Maybe you are a senile 1-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously 
> garbage


But... umn, whatever you want to believe troll. Yeah, I said that was my
last post in the thread. I misspoke. That's my last post addressing
'aff... CeCe' or whatever it is.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[xorcist]

>
> Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.
>

Not two minutes before you sent the above quoted message, you posted a
message saying your reply would be the last in thread. Obviously not.

But whatever. Uhm -- No, not fishing at all.  Maybe you are a senile
71-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously garbage.

In our first interaction on this list you made a ridiculous claim that you
were being profiled by the government. In your words, paraphrased, since
before they were really using computers, when things were being done with
paper and punch cards.

As I pointed out in a private message to you, which you also then posted
publicly here, punch cards were phased out in the 1960s.

If you were a well-connected extremely rabid 20-year-old radical in 1965,
to make the fed's watch-list at that tender age, today you would be 71
years old.

I don't care how old you are. It's just an observation based on the
stupid, paranoid, ridiculous shit that you constantly say. And I'll tell
you WHY I don't care, in the slightest, about you or any personal details
about you:

You're an unimportant, clueless child, with a penchant for paranoia, and
grandiose claims. You're rude, wear the term "asshole" like a badge of
honor. This alone limits any effect, or importance you could possibly have
to anyone, in any possible universe or social circle here on earth. You're
nothing, and the few morsels of information or opinion that you offer that
are worth anything, are really just pre-chewed pieces of fat gleaned from
other sources. At best, you're the net equivalent of a talking head,
dutifully reading off the page presented to you from somewhere else,
trying to convince us that it has merit.

You have never had an original thought in your short little life, and
since you obviously feed your ego mostly through the goings-on here - the
net equivalent of scrawling graffiti in a dis-used lavatory at a random
highway rest stop, it is quite likely that you never will have such a
thought.

You have proudly written about how you avoid IT work, preferring other
forms of labor out of some ideological duty -- which may be at least
partly true, but it is just as likely, given the observations above, that
you're just scared shitless to actually put your talents and mind to the
test, because deep down, you wonder if you have what it takes.

That's just my opinion, off the top of my head, from what I remember of
your nonsense.

It would be dizzingly pathetic, if it weren't so clockwork-regular like a
fucking automaton.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 09:06 AM, Александр wrote:
> 
> 2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer  >:
> 
> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
> 
> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
> 
> 
> Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
> Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
> "Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
> that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of
> course, there is NO honor/dignity. *Just a heap of mud with the name
> "cici".*
> *෴*
> 
> **


Women are perfectly capable of defending their own honor.

Only Sexist males think it's something that needs to be done.

There a local guy who subscribes to Bob Avakian's police-agent-infested
"Revolutionary Communist Party". He socked a cop at a demo a couple of
decades ago 'defending a woman with child being arrested' who was
essentially just being ticketed, and caused a brawl in which the woman,
her child, and he were injured and arrested.

He STILL believes he was 'defending that woman's honor' and wears it
proudly like a 'Revolutionist badge'. Currently this 'stupid white boy'
is attempting (without any success whatsoever) to form a local chapter
of the "New Black Panther Party" police provocateur organization.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 1:08 PM, "Александр"  wrote:
>
> 2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :
>>
>> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>>
>> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
>> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>
>
> Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
> Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course,
there is NO honor/dignity. Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".
> *෴*

Get a life, bitch.  The discussion didn't arrive in Putin's asshole yet.
Keep licking it and don't disturb the list, slut.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Александр]

2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :

> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>
> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>

Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course,
there is NO honor/dignity. *Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".*
*෴*

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 08:50 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>> Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?
>>
>> John
> 
> There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which
> is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of
> private comms like this.
> 
> I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated
> "chimpanzee hypothesis."
> 
> Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going
> senile.
> 
> It's all very hard to tell.
> 


Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[aestetix]

Make Cypherpunks Great Again.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 03:50:01PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:

Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?

John


There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which
is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of
private comms like this.

I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated
"chimpanzee hypothesis."

Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going
senile.

It's all very hard to tell.



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Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 08:29 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer"  > wrote:
>>
>> I'm not some ... psychopath  
> 
> You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer. 
> 
> You are very sick.  Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric
> treatment with urgence.
> 
> We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself.  You hurt other people.  It's
> evil.
> 

Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?

Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
stalking victims by posting that gibberish?

Last reply on thread. Period.

Rr

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[xorcist]

> Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?
>
> John

There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which
is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of
private comms like this.

I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated
"chimpanzee hypothesis."

Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going
senile.

It's all very hard to tell.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[John Newman]

Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?

John

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 06:34:09AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> 
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
> 
> Some people like 'em nuts.
> 
> 
> I'm not interested.
> 
> Rr
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From: Cecilia Tanaka 
> 
> 
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
> 
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
> 
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
> 
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
> 

-- 
John 


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Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> I'm not some ... psychopath  

You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer.

You are very sick.  Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric
treatment with urgence.

We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself.  You hurt other people.  It's
evil.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Oct 14, 2016 11:57 AM, "Mirimir"  wrote:
>
> On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:
> >
> > Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
> >
> > Some people like 'em nuts.
> >
> >
> > I'm not interested.
> >
> > Rr
>
> You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.

Don't worry, Mirimir.  No great damages.  Now everybody knows I like
circumcised penises and mainly musky smells.  I won't die because of this
foolish.

I provoked him because I was stupid, thinking we still were friends.  Now,
I know Razer is not trustful and loves to humiliates people.  Just it.

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

On 10/14/2016 07:57 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:
>>
>> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
>>
>> Some people like 'em nuts.
>>
>>
>> I'm not interested.
>>
>> Rr
> 
> You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.


I'm an asshole in real life too. Some people consider it an adorable
quality. Others avoid me like the plague. Ask me if I REALLY give a
fuck. I'm not some corporate psychopath bagging 'friends' for future
'favors granted' (as they say in the Mafia) Your troll friend just
didn't seem to understand "Bug Off", so...

Rr

> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
>> Date:Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
>> From:Cecilia Tanaka 
>>
>>
>> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
>> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
>> sleep, my dear.
>>
>> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
>> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
>> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
>> just to smell you...  <3
>>
>> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
>> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
>> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
>>
>> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
>> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
>>
>>

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Mirimir]

On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
> 
> Some people like 'em nuts.
> 
> 
> I'm not interested.
> 
> Rr

You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.

>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From: Cecilia Tanaka 
> 
> 
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
> 
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
> 
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
> 
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
> 
> 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Ok, I can't make anything if Razer prefers sex with little boys and to
support Nambla.

Sorry to everybody for this public soap opera.  It's so bizarre that it
becomes funny.  I never will purr in laps of crazy hysterical guys like
Razer again, I promise.

So life goes on...  :)

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Razer, you are strange.  I am crazy, but you are crazier.  And absolutely
hysterical because don't like to lose a discussion, aff...
On Oct 14, 2016 10:34 AM, "Razer"  wrote:

>
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
>
> Some people like 'em nuts.
>
>
> I'm not interested.
>
> Rr
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From:   Cecilia Tanaka 
>
>
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
>
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
>
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
>
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
>
>

Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

[Razer]

Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?

Some people like 'em nuts.


I'm not interested.

Rr

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
From:   Cecilia Tanaka 


I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
sleep, my dear.

I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
just to smell you...  <3

Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...

Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)