>> You're like autistic or something.
>
>
> Sure. And being gay is a disease that is cured with
> electroshocks and lobotomies.
Hit a nerve, did I? Sorry. No judgments. If its correct, it just means you
just think differently. It's not even a big deal. For the purposes here,
it just m
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40:09PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
> Now, here's your fallacy. Because we humans are of course acting
> rationally under pressure. Take Juan's give-me-your-money example: in
> order to actually hand out your money you need to understand my
> intentions, you need
> 2016-09-21 3:33 GMT+03:00 juan :
>
> Oh... what a deadly punch/es, Juan! (one of)
> The poor new CIA troll xorcist (substituting the SDW guy) starts to
> understand why his fellow man (SDW) failed on the list with his cheap
> US/antihuman pseudophilosophical propaganda.
>
>
> Now, here's your fallacy.
And, let me also say.. your description of the human thought process is
all wrong. :)
Consider it this way. When someone walks up to you, and sticks out their
hand to shake hands.. you respond by reaching out and shaking hands.
You're not processing it all the way y
>
> oh oh oh... so much private information and WHAT an information we
> should start LAving you, xorcist. Just lAving you!!! What a holy man we
> got
Private? Fuck you're paranoid.
I don't consider what I do for a living, or otherwise, private. My name,
locati
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:55:03 -
>
> You hit a nerve only in a general sense. Psychiatry is a
> especially vicious tool for political manipulation and
> oppresion.
Indeed. Religion, physics, and medicine generally, as well.
Political oppressors will co-opt anything they can u
I'd like to bounce an idea around. At the outset, I'm going to say that I
don't really like the idea. Like getting a root canal, I'd rather not have
a some guy drilling around in my jaw, but what can you do?
Some years back, maybe 8 years ago now, prior to the Snowden revelations,
a Kiwi buddy and
> That's called "Little Brother"; we (for various forms of "we") have talked
> about it a lot.
Heh. Kinda funny. I called it "Little Sister" when I mentioned it to my
buddy.
Yeah, those are good points you make. A voting system that could
downvote/purge irrelevant/private clips would be good. It
> I disagree.
> Therefore, the one and only effective way to get back freedom is to
> shutdown the tyranny. Maybe weapons are required, like in the US
> independence war, maybe a massive amount of people is required, like we
> east germans did in 1989.
>
> Anything else are illusions.
Valid point
Ooops.
Sent this to Juan offlist, but meant to copy the list on it too.
> However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is going
> to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills
> because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the
> subway
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:10:27 -
>>
>> It's all about misdirection, and subtle cues.
>
>
> Yes, but there isn't anything extraordinary about it. He's
> simply trying to distract his target. There isn't any profound
> scientific principle or insight behind that.
I don't really
AK47's are useless?
The Afghani's repelled the Soviets with manual-action rifles from WWI and
WWI. Then took their AK47's and repelled NATO.
And the Taliban is still there.
So I think they'd take exception with this.
But there are good points to it. The ability for insurrection is largely
overs
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:35:31 -
> Yes indeed. But there are very important differences between
> physics - a 'hard science', medicine which could be 'scientific'
> but since it deals with incredibly complex systems it is mostly
> a joke (and fraud) at the moment, and th
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 21:44:12 -0400
> John Newman wrote:
>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming
>>
>> "..There is no scientific evidence supporting the claims made by
>> NLP advocates and it has been discredited as a pseudoscience by
>> experts.."
>
>
> Somewhat
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 08:30:55PM -0700, Razer wrote:
>
> You cannot eliminate human nature.
>
> Greed and lust for power are tendencies of human nature.
>
> But perhaps it is possible to commoditize politics, rather than have
> politics be a tool for the wealthy and powerful?
>
> (How? Good que
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 03:12:11AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
> They were bloody well fed anti tank and anti aircraft rpgs and the like
> by the USA - that's how they took down the USSR occupation.
>
>
>> Then took their AK47's and repelled NATO.
>
> Your simplification may be useful to i
>
> Right. US military have trained heavily for this scenario, however.
So? That can actually play to your advantage. With heavy training, comes
assumptions of what to expect, and an ingrained game-plan. If you know
what they expect, you simply do something else, and cause confusion.
>
> Well, to
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:06:17PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>> Greed is a fundamental problem of Capitalism. It is also a fundamental
>> problem of Socialism. The Soviet chiefs in the Politburo weren't
>> standing
>> in the bread lines with everyone else.
>
> On the other hand, greed is
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 05:34:05AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
> But then, try to live the life of some farmer in 730 a.d. or of a slave
> in 2.500 b.c. egypt, or that of a miner in 4.000 b.c. china.
>
> In fact, we're living in the best possible times humans have ever had.
> Surely there
I've been toying with libgcrypt, lately. Mostly to refresh my 'C' after a
long, long love affair, turned dirty mouth-spitting fuck-fest with python.
It's been a long time since I had to do so much fucking book keeping. I
remember why I left C behind.
I'm turning over some ideas for a FUSE-based en
> What many in the West don't get is that many Russians are a patriotic
> lot, and hardy in their nationalism, and with the history of the world
> since perestroika, they carry now a not insignificant disdain for "the
> West".
>
Meh. Early in Putin's reign, when eastern bloc countries were all joi
>
> Being able to hand off keys harmlessly when some border control
> officer wants to turn your electronics inside out: Priceless.
Yup. This can be achieved quite simply without anything exotic, though.
Tar your truly secret plaintext all up, and encrypt it with a header-less
symmetric algorith
> That is /very/ clever indeed.
Why thank you.
> Or just make them believe you gave up something "personally
> embarrassing" but not actionable under duress. Got to give them a win
> to report.
>
> :o)
Yeah, I was always partial to having something personally embarrassing as
a first level invol
>
> GOOD and bad, RIGHT and wrong - are THE ONLY VARIABLES in this equation.
I disagree.
On a personal level, right and wrong certainly exist. I believe this is
the only plane where morality has any real meaning.
On a geopolitical level, good and evil are meaningless, UNLESS you make
the simple
> First you raised a straw man "Putin good man/ bad man", then you raise a
> dichotomy "the wrong question vs the right question".
Straw man implies I'm arguing with you, or trying to refute your opinion.
I'm just having a discussion, and the "Putin good man / bad man" thing was
mostly to clarify
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 05:50:00 -
> Psychiatry is radically different. Being 'mentally healthy'
> simply means being 'well adapted' to a society of crazies.
I get where you are coming from. I've often said, "Being well-adapted to a
sick culture is no sign of health."
> The fa
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:39 -
> Well, I don't. And what hat are you wearing now? The
> manipulative emotionalist, or the cold 'scientific' thinker?
I don't really care if you do, or don't. I have no vested interest in
changing your mind. I'm simply stating my views, and respondi
by no means alone.
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed
ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."
F. Scott Fitzgerald
> So this is it xorcist.
Stop, you're going to make me blush.
This is a bunch o
e key to
focus on.
>
> And in this particular example courtesy 'xorcist', we have a classic
> case of a proposition implying an absolute, but in fact is not true,
> yet tends to lead the reader into the fallacy. (Forgot the name of this
> particular 'logical reversal&#x
> Date: 6 Dec 1997 05:49:19 -
> Message-ID: <19971206054919.5142.qm...@iq.org>
> From: Julian Assange
> To: coderpu...@toad.com
> cc: cryptogra...@c2.net, cypherpu...@toad.com
> Subject: Rubber-hose proof (cryptographically deniable) file-systems.
> Sender: owner-cypherpu...@toad.com
> Precede
sweet; and that, with the right type of eyes, one can fall madly in love
for span of hours, and then move along, alone again. How long one is in
love for is not important, what is important is to experience it.
> Yes massa O'Brien @ xorcist @ sigaint - I bow to your alpha
>
>
> How long you're involved with someone isn't important. What you get out
> of it is.
>
> Right?
No, what I said is that experiencing it is important. The experience of
love is more about giving, than receiving. But, yes, it can feel wonderful
to give to someone, and in that sense you get someth
+1.
Can I +2 if I develop multi-personality syndrome?
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>
>
>
> On 09/23/2016 08:04 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
>> So the US government appears set on complete destruction of
>> Ukraine. Doesn't even make strategic sense at this point. I guess
>> u
>
> I staked out a stronger position than I actually hold, a hopefully
> forgivable mistake in response to Zenaan's black-and-white "Russia good,
> US
> evil" propagandizing. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
>
OK, I can understand that.
Yes, there is a lot of ideological stuff like that here,
>> > I staked out a stronger position than I actually hold, a hopefully
>> > forgivable mistake in response to Zenaan's black-and-white "Russia
>> > good, US evil" propagandizing. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
>>
>> OK, I can understand that.
>>
>> Yes, there is a lot of ideological stuff lik
> Right, to understand people, you need to see things as they might.
Of course!
>
> But that doesn't mean that you agree with what they say and do.
Of course not! :) .. the way far-out example I usually give to this is
someone like a serial killer. If they were sexually, physically, and
mentally
> Since you say in one breath you are not a moral relativist, and in the
> next you say "I try to leave moralizing, ideology, and even my own
> opinion, out of it", you either cannot hold a consistent thought, or you
> speak with such contortions you betray a deep compromise within
> yourself.
I
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 02:14:12PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
> Feeling oppressed today ? Free speech giving you the shivers lately ?
No, you're perfectly entitled to an opinion. But it seems stupid to me to
me, to ask someone's opinion, and then take a self-righteous attack stance
to
I'll leave out your contortions of things I've said, willful ignorance of
what I meant, and your attacks. They aren't worth the time. There were,
however, two useful morsels in amongst the mess, otherwise:
> Are you trying to say the slave owners of the American South did not
> actually benefit f
>
> Maybe fix your mail client to attribute quotes?
Alas, the webmail client here doesn't seem to be that flexible.
>
> Well, we all have shit like that going on, albeit far more subtle ;)
>
> In _Foundations of Psychohistory_, Lloyd Demause discusses the evolution
> of child-rearing methods in r
A serious young man found the conflicts of the mid 20th Century confusing.
He went to many people seeking a way of resolving within himself the
discords that troubled him, but he remained troubled.
One night in a coffee house, a self-ordained Zen Master said to him, "go
to the dilapidated mansion
> Hmm.. if you really look at the big picture here, and imagine
> an America that never had African slaves, I doubt the south wouldve
> had any substantial wealth to lose. Certainly nothing like it was.
I find it difficult to imagine an America without slaves without also
imagining a British E
> What bothers me is not this particular instance, but the proof of
> concept it represents, in a world where everything from refrigerators to
> night lights phones home. Things present a very diffuse and low-reward
> attack surface individually, but as reflectors they provide a potential
> solar-
Give the grandfather's situation, I can understand the suit in this case.
Personally though, as much as I dislike Windows, Win10 has been a pleasant
experience for me comparative to XP, 7, and especially 8. Granted, I don't
have a great deal of use for Windows generally, and my usage is restricted
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:02:27 -
> xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>> Big picture: the harm they did led to a civil war which enabled their
>> federal government in a power grab.
>
> Wrong as usual.
I knew you wouldn't be able to stay away from the sweet, sweet lovin' very
long Juan. Some l
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:40:30 -
> xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>
>> I knew you wouldn't be able to stay away from the sweet, sweet lovin'
>> very long Juan. Some loves are meant to last.
>
>
> I just routinely counter the garbage that people like you
> routinely vomit. Don't think
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:54:02 -
> xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>
>
>> >"margaritas ante porcos".
>>
>>
>> Spanish
>
> quoted for self-parody value.
>
>
So, uh.. what about that drink baby?
And afterwards, I promise to be gentle.
> On Sep 28, 2016 5:54 PM, wrote:
>>
>> And I love a man that can whisper sweetly in Spanish to me. I'll have a
> margarita with you any day, sugar tits.
>
> Err... Sorry for disappointing you, darling. Our sweet Juan wasn't being
> romantic and inviting you to drink margaritas with him... :-/
>
> Oh, poor little broken heart...
> http://youtu.be/JIrm0dHbCDU
>
How wonderfully apropos! First time I went to a strip club as a kid, I
remember one of the dancers doing a routine to this song.
ha! no accounting for coincidence, I guess.
> Carry on. Your amoral slavery ramblings are such a fine
> example of 'enlightented' mental vomits, I mean 'buddhist'
> 'philosohical' 'thought'
>
> You're both retarded and intellectually dishonest. A piece of
> shit IOW =)
Does this mean we're breaking up again?
> What I stated a while back about my reasons for never getting involved
> in the computer industry as a way to earn my bucks... I don't get along
> with fewdal punkz and hypercompetitive-hyperagressives reel well. So
> what did they do? They FUCKED the whole 'Fucking thing'.
In my experience tha
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:23 PM, wrote:
> I'd bet a lot of readers here would have major ethical issues with
> what they do... collect and mine info so they can cold call, spam,
> promote, engineer, and market people brands and junk they don't
> need... and wouldn't be into working in that line
> *I just routinely counter the garbage that people like you
> routinely vomit. *Don't think your are special. Having pointed
> all the mistakes in your mental vomit,
> *I'm back to the no "margaritas ante porcos" policy.*
>
> Great knock-out, Juan!
> This should be periodic
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:31:34 -
> xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>>
>> >Carry on. Your amoral slavery ramblings are such a fine
>> >example of 'enlightented' mental vomits, I mean 'buddhist'
>> >'philosohical' 'thought'
>> >
>> >You're both retarded and intellectually dishonest.
> I don't know what you're talking about. Then again, neither do
> you.
What can I say, you get me so flustered, its tough to think with you
around, hot pants.
> What was your last display of buddhist stupidity? Ah yes,
> "bluecore". Oh, and you wouldn't work for BAE...ex
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 05:36:26 -
> mate, you can't seriously expect me to play along with your
> striking lack of basic intellectual honesty =)
I don't expect anyone, to do anything. Except die. That we all have in
common, at least thus far.
As far as 'intellectual honesty' goes,
>
> Consider taking part in this. Paying for using windoze coming soon,
> I heard.
>
Meh. Nowhere near lucrative enough. I can beat that 'handily' with regular
sperm donations.
>
> You can do IT work for anbody
you dont have to code/sysadmin/whatever
> strictly for a company in the computer industry. This has been my shift
> in the past few years.
+1
Buddy of moved into a sweet gig. After years of 'serious' admin work, he
was burnt out, and took a gig at a local hosp
>
> So what happened to Ian Murdock?
>
Just checked the wiki. It's a bit limited. Prior to his suicide, he split
up with his long-time partner Debra (Debian was named as a combination of
their names), had taken it hard as most long-term mid-life breakups tend
to do, and was apparently soon to be e
> So he got rid of the wife/bitch/cunt. Another reason not to
> commit suicide. Rest of your stupid psycho-drivel ignored.
Well, considering that he was taking it hard, it would seem he didn't
consider her a bitch/cunt. Or were you just showing your misogynistic side
because no sane
>
>
> On 09/29/2016 04:05 PM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>> Well, considering that he was taking it hard,
>
> How do you know?
When I first heard he died, I read a few articles that were kicking around
about it, and his family and friends had mentioned it, along with his
financial troubles. Or,
>
> Trust me. It IS NOT rare.
Well, if we're speaking of disassociative / depersonalized states
generally, I quite agree. But my understanding is that 'fugue' states
refer to a rather rare sub-type specifically characterized by amnesia.
>
> Further, there ARE varying degrees... Leading to missing
> Don't forget to hate on automation engineers as the unemployment rate
> reaches 45% and the gubmint still hasn't figured out what to do with all
> those idled people.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
>
> Source:
> http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/09/30/tales-from-the-american-dm
>
> My opinion of people like Musk and the rest of the technocrats is they
> ARE Darwin's finest example ... of "Marauders and Pillagers".
>
> Any service to society is coincidental and unintentional and solely
> related to 'wealth accumulation'. Philanthropics too... It's for the
> writedown. Not
> http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/10/02/wednesday-hillary-clinton-done-
> You know what... up until now I have supported what Julian and Wikileaks
> have done. If he costs Hillary the election, though, that could very
> well change in a hurry.
Makes no difference either way. Hillary is as corrupt
>
> It doesn't make any sense. He either wants the job or he doesn't. If he
> does, he needs to figure out--FAST--that running the United States of
> America is not a reality TV show!! If he doesn't, he could have declined
> the GOP nomination and let... just about anyone else in the running
> (bes
> By-the-way, I saw somebody on the interwebz suggesting that
> trump's job is to get the cunt elected. The idea is to have
> somebody like trump to point at and say "look! the murderous
> cunt is better than him!". Sounds sorta plausible. At least if
> your target au
> It's a counterpoint to all the technocratic libertarian bullshit that
> appears here. as if that republican crap somehow 'punk'.
>
> This society is sick and perverse and needs to be put out of it's misery
> like a rat dog that just bit some gentrified whore's kid.
While I do understand the frus
>> Hell, even the
>> homeless can be overweight and have ipods and shit.
>
> They can have iPods but no shelter. How does this sound for you?
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/17/the-stuff-we-really-need-is-getting-more-expensive-other-stuff-is-getting-cheaper/
>
Oh, hey I ge
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 18:47:08 -
> xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>
>> As sick as this society is (and I do agree on that), bloodshed is
>> relatively at a minimum, and resources are plentiful.
>
> What kind of moral agent, sorry, robot, would say that kind of
> thing?
>
Sorry, we yo
>
> Actually, people who support to varying degrees things like tor
> (a pentagon's cyberweapon), google, clinton and even the US
> military (not as bad as russia's) are not unthinking. They
> understand perfectly well what they are doing.
>
Says a pinhead using Gmail.
'ta
> Not 'we'. I'm commenting on the estalishment progaganda you
> post.
Yah.
>
> What? You can't come up with any decent answer, piece-of-shit
> psychobabble scam artist?
Actually, I found that answer quite entertaining. And seeing that our
previous interaction has proven t
> I suppose. If the 'good life' includes sleeping with a tire iron and a
> big knife to fend off predators of the human species.
>
> In SOME COUNTRIES the homeless may not get fat or have ipods but the
> odds of being attacked by an idiot kid of the gentry, or being lit up,
> is pretty slim. I say
>
> Yes, piece-of-shit - That's clearly what you said, and like the
> 'good '(pretty mediocre) scam artist you are, you prefaced it
> with "I agree with you, but...".
Oh Juanita, sing that sweet sweet song of love to me once again! Of all
the trolls under heaven, there is none
> Ain't no "if" about that collapse; "when" would be more accurate.
Agreed.
> And the wonderful achievements of Progressive Liberalism only cost us:
Agreed.
> But our "homeless people" can have a shiny toy to compensate them for
> their lack of basic security and so-called necessities. Yes, th
> That's the kind of privileges you get by raping the whole world
> for centuries, including spanish empire, dutch empire, british
> empire(yours) and now british-amerikunt empire (yours). No
> wonder you are a loyal subject ahd defender of the status quo.
> Oh yes, i
>>
>> Hey fuck head, you're typing on a computer. That makes you one of the
>> global 1% too.
>
>
> False. Like everything you said, stupid piece-of-shit.
Hey fuck head, any electronic device that can post stuff on the net is a
computer.
>
> ignorant establishment bot is also an expert in chinese
> history! amazing.
Expert? No. But you don't need to be an expert to know a few things.
Like you. I see you occasionally use verbs and nouns properly.
>> Look at the Middle East: For all intents and purposes they are in the
longs to the "1%" then?
And those phones are computers, fuck face.
>
> Does it hurt to be as stupid and corrupt as you are 'xorcist'?
No, not at all. Because I'm smart enough to know that a programmable
device that has a CPU in it is a computer. Even if, derp.. i
>
> Sadly, the mental rigour required for precise communication and clear
> thinking is not for many.
I'm fine with mental rigor, except when its used to box in ideas, and try
to control people.
Which is, ALWAYS, how ideologues use it.
So, in those circumstances, I eschew it. Because I don't le
> http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder
>
> Were you abused as a child?
>
No, just having some 'fun' with Juan.
Trying different strategies to see what will actually shut him the fuck up
and just ignore me.
> Juan is extremely onry
That is a polite way of putting it. Are you suggesting I try being overly
polite?
Well, OK.
Juan, dear sir, I wouldn't be happy to find your thumbs cramping up typing
on a phone. Fear not, I shant be ill to find that you not bother
responding to my twaddle and would be
> Let me SPELL IT OUT for you, RETARD. I didn't deny I was typing
> on a computer (as a matter of fact, I use a desktop computer).
> I denied being in the "1%". GET IT now?
Wait, I lost track. Are we talking about wealth, or intelligence?
Because I agree that neither of us are i
>> Are we talking about wealth, or intelligence?
>
> I know what I'm talking about but you don't know what you are
> talking about. You seem to have some kind of problem...
You're right, I do have several problems.
At the moment, I can't find my lighter. And you never shut the fuck u
> Here's some advanced calculus for you : World population ~
> 7400 millions. What's the 1% of 7400? Why, it's 74 millions.
>
> Now find out who those 74 million people are. Then try the 10%
> group. That one should include most of the US and europe...et
> cetera.
I
>> remember that even part-time workers in the first world
>> making $25k-30k USD are globally in the 1% or so.
>
> There use to be an informational leaflet going around called "If the
> world was 10 people". In that scenario, Americans have ALL the stuff.
Yeah, I've seen break-downs like that. It
> The poster of that tweet, @thegrugq, 'security researcher', also said:
> "the government doesnât use Tor."
>
> https://twitter.com/attractr/status/783014723226861568
>
> Comments?
>
I wouldn't expect them to use Tor. If you're a field agent that may be
under surveillance, connecting to someth
weak tea, son.
Which is why I'm content to fuck with you, not offer any real answers to
your supposed questions, and generally make fun of the entire
"conversation" that you're pretending to be a part of.
> xorcist bottom line? DON"T MESS WITH MY BUDDIES TH
>> Like I told ya. A dingy hotel bar napkin. I'd scan it and prove it to
>> ya,
>> since I know you like evidence and logic, but unfortunately I used it
>> for
>> cleanup and tossed it with the condom wrapper, and your mom's phone
>> number
>> already. True story.
>
> Mean :(
>
>
I know, I know.
>
> Ignoring what he writes, and declining to address whatever I notice,
> works pretty well :)
>
Truth. I should learn to look at chatter like juan's as something akin to
entropy.
Alas, I have difficulty accepting the heat death of the universe as well;
I suppose that's 'on me' as they say.
> It's worse than that :( In that I agree with much of what he says. Or at
> least, I get his perspective, as part of a working understanding. But
> he's clearly not interested in that :( So it goes.
Yeah. It's like I told a friend of mine once during a discussion.
"That is a lucid, cogent, well
> As X said, it DOES sort of tip the opponent off that you have something
> to hide, but whether they can identify 'you'... especially using
> something like Tails that spoofs your mac address and leaves no trace
> that you've ever done anything more than power up at a given time.
>
> So if you're
> Besides since you are an anti-rationalist, why would you care
> about any 'refutation'.
I'm not anti-rationalist, any more than I am anti-wrench. It's a tool. And
when it is a useful too, I'm more than willing to use it.
But not all problems are mere nuts and bolts.
>> lulz. You'r
>> I'm not anti-rationalist, any more than I am anti-wrench. It's a
>> tool. And when it is a useful too, I'm more than willing to use it.
>>
>> But not all problems are mere nuts and bolts.
>
>
> It's the only valid tool for rational discussions. But you
> want to be able to use ration
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 21:36:40 -
> xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>
>> Rationality is, at its
>> foundation, about AGREEING on some basic foundational ideas,
>
>
>
> "I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to.
> I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it."
>
>
> You subscribe to that one too? Well no, since scammers,
> charlatans and intellectual frauds love to hide their scams
> behind empty, ambiguous words.
>
> Anyway, hopefully you got the point. Your 'understanding'
> of 'logic' is quite similar to that of the worst t
> You disagree because you just keep cheating. There isn't much
> to add. Logic isn't about 'agreement' with you, or with the
> party.
I take this to mean that you don't believe that logic requires fundamental
assumptions that cannot be proven, but must be agreed upon?
And using
>> The term is called "extraterritorial jurisdiction"
>
> A double criminal absurdity. The mafia known as government has
> no real 'jurisdiction' in the territory they usurp, let alone in
> territories 'belonging' to other mafias.
On this, at least, we can agree completely.
The
> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 00:29 -0300, juan wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 22:17:36 -0500
>> "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I do agree in principle that the information needs to get out there,
>> > and for the US government to try to keep it secret is at least a bit
>> > un-American, if not fla
> Again, truth is NOT a matter of agreement. And axioms are not
> to be 'agreed' upon. Also, axioms can be proven. If axioms
> couldn't be proven then any statement based on them would
> be...unproven, meaningless, useless, et cetera.
>From the CRC Encyclopedia of Mathemati
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