Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-10 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: So. I propose the following, and, barring objections over the next week or so, I'll take steps to update what I can to reflect this: uname -s will remain 'NetBSD'. uname -v will continue to have distinguishing features (I really

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:21:09AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Which works great, if it's libc-dev that's needed. It fails fairly severely, if a specific version of a library is needed due to, say, a fix in an included library that also requires a fix in the application. Not to mention

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-05 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:46:05PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Untill we resolve this, please take into consideration to avoid filing patches that use netbsd-i386 in a way that breaks the other port. I've been careful to keep such incompatible patches without submitting, since I

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:28:03PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:46:05PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Untill we resolve this, please take into consideration to avoid filing patches that use netbsd-i386 in a way that breaks the other port. I've been careful

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port than Debian GNU/NetBSD, both because it is more specific about what's going

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
There are very important technical reasons for these decisions, not only nomenclature correctness stuff. Let me explain. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: uname -s: GNU/KFreeBSD Uhm. I'd have to turn on my box to

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:24:51PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: There are very important technical reasons for these decisions, not only nomenclature correctness stuff. Let me explain. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: uname -s: GNU/KFreeBSD

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Indeed. As long as it's documented, people are probably going to be hand-selecting their APT entries, anyway, so it isn't such a big deal. [...] The Debian architecture will remain 'netbsd-i386', with the known issue that we'll

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:04:20AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: Indeed. As long as it's documented, people are probably going to be hand-selecting their APT entries, anyway, so it isn't such a big deal. [...] The Debian

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-03 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:41:00AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: Hi Joel, On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Joel, On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port than Debian GNU/NetBSD, both because it is more specific about

A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-02 Thread Joel Baker
I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port than Debian GNU/NetBSD, both because it is more specific about what's going on, and because it doesn't dilute the NetBSD trademark. While the

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-02 Thread Michael Ritzert
Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.12.03 21:51:20: I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port than Debian GNU/NetBSD, both because it is more specific about If the NetBSD

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-02 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:49:42PM +0100, Michael Ritzert wrote: Joel Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 02.12.03 21:51:20: I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that Debian GNU/KNetBSD is a better name for the port than