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> > [dpkg-gencontrol complains about unknown substitution variables]
>
> dh_pycentral should do it for you...
I am using dh_pycentral (as noted in my original message).
Or do you mean
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> > Depends: ${python:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
>
> By removing misc:Depends, you are simply potentially shooting
> yourself in the foot.
Fair enough.
> > an
x27;m attempting
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> > I've seen for using python-central have the egg being built in the
> > Debian-specific debian/ru
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> > But the Python distutils and setuptools will install the modules
> > to /usr/lib/site-python/.
>
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> > How can I use the tools available — distutils, setuptools,
> > debhelper — to install these package-specific modules to a
> > package-specific location, su
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How can I best conform to the [Debian policy for Python modules
> specific to a single package]?
As an example, here's a Python package I'm trying to get packaged for
Debian. (I am the upstream author of this one, but I'm in
(Please preserve attribution lines on quoted material. I don't know
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> The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using
> operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency
> management, which seems to be the primary target market for
> setuptools.
This should, of course, read
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> > The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using
> > operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency
> > management, whic
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In the thread Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I asked
> about package-private modules interacting with setuptools and the
> Debian Python policy. In retrospect it seems I've got some more
> fundamental learning to do.
>
Sam Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 11:08 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> > So, I ask for help with this specific package, in the hope that I
> > can learn more general lessons about packaging software for both
> > Python's Cheeseshop and the
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> > What packages in Debian can people recommend that use setuptools
> > properly, and are packaged in accordance with the latest Debian
> > Python policy?
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> > Should the default placement of 'dh_pycentral' be changed so that
> > 'pycentral' is run early enough for programs in the package that
> > depend on the installed modules?
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> > currently?
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> I don't use dh_installinit and I put the correct sni
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> http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > there are people in this group who persistently complain about how
> > Python's current packaging practices are broken with
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> http://mid.gname.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:27:18PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> > $ licensecheck --recursive --copyright .
>
> Just don't forget that it will skip a lot of file types by default.
Thanks. From the program source, the default r
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> > Since my VCS preference, and that of my upstream, is Bazaar, this
> > makes PAPT more of a burden than I was looking for. Alioth was
> > attractive for this p
ary-indep --after pysupport
Does anyone know debhelper better than me, and can suggest ways to
improve that package's current 'debian/rules' file to make better use
of debhelper 7 with 'python-central'?
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> > improve that package's current 'debian/rules' file to make better use
> > of debhelper 7 with 'python-central'?
ystem changes) part of the system, so belongs in /usr
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> > Floris Bruynooghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > "/var/lib : Variable state information [...] State information
> > > is data that progr
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > What makes you think 'foo.pyc' is /var material?
>
> Oh yes that seems obvious to me. In fact, I'd say it should be
> /var/cache material becau
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> > I don't see that it leads to storing the compiled programs to live
> > under /var/, rather than /usr/ which to my mind is more appropriate
> > for compile
ing this, and how can I fix it so it doesn't have this
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all? How can I stop that and only use 'dh_pycentral' as requested,
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> .PHONY: install
> install: build
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> .PHONY: binary-indep
> binary-indep: build install
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A little while ago on debian-python, we discussed the location of
system files that are executable bytecode, created by package
management tools at install time, and how to comply with th FHS.
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Perhaps, but the case has yet to be made why Python should be treated
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> > I saw no response to Message-ID: <87skwceynw@benfinney.id.au>
> > on this forum, but would love to be convinced this will be fixed.
> > This is probably the last rema
nges.
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> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:11, Ben Finney wrote:
> > I see this discussion focussing exclusively on Subversion versus
> > Git; I wish with this message to point out that not all DVCSen are
> > necessarily like Git.
>
> WTF?! As Ondrej said jus
Ondrej Certik writes:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
> > Certainly, if someone can point me to the right thread.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=debian+python+git+svn&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
>
> it's the 4th
ning system', which one should really keep in mind when
> discussing such changes.
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> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 02:21, Ben Finney wrote:
> > I see this discussion focussing on Subversion versus Git; I wish
> > with this message to point out that's a false dichotomy, as not
> > all DVCSen are necessarily like Git.
>
> Wanna
David Cournapeau writes:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
>
>
> > This issue is avoidable if the repository is a Bazaar one:
>
> But what does it solve ? The main problem with downloading the whole
> history is the time taken. The only way
Sandro Tosi writes:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 23:00, Ben Finney wrote:
> > his opinion surely counts less than the opinion of those who
> > intend to use these repositories. I don't see why you bring that
> > up.
>
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> Piotr Ożarowski (03/03/2009):
> > [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03]
> > > Piotr Ożarowski (02/03/2009):
> > > > [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02]
> > > > > Why does [removal of links created by ‘python-central’] not
> > > >
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Piotr Ożarowski writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2009-03-04]
> > As noted elsewhere, this is to overcome behaviour (discussed in
> > http://bugs.debian.org/479852>)
>
> I'm a little bit busy these days (so I didn't check pycentral's
> code... yet), but isn
tered the archive (Ben
> Finney). It obviously uses a completely different naming scheme and
> provides a small rst2man binary package which only contains the
> frontend. And then there is rst2pdf (Chris Lamb) which does the
> all-in-one thing in a single eponymous .deb.
>
> Since I
d? How does on go about doing that, exactly?
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Cyril Brulebois writes:
> Ben Finney (14/04/2009):
> > As per bug#523965 http://bugs.debian.org/523965>, I'm attempting
> > to migrate the ‘docutils-manpage-writer’ package from using
> > ‘python-central’ to using ‘python-support’.
>
> *-writer-manp
Ben Finney writes:
> Cyril Brulebois writes:
> > Put them into /usr/lib/python*/site-packages, as documented in its
> > manpage?
>
> What, though, is ‘python*’ here? Remember, this is specifically for a
> module that (at present) has no build system upstream; the
Cyril Brulebois writes:
> Ben Finney (14/04/2009):
> > I'm not very familiar with using ‘python-support’, so I'm not clear
> > what I need to change in these rules. Where do I need to install the
> > library files for them to be properly discovered by ‘dh_pysuppor
Josselin Mouette writes:
> Le mardi 14 avril 2009 à 16:51 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > =
> > ---
> > docutils-writer-manpage-0.1~svn.r5663/debian/docutils-writer-manpage.install
> > +++
> > docutils-writer-manpage-0.1~svn.r5663/debian/docutils-wr
Josselin Mouette writes:
> Le mardi 14 avril 2009 à 22:09 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > Where should I put the upstream library files so that the above
> > ‘docutils-writer-manpage.install’ is not needed and ‘dh_pysupport’
> > will get them automatically? I have
Josselin Mouette writes:
> Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 08:01 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > Because it's double-handling: in the ‘debian/rules’ file I specify
> > copying the modules once, and then in ‘debian/foo.install’ I specify
> > copying them again. I want to
Piotr Ożarowski writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2009-04-15]
> > The only way that I know of so far to get ‘dh_pysupport’ to find and
> > install the module correctly is:
> >
> > * Copy the file from ‘writers/manpage.py’ into ‘usr/lib/$(shell
> > pyversions -d)/site-p
Adeodato Simó writes:
> + Ben Finney (Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:19:55 +1000):
>
> > * Copy the file from ‘writers/manpage.py’ into ‘usr/lib/$(shell
> > pyversions -d)/site-packages/docutils/writers/.’. If I omit this step,
> > there is no indication that the
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