Packaging for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-03-13 Thread Ben Finney
7; I said 'Yeah I know, | _o__) but I wasn't going to be out that long.'" -- Steven Wright | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Packaging for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-03-14 Thread Ben Finney
[Please follow http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct>; I don't ask for copies of list messages to be sent to me, so by default please don't.] Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: > > I have some idea abou

Re: Packaging for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-03-15 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: > A module that uses "eggs" to load another module is certainly > egg-ready itself. However if the dependency isn't egg-ready, then > the package expecting an egg of its dependen

dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-18 Thread Ben Finney
oo' command? -- \"I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day, because | `\ that means it's gonna be up all night." -- Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: > > [dpkg-gencontrol complains about unknown substitution variables] > > dh_pycentral should do it for you... I am using dh_pycentral (as noted in my original message). Or do you mean

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > Earlier, I had > > Depends: ${python:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} > > By removing misc:Depends, you are simply potentially shooting > yourself in the foot. Fair enough. > > an

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
x27;m attempting to package a single pure-Python egg, to be installed in the standard location. -- \"None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love | `\not freedom, but license." -- John Milton | _o__)

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
s: python-dev What other changes do I need to make for an 'arch: all' Python package? -- \"When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to | `\ ask is if they ever press charges." -- Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
s properly for me (AFAICT). Where are you saying that line should be moved to? -- \ "Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather | `\ straps." -- Emo Philips | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Using python-central for pure-Python package (was: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends})

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
How can this be done properly without knowing the exact name (including Python version) that Setuptools will create? -- \ "The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in | `\ the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind." | _o__)

Re: Using python-central for pure-Python package

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
my questions. -- \ "The man who is denied the opportunity of taking decisions of | `\ importance begins to regard as important the decisions he is | _o__) allowed to take." -- C. Northcote Parkinson | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Upstream Makefile, debian/rules, eggs, building and installing

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
stions that seem at a level typical for debian-mentors, but it's all specific to Debian packaging of Python packages, so I'm asking here. -- \ "Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted." -- Groucho Marx | `\

Re: Upstream Makefile, debian/rules, eggs, building and installing

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Ben Finney wrote: > > How should the Debian packaging files interact with this? Examples > > I've seen for using python-central have the egg being built in the > > Debian-specific debian/ru

Re: Proposed update to the python policy

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Finney
user has Python versions older than that concurrently installed. -- \ "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best | `\ way to predict the future is to invent it." -- Alan Kay | _o__)

Re: unicode in setup.py file causing RC bug

2007-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
ason, are bigots, those who cannot, are | `\ fools, and those who dare not, are slaves." -- "Lord" George | _o__) Gordon Noel Byron | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: maintainer field

2007-09-04 Thread Ben Finney
e of this means that the responsible person is the *only* one responsible, of course. -- \"Science doesn’t work by vote and it doesn’t work by | `\ authority." —Richard Dawkins, Big Mistake (The Guardian) | _o__)

Re: Python Egg Guidelines across distros

2007-09-07 Thread Ben Finney
to execute." -- Abelson & Sussman, | _o__) _Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs_ | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tool support for private modules

2007-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
o use them to conform to the policy. -- \ "God forbid that any book should be banned. The practice is as | `\ indefensible as infanticide." -- Dame Rebecca West | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 14:42 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > But the Python distutils and setuptools will install the modules > > to /usr/lib/site-python/. > > Hrm, they shouldn't. With a default setup, public m

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
s of the world flgkd!" —Kirsten Chevalier, | `\ rec.humor.oracle.d | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 18:37 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > How can I use the tools available — distutils, setuptools, > > debhelper — to install these package-specific modules to a > > package-specific location, su

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can I best conform to the [Debian policy for Python modules > specific to a single package]? As an example, here's a Python package I'm trying to get packaged for Debian. (I am the upstream author of this one, but I'm in

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-02 Thread Ben Finney
(Please preserve attribution lines on quoted material. I don't know who wrote what in the following.) Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 23:56 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > > > Hmm. I am hoping that "modify the programs [to

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
the problem very well. -- \ "I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to add." | `\ -- Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
mers can no longer get free music, they will have to | `\ buy the music in the formats we choose to put out." -- Steve | _o__) Heckler, VP of Sony Music, 2001 | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using > operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency > management, which seems to be the primary target market for > setuptools. This should, of course, read

Re: Tool support for private modules

2007-10-11 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 à 10:50 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > The main reason I use distutils is to assist those people using > > operating systems that *don't* have good package dependency > > management, whic

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-16 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the thread Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I asked > about package-private modules interacting with setuptools and the > Debian Python policy. In retrospect it seems I've got some more > fundamental learning to do. >

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-21 Thread Ben Finney
Sam Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 11:08 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > So, I ask for help with this specific package, in the hope that I > > can learn more general lessons about packaging software for both > > Python's Cheeseshop and the

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Finney
-- \ "Holy bouncing boiler-plated fits, Batman!" -- Robin | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-24 Thread Ben Finney
se that no packages meet that description? -- \ "No wonder I'm all confused; one of my parents was a woman, the | `\ other was a man." -- Ashleigh Brilliant | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Packaging software for Cheeseshop and Debian

2007-10-28 Thread Ben Finney
Sam Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 22:10 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > What packages in Debian can people recommend that use setuptools > > properly, and are packaged in accordance with the latest Debian > > Python policy? > > >

Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral

2008-01-06 Thread Ben Finney
or Python to import them. That's not happening though. -- \"For fast acting relief, try slowing down." -- Jane Wagner, | `\ via Lily Tomlin | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral

2008-01-06 Thread Ben Finney
ackage that depend on the installed modules? -- \ "Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a | `\ finite world is either a madman or an economist." -- Kenneth | _o__) Boulding | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

debhelper for python-central, problems with prerm/postinst (was: Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral)

2008-01-06 Thread Ben Finney
nvier 2008, vers 02:06, > Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > > > Should the default placement of 'dh_pycentral' be changed so that > > 'pycentral' is run early enough for programs in the package that > > depend on the installed modules? >

Re: debhelper for python-central, problems with prerm/postinst

2008-01-07 Thread Ben Finney
Vincent Bernat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:17:34 +1100, Ben Finney > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, how do Python-language packagers work around this bug > > currently? > > I don't use dh_installinit and I put the correct sni

Re: Python modules not installed correctly with pycentral

2008-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
xplanation, it's a very helpful summary of the discussion. -- \"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a | `\ good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he. —A. A. | _o__) Milne, _Winnie-the-Pooh_

debian/rules, moving generated egg-info directory to unversioned name

2008-01-08 Thread Ben Finney
`\ remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it | _o__) all my life." —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [python-odtwriter] package name wrong?

2008-02-10 Thread Ben Finney
s a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for | `\ a coffin.” —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian 4.1 and Python 2.5

2008-02-13 Thread Ben Finney
nt the user from seeing lots of search results? -- \ "Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except | `\for that rare story of which you happen to have first-hand | _o__) knowledge." -- Erwin Knoll | Ben Finney --

Current distutils-sig discussion on package management

2008-03-17 Thread Ben Finney
f expression for people we | `\ despise, we don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known (was: Current distutils-sig discussion on package management)

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Python distutils-sig group is currently discussing the topic of > package management, how setuptools interacts with package managers, > and what changes are desirable as a result. > > http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney writes: > > I have no knowledge of *what* the problems are; I only know that > > there are people in this group who persistently complain about how > > Python's current packaging practices are broken with

Re: Debian Python developers, make your packaging concerns known

2008-03-19 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > An explicit request to discuss Python packaging has been made (in a > new thread started today). > > http://mid.gname.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry, http://mid.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the correct one. -- \ &quo

Re: handling /usr/local/lib/python2.x/site-packages in sys.path

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Finney
ignorance.” —Thomas Jefferson | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Proposed new package, bugs-everywhere_0.0.193-1.1

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
u go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to | `\ ask is if they ever press charges." -- Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposed new package, bugs-everywhere_0.0.193-1.1

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
at | `\ the rate of 40,000 or even 4,000 per hour ..." -- F. H. Wales, | _o__) 1936 | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

VCS repository on Alioth projects with unrelated packages (was: Proposed new package, bugs-everywhere_0.0.193-1.1)

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
eave a message and I'll call when I'm out.'" -- Steven | _o__) Wright | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check license and copyright of files in entire tree (was: Proposed new package, bugs-everywhere_0.0.193-1.1)

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
Emilio, and everyone: a reminder to please continue following http://www.debian.org/MailingLists#codeofconduct>. In particular, please don't send individual copies of messages also sent to the list, since I haven't asked for that. Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Check license and copyright of files in entire tree

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:27:18PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > $ licensecheck --recursive --copyright . > > Just don't forget that it will skip a lot of file types by default. Thanks. From the program source, the default r

Re: VCS repository on Alioth projects with unrelated packages

2008-04-24 Thread Ben Finney
Simon McVittie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 at 22:04:58 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > Since my VCS preference, and that of my upstream, is Bazaar, this > > makes PAPT more of a burden than I was looking for. Alioth was > > attractive for this p

debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-17 Thread Ben Finney
ary-indep --after pysupport Does anyone know debhelper better than me, and can suggest ways to improve that package's current 'debian/rules' file to make better use of debhelper 7 with 'python-central'? -- \ "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does | `\

Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-17 Thread Ben Finney
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > Does anyone know debhelper better than me, and can suggest ways to > > improve that package's current 'debian/rules' file to make better use > > of debhelper 7 with 'python-central'?

Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Finney
ystem changes) part of the system, so belongs in /usr somewhere. -- \ "It seems intuitively obvious to me, which means that it might | `\be wrong." -- Chris Torek | _o__) | Ben

Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Finney
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:20:10PM +0000, Ben Finney wrote: > > Floris Bruynooghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "/var/lib : Variable state information [...] State information > > > is data that progr

Re: debhelper 7 and python-central

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Finney
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:59:05AM +0000, Ben Finney wrote: > > What makes you think 'foo.pyc' is /var material? > > Oh yes that seems obvious to me. In fact, I'd say it should be > /var/cache material becau

FHS location for Python libraries as locally-compiled bytecode (was: debhelper 7 and python-central)

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Finney
, my grandfather used to make me stand in a | `\ closet for five minutes without moving. He said it was elevator | _o__) practice." -- Steven Wright | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FHS location for Python libraries as locally-compiled bytecode

2008-05-21 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le mercredi 21 mai 2008 à 08:59 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > I don't see that it leads to storing the compiled programs to live > > under /var/, rather than /usr/ which to my mind is more appropriate > > for compile

Unexpected Depends: both python-central and python-support

2008-06-15 Thread Ben Finney
ing this, and how can I fix it so it doesn't have this unexpected extra dependency? -- \ "Ours is a world where people don't know what they want and are | `\willing to go through hell to get it." -- Donald Robert Perry | _o__)

dh_pycentral and dh_pysupport clash

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
; at all? How can I stop that and only use 'dh_pycentral' as requested, without breaking the package build in the absence of 'python-support'? -- \ “What I have to do is see, at any rate, that I do not lend | `\ myself to the wrong which I condemn.” —Henry Thoreau, _Civil | _o__)Disobedience_ | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dh_pycentral and dh_pysupport clash

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > = > .PHONY: install > install: build > dh --with python_central install --before pysupport > dh --with python_central install --after pysupport > > .PHONY: binary-indep > binary-indep: build install >

FHS location for locally-compiled bytecode (was: FHS location for Python libraries as locally-compiled bytecode)

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
A little while ago on debian-python, we discussed the location of system files that are executable bytecode, created by package management tools at install time, and how to comply with th FHS. Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: &g

Re: Best practice for test(s) directories?

2008-07-14 Thread Ben Finney
et it.” —Donald Robert Perry | _o__) Marquis | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Joining the team with new packages: rope and ropemacs

2008-07-29 Thread Ben Finney
7;devel' is the best section. The over-use of the 'python' section for packages that are merely implemented in Python makes it almost meaningless. -- \ “One seldom discovers a true believer that is worth knowing.” | `\ —Henry L.

pyinstall: A New Hope

2008-09-24 Thread Ben Finney
collect.” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pyinstall: A New Hope

2008-09-25 Thread Ben Finney
chel's Law: A body on vacation tends to remain on vacation | `\ unless acted upon by an outside force.” —Carol Reichel | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: help with writing a PEP to ease software distribution

2008-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
houlders.” —Hal Abelson | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-21 Thread Ben Finney
salary depends upon his not understanding it.” —Upton Sinclair, | _o__) 1935 | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-24 Thread Ben Finney
use and four people died.” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: /usr/local is loved by Debian Python people?

2009-02-02 Thread Ben Finney
r way? Perhaps, but the case has yet to be made why Python should be treated differently in this regard from so many other parts of the system. -- \ “I must say that I find television very educational. The minute | `\ somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a book.”

Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Ben Finney
explanation for the necessity of freezing ‘unstable’ when preparing to release ‘testing’? -- \ “A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of | `\ five.” —Groucho Marx | _o__)

Re: Frozen unstable

2009-02-05 Thread Ben Finney
cial position. I'm grateful to have received it so promptly. -- \ “What you have become is the price you paid to get what you | `\ used to want.” —Mignon McLaughlin | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNS

Compiled bytecode files location (was: Python related changes for unstable/squeeze)

2009-02-17 Thread Ben Finney
g issue keeping me with ‘python-central’ for my packages. -- \ “He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let | `\ that fool you. He really is an idiot.” —Groucho Marx | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: Compiled bytecode files location

2009-02-19 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mercredi 18 février 2009 à 13:33 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : > > I saw no response to Message-ID: <87skwceynw@benfinney.id.au> > > on this forum, but would love to be convinced this will be fixed. > > This is probably the last rema

Re: Leaving DPMT?

2009-02-27 Thread Ben Finney
nges. Definitely. This advocacy is not at all intended as demand for change. -- \ “Don't be afraid of missing opportunities. Behind every failure | `\ is an opportunity somebody wishes they had missed.” —Jane | _o__) Wagner, via Lily Tomlin | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Leaving DPMT?

2009-02-27 Thread Ben Finney
Sandro Tosi writes: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:11, Ben Finney wrote: > > I see this discussion focussing exclusively on Subversion versus > > Git; I wish with this message to point out that not all DVCSen are > > necessarily like Git. > > WTF?! As Ondrej said jus

Re: Leaving DPMT?

2009-02-27 Thread Ben Finney
Ondrej Certik writes: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Ben Finney > wrote: > > Certainly, if someone can point me to the right thread. > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=debian+python+git+svn&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= > > it's the 4th

Developer workflow and DVCS (was: Leaving DPMT?)

2009-02-27 Thread Ben Finney
ning system', which one should really keep in mind when > discussing such changes. Definitely. This advocacy is not at all intended as demand for change. -- \ “Don't be afraid of missing opportunities. Behind every failure | `\ is an opportunity somebody wishes they had miss

Re: Developer workflow and DVCS

2009-02-28 Thread Ben Finney
Sandro Tosi writes: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 02:21, Ben Finney wrote: > > I see this discussion focussing on Subversion versus Git; I wish > > with this message to point out that's a false dichotomy, as not > > all DVCSen are necessarily like Git. > > Wanna

Re: Developer workflow and DVCS

2009-02-28 Thread Ben Finney
David Cournapeau writes: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ben Finney > wrote: > > > > This issue is avoidable if the repository is a Bazaar one: > > But what does it solve ? The main problem with downloading the whole > history is the time taken. The only way

Re: Developer workflow and DVCS

2009-03-01 Thread Ben Finney
Sandro Tosi writes: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 23:00, Ben Finney wrote: > > his opinion surely counts less than the opinion of those who > > intend to use these repositories. I don't see why you bring that > > up. > > You too are not using our repository (be

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Finney
positions.” —Adlai Stevenson | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Piotrek's new preferred Python helper tool - (unfair) decision

2009-03-02 Thread Ben Finney
Cyril Brulebois writes: > Piotr Ożarowski (03/03/2009): > > [Cyril Brulebois, 2009-03-03] > > > Piotr Ożarowski (02/03/2009): > > > > [Ben Finney, 2009-03-02] > > > > > Why does [removal of links created by ‘python-central’] not > > > >

Migrating a package from from python-central: cleaning up (was: Piotrek's new preferred helper tool - (unfair) decision)

2009-03-03 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Migrating a package from from python-central: cleaning up

2009-03-09 Thread Ben Finney
Piotr Ożarowski writes: > [Ben Finney, 2009-03-04] > > As noted elsewhere, this is to overcome behaviour (discussed in > > http://bugs.debian.org/479852>) > > I'm a little bit busy these days (so I didn't check pycentral's > code... yet), but isn&#

Re: Package names for docutils writers

2009-03-11 Thread Ben Finney
tered the archive (Ben > Finney). It obviously uses a completely different naming scheme and > provides a small rst2man binary package which only contains the > frontend. And then there is rst2pdf (Chris Lamb) which does the > all-in-one thing in a single eponymous .deb. > > Since I

Re: Package names for docutils writers

2009-03-12 Thread Ben Finney
d? How does on go about doing that, exactly? -- \ “It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh | `\at that man.” —Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBS

Re: Package names for docutils writers

2009-03-20 Thread Ben Finney
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Anticipating the migration: python-support 0.90 in unstable (was: Package names for docutils writers)

2009-03-25 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Preparing for the new python-support

2009-04-06 Thread Ben Finney
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Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
Cyril Brulebois writes: > Ben Finney (14/04/2009): > > As per bug#523965 http://bugs.debian.org/523965>, I'm attempting > > to migrate the ‘docutils-manpage-writer’ package from using > > ‘python-central’ to using ‘python-support’. > > *-writer-manp

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney writes: > Cyril Brulebois writes: > > Put them into /usr/lib/python*/site-packages, as documented in its > > manpage? > > What, though, is ‘python*’ here? Remember, this is specifically for a > module that (at present) has no build system upstream; the

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
Cyril Brulebois writes: > Ben Finney (14/04/2009): > > I'm not very familiar with using ‘python-support’, so I'm not clear > > what I need to change in these rules. Where do I need to install the > > library files for them to be properly discovered by ‘dh_pysuppor

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mardi 14 avril 2009 à 16:51 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > = > > --- > > docutils-writer-manpage-0.1~svn.r5663/debian/docutils-writer-manpage.install > > +++ > > docutils-writer-manpage-0.1~svn.r5663/debian/docutils-wr

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mardi 14 avril 2009 à 22:09 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > Where should I put the upstream library files so that the above > > ‘docutils-writer-manpage.install’ is not needed and ‘dh_pysupport’ > > will get them automatically? I have

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 08:01 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : > > Because it's double-handling: in the ‘debian/rules’ file I specify > > copying the modules once, and then in ‘debian/foo.install’ I specify > > copying them again. I want to

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Piotr Ożarowski writes: > [Ben Finney, 2009-04-15] > > The only way that I know of so far to get ‘dh_pysupport’ to find and > > install the module correctly is: > > > > * Copy the file from ‘writers/manpage.py’ into ‘usr/lib/$(shell > > pyversions -d)/site-p

Re: Migrating unmanaged Python library extension from ‘python-central’ to ‘python -support’

2009-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Adeodato Simó writes: > + Ben Finney (Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:19:55 +1000): > > > * Copy the file from ‘writers/manpage.py’ into ‘usr/lib/$(shell > > pyversions -d)/site-packages/docutils/writers/.’. If I omit this step, > > there is no indication that the

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