Re: M4000 failing to boot Debian Sparc64

2023-07-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 7/3/23 05:47, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On Mon, 2023-07-03 at 05:28 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: I don't think that's true. Since it has been reported that these machines run OpenBSD, it should be a matter of reading the OpenBSD kernel sources and add the missing bits

Re: M4000 failing to boot Debian Sparc64

2023-07-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 7/2/23 17:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Dennis! Good day to you Sir! On Sun, 2023-07-02 at 14:34 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: You are likely kicking a dead horse. That M4000 is similar to my M3000 and you will never ever get Linux to run there. Ever. Unless you have a few

Re: M4000 failing to boot Debian Sparc64

2023-07-02 Thread Dennis Clarke
%TSTATE:4480001604 %PSTATE:16 ( IE:1 PRIV:1 PEF:1 ) (2) from the default install option Loading ... ERROR: Last Trap: Division by Zero %TL:1 %TT:28 %TPC:10abf30 %TnPC:10abf34 %TSTATE:4480001604 %PSTATE:16 ( IE:1 PRIV:1 PEF:1 ) {0} ok -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC Four decades

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

2023-06-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 6/7/23 04:03, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Wed, 2023-06-07 at 03:36 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: One of the first things I plan on doing is a bootstrap of GCC 13.x and then also binutils ( maybe? maybe not? ) and of course a kernel. That will keep the machine thrashing

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

2023-06-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC Four decades in production systems.

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

2023-06-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 6/7/23 03:17, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! On Wed, 2023-06-07 at 03:10 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: Sadly the machine isa bit of a brick. Maybe NetBSD works? No idea. However a much older and smaller UltraSPARC IIi Netra seems to be working just perfect. I am doing the install now

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

2023-06-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
the install now, live, streaming on YouTube. To say the least it is a slow and boring stream :) But it works ! -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC Four decades in production systems.

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

2023-06-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
: Division by Zero %TL:1 %TT:28 %TPC:10abf30 %TnPC:10abf34 %TSTATE:4480001604 %PSTATE:16 ( IE:1 PRIV:1 PEF:1 ) {0} ok Sadly this machine seems to be nothing but a fancy brick with 64G of expensive ECC memory etc etc. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC Four decades in production systems.

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2023-06-06

2023-06-06 Thread Dennis Clarke
the process on the Fujitsu SPARC64 M3000 unit and even stream it live on YouTube just to have witnesses see how it all goes up in flames. https://www.youtube.com/@lastmiles/streams -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC Four decades in production systems.

Re: Current kernels run stable on older SPARC systems

2023-06-06 Thread Dennis Clarke
are UltraSPARC II or IIi or anything close to a III or IIIi. I do have a Fujitsu SPARC64 server but that thing seems to be unable to boot/run anything other than Solaris 10 or perhaps 11.3. I should give it a test with the latest updated install images you have built. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC

Re: Debian SID on Ultra 30

2023-03-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
ost-status. Issue that command. If the result looks sane then "setenv diag-switch? false" and boot the system as per normal. Just my thoughts from the distant memories. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-16 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/16/22 04:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Dennis! On 5/16/22 03:58, Dennis Clarke wrote: The last update released for 11.3 is called "Oracle Solaris 11.3 Limited Support Updates (LSRU) 11.3.36.24.0" and can be found on some torrent sites. I have 11.3 but need

Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
nsupported hardware. The Lawnmower strikes again. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/15/22 14:58, Chris Quayle wrote: On 05/15/22 15:57, Chris Newport wrote: On 15/05/2022 14:52, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 5/14/22 17:52, Rick Leir wrote:  From folks who have tried? Sorry, no. If the info below is not helpful, sorry and please just delete my message. Is illumos or SmartOS

Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/15/22 16:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! On 5/15/22 15:52, Dennis Clarke wrote: Yep .. been there and read that. Even if any of those did work at all we are going in a circle and landing back on some Solaris thing. That is not really of any value any more. It is beginning

Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
back on some Solaris thing. That is not really of any value any more. It is beginning to sound a lot like Oracle sold a whack of machines to people about ten years ago and they are all dead pieces of trash and junk today. Nothing runs there any more. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX

Re: Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
Best regards, JKB The FreeBSD folks have been perfectly clear that sparc is dead to them. So no. Anyways I was curious about the Debian port. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Anyone ever tried Debian on a Fujitsu/Oracle M3000 ?

2022-05-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
is a brick. Or is it ? Is there any reasonable way to : [A] netboot Debian [B] toss it on a scrap heap for re-cycle Would love to hear any input from folks who have tried. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

sparc64 kernel bug

2022-04-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
/22 23:54, Dennis Clarke wrote: > No, I am not. I am going with whatever is in the Makefile. > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/fc7c028dcdbfe981bca75d2a7b95f363eb691ef3 > > So this was seen before regardless. Please just follow my advise and use Linus' tree and don't use a

Re: nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/3/22 12:13, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/3/22 17:19, Dennis Clarke wrote: I am curious if you can get the linux-4.19.114 kernel to compile. For me it just blows up with : . . . arch/sparc/kernel/mdesc.c: In function 'mdesc_node_by_name': arch/sparc/kernel/mdesc.c:648:22: error

Re: nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
make[1]: *** [scripts/Makefile.build:544: arch/sparc/kernel] Error 2 make: *** [Makefile:1053: arch/sparc] Error 2 Not sure what to make of that. Drat : https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/fc7c028dcdbfe981bca75d2a7b95f363eb691ef3 So something after 4.19.114 may work. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V

Re: nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
change in that source file. Regardless, this is just a hunch without a shred of proof. Yet. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/3/22 07:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On 4/3/22 13:42, Dennis Clarke wrote: But since you seem to have a reliable reproducer, you can start trying to bisect the kernel to find the commit that introduced this regression. That will be nearly impossible. I can not even recall

Re: nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/2/22 03:30, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello Dennis! On 4/2/22 03:34, Dennis Clarke wrote: I am not so sure about this yet until I can rebuild the required grub binaries with full debug info. For at least a year ( or more ) I have seen "really bad things"(tm) happen

Re: nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
machine will try to boot the diag-device which is simply "net" and yes the machine can netboot fine. That works. I will break and stop it and then boot local linux and we get a machine with well tested ECC memory. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

nasty bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe

2022-04-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
331] [<00693500>] path_openat+0xb20/0x10e0 [16186.308347] [<006948c0>] do_filp_open+0x60/0x100 [16186.378220] [<00000067dcf0>] do_sys_openat2+0x70/0x180 [16186.450380] [<0067e1e8>] sys_openat+0x48/0xc0 [16186.516820] [<00406174>] linux_sparc_syscall+0x34/0x44 So therefore I think that there is a bug in /usr/sbin/grub-probe and it really kills the whole "make install" process from within the Linux kernel source tree or any other way you choose to run it. Has anyone else seen this ? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2022-03-28

2022-03-31 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/31/22 14:53, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: Hi, On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 04:30:52PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 3/29/22 15:48, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: # dd if=/cdrom/test/debian_20220328/debian-11.0.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso of=/dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0 bs=2048 count=189529 dd

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2022-03-28

2022-03-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/29/22 15:48, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Dennis Clarke wrote: # dd if=/cdrom/test/debian_20220328/debian-11.0.0-sparc64-NETINST-1.iso of=/dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0 bs=2048 count=189529 dd: unexpected short write, wrote 1536 bytes, expected 2048 65725+0 records in 65725+0 records out So

Updated Debian Ports installation images 2022-03-28

2022-03-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
up the netinst installer image. How cool would that be? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Booting a T5140 panics

2021-11-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
here it just panics. I am going to try, next week?, to boot a Fujitsu/Oracle M4000 unit that is laying around in my life. Should be a right royal disaster but I will certainly report progress. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2021-09-23

2021-10-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
der sparc netra gear. I just tested the SPARC64 install image and it works wonderfully. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Debian Installation on Ultra 30 (was Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2021-09-23)

2021-09-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
across architectures. I don't even know if that was ever documented. I have not even tried that for a few decades. I am quite sure that one may have eight disk regions without issue and they may overlap one another. That results in the old "backup" slice. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Update Debian Ports installation images 2021-04-14

2021-04-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/19/21 08:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/19/21 2:13 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> I have done some testing with an old Netra server and everything seems >> fine with the exception of gdb which is broken. Seems to be fixed for >> the gdb 10.2 release which i

Re: Update Debian Ports installation images 2021-04-14

2021-04-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
of gdb which is broken. Seems to be fixed for the gdb 10.2 release which is coming any day real soon now : Bug 27750 - local variables have wrong address and values on sparc64 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27750 Otherwise the basics all seem fine. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-

Re: update-grub and then grub-mkconfig leads to the watchdog: BUG: soft lockup

2021-03-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
333.205549] [<00660330>] do_sys_openat2+0x70/0x180 >>> [ 1333.277710] [<00660868>] sys_openat+0x48/0xc0 >>> [ 1333.344164] [<00406174>] linux_sparc_syscall+0x34/0x44 >>> ~ >>> Type 'go' to resume >>> ok >> >> &g

update-grub and then grub-mkconfig leads to the watchdog: BUG: soft lockup

2021-03-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
piler installed. So I will look into this tomorrow. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [systemd:1]

2021-03-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/14/21 5:52 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 3/14/21 6:48 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: >>> So, if, for example, you want to verify that the memory is okay, you should >>> run >>> a memtest program. >> >> ...the built-in (memory) diagnostics of Sun machines are pretty >> thorough. This

Re: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [systemd:1]

2021-03-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/13/21 5:29 PM, Mike Tremaine wrote: >> On Mar 12, 2021, at 5:56 AM, >> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> I have seen this for a few months now. The old old netra machine will >> run just fine endlessly but if I attempt to perform a package update >> then I am al

watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [systemd:1]

2021-03-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
ize that the old old Netra X1 or Netra T1 is well past its prime but it does run very stable. I would love to fire up a big Oracle M4000 unit to try but I have not heard from anyone anywhere that knows if that can work at all. So for now these old netra units are all that I can test with. -- Den

Re: update-grub causes a system lockup

2021-01-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/12/21 12:47 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/12/21 1:39 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> I made a few minor edits to /etc/default/grub and then : >> >> root@ceres:~# update-grub >> [ 303.211729] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! >

update-grub causes a system lockup

2021-01-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
ing fault. I am walking through it line by line and trying to find the culprit. Also this has been happening for months. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub-ieee1275' failed

2021-01-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/9/21 1:12 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/9/21 1:53 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> I think this is pretty much well known but I will report it here >> regardless. From the latest sparc64 installer images I eventually >> see grub-ieee1275 fails.

Re: grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub-ieee1275' failed

2021-01-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/9/21 1:12 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/9/21 1:53 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> I think this is pretty much well known but I will report it here >> regardless. From the latest sparc64 installer images I eventually >> see grub-ieee1275 fails.

grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub-ieee1275' failed

2021-01-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
apt-install grub-ieee1275' failed The entire log is at https://beta.genunix.com/debian_boot/sparc64/syslog_2021-01-03.txt I think, for the moment, the ppc64 installer is a higher priority. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated installer images 2020-12-03

2020-12-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
e user mode and then from there to bring up the server to full multi-user mode whereupon everything seems to "just work" and that includes the improved and fixed gcc : https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=97939 Surprised that bug was in the sparc64 world since at least

Setting up systemd throws a fit. Actually any update does the same.

2020-12-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
l problem is ... but if I can dig into it then let me know. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

sparc64 NETINST with firmware 20201116-08:10 seems to work great

2020-11-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
) sparc64 GNU/Linux Seems to be working just fine on an old Netra. In the past the update process would always create a panic due to some oddity in the grub stage of things. I have not yet tested for that. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders

Re: Unrecognized magic number in media label

2020-11-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/28/20 6:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/28/20 11:12 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Everything seems to just work fine. Until reboot wherein I see : >> >> Boot device: /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/scsi@2/disk@0,0:a File and args: >> Unrecognized magic number i

Unrecognized magic number in media label

2020-10-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
disk label package Evaluating: boot Can't open boot device ok I am guessing that my mistake was to use a gpt label on the boot disk and the old firmware on this test Netra machine can only grok a sun label. Just a guess. Let me know if this seems reasonable. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC

An attempt to update the kernel results in a panic

2020-10-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
] do_filp_open+0x50/0xc0 [ 4460.528650] [00632a30] do_sys_open+0x170/0x260 [ 4460.597379] [00632b80] sys_openat+0x20/0x40 [ 4460.662688] [00406154] linux_sparc_syscall+0x34/0x44 ~ Type 'go' to resume ok Not sure if there is a way to fix this or if it is already known. -- Dennis

Re: Bug#965342: openjdk-15: Please update build configuration for sparc64

2020-07-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
us ZFS and some other items. However that CDDL license disaster is just a mess. A minefield mess. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

watchdog: BUG: soft lockup with most recent sparc64 installer

2020-04-23 Thread Dennis Clarke
can boot the linux 5.7-rc2 initrd and other goodness. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: 2020-04-19 debian-10.0-sparc64 NETINST working fine sort of but libc6-dev ???

2020-04-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2020-04-21 14:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/21/20 8:01 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Looks like a version problem : phobos# apt-get install libc6-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed

Re: 2020-04-19 debian-10.0-sparc64 NETINST working fine sort of but libc6-dev ???

2020-04-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2020-04-21 12:59, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 2020-04-21 12:29, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/21/20 5:40 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: . . . root@phobos:~# apt-get install build-essential xauth libx11-dev autoconf bison gdb Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading

Re: 2020-04-19 debian-10.0-sparc64 NETINST working fine sort of but libc6-dev ???

2020-04-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2020-04-21 13:02, Gregor Riepl wrote: Ah well, that certainly explains that. Seems deb-src does not exist either. I think you should use the regular Debian source repo. There is no "special" ports source repo. OKay, thank you. That seems to work great. Dennis

Re: 2020-04-19 debian-10.0-sparc64 NETINST working fine sort of but libc6-dev ???

2020-04-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2020-04-21 13:02, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/21/20 6:59 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Debian Ports has neither "contrib" nor "non-free". Ah well, that certainly explains that. Seems deb-src does not exist either. No, because the sources are available on the

Re: 2020-04-19 debian-10.0-sparc64 NETINST working fine sort of but libc6-dev ???

2020-04-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2020-04-21 12:29, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/21/20 5:40 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: root@phobos:~# cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.orig root@phobos:~# root@phobos:~# vi /etc/apt/sources.list root@phobos:~# root@phobos:~# root@phobos:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list

2020-04-19 debian-10.0-sparc64 NETINST working fine sort of but libc6-dev ???

2020-04-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
Depends: g++ (>= 4:9.2) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. root@phobos:~# root@phobos:~# date -u Tue Apr 21 04:49:58 UTC 2020 root@phobos:~# Oh no. libc6-dev is a problem ?? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and L

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2020-04-19

2020-04-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
smooth and no surprises at all. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Information about blade 2500 and ultra 45

2020-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
;. Just not sure how one gets the thing to boot install media or even the net inst image. Perhaps TFTP and BOOTP ?? Any input would be lovely. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: [BUG]: Testsuite fails on Linux sparc64 in t-cmp_d

2019-08-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
or M4000 equipment and most of my older stuff is just laying in a pile in a warehouse. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/11/19 10:05 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/11/19 3:37 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: A few folks from Oracle got back to me and let me know that they don't have Linux on sparc at all. Period.  Some stupid sales rep just says to me "yes, sure, we run that !" when in fact

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
to be sure. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
with an Oracle salesrep about the new 5GHz T8 and he assures me that Oracle has Linux running there. Oracle Linux v6 and v7 run there. He says. Well I see Oracle Linux as just a variation on the RHEL sources. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders

Re: I have to ask .. has anyone tried SPARC T7 ? SPARC S7? SPARC T8?

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/9/19 4:20 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/9/19 10:18 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: I had some S7-2 units in a project and was fairly impressed with what they could do. Of all things they were MySql servers and with fibre attached storage they were really impressive units. Just

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/9/19 4:02 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/9/19 9:59 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: The big blocker for me is that the M4000 needs 240V power supply. Otherwise I would run it at home. I thought you can get 240 volts in the US when using a two-phase power outlet. Well a UPS is needed

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
is someone else taking it on, I can offer PP450 access. M4000, PP650 and PP250 are away in storage. The big blocker for me is that the M4000 needs 240V power supply. Otherwise I would run it at home. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
erfect for this sort of thing. I know that I have one of those in the warehouse. However I think they need FCAL disks. Anyways I will give that a look see and also I hope serial console works out of the box. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
It can't be that that much of an issue, because OpenBSD runs on these machines (according to [4] and my tests on serveral PRIMEPOWER 250s). And for the Linux kernel you can actually see some Linux kernel messages before the machine experiences a red state exception... [4]:

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/9/19 1:52 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 5/9/19 19:42, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 5/9/19 1:35 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Hi Dennis, On 5/9/19 18:29, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 5/9/19 12:24 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! I just uploaded updated installation images 2019-05-09

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/9/19 1:35 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Hi Dennis, On 5/9/19 18:29, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 5/9/19 12:24 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! I just uploaded updated installation images 2019-05-09 for the following Debian Ports architectures:   * alpha   * hppa   * ia64   * m68k

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/9/19 12:32 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/9/19 6:29 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: I tried to breath life into an old Netra which was just too old for the task. Are you aware of any issues with the M3000 type machine? Or even M4000 ? I have never touched any of those machines

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-05-09

2019-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
was just too old for the task. Are you aware of any issues with the M3000 type machine? Or even M4000 ? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Will try debian-10.0-sparc64-grub-NETINST-1.iso

2019-05-06 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/5/19 8:56 PM, Chris Ross wrote: On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 07:40:20PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: I see https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/ and have fetched debian-10.0-sparc64-grub-NETINST-1.iso which may work on a very very old netra test unit. A Netra X1 in fact. However

Will try debian-10.0-sparc64-grub-NETINST-1.iso

2019-05-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
/NFS or is it better to mess around with a physical CDROM ? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-12

2019-04-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
>* powerpc/ppc64 > - The bootloader installation still defaults to Yaboot and > is being switched to GRUB for IBM POWER and PowerMacs, > please report any issues you find. I see GRUB installed fine and no yaboot anywhere to be seen. That is a good thing. :-) > - On some

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-10

2019-04-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/11/19 11:05 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! I just uploaded updated installation images for the following Debian Ports architectures: Fails to install GRUB same as before. The script /usr/lib/grub-installer/mkhfs-bootstrap.sh is not an executable file ? Dennis

Re: installing NETINST 20190127

2019-01-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/28/19 8:01 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/28/19 1:52 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: @Rick: I thought about something like this since Mark reported the bootstrap limits in OpenBIOS. It could in principle work similar to the switch between non-GPT and GPT capable SPARC hardware ([1]).

Re: sparc 32bit userland?

2019-01-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/27/19 2:40 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Sunday 2019-01-27 20:25, Dennis Clarke wrote: On a side note: As you also added sparc, say, is it planned to revive the 32bit sparc userland? :-) oh please .. no. Although I don't have much of a preference for 32bit sparc userland

Re: sparc 32bit userland?

2019-01-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/27/19 2:20 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 1/27/19 20:11, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 1/27/19 2:08 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 1/27/19 19:50, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/27/19 4:24 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Although, oddly enough, I didn't see this issue on sparc64, so

Re: sparc 32bit userland?

2019-01-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/27/19 2:08 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 1/27/19 19:50, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/27/19 4:24 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Although, oddly enough, I didn't see this issue on sparc64, so it might be that I have just forgotten to add the package for powerpc after it moved

Re: Any progress with grub-installer?

2019-01-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/7/19 3:14 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Jan 7, 2019, at 9:07 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 1/7/19 16:35, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/7/19 4:31 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I tried to install GRUB using a ELF boot image: root@debian:~/grub2# grub-install

Re: Any progress with grub-installer?

2019-01-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/7/19 10:35 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/7/19 4:31 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I tried to install GRUB using a ELF boot image: Now we just need to test this on a machine with a Sun partition table. I can drag out an old sparc for that easily. Dennis

Re: xserver problem 9.0-sparc64 netinst

2018-12-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/4/18 6:14 AM, Gregor Riepl wrote: There were very few options for the old sun ultra5. It was to be a sun experiment into low cost PC-like dirt cheap slapped together low-end workstations. So the graphics options were bottom dollar. The ultra10 had the benefit of actual OpenGL ready

Re: xserver problem 9.0-sparc64 netinst

2018-12-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/3/18 4:10 PM, Fred wrote: On 12/03/2018 12:29 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 12/3/18 2:18 PM, Fred wrote: On 12/03/2018 10:14 AM, Phillip Stevens wrote: Mach64 (PGX24 PGX64) driver is not working. Also Radeon (XVR-100) is not working. Hi Dennis, I thought the U5 was exactly like

Re: xserver problem 9.0-sparc64 netinst

2018-12-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/3/18 2:18 PM, Fred wrote: On 12/03/2018 10:14 AM, Phillip Stevens wrote: Mach64 (PGX24 PGX64) driver is not working. Also Radeon (XVR-100) is not working. ... I don't know what Mach64 is.  The computer is a plain U5 with 512K ram. The only card plugged in is a USB card.  Should I

Re: Bug#905829: mozjs52: tests fail on sparc64: numeric operations expecting NaN get undefined instead

2018-08-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/10/2018 06:34 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: Source: mozjs52 Version: 52.9.1-1 Severity: normal User: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Usertags: sparc64 Lots of mozjs52 tests fail on sparc64 because the test does some numeric operation that expects NaN (not a number) as result, but gets undefined

Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/08/2018 11:27 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 08/08/2018 05:23 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: pssst ... there is nothing in the silo.conf of netinst.iso for sun4v and that had me wondering. Why though? sun4v is fully backwards-compatible ... Well hey .. everything else under

Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/08/2018 11:03 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Wednesday 2018-08-08 16:55, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 08/08/2018 04:44 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Well yes .. however it is sitting inside a rack in a remote datacenter and that makes life a real drag.  Sort of why I like network based

Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/08/2018 10:14 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 08/08/2018 04:08 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: However it is not really clear how to do that over tftp and nfs. I have a bootp server running and can deliver some bootable image to the machine but the whole sparc64-NETINST iso probably

NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dear sparc64 folks : Happily I have a NETRA Sparc T4-1 here to test with : Netra SPARC T4-1, No Keyboard Copyright (c) 1998, 2018, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. OpenBoot 4.38.13, 31.5000 GB memory available, Serial #106357246. Ethernet address

Re: Latest netinst iso

2018-08-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
02:01.1 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61) 02:01.2 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63) Best regards, Fred The above two USB lines need to go up to the lspci list. Thunderbird had trouble with pasting the large block of

Re: Latest netinst iso

2018-08-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/07/2018 12:17 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Frank Scheiner wrote: as my Ultra 10 has a CDROM drive installed instead of a DVDROM drive I was mislead to write "CDROM drive" "DVD" gives a hint of the age of the drive. Everything from this century should be driven by SCSI commands

What is the situation with newer sparc hardware?

2018-08-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
There was a problem with the M3000 Fujitsu units and other than that has anyone tried a newer machine? Dennis

Re: Anyone interested in a SunFire V240?

2018-05-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
This is not a sales maillist. Also, that machine is not worth the cost of shipping. Dennis

trying the M3000 with Fujitsu SPARC VII+ cpu

2018-05-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
Without getting into the silly bits about tftp/rarp setup etc I can tell you with authority that the file name fetched does NOT have the "SUN4U" suffix. Well I was running wireshark elsewhere and watched the whole show up until packet 15943 : TFTP: Opcode = 3 (data packet) TFTP: Data block =

Re: sparc64 debian netboot chicken and egg

2018-05-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 05/14/2018 05:18 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 05/14/2018 10:46 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Oh no worries. I get it that this is a moving picture and nothing is carved in stone.  I just wonder if there is a way to get back to a full primary architecture with sparc64 as opposed

Re: sparc64 debian netboot chicken and egg

2018-05-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 05/14/2018 04:03 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 05/14/2018 08:37 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Looking at https://wiki.debian.org/Sparc64#Network_booting it says :     "If you already have a working installation of Debian GNU/Linux   Sid for sparc64" nope. So this

Re: 8e9800 Fast Data Access MMU Miss

2018-05-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 05/14/2018 04:00 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 05/14/2018 08:27 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: But as the GRUB2 part alone is already useful for people that are familiar with the supporting service infrastructure, I just finished up this part and put it into the Debian wiki. I will add more

regarding the M3000 issue on the wiki

2018-05-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
It may be worth testing an M3000 unit that has a Fujitsu SPARC-VII+ processor in it. I have one : $ psrinfo -pv The physical processor has 8 virtual processors (0-7) SPARC64-VII+ (portid 1024 impl 0x7 ver 0xa1 clock 2860 MHz) System PROM revisions: -- OBP 4.33.5.d

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