Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 21:21:33 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > > The objective of Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside appears to be to put > > the user in his place. > > > Strangely, I got many thanks from this user, when I explained to him > about the fact that "top posting"

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:21:33PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 3:19 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > The previous remark about following all the different messages from > > -user is insulting,

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 3:19 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > The previous remark about following all the different messages from > -user is insulting, nevermind condescending. > It is of basic logic to see something as a whole before expressing

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi Greg, On 2021-08-04 3:30 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:19:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> The problem has now become the user? Who may be ignored, of course? > > The question, I think, is whether this *particular* user has crossed > the line from "well-meaning but

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:34:20 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Thank you David for the reminder > > I'm afraid that August sneaked up on me without me noticing. I've reposted > the FAQ and I've used some of the suggestions you've outlined in a new piece > about how to ask smart questions and

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread mick crane
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Re: Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Thank you David for the reminder I'm afraid that August sneaked up on me without me noticing. I've reposted the FAQ and I've used some of the suggestions you've outlined in a new piece about how to ask smart questions and read answers. The general advice that is often given to go away and read

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 13:31:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > Here's what I would suggest to Gunnar, and to anyone else who is not > getting the responses they want from a mailing list: > > 1) Only try to solve one problem at a time. [ … ] > > 2) Put all of the information you have into one

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 12:35:29 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >>> What command do you use ? > >>> Mostly the answer would be NO > >> *still waiting for answer* > > > > Seriously? You /wait/ for answers here? > > (Dare I say it), you /want/ another post from the OP? > No

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:19:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: > The problem has now become the user? Who may be ignored, of course? The question, I think, is whether this *particular* user has crossed the line from "well-meaning but failing" to malicious. I think they're still on the well-meaning side,

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 20:48:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 02:00:25PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > but I do dislike the general tone. It is obvious that the OP is

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 02:00:25PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > but I do dislike the general tone. It is obvious that the OP is > > having a hard time to express him/herself understandably [...] > Sorry, but

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 14:00:25 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > >> Hi, > > > >> I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. >

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 19:18:38 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. > > for example: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00167.html

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 1:18 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Hi, > >> I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. > > for example: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00167.html > > but I

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi Greg, On 2021-08-04 1:31 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:35:29PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Go try IRC and you'll see that this "Gunnar" is far from a exception and >> trolling may be the rule on such system (IRC). > > At the moment, I see no

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:35:29PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Go try IRC and you'll see that this "Gunnar" is far from a exception and > trolling may be the rule on such system (IRC). At the moment, I see no evidence that Gunnar is trolling, although obviously I could be

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 12:42:28PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > I don't know where you saw insinuation of malice. for example: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/08/msg00167.html but I do dislike the general tone. It is obvious that the OP is having a hard

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 9:12 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:35:46AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> Intentioinally top posting: This whole exchange, in various threads, seems >> to >> be bordering on the toxic and I'd like to see it improved somehow. > > Thanks.

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, >>> What command do you use ? >>> Mostly the answer would be NO >> *still waiting for answer* > > Seriously? You /wait/ for answers here? > (Dare I say it), you /want/ another post from the OP? No I don't wait for answer. It's just a way to politely explain that if you want people to

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 06:55:02 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 6:49 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > Thx > Thanks, nothing prohibit you from writing complete words. > > If you want really to get help maybe read and answer questions people > ask you ? And not

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 08:35:46AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Intentioinally top posting: This whole exchange, in various threads, seems to > be bordering on the toxic and I'd like to see it improved somehow. Thanks. Helping someone to improve isn't a justification to jump all over

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread rhkramer
Intentioinally top posting: This whole exchange, in various threads, seems to be bordering on the toxic and I'd like to see it improved somehow. Suggestions? On Wednesday, August 04, 2021 06:55:02 AM Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-04 6:49 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > Thx

Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-04 6:49 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Thx Thanks, nothing prohibit you from writing complete words. If you want really to get help maybe read and answer questions people ask you ? And not only ask others, because it's starting to be politely useless here. > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2021,