With Jessie 8.6, gdm3 and XDMCP, the GDM face browser is built but not displayed (without the attached file)

2016-10-12 Thread Jean-Paul Bouchet
Hello, I have sent yesterday the following message (slightly modified this morning) but committed the mistake to attach a too big file (I thought that a file of 27700 bytes was not too large - Sorry...). Maybe some of you have already received it, but I think that it is not the case for most

Re: Linux source address selection (Was Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.)

2016-10-12 Thread rhkramer
Hi Andy, Thanks very much! It looks like quite a comprehensive answer (including links) that I'll surely have to read more than once to absorb. (At that point, I'll ask more questions if I feel the need.) regards, Randy Kramer On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:18:38 PM Andy Smith wrote: > On

face header

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Hector
Anyone know how I can (in Icedove) either stop displaying the 'face' header, or display it nicely as a picture? There are a couple of users on here that have them, and they result in a huge header section of the icedove display, leaving about 5 lines for the content of the message. I have the 'Di

Re: Recommendation: Backup system

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Hector
On 07/10/16 23:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I don't know whether dirvish does something to improve matters, but with > hard link trees, if you have lots of little files (such as Maildir archives > of busy mailing lists like LKML), the amount of space consumed by the file > system metadata to repre

Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
Greetings I am observing a strange behaviour and I am wondering what stupid thing I have done that is causing it. A shell command that is supposed to start fetchmail running every 15 minutes works fine run from the command line, but has no effect when run from inside a script. I am running Jes

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:34:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > # The systemctl stop for svnserve may not work as I haven't got around to > # making a stop script for it. > # So kill the process the old fashioned way > ps -ef | grep svnserve | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9 Plea

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Wednesday 12 October 2016 08:40:12 Greg Wooledge wrote: > And stop using -9 (SIGKILL). Forever. Pretend it never existed. That's a bit harsh. The tool exists for a good reason :-) "Unix was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:40:57PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > ...Any thoughts on what is preventing the restart of fetchmail from > working? Nothing in particular. I haven't used fetchmail in many years, and never as a "service" at the system level. So, just general thoughts: 1) Use "system

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 08:40:12AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:34:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > # The systemctl stop for svnserve may not work as I haven't got around to > > # making a stop script for it. > > # So kill the process the old fashioned way > > ps -e

Re: Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

2016-10-12 Thread Mario Pereyra
I'm also having the same problem for about the same mentioned time, but I use Debian wheezy & gnome No report of error, no log, ... no information, only the application disappear.

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:56:06AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:40:57PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > ...Any thoughts on what is preventing the restart of fetchmail from > > working? > > Nothing in particular. I haven't used fetchmail in many years, and > never as a

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, Mark Fletcher a écrit : > Fetchmail isn't set up as a service through systemd, although mysql and > svnserve are. fetchmail is just started from this script (or supposed to > be!) and launched by hand from the command line when that fails. > > So at least sys

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 October 2016 09:40:57 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 08:40:12AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:34:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > # The systemctl stop for svnserve may not work as I haven't got > > > around to # making a stop scrip

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

2016-10-12 Thread Tony Baldwin
On 10/12/2016 08:55 AM, Mario Pereyra wrote: I'm also having the same problem for about the same mentioned time, but I use Debian wheezy & gnome No report of error, no log, ... no information, only the application disappear. similar experience. Seems to occur randomly here, like when I dele

Re: New amd64 kernel in Debian x86 testing?

2016-10-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> AFAICT, the latest amd64 kernel in Debian x86 testing is still 3.16 >> (i.e. the one from Debian stable). >> Any idea why there's no newer one? > Since linux 4.0, the -amd64 kernel flavor is no longer built on i386: Hmm... that's what I thought. > To install the -amd64 kernel via multiarch, ru

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 04:29:01PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, Mark Fletcher a écrit : > > Fetchmail isn't set up as a service through systemd, although mysql and > > svnserve are. fetchmail is just started from this script (or supposed to > > be!) and laun

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:09:12AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 04:29:01PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Le primidi 21 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, Mark Fletcher a écrit : > Fetchmail isn't set up as a service through systemd, although mysql and > svnserve are. fetchmail is just

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:36:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 12 October 2016 09:40:57 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 08:40:12AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:34:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > # The systemctl stop for svns

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 22 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, Mark Fletcher a écrit : > You bring up a good point, actually. I'm calling systemctl stop and > systemctl start to stop and start mysql -- and I'm doing that in a > script that is itself being called by a systemd unit (the one triggered > by the timer). I wonde

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Frank
Op 12-10-16 om 17:17 schreef Mark Fletcher: I wonder if passing the --fetchmailrc option will work. The systemd journal snippet I included in my original post shows that fetchmail is getting started successfully -- but by the morning it's not running. Now, clearly nothing gets past me, but that m

Re: New amd64 kernel in Debian x86 testing?

2016-10-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2016-10-12 10:45 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> AFAICT, the latest amd64 kernel in Debian x86 testing is still 3.16 >>> (i.e. the one from Debian stable). >>> Any idea why there's no newer one? >> Since linux 4.0, the -amd64 kernel flavor is no longer built on i386: > > Hmm... that's what I t

Resume From Hibernation Failing With Automatic Reboot - Debian Testing

2016-10-12 Thread Sicelo
Hi I am running Debian Testing, and for the last two weeks or so, it is impossible to successfully resume the system from hibernation. The actual hibernation process goes through fine, as also shown in the systemd journal. When powering the system back on, with the `quiet` kernel cmdline removed,

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Mark Fletcher wrote: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:34:22 From: Mark Fletcher To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Script vs command line behaviour Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:34:43 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Greetings I am observing a stra

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 04:51:40PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > ># and restart the services we stopped > >systemctl start svnserve > >systemctl start mysql > >sudo -u mark fetchmail -d 900 > > > I think the issue revolves around unknown pwd. Perhaps running fetchmail as > the user rather than ro

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-10-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 07 October 2016 15:43:17 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-10-04 22:51:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 October 2016 08:25:46 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > my position remains the same: > > > aptitude is poorly designed. > > > > Fine. So don't use it. But moaning won't help a

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 05:59:10PM +0200, Frank wrote: > Op 12-10-16 om 17:17 schreef Mark Fletcher: > >I wonder if passing the --fetchmailrc option will work. The systemd > >journal snippet I included in my original post shows that fetchmail is > >getting started successfully -- but by the morning

Re: Script vs command line behaviour

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 04:29:01PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, Mark Fletcher a écrit : > > Fetchmail isn't set up as a service through systemd, although mysql and > > svnserve are. fetchmail is just started from this script (or supposed to > > be!) and laun

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-10-12 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 13/10/16 12:09, Lisi Reisz wrote: I don't use Sid, so haven't tested out which package managers are good for it when there are problems, but how about looking at apt or apt-get? Ben says that he has great success with apt-get. Apt-get is much less aggressive than aptitude - but less fully fe

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

2016-10-12 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 13/10/16 03:43, Tony Baldwin wrote: On 10/12/2016 08:55 AM, Mario Pereyra wrote: I'm also having the same problem for about the same mentioned time, but I use Debian wheezy & gnome No report of error, no log, ... no information, only the application disappear. similar experience. Seems to oc