AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Updates to the confic file

2004-04-14 Thread Guhl, Markus (LDS)
Title: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Updates to the confic file






hi,


i just (13:00 CET) get me the global.cfg and found:


MONKEYFORMMAIL ip4r formmail.relays.monkeys.com *  7 0

MONKEYPROXIES ip4r proxies.relays.monkeys.com  *  7 0


in it.

are they back? i thought they went down 8 months ago?


mfg

i.a.

gez. markus guhl


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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Von: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Gesendet am: Dienstag, 13. April 2004 18:40

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Where do I find and updated version of the rbl's used per default ? And 

there settings

Or has they not been changed for the last 6 -8 months ?


We constantly update the config files, as old spam databases are killed off 

and new ones are added. You can find the latest config files at 

http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm .


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Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Updates to the confic file

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

i just (13:00 CET) get me the global.cfg and found:

MONKEYFORMMAIL  ip4rformmail.relays.monkeys.com *   7 
 0
MONKEYPROXIES   ip4rproxies.relays.monkeys.com  *   7 
 0

in it.
are they back? i thought they went down 8 months ago?
They are definitely not back.  This is a glitch with the new web site, that 
should be fixed soon.

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[Declude.JunkMail] icq.com for spamdomains

2004-04-14 Thread Markus Gufler

I've seen some spam with forged Mailfrom addresses NOT comming from icq.com.
So maybe it'S agood idea to add this single domain to the spamdomains file.

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to generate this report

2004-04-14 Thread Dan Horne
DOH! That's what I get for hurrying to get something out before quitting
time.

Dan Horne, CCNA
Web Services Administrator
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 - Original Message -
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  I have attached my Global.cfg.  The logfile that it was parsing was only
 14
  megs.  Any ideas?  Do I need to change something for it to work?  I
 tried
  WAMLOG with the debug option, but it did the same thing.
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-14 Thread Bud Durland




I am testing a small external test program. A message fails the test
if there is an discernable IP address in the HELO entry of the
message. These fail the test:

 Received: from host-68-212-107-146.msy.bellsouth.net
[68.212.107.146] by mrpcap.com
 Received: from ip-62-129-160-91.evhr.net [62.129.160.91]
by mrpcap.com
 Received: from acs-24-154-41-142.zoominternet.net
[24.154.41.142] by mrpcap.com

Only the bolded part of the line (HELO name) is tested. Basically,
dashes become 'dots', and anything other than numbers and dots are
stripped out. If what remains looks like a valid 4-octet IP address,
the test fails.

These entries would NOT fail -- stray number make the location of the
IP ambiguous

 Received: from wbar3.lax1-4-8-227-083.dsl-verizon.net [4.8.227.83]
by mrpcap.com 
 Received: from c-24-125-42-12.va.client2.attbi.com [24.125.42.12]
by mrpcap.com 

For testing, I set it up with 0 weight and a HOLD action. So far, it
has not flagged anything that was not spam.

If anyone is interested in trying it out, let me know. I'll probably
be putting it up for download from my web site later this week.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-14 Thread andyb



interested

thanks, andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bud 
  Durland 
  To: Declude List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:58 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New 
test
  I am testing a small external test program. A message 
  fails the test if there is an discernable IP address in the HELO entry of the 
  message. These fail the test: Received: from 
  host-68-212-107-146.msy.bellsouth.net [68.212.107.146] by 
  mrpcap.com Received: from ip-62-129-160-91.evhr.net 
  [62.129.160.91] by mrpcap.com Received: from 
  acs-24-154-41-142.zoominternet.net [24.154.41.142] by 
  mrpcap.comOnly the bolded part of the line (HELO name) is 
  tested. Basically, dashes become 'dots', and anything other than numbers 
  and dots are stripped out. If what remains looks like a valid 4-octet IP 
  address, the test fails.These entries would NOT fail -- stray number 
  make the location of the IP ambiguous Received: from 
  wbar3.lax1-4-8-227-083.dsl-verizon.net [4.8.227.83] by mrpcap.com  
  Received: from c-24-125-42-12.va.client2.attbi.com [24.125.42.12] by 
  mrpcap.com For testing, I set it up with 0 weight and a HOLD 
  action. So far, it has not flagged anything that was not spam.If 
  anyone is interested in trying it out, let me know. I'll probably be 
  putting it up for download from my web site later this week.-- 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-14 Thread Glenn Brooks


interested
At 09:17 AM 4/14/2004 -0400, you wrote:
interested

thanks, andy


- Original Message - 

From: Bud Durland


To: Declude List 

Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:58 AM

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

I am testing a small external test program. A message fails the test if there is an discernable IP address in the HELO entry of the message. These fail the test:

 Received: from host-68-212-107-146.msy.bellsouth.net [68.212.107.146] by mrpcap.com

 Received: from ip-62-129-160-91.evhr.net [62.129.160.91] by mrpcap.com

 Received: from acs-24-154-41-142.zoominternet.net [24.154.41.142] by mrpcap.com

Only the bolded part of the line (HELO name) is tested. Basically, dashes become 'dots', and anything other than numbers and dots are stripped out. If what remains looks like a valid 4-octet IP address, the test fails.

These entries would NOT fail -- stray number make the location of the IP ambiguous

 Received: from wbar3.lax1-4-8-227-083.dsl-verizon.net [4.8.227.83] by mrpcap.com 

 Received: from c-24-125-42-12.va.client2.attbi.com [24.125.42.12] by mrpcap.com 

For testing, I set it up with 0 weight and a HOLD action. So far, it has not flagged anything that was not spam.

If anyone is interested in trying it out, let me know. I'll probably be putting it up for download from my web site later this week.


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[Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread TC Online Support
I have been using the SPAM filters from MailPure and I have notices that
the Anti-Gibberish Test has been triggered a lot more than the Gibberish
test (5:1 ratio)  The Anti-Gibberish Test has been causing a lot of SPAM
to go through by applying negative weight to the message.  I was
wondering if there was a way to skip the Anti-Gibberish Test if the
Gibberish is not triggered.  (This goes to all the test that contain an
Anti- test)

Isaias Hernandez
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[Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?

2004-04-14 Thread Dan Geiser



Hello, All,
The Declude JunkMail Manual, http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116, 
appears to be ponting to an old version of GLOBAL.CFG, http://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFG. 
I haven't looked very deep but the thing that immediately jumped out was that 
the MONKEYS.COM and EASYNET.NL IP4R entries are enabled. 

Am I correct that this GLOBAL.CFG is way out of 
date and is unreliable? If so, does anyone know where I can get the latest 
and great version of GLOBAL.CFG?

On a related note, have you ever considered 
entering a comment line in GLOBAL.CFG which has the date that the GLOBAL.CFG 
file was last updated?

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

The Declude JunkMail Manual, 
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116, 
appears to be ponting to an old version of GLOBAL.CFG, 
http://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFGhttp://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFG. 
I haven't looked very deep but the thing that immediately jumped out was 
that the MONKEYS.COM and EASYNET.NL IP4R entries are enabled.

Am I correct that this GLOBAL.CFG is way out of date and is 
unreliable?  If so, does anyone know where I can get the latest and great 
version of GLOBAL.CFG?
The person who maintains the web site should have this fixed shortly.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] EU in Country Chain

2004-04-14 Thread Dan Geiser



Hello, All,
Occasionally I'll see a line like this in the 
headers of some e-mail...

X-Country-Chain: 'EU' [corrupt RIPE 
data]-UNITED STATES-destination

I realize that EU is not a valid country code 
according to this page, http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm, 
but if I add a line to my COUNTRY filter like

COUNTRIES2CONTAINSeu

will it add 2 points to the total weight for 
finding "eu"?

My guess is "No" but I just though I would 
ask.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread System Administrator
on 4/14/04 10:57 AM, TC Online Support wrote:

 I was
 wondering if there was a way to skip the Anti-Gibberish Test if the
 Gibberish is not triggered.  (This goes to all the test that contain an
 Anti- test)

If/when we get a NOTCONTAINS filter command a lot of things like this could
be done very easily.

IE, at the top of the Anti-Gibberish filter you could have some code like -

SKIPIFWEIGHT  100
TESTSFAILED   END   NOTCONTAINSGIBBERISH
rest of the anti-gibberish code


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] X-RBL-Warning:

2004-04-14 Thread David Lewis-Waller

I just received this this from a mail admin of another ISP, Anyone care to
comment...

Your outgoing mail server adds the header:
  X-RBL-Warning: SPAM-NONE: Total weight between 0 and 4.

 Our filter software scans incomming mesages for a line that starts
 X-RBL-Warning:
 This is used as an indicator of spam. In your case it is saying that 
 this message is not spam, but our software only picks up the first 
 half of the tag.

 RBL stands for Real Time Blacklist. Normally that tag is used to 
 indicate that the sender of the mail has an IP address that is listed 
 at a RBL. It should not be used to tag mail as non spam, because 
 people block on the X-RBL-Warning part. As you've found out.

 Contact your mail admin and ask him to either change the tag or even 
 remove it all together. In theory it is a good idea to have a tag 
 along the lines of :
 X-spam-scanned: ok
 But dont use the RBL tag unless your IP is on a RBL, or else you will 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EU in Country Chain

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

Occasionally I'll see a line like this in the headers of some e-mail...

X-Country-Chain: 'EU' [corrupt RIPE data]-UNITED STATES-destination

I realize that EU is not a valid country code according to this page, 
http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htmhttp://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm, 
but if I add a line to my COUNTRY filter like

COUNTRIES 2 CONTAINS eu

will it add 2 points to the total weight for finding eu?

My guess is No but I just though I would ask.
Actually, that will work.  :)

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] X-RBL-Warning:

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

I just received this this from a mail admin of another ISP, Anyone care to
comment...
 Our filter software scans incomming mesages for a line that starts
 X-RBL-Warning:
 This is used as an indicator of spam. In your case it is saying that
 this message is not spam, but our software only picks up the first
 half of the tag.
You're both right.

While a mail client/server really shouldn't block on the X-RBL-Warning: 
header alone, it's probably best not to use it for tests that don't somehow 
indicate that the E-mail is likely to be spam.  Instead of SPAM-NONE 
WARN, I would use SPAM-NONE WARN X-Note: This E-mail fell into the 
SPAM-NONE range (Total weight between 0 and 4).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EU in Country Chain

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
Yes, it will add 2 points.
But:
I've received 188 e-mails with the country of EU (I use country not countries) since I 
added my country test.
Approximately 1/3 were not spam.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14/04 10:34AM 
Hello, All,
Occasionally I'll see a line like this in the headers of some e-mail...

X-Country-Chain: 'EU' [corrupt RIPE data]-UNITED STATES-destination

I realize that EU is not a valid country code according to this page, 
http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm, but if I add a line to my COUNTRY filter 
like

COUNTRIES 2 CONTAINS eu

will it add 2 points to the total weight for finding eu?

My guess is No but I just though I would ask.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
I know [EMAIL PROTECTED] has new filters out in his Beta area that don't utilize the 
anti-gibberish test. 
There is just a gibberish and a gibberish-sub tests.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14/04 09:57AM 
I have been using the SPAM filters from MailPure and I have notices that
the Anti-Gibberish Test has been triggered a lot more than the Gibberish
test (5:1 ratio)  The Anti-Gibberish Test has been causing a lot of SPAM
to go through by applying negative weight to the message.  I was
wondering if there was a way to skip the Anti-Gibberish Test if the
Gibberish is not triggered.  (This goes to all the test that contain an
Anti- test)

Isaias Hernandez
Internet Tech Support
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EU in Country Chain

2004-04-14 Thread Markus Gufler

 X-Country-Chain: 'EU' [corrupt RIPE data]-UNITED STATES-destination

 COUNTRIES 2 CONTAINS eu
 will it add 2 points to the total weight for finding eu?
 My guess is No but I just though I would ask.

 Actually, that will work.  :)


So this will add 2 points for every message containing 'EU' [corrupt RIPE
data] in the country chain and not for every message comming from any
european country?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EU in Country Chain

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

 COUNTRIES 2 CONTAINS eu
 will it add 2 points to the total weight for finding eu?
 My guess is No but I just though I would ask.
 Actually, that will work.  :)

So this will add 2 points for every message containing 'EU' [corrupt RIPE
data] in the country chain and not for every message comming from any
european country?
Correct.  EU will only appear when RIPE has EU in their records as the 
country (which should normally not happen).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

The Declude JunkMail Manual, 
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116, 
appears to be ponting to an old version of GLOBAL.CFG, 
http://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFGhttp://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFG. 
I haven't looked very deep but the thing that immediately jumped out was 
that the MONKEYS.COM and EASYNET.NL IP4R entries are enabled.

Am I correct that this GLOBAL.CFG is way out of date and is 
unreliable?  If so, does anyone know where I can get the latest and great 
version of GLOBAL.CFG?
The correct one is now online.  :)

If anyone else notices any other issues with the website, please be sure to 
let me know, and I'll make sure that they get taken care of.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of change of ownership

2004-04-14 Thread Richard Edge
Scott,

First, congratulations on the changes.

I would certainly be interested in a gateway product from your company
as a few changes are occurring here as well. We are likely going to be
moving from Imail for our student email server to an Exchange 2003
server (as a mate to the staff faculty server). I have become somewhat
disappointed with Imail and Ipswitch as we have had a couple of serious
bugs with attachments of late that I feel have not been dealt with
seriously enough by Ipswitch. This is what is prompting the change. Both
bugs were problems dealing with Imail's handling of attachments. This
was pretty critical for an academic institution that relies on email
attachments for students to send in assignments and faculty that needs
to send course materials to students. The first bug you are aware of and
actually let me know that it was a known bug in Sept.. 2003 and wasn't
fixed until December 2003 affecting the whole first semester. The second
is a bug with multipart/mixed attachments that I reported as critical in
January and now it is the end of the school year and still no news of a
fix.

I have only praise for your product and support and if I had to leave
Imail, my regret would be losing Declude and therefore I was quite
excited to see your message about a potential gateway product.

Sorry for the rant, but after repeated inquires to Ipswitch with no
response and now seeing an upgrade release (8.1) but still no fix for
8.05, I am just a little frustrated and *very pleased* that you weren't
purchased by Ipswitch.

Anyway congrats and I will continue to monitor for news of a gateway
product so that I can continue to offer top quality anti-spam and virus
protection for my users by a company that provides what I consider to be
the best product and support in the entire industry.

Richard Edge 
Senior Systems Administrator 
Technology Services Department 
TRINITY WESTERN UNIVERSITY 
Voice: 604-513-2089 
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
WWW: http://www.ucs.twu.ca 
FAQ: http://www.ucs.twu.ca/resources/faq.htm
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of change of
ownership


Have you already started considering which other MTA's you will try to 
integrate with?

No decisions have been made yet, but it looks like a gateway product
(which would be compatible with all SMTP servers) may be the way that we
go.

I want to suggest Xmail Server (http://www.xmailserver.org).  I have 
looked at making Declude work with it before, but never found the time 
to write the middleware needed.  I like Xmail for it's speed and 
configurability, and the next release will add integrated IMAP finally.

I also like the suggestion of MS SMTP service, but either dealing with 
sinks used in MS SMTP is very difficult or developers think admins are 
suckers, I have never seen a cheap addin for MS SMTP, even simple ones.

Of course, feel free to correct me if they do exist.

Thanks for the suggestions -- we will take a note of this.

Another question, will there be any consideration in making Declude 
multi-platform?

It is something that we are giving serious thought to.  At this point,
it isn't a high priority -- but something that is being considered as we
do development work.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to generate this report

2004-04-14 Thread Mike Hyslip
That is because end users apply programs how they WANT, now how the writer
intended hehe...

Nice program, thank you for your time investing to help us as well.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:43 PM
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I have been using this program for months with no problem but you guys
managed to break it in a matter of hours. :)

I guess that I should have called it a BETA release!  Anyway, that's
what I call it now (v1.4B).  I have fixed the problems that you have
pointed out to me and have added the following:

1) The output file (wamlog.txt) goes in the same folder as the log file.
2) There is a progress counter so you know it is working.

If you find any more problems PLEASE let me know.

Thanks,
Bill

The new version is as of 11:40 am CDT 4/14/04.

www.wamusa.com/wamtools

 
 Hi,
 
 I have a utility to do a quick analysis of my decMMDD.log 
 file to discover test effectiveness.  If anyone would like to 
 use it, I have it
 available for free from my website:  http://www.wamusa.com/wamtools   
 
 The program is designed for LOGLEVEL MID but it may work for 
 other levels.  My system analyzed this 120Mb decMMDD.log in 
 less than one minute.  This is a sample output:
 
 
 Message Recipient
 Test Name Fail Count %Fail Count %
 
  WEIGHT10  116362   96 169684   96
  SNIFFER2  114790   94 167322   95
  WEIGHT15  112700   93 165299   94
  WEIGHT20  108443   89 159758   91
 WEIGHTDEL  108443   89 159758   91
   SPAMCOP   84740   70 129602   73
   SBL   52552   43  53879   30
  AHBL   48506   40  57094   32
   CBL   46445   38  89827   51
  DSBL   39527   32  77743   44
SORBS-DUHL   29673   24  58427   33
REVDNS   28996   23  41544   23
BADHEADERS   27493   22  34922   19
SORBS-SPAM   25119   20  27995   15
  NOPOSTMASTER   22488   18  46530   26
   NOABUSE   21746   17  42732   24
   SPAMHEADERS   19613   16  20587   11
  SPAM-DOMAINS   15263   12  33776   19
   ROUTING   120419  25060   14
   FOREIGN   100988  163309
 GIBBERISH90727   99325
   DSN84847  137557
SORBS-HTTP65845  124597
   SORBS-SOCKS65085  126977
   SPFFAIL49544   65273
BLITZEDALL33502   59913
BASE6422521   29561
  MAILFROM16841   28411
  COMMENTS13281   20561
  MYFILTERFAIL11590   17230
  WAMO 58506090
  MYFILTERPASS 5120   12390
SORBS-MISC 50409230
SORBS-SMTP 4450   11320
   OBFUSCATION 36004570
  ORDB 31606540
 SORBS-WEB 31605140
  SORBS-ZOMBIE 28002800
   SPFPASS 20802340
  BONDEDSENDER  620 620
   @LINKED  100 140
HABEAS   40  40
  WAMCHECK   10  20
 
 Message Count  120934  175163

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread Sheldon Koehler
 I know [EMAIL PROTECTED] has new filters out in his Beta area that
 don't utilize the anti-gibberish test. There is just a gibberish and
 a gibberish-sub tests.

I was beginning to wonder as nothing new has been posted at
http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/ since last year.

Sheldon


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
They are posted in the beta section. See this link for the link:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17542.html

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14/04 12:02PM 
 I know [EMAIL PROTECTED] has new filters out in his Beta area that
 don't utilize the anti-gibberish test. There is just a gibberish and
 a gibberish-sub tests.

I was beginning to wonder as nothing new has been posted at
http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/ since last year.

Sheldon


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to generate this report

2004-04-14 Thread Darin Cox
Hi Bill,

Haven't tried this new version, but recently tried the old one and it is
very useful. Thanks.

Question for you:  It looks like it counts whitelisted email in the total
percentages.  Is this so?  Might be useful to add a line showing what
percentage is whitelisted, or just exclude whitelisted email, to more
accurately portray usefulness of various tests.

Darin.


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From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to
generate this report



I have been using this program for months with no problem but you guys
managed to break it in a matter of hours. :)

I guess that I should have called it a BETA release!  Anyway, that's
what I call it now (v1.4B).  I have fixed the problems that you have
pointed out to me and have added the following:

1) The output file (wamlog.txt) goes in the same folder as the log file.
2) There is a progress counter so you know it is working.

If you find any more problems PLEASE let me know.

Thanks,
Bill

The new version is as of 11:40 am CDT 4/14/04.

www.wamusa.com/wamtools


 Hi,

 I have a utility to do a quick analysis of my decMMDD.log
 file to discover test effectiveness.  If anyone would like to
 use it, I have it
 available for free from my website:  http://www.wamusa.com/wamtools

 The program is designed for LOGLEVEL MID but it may work for
 other levels.  My system analyzed this 120Mb decMMDD.log in
 less than one minute.  This is a sample output:


Message   Recipient
 Test Name Fail Count % Fail Count %

  WEIGHT10 116362   96 169684   96
  SNIFFER2 114790   94 167322   95
  WEIGHT15 112700   93 165299   94
  WEIGHT20 108443   89 159758   91
 WEIGHTDEL 108443   89 159758   91
   SPAMCOP   84740   70 129602   73
   SBL   52552   43   53879   30
  AHBL   48506   40   57094   32
   CBL   46445   38   89827   51
  DSBL   39527   32   77743   44
SORBS-DUHL   29673   24   58427   33
REVDNS   28996   23   41544   23
BADHEADERS   27493   22   34922   19
SORBS-SPAM   25119   20   27995   15
  NOPOSTMASTER   22488   18   46530   26
   NOABUSE   21746   17   42732   24
   SPAMHEADERS   19613   16   20587   11
  SPAM-DOMAINS   15263   12   33776   19
   ROUTING   120419   25060   14
   FOREIGN   100988   163309
 GIBBERISH9072799325
   DSN84847   137557
SORBS-HTTP65845   124597
   SORBS-SOCKS65085   126977
   SPFFAIL4954465273
BLITZEDALL3350259913
BASE642252129561
  MAILFROM1684128411
  COMMENTS1328120561
  MYFILTERFAIL1159017230
  WAMO 5850 6090
  MYFILTERPASS 512012390
SORBS-MISC 5040 9230
SORBS-SMTP 445011320
   OBFUSCATION 3600 4570
  ORDB 3160 6540
 SORBS-WEB 3160 5140
  SORBS-ZOMBIE 2800 2800
   SPFPASS 2080 2340
  BONDEDSENDER  620  620
   @LINKED  100  140
HABEAS   40   40
  WAMCHECK   10   20

 Message Count 120934 175163

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of change of ownership

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

First, congratulations on the changes.
Thank you.  :)

I would certainly be interested in a gateway product from your company
as a few changes are occurring here as well. We are likely going to be
moving from Imail for our student email server to an Exchange 2003
server (as a mate to the staff faculty server).
Thank you for your input about a gateway version, and explaining your 
situation with IMail, and:

I have only praise for your product and support and if I had to leave
Imail, my regret would be losing Declude and therefore I was quite
excited to see your message about a potential gateway product.
Thanks for the kind words.  :)

Sorry for the rant, but after repeated inquires to Ipswitch with no
response and now seeing an upgrade release (8.1) but still no fix for
8.05, I am just a little frustrated and *very pleased* that you weren't
purchased by Ipswitch.
I can certainly understand that.

Non-disclosures can be a nuisance, but what I can say is that one of my top 
priorities was finding a new owner that would be able to meet the needs of 
my customers.  There were potential new owners that I did not feel would be 
able to do that.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: SmarterMail any good?

2004-04-14 Thread Jose Gosende
Do any of you run SmarterMail? What are your opinions?
As part of a hosting package SmarterMail is being given to us
for free and I'd like to know what other people's experiences
have been with it before we use it in a production environment.

Thanks,

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to generate this report

2004-04-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Smokin' Bill!

That's very fast.  I certainly found a few surprises at 0 hits for a normal
day.

Some low priority suggestions:

- Change fail wording in the header to trigger or hit or something.
- Ignore Declude directives, e.g. LOOSENSPAMHEADERS, HOPHIGH, CONSOLE,
PREWHITELIST ...

Thanks for the new tool.

Andrew 8)

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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to
generate this report



I have been using this program for months with no problem but you guys
managed to break it in a matter of hours. :)

I guess that I should have called it a BETA release!  Anyway, that's
what I call it now (v1.4B).  I have fixed the problems that you have
pointed out to me and have added the following:

1) The output file (wamlog.txt) goes in the same folder as the log file.
2) There is a progress counter so you know it is working.

If you find any more problems PLEASE let me know.

Thanks,
Bill

The new version is as of 11:40 am CDT 4/14/04.

www.wamusa.com/wamtools

 
 Hi,
 
 I have a utility to do a quick analysis of my decMMDD.log 
 file to discover test effectiveness.  If anyone would like to 
 use it, I have it
 available for free from my website:  http://www.wamusa.com/wamtools   
 
 The program is designed for LOGLEVEL MID but it may work for 
 other levels.  My system analyzed this 120Mb decMMDD.log in 
 less than one minute.  This is a sample output:
 
 
 Message Recipient
 Test Name Fail Count %Fail Count %
 
  WEIGHT10  116362   96 169684   96
  SNIFFER2  114790   94 167322   95
  WEIGHT15  112700   93 165299   94
  WEIGHT20  108443   89 159758   91
 WEIGHTDEL  108443   89 159758   91
   SPAMCOP   84740   70 129602   73
   SBL   52552   43  53879   30
  AHBL   48506   40  57094   32
   CBL   46445   38  89827   51
  DSBL   39527   32  77743   44
SORBS-DUHL   29673   24  58427   33
REVDNS   28996   23  41544   23
BADHEADERS   27493   22  34922   19
SORBS-SPAM   25119   20  27995   15
  NOPOSTMASTER   22488   18  46530   26
   NOABUSE   21746   17  42732   24
   SPAMHEADERS   19613   16  20587   11
  SPAM-DOMAINS   15263   12  33776   19
   ROUTING   120419  25060   14
   FOREIGN   100988  163309
 GIBBERISH90727   99325
   DSN84847  137557
SORBS-HTTP65845  124597
   SORBS-SOCKS65085  126977
   SPFFAIL49544   65273
BLITZEDALL33502   59913
BASE6422521   29561
  MAILFROM16841   28411
  COMMENTS13281   20561
  MYFILTERFAIL11590   17230
  WAMO 58506090
  MYFILTERPASS 5120   12390
SORBS-MISC 50409230
SORBS-SMTP 4450   11320
   OBFUSCATION 36004570
  ORDB 31606540
 SORBS-WEB 31605140
  SORBS-ZOMBIE 28002800
   SPFPASS 20802340
  BONDEDSENDER  620 620
   @LINKED  100 140
HABEAS   40  40
  WAMCHECK   10  20
 
 Message Count  120934  175163

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[Declude.JunkMail] SURBL filter script

2004-04-14 Thread Roger Eriksson
Hi,

The command script that downloads the SURBL rbldns zone file, 
converts it to a body filter, and updates the existing filter file is 
available for download at 
http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/SURBL_filter.zip. I 
have included a short readme file and added comments to the script.

It will take a day or two before the log analysis and test check 
scripts are available, since I must adjust them to handle all log 
levels.

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[Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure on OE auto-responder

2004-04-14 Thread Glenn \\\\ WCNet
I'm curious what caused this message to fail CMDSPACE?


Received: from PARTSMANAGER [64.72.97.82] by wcnet.net with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.15) id AF16D700130; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:04:22 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: First Last [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spam (12) - Re: Undeliverable Mail
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:04:06 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html;
 charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [64.72.97.82]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D6f160d7001302fd4.SMD
X-Note-In: This E-mail was scanned on MAIL1 by Declude JunkMail for evidence
of spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: CMDSPACE, REVDNS, WEIGHT10
X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is 12.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([64.72.97.82])
X-Note: SMTP Real From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 323735851

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure on OE auto-responder

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm curious what caused this message to fail CMDSPACE?
It failed because the mailserver sending the E-mail doesn't follow the RFCs 
exactly (specifically, it had a space in one of the SMTP commands where it 
should not have).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure on OE auto-responder

2004-04-14 Thread Glenn \\\\ WCNet
So the problem is with the sending mail server at 64.72.97.82, not the
sending client (OE 6)?  Just trying to understand.

Glenn Z.


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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure on OE auto-responder



 I'm curious what caused this message to fail CMDSPACE?

 It failed because the mailserver sending the E-mail doesn't follow the
RFCs
 exactly (specifically, it had a space in one of the SMTP commands where it
 should not have).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE failure on OE auto-responder

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

So the problem is with the sending mail server at 64.72.97.82, not the
sending client (OE 6)?  Just trying to understand.
The E-mail came from 64.72.97.82, so the SMTP software running on there is 
at fault (it could be a mail client or a mail server -- SMTP does not 
distinguish between the two).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

Is there a working interim link yet?
Yes, the new link to interim releases is 
http://www.declude.com/version/interim/ .

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?

2004-04-14 Thread nrmathew
Scott,Is there a working interim link yet?Neal M.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 04/14/2004 12:46PMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?The Declude JunkMail Manual, http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116, appears to be ponting to an old version of GLOBAL.CFG, http://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFGhttp://www.declude.com/version/release/GLOBAL.CFG. I haven't looked very deep but the thing that immediately jumped outwas that the MONKEYS.COM and EASYNET.NL IP4R entries are enabled.Am I correct that this GLOBAL.CFG is way out of date and is unreliable?  If so, does anyone know where I can get the latest andgreat version of GLOBAL.CFG?The correct one is now online.  :)If anyone else notices any other issues with the website, please besure to let me know, and I'll make sure that they get taken care of.   -Scott---Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMailmailservers since 2000.Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader inmailserver vulnerability detection.Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus(http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: SmarterMail any good?

2004-04-14 Thread Keith Purtell
My experience with SmarterMail is as an end user. The hosting company for my
hobby site made it available as a way to handle email via Web pages. It's
pretty good. What else do you want to know? On or off list?

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: SmarterMail any good?


Do any of you run SmarterMail? What are your opinions?
As part of a hosting package SmarterMail is being given to us
for free and I'd like to know what other people's experiences
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: SmarterMail any good?

2004-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 My experience with SmarterMail is as an end user. The hosting company for
my
 hobby site made it available as a way to handle email via Web pages. It's
 pretty good. What else do you want to know? On or off list?

What, an IT person with time for a hobby? How dare you. ;-)

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?

2004-04-14 Thread nrmathew
Much obliged! :)Neal M.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 04/14/2004 02:26PMSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Default GLOBAL.CFG Out of Date?Is there a working interim link yet?Yes, the new link to interim releases is http://www.declude.com/version/interim/.   -Scott---Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMailmailservers since 2000.Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader inmailserver vulnerability detection.Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus(http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.  Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail".  The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---
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[Declude.JunkMail] Paypal phish not detected by spamdomains

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
This paypal phish got through without being detected by the spamdomains. Can anyone 
explain it?

Spamdomains line:
@paypal.com .paypal.


Headers:
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by farmprogress.com; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:45:39 -0500
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:00:37 -0400
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JSpamFilter-25]Notification of PayPal Limited Account Access
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: MSOUTLOOK / 4.3.2
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X-Note: Total spam weight of this e-mail is 27.
X-Note: Reverse DNS sls-cb9p8.dca2.superb.net .

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Paypal phish not detected by spamdomains

2004-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Because the sender was not listed as @paypal.com. Look at this line:
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.36.241.111]

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Paypal phish not detected by spamdomains
 
 This paypal phish got through without being detected by the spamdomains.
Can
 anyone explain it?
 
 Spamdomains line:
 @paypal.com .paypal.
 
 
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 X-Note: Reverse DNS sls-cb9p8.dca2.superb.net .
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL filter script

2004-04-14 Thread Roger Eriksson
Hi again,

This version of the SURBL filter script only works under Windows 2000 
and later. I will try to adjust the script so that it also can be 
used on Windows NT 4.

/Roger


Hi,

The command script that downloads the SURBL rbldns zone file, 
converts it to a body filter, and updates the existing filter file 
is available for download at 
http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/SURBL_filter.zip. I 
have included a short readme file and added comments to the script.

It will take a day or two before the log analysis and test check 
scripts are available, since I must adjust them to handle all log 
levels.

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[Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?

2004-04-14 Thread Royce Burnett
Using Imail 6.05, and Declude 1.79 beta on NT4.0 


I've had a spate of crud flowing in the last week or so from
@variousaddresses addressed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], which of course get turned
away as the addressee is unknown to my mail server. Unfortunately there
seems to be such a flood of the damned things that it ends up stalling the
iwebmsg service and consuming 100% cpu so a number of times a day I have to
shut the iwebmsg service down, which can take up to 20 minutes to accomplish.

I've had to turn off accepting null senders just to grab my breath. Whats
the quick and dirty solution, some sort of hold action? is there a way to
configure a  declude test to action these messages?

please forgive if this seems a stupid question, i'm pretty foggy after a 4
AM hard drive replacement on a different machine

Thanks for any answers

Royce Burnett
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Paypal phish not detected by spamdomains

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
I see, I missed that.
I just like to lay down extra points on the phish schemes.
Thanks


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14/04 02:33PM 
Because the sender was not listed as @paypal.com. Look at this line:
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.36.241.111]

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Paypal phish not detected by spamdomains
 
 This paypal phish got through without being detected by the spamdomains.
Can
 anyone explain it?
 
 Spamdomains line:
 @paypal.com .paypal.
 
 
 Headers:
 Received: from imail.Farmprogress.com
   by farmprogress.com; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:45:39 -0500
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   (SMTPD32-8.05) id AB986EFB0044; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:45:28 -0500
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 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: [JSpamFilter-25]Notification of PayPal Limited Account Access
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 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 X-Mailer: MSOUTLOOK / 4.3.2
 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL filter script

2004-04-14 Thread Markus Gufler

 The command script that downloads the SURBL rbldns zone file, 
 converts it to a body filter, and updates the existing filter 
 file is available for download at 
 http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/SURBL_filter.zi
 p. I have included a short readme file and added comments to 
 the script.

Wow! Great script.
Downloaded, unpacked, set the script location, works fine!

Any suggestions on how often we should update the file? Hourly, daily, ...

Thank you
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread Matt




Scott is of course correct. If you are using Declude 1.78+ (beta and
interim releases), there are single file versions of these filters that
will only show a hit when they actually score, and they are also a lot
more efficient. They can be found in the following location:

 http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/beta/

Matt



Scott Fisher wrote:

  I know [EMAIL PROTECTED] has new filters out in his Beta area that don't utilize the anti-gibberish test. 
There is just a gibberish and a gibberish-sub tests.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

  
  

  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14/04 09:57AM 

  

  
  I have been using the SPAM filters from MailPure and I have notices that
the Anti-Gibberish Test has been triggered a lot more than the Gibberish
test (5:1 ratio)  The Anti-Gibberish Test has been causing a lot of SPAM
to go through by applying negative weight to the message.  I was
wondering if there was a way to skip the Anti-Gibberish Test if the
Gibberish is not triggered.  (This goes to all the test that contain an
"Anti-" test)

Isaias Hernandez
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gibberish and Anti-Gibberish Testing

2004-04-14 Thread Matt




Sheldon,

I did decide last year not to try to keep two different sets of files
updated at the same time. Those using 1.78+ should definitely be using
the versions in the beta directory because they have additional
counterbalances and other improvements.

Matt



Sheldon Koehler wrote:

  
I know [EMAIL PROTECTED] has new filters out in his Beta area that
don't utilize the anti-gibberish test. There is just a gibberish and
a gibberish-sub tests.

  
  
I was beginning to wonder as nothing new has been posted at
http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/ since last year.

Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SURBL filter script

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
I agree. It took 10 minutes to get this test working.
And many of the domains listed were in my e-mails that are (hopefully were) falling 
into that gray area.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14/04 04:48PM 

 The command script that downloads the SURBL rbldns zone file, 
 converts it to a body filter, and updates the existing filter 
 file is available for download at 
 http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/SURBL_filter.zi 
 p. I have included a short readme file and added comments to 
 the script.

Wow! Great script.
Downloaded, unpacked, set the script location, works fine!

Any suggestions on how often we should update the file? Hourly, daily, ...

Thank you
Markus




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[Declude.JunkMail] 1.79 release notes

2004-04-14 Thread Scott Fisher
Will the release notes be updated now that 1.79 is a beta?

Scott Fisher
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 1.79 release notes

2004-04-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

Will the release notes be updated now that 1.79 is a beta?
They were, but the new web site needs the new information.  We're in the 
process of going through the changes to the old web site that haven't made 
it to the new web site, but somehow tech support seems to be taking 
priority.  :)

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[Declude.JunkMail] ARGOLINKs SPAM Graph

2004-04-14 Thread Terry Parks








OT, A little, any body got it going? I got it to display just the page
with the word GRAPH on it. Using Windows 2003.










Re: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?

2004-04-14 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi Royce-

How are you rejecting the messages? Do you use a nobody alias with an
autoresponse, or do you just let Imail return the standard error message?
Any idea how many you're getting?

It seems odd that this would effect iwebmsg.  Look for another problem
somewhere. How many files do you have in your spool directory?

-Dave



- Original Message - 
From: Royce Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?


 Using Imail 6.05, and Declude 1.79 beta on NT4.0


 I've had a spate of crud flowing in the last week or so from
 @variousaddresses addressed to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], which of course get
turned
 away as the addressee is unknown to my mail server. Unfortunately there
 seems to be such a flood of the damned things that it ends up stalling the
 iwebmsg service and consuming 100% cpu so a number of times a day I have
to
 shut the iwebmsg service down, which can take up to 20 minutes to
accomplish.

 I've had to turn off accepting null senders just to grab my breath. Whats
 the quick and dirty solution, some sort of hold action? is there a way to
 configure a  declude test to action these messages?

 please forgive if this seems a stupid question, i'm pretty foggy after a 4
 AM hard drive replacement on a different machine

 Thanks for any answers

 Royce Burnett
 CICI

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-14 Thread Dave Doherty



I'd like to test it also.

-Dave

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bud 
  Durland 
  To: Declude List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:58 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New 
test
  I am testing a small external test program. A message 
  fails the test if there is an discernable IP address in the HELO entry of the 
  message. These fail the test: Received: from 
  host-68-212-107-146.msy.bellsouth.net [68.212.107.146] by 
  mrpcap.com Received: from ip-62-129-160-91.evhr.net 
  [62.129.160.91] by mrpcap.com Received: from 
  acs-24-154-41-142.zoominternet.net [24.154.41.142] by 
  mrpcap.comOnly the bolded part of the line (HELO name) is 
  tested. Basically, dashes become 'dots', and anything other than numbers 
  and dots are stripped out. If what remains looks like a valid 4-octet IP 
  address, the test fails.These entries would NOT fail -- stray number 
  make the location of the IP ambiguous Received: from 
  wbar3.lax1-4-8-227-083.dsl-verizon.net [4.8.227.83] by mrpcap.com  
  Received: from c-24-125-42-12.va.client2.attbi.com [24.125.42.12] by 
  mrpcap.com For testing, I set it up with 0 weight and a HOLD 
  action. So far, it has not flagged anything that was not spam.If 
  anyone is interested in trying it out, let me know. I'll probably be 
  putting it up for download from my web site later this week.-- 
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illigitimi non carborundum
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Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ARGOLINKs SPAM Graph

2004-04-14 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Terry, 

I orginally looked at the argolink spam graph, but as the doc's mentioned it 
goes through the full log file from beginning to end.  Our log files are 
big, but it would tie up the cpu for a bit ~10-15 minutes. 

We just finished a seperate program that can be used with MRTG to graph 
junkmail stats.  The program is done and I am using it.  I just have to 
package it up and write some small doc's on it.  I am in the process of 
finishing up the program that can be used to link Imail to MRTG as well.  
Both will be made available for free shortly. 

I will send a note out when everything is posted on our site.. 

Darrell 

Terry Parks writes: 

OT, A little, any body got it going? I got it to display just the page with
the word GRAPH on it. Using Windows 2003. 




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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of change of ownership

2004-04-14 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 We  are  likely  going to be moving from Imail for our student email
 server  to  an  Exchange 2003 server (as a mate to the staff faculty
 server).

You  might then be interested in MilterSink (announced earlier), which
will  incorporate  limited support for Declude (all tests, but not all
actions, are expected to be available).

--Sandy



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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of change of ownership

2004-04-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
I subscribed to that other list - but have yet to see any emails?  Is that
to be expected?  (I'm in Digest mode).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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ownership


 We  are  likely  going to be moving from Imail for our student email 
 server  to  an  Exchange 2003 server (as a mate to the staff faculty 
 server).

You  might then be interested in MilterSink (announced earlier), which will
incorporate  limited support for Declude (all tests, but not all actions,
are expected to be available).

--Sandy



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Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of change of ownership

2004-04-14 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 I subscribed to that other list - but have yet to see any emails? Is
 that to be expected? (I'm in Digest mode).

That  list's  Digest  mode  is both size-based and time-based, but you
wouldn't have received messages yet in either case, as I just sent the
first official message to the list about an hour ago.

--Sandy



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to generate this report

2004-04-14 Thread Bill

I have been using this program for months with no problem but you guys
managed to break it in a matter of hours. :)

I guess that I should have called it a BETA release!  Anyway, that's
what I call it now (v1.4B).  I have fixed the problems that you have
pointed out to me and have added the following:

1) The output file (wamlog.txt) goes in the same folder as the log file.
2) There is a progress counter so you know it is working.

If you find any more problems PLEASE let me know.

Thanks,
Bill

The new version is as of 11:40 am CDT 4/14/04.

www.wamusa.com/wamtools

 
 Hi,
 
 I have a utility to do a quick analysis of my decMMDD.log 
 file to discover test effectiveness.  If anyone would like to 
 use it, I have it
 available for free from my website:  http://www.wamusa.com/wamtools   
 
 The program is designed for LOGLEVEL MID but it may work for 
 other levels.  My system analyzed this 120Mb decMMDD.log in 
 less than one minute.  This is a sample output:
 
 
 Message Recipient
 Test Name Fail Count %Fail Count %
 
  WEIGHT10  116362   96 169684   96
  SNIFFER2  114790   94 167322   95
  WEIGHT15  112700   93 165299   94
  WEIGHT20  108443   89 159758   91
 WEIGHTDEL  108443   89 159758   91
   SPAMCOP   84740   70 129602   73
   SBL   52552   43  53879   30
  AHBL   48506   40  57094   32
   CBL   46445   38  89827   51
  DSBL   39527   32  77743   44
SORBS-DUHL   29673   24  58427   33
REVDNS   28996   23  41544   23
BADHEADERS   27493   22  34922   19
SORBS-SPAM   25119   20  27995   15
  NOPOSTMASTER   22488   18  46530   26
   NOABUSE   21746   17  42732   24
   SPAMHEADERS   19613   16  20587   11
  SPAM-DOMAINS   15263   12  33776   19
   ROUTING   120419  25060   14
   FOREIGN   100988  163309
 GIBBERISH90727   99325
   DSN84847  137557
SORBS-HTTP65845  124597
   SORBS-SOCKS65085  126977
   SPFFAIL49544   65273
BLITZEDALL33502   59913
BASE6422521   29561
  MAILFROM16841   28411
  COMMENTS13281   20561
  MYFILTERFAIL11590   17230
  WAMO 58506090
  MYFILTERPASS 5120   12390
SORBS-MISC 50409230
SORBS-SMTP 4450   11320
   OBFUSCATION 36004570
  ORDB 31606540
 SORBS-WEB 31605140
  SORBS-ZOMBIE 28002800
   SPFPASS 20802340
  BONDEDSENDER  620 620
   @LINKED  100 140
HABEAS   40  40
  WAMCHECK   10  20
 
 Message Count  120934  175163

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Scott, what do you use to generate this report

2004-04-14 Thread Bill
 
 Some low priority suggestions:
 
 - Change fail wording in the header to trigger or hit 
 or something.
 - Ignore Declude directives, e.g. LOOSENSPAMHEADERS, HOPHIGH, 
 CONSOLE, PREWHITELIST ...
 


Thanks for the suggestions.  

I did try to ignore Declude directives but I went by the manual.  These
are the directives that I am ignoring:

WHITELIST
LOGFILE
LOGLEVEL
CODE
HOP
XINHEADER
XOUTHEADER
XSENDER
XSPOOLNAME
HIDETESTS
IPBYPASS
DNS
AUTOWHITELIST
WHITELISTFILE

If anyone can provide me with a complete list, I will make the
modification.

Thanks,
Bill

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