It was my understanding that AUTOWHITELIST is a necessary function, so I removed the
address from the Web Messaging address book. That solved the problem.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation
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Another dark, impenetrable mystery solved! I had enabled that setting so long ago that
I forgot
about it. Thank you much.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation
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I tried that, and it claimed my email address did not exist on their system. I've only
had one email
address the entire time we've done business with Declude.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation
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. PopFile is also free.
http://popfile.sourceforge.net
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation
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use of the
intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any
message with the following
characteristic did not
trip the filter. I can't figure out why not. Other tests ran fine. Any tips?
From: Emilia Buckley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
Voice: (816) 801-5200
Fax: (816) 880-4776
You know at one time I actually did read the manual. But this time I didn't remember
it! Thank you
Scott.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
Voice: (816) 801-5200
Fax: (816) 880-4776
Toll-free: (800) 525-1101
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We've used it for at least a year. Works fine; no problems.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
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Couldn't find this in the archives. I'm noticing that Delog apparently has problems
reading my
Declude logs now that there have been format changes. I thought of using
search/replace in a good
text editor to make my logs readable, but I wonder if there's a specific syntax Delog
expects?
Keith
that
they used
names I recognized. But I wonder ... if a virus/worm can collect email addresses on an
infected
device, could it not also collect names and use them in the spamming process? What are
the odds?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
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OK, but is it generating usernames or collecting them?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
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Is that a smile or a smirk?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 9:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] trip
Welcome back Scott - how was your trip? Any details?
It was a nice
tips?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
Voice: (816) 801-5200
Fax: (816) 880-4776
(800) 525-1101
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Fred, I don't have your off list email address. If you're still needing CF
help, reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
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the line
return you describe. The OUTGO filter definition and action are the last
two lines in the global.cfg file (not including the final blank line). I
have again tested this by sending out messages with the target text string;
no luck.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation
My experience with SmarterMail is as an end user. The hosting company for my
hobby site made it available as a way to handle email via Web pages. It's
pretty good. What else do you want to know? On or off list?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office
I'm wondering if spammers are trying to the scare the public about industry/government
attempts to
control spammer behavior. Please note the enclosed message received by a co-worker.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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I knew it was a hoax, but was curious if anyone thought it might have been started by
spammers,
especially since there has been some talk of charging bulk emailers a fee. We will
probably never
know for sure.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City
our
domain to
that address. Sure enough, the same text string appeared in the header. I've done some
research but
can't find the reason for this?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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I don't remember seeing default weights, in my experience. Recommend you start with 0
or 1 and then
monitor the results very carefully before incrementing. Just one user's opinion.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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weight to email addressed
to a few
in-house accounts. Of course it's not really a fix if they now get a ton of spam. I've
suggested a
special word that could be distributed to potential new clients for use in sending
us email, but
the idea has not caught on.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
posting this embarrassing fact
for the benefit of anyone who encounters a similar problem.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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I've double-checked the logs for something like that; no luck. I'm mystified.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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True. However, in the case of the samples I'm looking at, each was addressed to only
one user.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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I'm a CFer; I'd like to see a copy of that.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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You could try my method; tell them you're a 92-year-old Korean woman!
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Oops; I was afraid of something like that. Looks like we'll have to try VB instead.
Thank you Kevin.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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not be using IIS or attempting to do anything via web.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Kevin he was talking about my description of the process to him. He wasn't trying to
address you
directly. Thanks again, and sorry for wandering off topic.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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component on our Windows NT 4.0 server where IMail/Declude are installed. Am I looking
at any
possible compatibility issues or gotchas?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Me.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm not having any problems filtering the enclosed item, just passing it along as a
curiosity
because the header is so bizarre.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Select the word list, then send the managers a polite email reminding them that the
new filter may
delete mail from a new customer. That way you've covered your tail if the
receptionist's brain storm
causes the loss of a new account.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed
The message-length limit in particular is probably destined to be revised. We should
have some
control over this. Such as the ability to change it, or the ability to change the
limit when certain
parameters are met.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City
I manage both our public sites and our mail server, so I've consistent direct evidence
of this
harvesting. The quick workaround is to use JavaScript to display the addresses. Most
bots won't
bother to figure it out.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City
Example...
SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript TYPE=text/javascript
!-- //
var grabthis = username;
var andthis = domain.com;
document.write(A HREF= + mail + to: + grabthis + @ + andthis + + grabthis
+ @ +
andthis + /A)
// --
/SCRIPT
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations
Enclosed are several headers taken directly from a main.mbx file on the IMail server.
(A few
internal names have been changed/protected.) The affected line starts with X-Note:
SENT from and
should show REVDNS and REMOTEIP. This only happens about once every 30 messages.
Keith Purtell, Web
address was formerly a backup mail server, and we don't yet have a gateway. Am
I on the
right track now?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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X-Note: SENT from %REVDNS% ([%REMOTEIP%]).
XINHEADER X-Note: Sender address: %MAILFROM%
XSENDER ON
===
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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client gets hold of it??
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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I plugged pink contracts into Google and here's the first link that came up...
http://mail.spamcon.org/pipermail/suespammers/2001-February/000837.html
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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legitimate mail that got caught (rare). Then I delete any spam that only shows up
once; no time to
mess with it. Of the remaining items that are multiple messages from the same spammer,
I look at the
header and body to find out what I should be filtering on.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
For some reason the political spam coming across our server is mostly radical right.
I've seen
exactly one liberal message, and that was a subscription that accidentally got caught
in our spam
traps.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email: [EMAIL
]
13:15:14 Qe68d132103581e07 Subject: RE: Fixed assets
13:15:14 Qe68d132103581e07 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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understand how to use the HEADER action as described in the manual. It's making it
contingent on the
WEIGHT variable that I'm not sure about. Just upgraded to the Pro version. Archive
still down.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED
H, I haven't used weightrange before, that'll help. But to actually make the
message visible to
recipients, looks like I'll have to do something like
In your $Default$.Junkmail have:
WEIGHTHDR HEADER This message weighs %WEIGHT% and may be deleted.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network
in. There are only a few accounts on this server.
IUSR and IWAM,
administrator, myself and my boss, and a special account for FTP access. Any ideas?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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Thanks all for the advice. Ran some tests, and discovered our former firewall (which
had firmware
issues) was detached and never reconnected. We're installing another firewall.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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So, stopped the spam dead cold means it stopped in the recipients mail box? Long
live Declude
JunkMail.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Didn't find this in the archives. Recently I'm seeing more of this: X-Note: This
Email sent from
(timeout). Is there somewhere I can tinker with a setting that will lengthen the time
it takes DNS
to time out?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email
I thought the DNS result inside the X-Note was essentially the same as a traceroute?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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We have a very tight budget and so purchased the standard version. It's frustrating
not to be able
to write external filters, but we get pretty good results anyway just by relying on
the basic filter
set. We only have about 300 users. HTH.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed
but didn't find anything there either. Tips?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Indeed, Google does have information. I've got expand my search engine horizons beyond
Alta Vista!
(P.S. We've got RealTime enabled and tried manual scan.)
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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, in
the same way they understand a policeman might be watching them when they drive their
car down a
road. Certain parts of our daily activities are observed; that's a facet of urban
life. What matters
is whether the prior intent of the observation is hostile.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
Same here; no problems with F-Prot. Plus it fit our budget very nicely.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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I thought those contained plain text and could be opened with a standard text editor?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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If you want to take more aggressive action, try asking politicians to stop taking
money from spammer
lobbyists. Half the problem here is a lack of laws and law enforcement.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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point. Example from JunkMail manual ...
SUBJECT 3 CONTAINS dirty-word
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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weights of up to 60. What
might cause
this? The only changes we made on our system were moving our secondary DNS server to a
different
outgoing line. I did some work on the JunkMail files, but that was just the usual
process of adding
a few offenders to our IP list and so on.
Keith Purtell, Web
No. I've checked the headers of spam that's getting to him. It is getting marked by
Declude, but
isn't failing enough tests to be automatically deleted.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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Laugh if you want, but this is the same basic scene I have imagined while laboring
over the mail
server. However, in my version the cops are like Detective Sipowitz, and the
spammers make the
mistake of resisting arrest.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas
legislation
and law
enforcement regarding spammers.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Before I do this please confirm my logic. Let's say I wanted to get more aggressive
catching spam,
and was willing to risk a possible increase in false positives. Could I adjust the
IPNOTINMX default
setting of -4 in the following way?
IPNOTINMX ipnotinmx x x 0 -3
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you might
have within an ISP. But I don't think you'll find a lot of complaints about JunkMail.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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rules file, kill list and several blacklists? In case a manager ever asks me
how much spam
we're stopping.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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to
automatically delete spam?
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in the header, that re-directs
to the IMail
spambox. Then I open the box with Web Messaging. That way I don't have to review spam
in two
different places.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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Doesn't the outgoing mail section of global.cfg only apply to the Pro version? Just
checking.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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I've been trying to understand this discussion about HOP/HOPHIGH. The docs describe
this as a
feature used when email is internally re-routed. Am I to assume those who contributed
to this thread
have that type of configuration?
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations
I was there about two hours ago, but now it won't come up.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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The only way I've found is to navigate through View = Options and then copy the
Internet header
text found there. We put a how-to with screen captures on our intranet, but most don't
use it.
Easier just to delete.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City
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