[libreoffice-design] Re: Icon test about to start

2012-09-20 Thread Heiko Tietze
Icons are chosen from Snapshot 3.6.2.1: /icon-themes/tango/cmd/lc_* according to /sw/uiconfig/swriter/toolbar/standardbar.xml, all double checked for presence in standard setup. The function name was taken from toolbar button hints. To make our intention clear: the icon test just analyses the

[libreoffice-design] Re: Cleaning up the default toolbars

2012-12-27 Thread Heiko Tietze
I'm wondering why the decision to remove the main menu bar, to clean up a tool bar, to add pop-up menus etc. are made in the design section. I'd like to add some comments from a usability point of view. Tool bars must not be contaminated with pop-up menu. It's reason is fast access for frequently

[libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-30 Thread Heiko Tietze
First of all, personally I share your conclusion on most parts and appreciate your work really. That should be an excuse for my following objections ;-). You should keep in mind that LO is used on many OS with different themes and has therefore more than one icon set (can be configured). In our

[libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-31 Thread Heiko Tietze
Wolfgang Keller wrote MS has always been at the antipode of ergonomics. And they keep moving in the *wrong* direction. Ribbons ... are just the latest cerebral flatulances emanating from their product managers' brains. Lol! BTW: The younger (LO) users are the more they accept Ribbons [1].

[libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-31 Thread Heiko Tietze
Jay Lozier wrote My thought is that users who heavily use software may prefer menus over ribbons while those who do not use the software much prefer ribbons. That argumentation is too simple. Means of self rated expertise from 1=beginner, 2=average user, to 3=expert (no one wants to be a

[libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-01 Thread Heiko Tietze
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote Power users don't prefer toolbars: they prefer keyboard shortcuts... My conclusion is that no decision should be drawn based on guessing and personal preferences. It is not that simple with just age and expertise. For instance, even regular, highly experienced

[libreoffice-design] Re: LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-02-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
Jay Lozier wrote I did not know the shortcut. IMHO your point is that very few if any users will know all the keyboard shortcuts though they will know many of them and the ones they do know are the ones they find the most useful. Absolutely. Additionally I try to point out that expertise is

[libreoffice-design] Re: Flat/Symbolic Icons Update

2013-02-21 Thread Heiko Tietze
I was looking at the colored version trying to figure out what information the color provides. On the first glance it looks like an application of the four color theorem . IMHO, the content code by citrus is not intuitive. Actually, I wonder what happens to the icon of a deactivated/disabled

[libreoffice-design] Re: Flat/Symbolic Icons Update

2013-02-21 Thread Heiko Tietze
Kévin PEIGNOT-3 wrote Hy Heiko, As I sayed, I changed my mind while color coding the icons, I don't think any more it's such useful (also, if someone really think it's an important thing, only user testing can help us). Anyway, I think having more than one color in the icon palette is

[libreoffice-design] Final summary of last Libreoffice icon test

2013-04-10 Thread Heiko Tietze
Over the last days (actually months , sorry for the delay) we reported step by step the results of our last icon test. Finally we prepared a summary now, that concludes some guidelines how to create good metaphors for icons. Semiotics in Usability: Guidelines for the Development of Icon Metaphors

[libreoffice-design] Re: Fwd: Results about LO toolbar configuration

2014-10-29 Thread Heiko Tietze
Jay Philips wrote: Here are the results of the toolbar survey regarding the clipboard and paragraph background color. Forwarded Message Subject: Results about LO toolbar configuration Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:03:20 + From: Heiko Tietze heiko.tie

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Fwd: LO breeze design

2015-03-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Andreas, LO design team has a weekly hangout meeting on Wednesday 6pm (UTC, 19:00 MEZ). You can also talk to me (not necessarily about design) and Jay has always an open ear. Cheers, Heiko. On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 10:43:07AM +0100, kainz.a wrote: 1. Who is response to the icon

Re: [libreoffice-design] Leaving a link here…

2015-03-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
Am 11.03.2015 15:40:16, schrieb Adolfo Jayme Barrientos: (You should know GDocs as you’re using it know makes me feel excluded. Hopefully somebody will care) How would you feel included? Of course your input is very appreciated. About the mockups: It makes sense to start UI discussions from

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Session at 2015-13-06 at 1pm UTC about CMIS integration

2015-03-13 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Friday 13 March 2015, 22:45:01 Björn Balazs wrote: - Why isn't the dialogue part of the normal Open File dialogue (e.g. invoked from there)? As a user I just want to open a file, then define where it is - and remote is rather about the where than the what... (same is true for save) Of

Re: [libreoffice-design] Comments on tooltips

2015-03-31 Thread Heiko Tietze
Is there any good reason to optimize tooltip for length? Anyway, I don't stick to the exact wording. The idea was to have a syntactical convention on how to phrase tooltips. That is in English Verb-Object (Save file) which would be Object-Verb localized in German (Datei speichern). On

Re: [libreoffice-design] Friday Design Sessions

2015-03-04 Thread Heiko Tietze
What topic is up to design? Am 04.03.2015 08:44:44, schrieb Jay Philips: Hi All, The first design session has been set for friday the 6th of march. I've created a doodle poll for those who can make it to fill in. The times listed are in UTC. :D http://doodle.com/37ab5vswkrnegr25

Re: [libreoffice-design] Links to the mockups/comparative analysis

2015-04-13 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday 13 April 2015, 19:37:53 Jay Philips wrote: Will always opt for the license that best suits the project. :D Looked over the licenses for uploading images onto the wiki and both cc by and cc by-sa are listed, so i think either would be good, but i'll have to check with Heiko on his

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice UI Guidelines

2015-04-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
Dear UX, UI and design comrades, today we finalized the basic work for the guideline. I'd like to introduce the artifacts shortly. First of all it contains of the vision. A vision describes the goal of the project. It can be emotive and a source of inspiration, for instance by outlining how

Re: [libreoffice-design] Types of action in the changes dialog

2015-04-30 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Sophie, I neither had the time to test the latest release nor do I know how coding progress is done. But during the analysis we took the type of change into consideration. It is supposed to be shown as a symbol. Read this blog post to learn more:

[libreoffice-design] Etherpad plugin

2015-05-04 Thread Heiko Tietze
[20:59] beluga_ htietze: heiko! check it out, new plugins in da house http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/designtest ... [23:35] htietze beluga_ simply awesome! (I'd say we should reconsider to switch from Google to Etherpad for all design sessions.) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libo-marketing-priv] [libreoffice-design] Visual identity: Application icons - logos, or just icons?

2015-05-05 Thread Heiko Tietze
Am 04.05.2015 18:38:42, schrieb Martin Srebotnjak: Actually, in this example, it is not app icons but representations of e.g. Text Document and not Writer, Presentation and not LibreOffice Impress, so while the first can be iconized, the app icons cannot be a matter of icon set.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Tools for workflow; was: Etherpad plugin

2015-05-05 Thread Heiko Tietze
Am 05.05.2015 08:34:27, schrieb K-J LibreOffice: Some thoughts for workflow: - How can someone find the link to discussions? Wiki, Redmine? So: how can someone of community get notice and can contribute? AFAIK creating a new pad has limited access. If so we have to fix it first. - Is it

Re: [libreoffice-design] Links to the mockups/comparative analysis

2015-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
We talked about this issue. Etherpad needs plugins to deal with images and the Wiki is not easily accessible, at least not everybody has permission to edit. So we decided to run our sessions on GDrive (1), publish the results on blog posts (2) for discussion with the community, come to a

Re: [libreoffice-design] Friday's Insert Chart Design Session

2015-04-06 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Regina, thanks a lot for your reply. Of course, Writer and Calc are just examples for having the chart data included or not. However, Jay and me wonder how to get internal data in Calc working. I guess your are talking from a programmer POV and the data is always stored with the chart. So

Re: [libreoffice-design] Links to the mockups/comparative analysis

2015-04-08 Thread Heiko Tietze
All design sessions are shared on GDrive https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6qJrVIa0SAlcFV0Q2lWMmdUcW8 If you need a particular screenshot and in case you don't have Balsamiq at hand I can export what you want. Am 08.04.2015 15:56:51, schrieb Sophie: Hi all, I was preparing a

[libreoffice-design] HIG

2015-06-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi, we continued the work on the HIG. If you want to comment the working document please go to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit# If there are no complaints from the UX team it's planned to present it again first on the blog post. And if the

Re: [libreoffice-design] HIG

2015-06-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Friday 26 June 2015, 17:26:07 Cor Nouws wrote: Heiko Tietze wrote on 26-06-15 16:56: we continued the work on the HIG. If you want to comment the working document please go to Thanks Heiko. I did comment once, iirc on this subject, but I can't see it. Could it be another document

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Theme for new Extensions-Template-Site: Current Status

2015-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
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[libreoffice-design] Validity of survey data (was: feedback on #91781)

2015-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Validity of survey data

2015-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
Am 15.06.2015 15:13:35, schrieb Italo Vignoli: On 15/06/15 14:39, Heiko Tietze wrote: I'm very surprised that two trolls (at least in the mentioned thread). Thanks for calling me a troll. I'm sorry but you get me wrong. I was refering to Dingo-Dog and Tommy as trolls

Re: [libreoffice-design] Copies of OOo survey data

2015-05-31 Thread Heiko Tietze
Thanks for keeping up on this, Jay. On the first glance there are no raw data included, it's still the total number. For example .uno:SwBackspace with a count of 126376145 (Material_Christoph/OOo Usage Tracking Data/OOo31_Usage_Feedback_Data.ods). However to classify data with independent

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Impress/Draw mockup

2015-08-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Sunday 09 August 2015, 01:24:49 diaz.bast...@openmailbox.org wrote: Every time I make a report of improvement with concepts or mockups, a developer suggests me report ideas directly to the design team through IRC or the mailing list. Empathize with the devs, they need realizable

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [GSoC] Improve user experience with CMIS – Weekly report #6

2015-07-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
Am 24.07.2015 12:28:27, schrieb Szymon Kłos: * when opening the Open Remote, and there is no service added yet, the Add service dialog should open directly I wouldn't do so. It's pretty clear that no service has been configured. I've already implemented this and rest of kendy's

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [GSoC] Improve user experience with CMIS – Weekly report #6

2015-07-23 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday 20 July 2015, 08:32:49 Jan Holesovsky wrote: * when opening the Open Remote, and there is no service added yet, the Add service dialog should open directly I wouldn't do so. It's pretty clear that no service has been configured. * when opening the Open Remote dialog, either the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [GSoC] Improve user experience with CMIS –Weekly report #6

2015-07-20 Thread Heiko Tietze
Can we get a screenshot? Or is it implemented in the nightlies? Am 20.07.2015 08:32:49, schrieb Jan Holesovsky: * [to be discussed in with the UX/Design team] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal

2015-11-12 Thread Heiko Tietze
Yellow in front of white has not enough contrast. Especially for people with a not so good display or impaired vision. And just scaling down images makes no sense because the details cannot be read anymore. But all together I like the pics. The reduced contrast and this unobtrusive dog-ear are

Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal (w/ links)

2015-11-07 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Friday 06 November 2015 22:16:44 Paulo José Amaro wrote: > ... I just > wanna share it with you and put myself available to work again on the > design team if you want me to. ^_^ You are very welcome at the design team. We meet every Wednesday on Hangout at 6pm UTC [1]. There are always

Re: [libreoffice-design] Implementing accessibility in impress

2015-11-03 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Alberto, you mean when going to the next slide its content is being read? Sounds as if it works out of the box or never because of the SR capabilities. Or am I wrong? Cheers, Heiko PS: CC'ing to accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org which might be the better place; no idea how much traffic

Re: [libreoffice-design] Why are not all dialog boxes are resizable?

2015-10-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday 19 October 2015 15:58:32 K-J LibreOffice wrote: > Hi all, > starting with a discussion on German ml [1] about different sizes on the > dialog box of "Export as PDF" in different UIs (bug 95178 [2]) Thorsten > recognizes that 275 dialog boxes aren't resizable, others are resizable. > >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Styles / properties in side bar

2015-07-08 Thread Heiko Tietze
It's planned but there is not more than a template yet: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18_dRi2x5e9VHILAJ7GKFCfbgidf5MHGtRuOsnGBt5Ao/edit On Wednesday 08 July 2015, 00:55:17 Cor Nouws wrote: Hi, I have some ideas to improve on how the styles list and properties for character and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving printing UX

2015-07-12 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Thursday 09 July 2015, 12:02:06 Michel RENON wrote: Maybe add an exception to your rule ? :-) Every rule needs an exception. :-) Looks like all cards are on the table; thanks for the references, Michel. What's your schedule, Katarina? Do we have as much time as the prior art took? -- To

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving printing UX

2015-08-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, as an average user or rather Benjamin like beginner I'm quite confused. What I expect is a good preview which feds back what is being sent to the printer. In particular if my footnotes fits onto A4, whether all columns are shown in landscape view, or if my color cartridge is really not

Re: [libreoffice-design] Remove SplashScreen

2015-10-04 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Sunday 04 October 2015 01:04:16 Bryan Quigley wrote: > So the status quo is that you can add --nologo to the libreoffice > command to have no splash screen. Is that what you are all agreeing > to? Yes, there it is. And you are right it speeds up loading a little bit, at least it feels like.

Re: [libreoffice-design] "eat our own dog food"

2015-12-03 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Friday 04 December 2015 00:32:29 Michel RENON wrote: > So why not create mockups with LO Draw ? Nothing against dog food, and of course Draw is a useful tool. But to adopt a paintting tool for mockups is like writing code with a text processor. My scribbles are done with Balsamiq Mockups,

Re: [libreoffice-design] Rule Colors - Color Change Needs Review

2015-12-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
I'm pretty sure that defining colors yourself you will run into trouble. For instance, if someone likes a colorful theme he or she might be used to red on blue. Not to forget the mentioned hi-contrast theme. It's not clear to me why reading system colors is such a problem (guess that is what

Re: [libreoffice-design] Redesign of user data (contact data)

2015-12-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Thursday 03 December 2015 21:49:00 Bastián Díaz wrote: > * Clearly divided information for work/business and personal > information Maybe you have a tabs bar in mind, makes sense. But doesn't it break the workflow of many people since, for instance, Sender would become

Re: [libreoffice-design] "eat our own dog food"

2015-12-17 Thread Heiko Tietze
After some consideration I think this idea is good. At least it is a worth a discussion with the community. With this intention I prepared a blog post: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MrSd7nwm3PJfKg_DQ79Sbc4jlqWeX280U_yF81pvQiQ/edit?usp=sharing (the text should be published finally, if we

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-13 Thread Heiko Tietze
You are talking about mode toolbar with Rotate, Flip, 3D Rotation, Circle perspective etc.? Cannot imagine that many people use it for presentations, but maybe when Impress is the tool for drawing scenes. Anyway, you can enable the toolbar via View > Toolbars and dock it somewhere (or you

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-10

2016-06-10 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: + Heiko, Akshay, Susobhan, Jay, Samuel, Kendy, Bubli, Cor (partly) Easy hacks that need code pointers + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59570 (scrollbar into slider at draw export dialogs) Google Summer of Code * Template Manager (Akshay) + How to

[libreoffice-design] Re: [libo-marketing-priv] Blog post to involve esyhackers

2016-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
2016-06-15 13:30 GMT+02:00 Mike Saunders : > Hi Heiko, > > That's a great idea. I've gone through the blog post and cleaned up a bit of > the English. As Cor notes, it's a good idea to present the easy hacks as > fun, and highlight from the start that they

[libreoffice-design] Blog post to involve esyhackers

2016-06-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, I prepared a blog post with the intention to find more people doing easyhacks. The idea is that we have tickets that require not much coding skill. But even this might feel as a hurdle. When we find people for the graphical only task it could be a first step. Please read the (really

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-03

2016-06-03 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: + Heiko, Kendy, Akshay, Susobhan, Bubli, Jay, Samuel Easy hack that need code pointers + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53391 (draw save as presentation) Google Summer of Code * Template Manager (Akshay) + List view for Template manager

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-May-27

2016-05-27 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Samuel, Jay, Heiko, Susobhan, Akshay * Easy hack that need code pointers * May-27 + tdf#86350 (context menu renaming 'Rotate Image') + tdf#86853 (uno commands for Embossed and Engraved) + tdf#86601 (position protection from context menu) + tdf#84704 (sidebar scrollbar

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-17

2016-06-17 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: + Cor, Kendy, Bubli, Samuel, Jay, Heiko, Akshay, Sushobhan Confirmed easy hacks + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92152 (half arrow head; skill: svg/design) + Blog post:

Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-17

2016-06-17 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Freitag, 17. Juni 2016 16:13:46 CEST Stephan Bergmann wrote: > On 06/17/2016 03:47 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote: > > Enhancements and proposals > > + Push extensions (Heiko) > Just to clarify: You're talking about .oxt extensions here? If you want so, yes. Whether binary cod

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-24

2016-06-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: + Kendy, Rishabh, Heiko, Samuel, Susobhan, Akshay, Szymon, Cor, Jay (late) Easy hacks that need code pointers + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48015 (export all pages in Draw) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37654 (labels at pages

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Friday, 15 January 2016 11:49:26 CET Michel RENON wrote: > Please note that I was talking about "use cases, prototypes, user > testing and iterate", not surveys. That's my daily business too. But for LibO, and any other open source application, you cannot run the development based on usability

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-14 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 11:32:59 CET Michel RENON wrote: > You said very important things ! > That's the core problem : currently, there is no user feedback. > > The design team is very motivated to create good UI, but we (as I > participated in the design team) have the "ivory tower"

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-15 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Friday, 15 January 2016 16:57:49 CET Michel RENON wrote: > Well, that blog post talks exactly about that, and even some usability > tests on... LibreOffice ! > http://opensource-usability.blogspot.fr/2016/01/usability-of-open-source-sof > tware.html > > and another feedback on recent changes :

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-14 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 10:59:06 CET Sophie wrote: > Would it be possible to discuss this during the next meeting? Good idea. I tried to summarize the discussion in the minutes [1]. Looking forward tomorrow 1:00pm UTC (14:00 GMT). [1] http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/design -- To

[libreoffice-design] Blogpost about menu changes

2016-01-18 Thread Heiko Tietze
Dear UX folks, some questions came up on the bugtracker regarding the massive changes in the menus. People are afraid that there is no good reason for the modification and the entries are just shuffled around. To explain the reasons I prepared a blog post with the intention to published the text

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

2016-01-16 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Saturday, 16 January 2016 12:59:57 CET Arnaud Versini wrote: > 2016-01-15 13:14 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze <tietze.he...@googlemail.com>: > > But for LibO, and any other open source > > application, you cannot run the development based on usability tests. > > Wh

Re: [libreoffice-design] Survey about Libreoffice Draw

2016-02-05 Thread Heiko Tietze
To conclude the replies so far: Andrea's and Jan-Marek's approach to Draw is vector drawing in terms of flow charts like MS Visio, or yed [1]. Regina adds many more aspects so it would be more like Inkscape. With the competitor Calligra/Krita in mind we could also aim to address art work. And

Re: [libreoffice-design] New default fonts

2016-02-13 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Saturday, 13 February 2016 16:12:44 CET Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > Hi All, > > During this week's design meeting, the discussion about changing the > default font in Impress to Source Sans Pro (tdf#97577) was discussed > further and i felt that changing the default font in only one app isnt

Re: [libreoffice-design] Survey about Libreoffice Draw

2016-02-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
; do not fit together, so the question is > unclear. > > "Flowchart": I would add "organigram" and delete "hierarchical". > > "Freeform curves": That is only a very special kind of curve and not the > most important one. Important ar

[libreoffice-design] Survey about Libreoffice Draw

2016-02-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi folks, some time ago we talked about dogfooding. Unfortunately it never comes to a publication but we realized that Draw is kind of a strange beast. To understand how users understand the tool and what they expect in the future I prepared a blog post and a survey. And I'd ask you to check

[libreoffice-design] Sidebar Survey

2016-02-23 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, we repeatedly talk about sidebars, whether it should be resizable with or without constraints, how to make it configurable, what features to add, and so on. Often we run into a fundamental discussion, which is an indicator for a missing concept. So the idea is to ask the users how they

[libreoffice-design] Intermediate results from the Draw survey

2016-02-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
are missing... -- Dr. Heiko Tietze UX Designer Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-design] Sidebar Survey

2016-02-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 12:34:35 CET Pedro Rosmaninho wrote: > Is the survey already running or will it still be launched? Nope, still time to add ideas. > Anyway, I would just like to make a proposal for changing one aspect of the > behaviour of the Sidebar and toolbar. Right now on LO

Re: [libreoffice-design] Sidebar Survey

2016-02-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 11:06:21 CET Steve Edmonds wrote: > On 2016-02-26 10:41, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > > There isnt a duplication if you choose not to use the sidebar... > Agree with the easy switching. I work mostly ... Before we go into detail, this thread aims to setup a survey.

[libreoffice-design] What do you expect from the sidebar in Libreoffice?

2016-02-26 Thread Heiko Tietze
to the survey. It will be online until March-18. Please spread the word so we get as many participants as possible. Cheers, Heiko -- Dr. Heiko Tietze UX Designer Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Ideation on LibreOffice Logo Improvements

2016-01-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
s://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/2/25/LibreOffice_LogoImprovements2016_Ideation.png > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/LogoImprovements2016 > > > Am Samstag, den 23.01.2016, 23:45 +0100 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > > On Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:02

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
t; Le 24/01/2016 17:21, Andreas Mantke a écrit : > > Hello Heiko, > > > > Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze: > >> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote: > >>> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from > >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday, 25 January 2016 18:47:32 CET you wrote: > Sorry for nitpicking but is there any strong reasons why this text is not on > our wiki instead of a US coppration now owning this content? I know > everyone can access it but it is not on our servers. It got into habits for the UX people to

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday, 25 January 2016 19:30:32 CET Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Some use Google despite repeated complaints of others. We have pads then, if > the wiki is not deemed to be the right place Sharing a document on two places is worse than everything else. But here it is:

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Ideation on LibreOffice Logo Improvements

2016-01-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday, 25 January 2016 23:41:45 CET Christoph Noack wrote: > Sorry, I'm a bit lost - are these proposals how marketing guys might > describe the logo, or does this directly to the HIG foundations at [1]? > If you like to know more about the requirements / constraints I had in > mind, I can

Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Ideation on LibreOffice Logo Improvements

2016-01-23 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:02:34 CET Christoph Noack wrote: > What are your initial thoughts, pros, cons, or ideas? I would really > appreciate your feedback - and your questions. And, if needed, I'll set > up a dedicated whiteboard for that topic ...?Thanks! The logo is perfect, especially

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote: > although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from > possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We > need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users > perspective and if there

Re: [libreoffice-design] Blogpost about menu changes

2016-01-20 Thread Heiko Tietze
<gautier.sop...@gmail.com>: > Hi all, > Le 18/01/2016 16:04, Cor Nouws a écrit : > > Dear Heiko, > > > > Heiko Tietze wrote on 18-01-16 15:30: > > > >> [...] Since we speak with one voice I'd like to ask you to > >> proof-read, comment, and improve the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving the Usability of Draw

2016-02-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Freitag, 19. Februar 2016 06:06:37 CET Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > With Heiko's Draw survey ending today, its findings will also be used to > improve the proposal. Let's rephrase this a little bit: The survey data will be the foundation of the improvement proposal. The paper will be adopted

Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving the Usability of Draw

2016-02-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Freitag, 19. Februar 2016 06:06:37 CET Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote: > With Heiko's Draw survey ending today, its findings will also be used to Raw data from the survey can be downloaded from GDrive (will find a better place). The file is a zip compressed CSV with all collected data including

Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

2016-04-11 Thread Heiko Tietze
2016-04-10 15:51 GMT+02:00 toki : > Is the only locale in the survey « EN »? We run some of the previous studies localized. Even Chinese was included in one of the surveys. The problem is that not only waiting for the translation team heavily reduces the velocity but also

[libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

2016-03-23 Thread Heiko Tietze
Dear UX evangelists, I finished the analysis and wrote a draft for publication. For convenience it's done Google only. But the final posting will be published on our blog. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10fQTWACY5X5MIRMFEP2JSdq1l3MLh1p_nxW6GykrNLU/edit?usp=sharing Actually, I split the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

2016-03-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Freitag, 25. März 2016 01:29:46 CET toki wrote: > On 24/03/2016 09:29, Heiko Tietze wrote: > >> Can you redo the charts in colour, rather than B > > Sure. But why? > Improve3s readability/ease of understanding. > >And what color? > Each one a different colo

Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposal: Usability testing LibreOffice in a university course

2016-03-25 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Freitag, 25. März 2016 12:11:13 CET Christoph Wimmer wrote: > @Heiko: I’ve greatly enjoyed your article about usability semiotics for the > development of icon metaphors and have used it in my teaching in the past, > nice to meet you :) Oh, you are the one :-). -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposal: Usability testing LibreOffice in a university course

2016-03-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hello Christoph, sure that would be nice. As a starting point to figure out what to do in detail, you and your students may check the previous studies at User Prompt (Andreas refers to only one publication) and later on at the LibO design blog. Two more surveys are conducted and the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

2016-03-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
13:30:58 CET Mike Saunders wrote: > Hi Heiko, > > On 23.03.2016 17:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: > > As usual the English is a shame and needs proof-reading from natives. > > Not a shame; the English is mostly great! But I'm a native speaker and > can do a few cleanups if you l

Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

2016-03-24 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Mittwoch, 23. März 2016 21:09:54 CET toki wrote: > On 23/03/2016 16:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: > > read critical to make sure that it's not too concise, not boring, and > > that you can follow the argumentation. > > Can you redo the charts in colour, rather than B Sure. Bu

Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey

2016-03-29 Thread Heiko Tietze
ps. The only bit I didn't understand was this: "Remark: Goes to figure > caption of the legend" > > Anyway, it's a fascinating read so when you make it live on the Design blog > I can generate some interest around it on Twitter, Reddit, Hacker News etc. > > Cheers, > Mik

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-04-01

2016-04-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Samstag, 2. April 2016 18:32:45 CEST Italo Vignoli wrote: > I have installed a different antispam filter, which seems to work better > than the previous one. In any case, it will be necessary to look at > comments from time to time to check that those blocked as spam are real > spam. Thanks a

[libreoffice-design] Publication of the sidebar survey results

2016-03-31 Thread Heiko Tietze
Salutations, all together! the sidebar survey has been analyzed and the publication of the results is prepared. As usual I kindly ask for proof-reading.and comments. This time it's relevant since I suggest some changes to the sidebar HIG in the name if the LibO design/UX team. Affecting the

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-May-13

2016-05-20 Thread Heiko Tietze
* Present: Heiko, Samuel, Akshay, Stuart, Yousuf * GSoC * GSoC welcome blog post + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/05/09/welcome-gsoc-students/ + published May/09 * Template Manager "Save Mode" (Akshay) + Current "Save Mode" is confusing +

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-May-20

2016-05-21 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Samuel, Jay, Heiko, Susobhan, Akshay Google Summer of Code * Template Manager (Akshay) * May-20: + New template manager & save dialog implemented ( https:// gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/24545/ ) + Bug/Enhancement report https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

[libreoffice-design] Blog post to welcome GSoC students

2016-05-02 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, many mentoring organizations welcome their students (or rather students say Hello), so we should do as well. That's also a good way to inform the community about ongoing projects. Here is my proposal:

[libreoffice-design] Hangout Friday May/06

2016-05-04 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, since at least Germany has a bridge day after the free ascension day tomorrow I wonder if we want to run the meeting on Friday. Actually I added a couple of topics to the pad, nothing really pressing, and would be available, but only via mobile. And without a desktop PC an invitation is

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Calc

2016-04-18 Thread Heiko Tietze
llo Heiko, > ​​ > you're right, I like this feature too but I think something else so I > attach a screenshot. If you refuse this suggestion, I will understand. > > Best regards > Pavel > > 2016-04-18 17:12 GMT+02:00 Heiko Tietze <tietze.he...@googlemail.com>: > &

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Calc

2016-04-18 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Pavel, could you please explain which functionality you want to remove? Cell background is white by default, and blue when selected (depending on your theme). The active cell is indicated by a black frame. Looks good here :-). You could also write a bug report against ux-advice and attach a

Re: [libreoffice-design] Not visible cursor in colored background

2016-04-20 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi Mateusz, your idea of having a different cursor will not work. LibreOffice aims to be as close to the system theme as possible. And the cursor is part of the OS definition. Keep in mind that other users may run a dark theme with a bright cursor. You should rather consider to use a lighter

[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jul-22

2016-07-22 Thread Heiko Tietze
Date: 2016-July-22 Present: Olivier, Jay, Heiko, Akshay, Regina, Rishabh, Susobhan, Tomaz, Unknown, Samuel, bubli Easy hacks and extensions - nothing new Google Summer of Code * Template Manager (Akshay/Samuel) + Emoji continued + Start center filter will be added

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

2016-07-14 Thread Heiko Tietze
Hi all, thanks a lot for the enlightening discussion. Additionally to the idea of improving the navigator we also need to discuss how to handle layers since ODF defines it differently from what the average user understands. We will have a design session tomorrow at 2pm UTC (16:00 Berlin CEST) on

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