How do I stop the component manager offering me a proxy and force it to
give me the object itself?
Maybe this one: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11153970592r=1w=4 ??
Jörg
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Le 4 oct. 05, à 09:21, Michael Wechner a écrit :
...one could also imagine
an OpenDocument block where the ZipSource would be part of it.
If people like it and other usecases would show up, then we could
move it to the core at some later stage.
Makes sense?..
IMHO, yes if the block includes
Hi,
I'm mainly active on the users list, but being a full-time developer I am also monitoring the dev
mailing list, just to keep my eyes open for new interesting features..
I do think that the feedback on the users list is rather low. Traffic on that list is usually much
lower on the users
Jörg Heinicke wrote:
How do I stop the component manager offering me a proxy and force it to
give me the object itself?
Maybe this one: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11153970592r=1w=4 ??
Strange, but it works. Implementing Component made it work. Presumably
that doesn't matter in
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 15:51, Geert Josten wrote:
1. Rename the list support@ or some similarly positive term.
2. Route all support@ mails to dev@ with a [SUPPORT] subject marker.
That keeps users who want to be protected from the RTs, wild dev
discussions and so on.
+1 to this
On 03 Oct 2005, at 21:30, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Great comment, Steven. I feel my self direct addressed with this
statement.
I wonder why you should, really. Quite the opposite, actually.
Now, I know what this work means for other community members.
I think you're doing an ace job
Mark Leicester wrote:
Hi all,
When we discussed the issue of declining posts to the users list earlier
this year (http://www.planetcocoon.com/node/1755 - the trend was visible
back then too), I suggested interviewing subscribers about what they
want, what they don't like, their level of
Hi all,
Should we do the bugtable again at the hackaton? And is someone willing to
printout the bugreports or should I arrange that?
(Bertrand...? I know you're busy..)
Kind regards,
Arjé Cahn
Hippo
Oosteinde 11
1017WT Amsterdam
The Netherlands
Tel +31 (0)20 5224466
Ross,
There is a considerable amount of documentation in the legacydocs in
Daisy at cocoon.zones and although it is not finished yet, the
navigation doc reflects about 80% of the current documentation.
So it would be nice if you could try your Daisy2Forrest app to see if
things work out or
Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes:
how about closing
the users at list and having just one list for cocoon-related
discussions?
So, WDYT?
Two: Cocoon-dev is scary for newbies, or even intermediate users.
Disruptive random thoughts, design discussions about the very deep
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
I think I have a few good reasons for this:
One: The line between cocoon users and developers is fairly thin, it is
not as in Open Office for example, where most users do not even know
what the C language is. Our users are more and more competent software
Niclas Hedhman niclas at hedhman.org writes:
I am also against user list. It has a degenerating tone to it, and the
fact that many developers are not subscribed to user at seems to promote
that notion further.
Nah! I don't think that's true. This has nothing to do with a bad tone. It's
just
Le 4 oct. 05, à 10:35, Arje Cahn a écrit :
...Should we do the bugtable again at the hackaton? And is someone
willing to printout the bugreports or should I arrange that?
(Bertrand...? I know you're busy..)
I am, won't have time to do it before I leave, but if there's a printer
there we'll
Steven Noels wrote:
...
The same kind of wonder I had when this thread started - as in oh no,
this is sooo easy and self-centered!.
Yes self-centered and irresponsible.
--- o0o ---
Stefano,
We are a large number of people who got inspired of your visions and
have
On 4 Oct 2005, at 10:16, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
[...]
You really don't help us.
Are you sure about this? Especially when you say:
[...]
We are a strong community with a great product that is going to be
even greater, we can make it.
The first resource of open-source is ego.
Since
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Le 3 oct. 05, à 21:30, Antonio Gallardo a écrit :
...I WASTED not only my last weekend, but a lot of time keeping the
f*** java 1.3 compatibility...
I agree about the *** but anyway, THANKS Antonio for this work.
Keeping 1.3 compatibility for the 2.1.x branch has been a community
decision
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Thomas Lutz wrote:
Ok, so lets sum up what we've got so far:
-its not sure that we get valid data from the binding
-so we need validation _and_ enabling/disabling of the action buttons
-enabling and disabling could be done in the ActionRepeater* classes
So the last problem is the right place
Jorg Heymans wrote:
Splitting up mailinglists works for other OS projects because either
1) they have a self sustaining user list with a lot of advanced users
willing to help out eg Spring forums
2) the developers *actively* help out on every post eg maven-users
As an active Cocoon user I
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
On 4 Oct 2005, at 10:16, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
[...]
You really don't help us.
Are you sure about this? Especially when you say:
[...]
We are a strong community with a great product that is going to be
even greater, we can make it.
The first resource of
Hi,
On 3 Oct 2005, at 16:19, Steven Noels wrote:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon, and
would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with people - not to
mention throwing some flack at Steven
Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Oct 2005, at 16:19, Steven Noels wrote:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon, and
would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with people - not to
mention
Le 4 oct. 05, à 12:14, Andrew Savory a écrit :
...Anyone else arriving tonight?...
I'll be there sometime tomorrow morning only, please send some flak
towards Steven on my behalf ;-)
-Bertrand
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On 04 Oct 2005, at 12:14, Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Oct 2005, at 16:19, Steven Noels wrote:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon, and
would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with people -
On 04.10.2005, at 12:14, Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Oct 2005, at 16:19, Steven Noels wrote:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon,
and would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with
...don't forget to print your PGP fingerprints :)
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Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 3 oct. 05, à 21:30, Antonio Gallardo a écrit :
...I WASTED not only my last weekend, but a lot of time keeping the
f*** java 1.3 compatibility...
I agree about the *** but anyway, THANKS Antonio for this work.
Keeping 1.3 compatibility for the 2.1.x branch has
Torsten Curdt tcurdt at apache.org writes:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon,
and would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with people - not
to mention throwing some flack at Steven
Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Oct 2005, at 16:19, Steven Noels wrote:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon, and
would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with people - not to
mention
Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Oct 2005, at 16:19, Steven Noels wrote:
I'll be in Amsterdam tomorrow evening, ready to catch some flack.
Anyone else arriving tonight? I'll be there from late afternoon, and
would welcome the chance to grab a few beers with people - not to
mention
Hi Bertrand,
I am, won't have time to do it before I leave, but if there's
a printer
there we'll find a way.
Great, thanks. I'm not really sure we'll have a printer available
But we'll think of something. We can always print in our offices which is not
too far away.
Arje
Michael Wechner wrote:
I would suggest to add them to the core,
I'm on it
Vadim
Helma van der Linden wrote:
Ross,
There is a considerable amount of documentation in the legacydocs in
Daisy at cocoon.zones and although it is not finished yet, the
navigation doc reflects about 80% of the current documentation.
So it would be nice if you could try your Daisy2Forrest app
On 04 Oct 2005, at 15:00, Ross Gardler wrote:
Steven hoped to find the time to do it last week.
No, I didn't. How about during the HT? Upgrading shouldn't take more
than an hour.
/Steven
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Steven Noels wrote:
On 04 Oct 2005, at 15:00, Ross Gardler wrote:
Steven hoped to find the time to do it last week.
No, I didn't. How about during the HT? Upgrading shouldn't take more
than an hour.
+1
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Steven Noels wrote:
On 04 Oct 2005, at 15:00, Ross Gardler wrote:
Steven hoped to find the time to do it last week.
No, I didn't. How about during the HT? Upgrading shouldn't take more
than an hour.
I currently don't have access to the zone (I'm not a committer here at
Cocoon), however,
W4b - Web for business s.r.l., web agency con sede in Firenze, sta
cercando un programmatore con esperienza su Cocoon per lo sviluppo di
importanti software gestionali.
Le conoscenze richieste sono:
- Ottime conoscenze dei linguaggi XML, XSLT, XPATH, Java, Sql e javascript.
- Ottime
Upayavira wrote:
David wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
David wrote:
I am writing a cocoon transformer and need to know when any of
multiple xpaths match. I'm sure there must be a be a more efficient
way then converting it to a DOM document and then running each xpath
to get the nodelist of
Alessandro Vincelli wrote:
W4b - Web for business s.r.l., web agency con sede in Firenze, sta
cercando un programmatore con esperienza su Cocoon per lo sviluppo di
importanti software gestionali.
Le conoscenze richieste sono:
- Ottime conoscenze dei linguaggi XML, XSLT, XPATH, Java, Sql e
David wrote:
Upayavira wrote:
David wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
David wrote:
I am writing a cocoon transformer and need to know when any of
multiple xpaths match. I'm sure there must be a be a more
efficient way then converting it to a DOM document and then
running each xpath to get
Upayavira wrote:
Jörg Heinicke wrote:
How do I stop the component manager offering me a proxy and force it to
give me the object itself?
Maybe this one: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11153970592r=1w=4 ??
Strange, but it works. Implementing Component made it work. Presumably
that
I'd like to chime in here.
Your points make perfect sense, But as a user ( I say user because
cocoon internals are beyond my capability/time constraints to figure
out) I get stuck with a WTF moment, struggle, struggle, struggle,
Email users@, wait maybe 3-4 days, rewrite the mail because
Geert Josten wrote:
...
Too bad you cannot cross-post between the two lists, that alone could
have made things easier.
The developer list should receive mails also from the user list with
[Users] prepended. In this way developers get user mails, but users
don't need to read all the
Thomas,
i've not tried it yet, but thanks for the effort!
Jeroen
Thomas Lutz wrote:
Thomas Lutz wrote:
Ok, so lets sum up what we've got so far:
-its not sure that we get valid data from the binding
-so we need validation _and_ enabling/disabling of the action buttons
-enabling and
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
...
The same kind of wonder I had when this thread started - as in oh no,
this is sooo easy and self-centered!.
Yes self-centered and irresponsible.
LOL
Steven and Daniel, I'm sorry, but your comments prove my point. Sylvain
was the only one
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
...
The same kind of wonder I had when this thread started - as in oh
no, this is sooo easy and self-centered!.
Yes self-centered and irresponsible.
LOL
Steven and Daniel, I'm sorry, but your comments prove my
On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:51 AM, JD Daniels wrote:
I figured out how to use it, I am off making my own POJO's to plug
into the basic cocoon install I have settled on. I have a suspicion
that the drop in traffic is attributable to this - users simply
evolve. The questions I have to ask now (As
Mark Lundquist wrote:
On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:51 AM, JD Daniels wrote:
I figured out how to use it, I am off making my own POJO's to plug
into the basic cocoon install I have settled on. I have a suspicion
that the drop in traffic is attributable to this - users simply
evolve. The questions I
Folks,
it's probably only me missing the announcement... but I fail to see the
6th of Oct. meeting-point for the dinner on the GT website: could
someone point it tp me ?
Regards,
Luca Morandini
www.lucamorandini.it
Thomas Lutz schrieb:
Hello list,
Although I am not sure wether I know how this framework works yet :-), I
am quite sure the drop in traffic has a lot to do with it. So +1 for me.
Where are the new users that start with cocoon ? I think, whoever starts
with cocoon has enough webexperience to
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On 4 Oct 2005, at 14:53, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Alessandro Vincelli wrote:
W4b - Web for business s.r.l., web agency con sede in Firenze, sta
cercando un programmatore con esperienza su Cocoon per lo sviluppo
di importanti software gestionali.
Le conoscenze richieste sono:
- Ottime
Thank you for your response. I will surely look into STC more but am
really hoping for complete xpath support.
The paper you referenced me too... any idea if its actually been done?
Sounds like it is just ideas and hasn't been implemented.
Thanks,
David
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
David
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Stefano,
We are a large number of people who got inspired of your visions and
have spent years on develop and implement them. Some have even built
companies around Cocoon. Now everyone who want to start using Cocoon in
a project, sell products based on it or services
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 21:53, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Wow! A Cocoon job offer for italians only
Nah, that would be discrimination nowadays. A job where understanding italian
is a pre-requisite, must be the term. Maybe it should have been listed under
languages :o)
Cheers
Niclas
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