and performs concatenation anyway. Moreover, this is no solution to
logger.debug(my {} message, runMeAndIllKillYourMachine()) which
still would need to be wrapped...
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specific meaning in software development as a whole. Or is
there a distinction I'm not aware of between components and services
(besides avalonish stuff)?
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that is cooking on my
drive as well. Does it have to do with HTMLArea XML binding stuff? If
so, I'd be much interested in seeing it in the repo... :)
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support for
namespaced XML binding. However, I'm a bit uncomfortable in committing
it right away since they touch an area where I have limited knowledge
of possible side effects. Would you rather have me commit the whole
thing right away or rather submit a patch in Bugzilla?
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I propose to add a new import feature in cocoon.xconf so that
adding/removing blocks to a Cocoon instance doesn't require do merge
each block's configuration in a unique cocoon.xconf file as of today.
Big +1, big hugs, big pats, huge thankyou!
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On Oct 28, 2004, at 5:04 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
Folks please cast your votes for:
[+1] Leszek
[+1] Ralph
as Apache Cocoon committers.
And welcome aboard!
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? I know this would mean a hefty download, but isn't this
why bittorrent is there? Others then might jump in and postproduce the
sessions. But I would certainly like having DVD quality video for the
GT.
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namespace scopes
in the binding file with JXPath looks quite scary at a first look.
Anyone willing to help out?
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community. It's stage time, come and speak up!
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think of. I would rather let
them die the painful death they deserve.
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But hey, the GT is a different place and Gent is better than Vegas! ;)
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instruct your staff to understand that
map:serializer type=html-3600-ttl/ is a different beast from
map:serializer type=html-nocache/. Do you think they'd get it?
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o r l d i n g s
or even
g r e e w o r l d
or, why not,
g r w o r l d g s
I'm not saying this is happening (well, the first and secondd scenario
are, actually), but the spec explicitely say it might.
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(if it can be done on Websphere, it should be feasible everywhere :)),
and if it doesn't work you always have the ParanoidCocoonServlet to
help you.
Of course, merging the two would be *much* better...
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* stuff. Definitely viral.
With all this in mind, I have an hard time defining Spring as a safe
bet licensing wise.
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On Aug 11, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
On 11 Aug 2004, at 11:18, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
On Aug 11, 2004, at 10:53 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
So yes, we must remove Hibernate-related code from what we
redistribute from Spring.
I'm not even sure this is enough. It is from a purely legal
/gt2004/
Still lots of work to do, but dates are fixed at least.
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On Aug 9, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Jennifer Yip wrote:
Just found out about this - is this closed now or is there anyway to
sign up?
Registration is actually not yet open, so don't worry as you'll have
plenty of time to sign up. :-)
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.
hintWouldn't this be nice feature/hint :-)
Not just nice, I'd kill for it. But I understand that we're a long way
from being clusterizable: AFAIU the continuation by itself isn't (and
can't be made) serializable, so there is no use in putting it into the
session for the sake of HA.
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) of doing things. But, of course, IMHO.
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status information (see SWT#reportResult()).
Am I missing something?
So, is it time to grab this issue once and for all, providing a common solution?
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to the WSProxyGenerator). But I'm
open to change my mind.
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On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Bruno Dumon wrote:
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 18:23, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I'm currently working on a more-than-average sized cforms
applications. We
have quite a few usecases where validation is kind of a PITA,
requiring
quite a few of business logic to be performed
and/or the whole avalon environment?
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I'm currently working on a more-than-average sized cforms applications. We
have quite a few usecases where validation is kind of a PITA, requiring
quite a few of business logic to be performed. Nothing difficult, nothing
that requires heavy algos to be created, but still (as an example) quite a
implementing it in
Cocoon. In strict chronological order: Ovidiu Predescu, Christopher
Oliver, Stephan Michels and Torsten Curdt (sorry if I missed/mispelled
anyone).
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and use it as
the result of getSitemapPath (which should therefore be renamed).
Any suggestions for a good unique identifier?
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should
be reused (resurrected?) when inside the same sitemap: in this case,
your IDGenerator would yield a different result every time, hence a new
scope. Is this what is needed? If that's the case, well, fair enough.
:-)
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a more clever solution?
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expires configuration, don't you?
:)
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codebase), I'd be -1 to a version
upgrade. Groovy in itself it's just not enough to justify cutting out
JDK 1.3. users.
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On Jun 17, 2004, at 1:13 PM, Steven Noels wrote:
On 17 Jun 2004, at 12:53, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Bottom line: unless we leverage a major JDK1.4 advantage (which AFAIK
is not the case in the current codebase), I'd be -1 to a version
upgrade.
How can we leverage what can't be adopted
On Jun 17, 2004, at 9:10 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
c) a much faster XSLT rendering because of NIO-aware XSL engines (not
that I'm aware of);
[sound of star trek theme fading in]
What's next? teleporting?
no, seriously, the only thing that NIO introduced is memory
is
risky business. I'd much rather see a bulletproof JS/Java foundation
before delving into a partially working Groovy implementation. So, this
is a sad -0 here.
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.
(which reminds me that I've been willing to investigate since a long
time the possibility to add an Avalon component that makes available
the NG kernel to the current cocoon, since this might allow to start
experimenting with the new components architecture)
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of it), I just wanted to be a bit nitpicking on
that. :)
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On Jun 1, 2004, at 10:13 AM, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
- Vadim Gritsenko
- Sylvain Wallez
- Matthew Langham
- Gianugo Rabellino
[- Bertrand Delacretaz]
Ah, and contrarily to last year, I do accept the nomination ;-)
And you get my reliefed +1 in return. :-)
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On Jun 1, 2004, at 2:37 PM, Matthew Langham wrote:
Also, the list proposed by Stefano isn't restrictive and
other PMC members can be nominated or nominate themselves.
I nominate:
Andrew Savory
Gianugo Rabellino (again, just to make sure he doesn't forget to
accept or
decline :-))
Given
I'm not subscribed to forrest (yeah, shame on me, but bandwith is
finite these days), so I thought about posting this here since it might
interest some fellow Cocooners as well:
http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/05/26/forrest.html
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something structural
about the current javaflow not being able to work. Can't find the
thread ATM, but I sure hope we can circumvent this overcoming. The
world needs continuations! :-)
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surrogates.
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worse.
So, in the end, I really don't see those huge advantages and I can
foresee lots of issues. I'm ready to change my mind, but for now I have
to -1 this proposal.
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, I'm walking around
so proudly that it seems I swallowed a broomstick. ;-) Thanks for the
trust, I hope to keep on deserving it.
- Stefano has been elected to the board.
Great news again, finally he got nailed to it. ;-) Congrats, Stefano!
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be fine, but keep in mind that such things
might happen in the future.
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On Apr 25, 2004, at 2:14 PM, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
At a certain point, though, we mangled the form *definition* and
modified a selection list so that it was taking its data from a
cocoon:/ pipeline instead than from a static file (which we used
during prototyping
Since we are working a lot with branches, and there will be even more
moving stuff around when the blocks will hit the street, I propose that
we move Cocoon to use SVN. It works very well and we will be pushed to
use it in any case in the near future.
+1
Enthousiastic +1000 here. I'm
for that, especially now,
given the sometimes hard to debug roundtrips between sitemap and flow...
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to have a set of glue components, but just as long as
contracts are solid.
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approach.
While I'm with you with actions (pure controller logic), I really have a
problem with input/output modules disappearing and with sources being
under trial. Whatever moves outside of the sitemap not pure controller
logic is dead wrong, IMO.
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not loose since we really need that.
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Guido Casper wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Rolf Kulemann wrote:
Hello,
I set up a small cocoon app which uses the Repository interface.
I'm now up to a point where would use a kind of property query in order
to receive all resources/paths matching the query.
Currently the repository does
.
IMHO, you're mixing concerns: my take is that you could use Cocoon's
repos _plus_ your favourite search layer on top of it.
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Slide
subIFs.
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fine with it as long as it's lightweight enough, but for more serious
needs I'd much rather wait for JSR170 to come out.
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sure about it
(which, mind you, might happen in a lot of cases: think about
application blocks made of sitemaps, stylesheets, flowscript and resources).
I don't want to run into Java's Serializable nightmare, though. And I
have no clue on how to avoid it.
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(if not at
proposal stage, but definately not finished) and I currently wouldn't
move too quick building further components on top of it.
+1. Let's stabilize the whole Repository concept once and for all before
starting to add layers on top of it.
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interesting.
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way to
stop me from doing that!]
Hmmm... did you take a look at bug 28176? From the stack trace you're
the one to suspect. :-)
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: CustomJXPathBinding.java
===
/*
* File CustomJXPathBinding.java
* created by mpo
* on Apr 1, 2004 | 4:17:26 PM
*
* (c) 2004 - Outerthought BVBA
*/
Er... license? :-)
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to find, but I think that avalon source
resolving cannot be used without importing all the heck of Avalon itself
and its dependencies, so how would you plan to import it in the new
environment without an almost complete rewrite?
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think it could be a
right time to be strict about code principles...
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to hacks.
Maybe a union of the two might be better?
Uh? It's in TraversableSource, a subinterface, yes, but it's there...
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Mar 2004, at 13:09, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Uh? It's in TraversableSource, a subinterface, yes, but it's there...
I still prefer something like:
if (!source.isDirectory()) throw Exception(I need a directory);
rather than
if (!(source instanceof TraversableSource)) throw Exception(I need
strategy. This is, after all, what well-behaved Apache
applications do: auth belongs to Directory or .htaccess.
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back to work. :P
By the way, I used to work with Charles Babbage...
Hey, Babbage! The guy was my grandson friend and used to play with my
abacuses...
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?
then people will need to enable those and thus be more explicitely
confronted?
That is the main purpose, yes. Could be enough as a first step.
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not the case for a helluvalot of unstable stuff as of today...
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Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 30 mars 04, à 09:45, Gianugo Rabellino a écrit :
...(though what I'd really like to see is a more clean separation of
stable/unstable blocks, possibly with a clear directory hierarchy
(src/blocks/stable, src/blocks/unstable), a default commented out
, having those blocks excluded by default might
boost us to take the unstable tag out. Right now there is little or no
practical advantage, but just add some and you'll see us lazy butts
start to work. :-)
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Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino dijo:
Marc Portier wrote:
(though what I'd really like to see is a more clean separation of
stable/unstable blocks, possibly with a clear directory hierarchy
(src/blocks/stable, src/blocks/unstable), a default commented out
-1 on dir structure, cvs
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FYI:
http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=Cocoon
Gosh. Action + XSP in march 2004. :-(
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that goes
later on into Xalan jar? Hopefully we will never forget it!
Well, at a very least everything is under the ASL and in sync now...
wouldn't Gump be able to spot the problem if we miss a cycle?
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: getstatic 7 [InstructionContext]
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that we
are use jakarta-regex twice?!
I agree. We must make a xalan without bcel and jakarta-regex. It can also
be a source of problems too.
Well, *they* (the Xalan guys) should, not we.
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BCEL usage impact remote debugging? Is
it possible to use a standard debugger with your modified classes?
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it to be null.
Making my test case implement Composable didn't achieve anything.
Therefore, how do I go about getting hold of one?
Did you correctly configured the yourclassname.xtest file?
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that Joe User *has* to read to compile such
stuff and some more warning around...
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that a syndication format is able to comfortably
include every possible repository issue that a blog has (think
comments). But I'm open to be proven wrong.
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and they will (possibly) have a clue on the generic
environment, but just don't ask them to understand dynamic loading
through proxies, it just isn't their cup of tea. See my point?
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this doesn't make sense and might just bring
overcomplications.
Pier, did I summarize well what we've been up to?
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Ralph Goers wrote:
I'm also interested in Cocoon management and monitoring. But rather than
using the Excalibur instrumentation I would like to suggest that JMX MBeans
be used instead, since that is really what the management tools want these
days.
Big +1, JMX is indeed the way today.
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
So, please cast your votes - and please, now flame wars about Avalon
this time. Thanks.
+1 to ECM.
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Reinhard Pötz wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Yup, problem is that you can't generate a form definition this way,
since the woody.js call expects a pipeline (as in new
Form(something)), and doesn't accept a bizData object. Too bad.
IIRC Sylvain added support for the bizdata object
don't think that
my situation was that much unusual...
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could be useful
even outside Cocoon, as a generic way to script JXPath/Jexl. Would it
make sense to factor the language in a generic POJO/Component with
JXTG being just a glue?
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, problem is that you can't generate a form definition this way,
since the woody.js call expects a pipeline (as in new
Form(something)), and doesn't accept a bizData object. Too bad.
(note to self: refrain from posting if you'll be unable to follow up for
the next few days...)
Ciao,
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Gianugo
: all I get is an empty evaluation that carries a
firghtening nothing using Jexl syntax, and a non-existent path using
JXPath's. I feel I'm doing something *horribly* wrong, but ATM I'm out
of ideas. Any suggestions?
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Orixo
overwhelming, there are too many dependencies to
account for and you end up with a very proprietary and not reusable
code. But in any case, I think that states shouldn't give a damn about
other states: transactions might need that.
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Guido Casper wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
For one, this might buy usage of some well-established worflow
description languages, such as XPDL or BPEL: this would mean, in turn,
being able to use existing tools to manage the workflow configuration.
This is a very important point IMO: workflow
, that might be bad for the core avalon part.
Let me know which way you think will fit in the best way for cocoon'ers
and I can start on that in April.
Cool. Will look forward to it, while documenting myself on the whole JMX
stuff.
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and management purposes only). I
think that Cocoon deployments could benefit quite a bit from being
properly instrumented.
Opinions?
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and
that we _should_ plan JMX support for 2.2, even if that requires some
refactoring. I have the feeling that a complex application like Cocoon
really could use some management tools.
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like a
quite different beast to manage. Do you have any experience on that?
Ciao,
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Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
(Blogging at: http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)
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