Re: Slack channel access
Sure thing Wendy, welcome! On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:59 PM Wendy Edwards wrote: > Could I also be added to the Metron slack channel? > > Thanks, > Wendy > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:37 PM Yerex, Tom wrote: > > > Good afternoon, > > > > > > > > Please add me to the Metron Slack Channel. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > >
Re: Slack channel access
I received the invite and I am signed up. Thank you Michael. -- Tom Yerex Cybersecurity Analyst Phone 604 822 6531 Privacy Matters @ UBC On 2019-03-28, 3:19 PM, "Michael Miklavcic" wrote: Hi Tom, check your inbox for the invite. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:37 PM Yerex, Tom wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > Please add me to the Metron Slack Channel. > > > > Thank you. > > > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Slack channel access
Hi Tom, check your inbox for the invite. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:37 PM Yerex, Tom wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > Please add me to the Metron Slack Channel. > > > > Thank you. > > >
Re: Slack channel access
Could I also be added to the Metron slack channel? Thanks, Wendy On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:37 PM Yerex, Tom wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > Please add me to the Metron Slack Channel. > > > > Thank you. > > >
Slack channel access
Good afternoon, Please add me to the Metron Slack Channel. Thank you. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
ect to have Slack for more dev related discussions >> rather >>>> than >>>>> user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used >>> for >>>>> the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible >> by >>>>> other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the >>> other >>>>> Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related >>>>> discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see >> the >>>>> mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people >>>> thought >>>>> Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active >>>>> anymore! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ali >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by >>>>> ponymail >>>>>> and the major search engines. >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being >>>>> indexed >>>>>>> by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine >> and >>>>>>> uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < >>> ottobackwa...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the >>> ASF >>>>>> slack >>>>>>>> that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is >>>>>>> searchable >>>>>>>> past 10,000 messages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( >>>>>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think >>>>> there's >>>>>>>> something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also >>> easier >>>>> to >>>>>>> link >>>>>>>> to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do >> searches... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How very Inception. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < >>>>>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in >>> the >>>>>>> Metron >>>>>>>>> Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This >> is >>>>> good >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions >>> where >>>>>>>> required. >>>>>>>>> From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think >>>>> there's >>>>>>>>> something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also >>>> easier >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> link >>>>>>>>> to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do >> searches. >>> As >>>>>>> such, I >>>>>>>>> would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members >> to >>>>> prefer >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> user/dev list where possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet < >>>>> justinjl...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
obackwa...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn’t be so quick to related the slack discussion with > > > perceived > > > > > > > activity on the list. > > > > > > > That is more do to the other things that are bigger issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen ( > n...@nickallen.org) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead > > just > > > > > > because > > > > > > > the mailing list is not so active anymore! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is exactly my concern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian < > > alinazem...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related > discussions > > > > > rather > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to > > be > > > > used > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be > > > accessible > > > > > by > > > > > > > > other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most > of > > > the > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user > > > related > > > > > > > > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens > to > > > see > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently > > > people > > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not > so > > > > active > > > > > > > > anymore! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Ali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella < > > ceste...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s > > searchable > > > > by > > > > > > > > ponymail > > > > > > > > > and the major search engines. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen < > n...@nickallen.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is > it > > > > being > > > > > > > > indexed > > > > > > > > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search > > > engine > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < > > > > > > ottobackwa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi > > slack, > > > > the > > > > > > ASF > > > > > > > > > slack > > > > > > > > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free > one > > > and > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > searchable > > > > > > > > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > > > > > &g
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
e risk of keeping user > related > > > > > > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to > see > > > the > > > > > > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently > people > > > > > thought > > > > > > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so > > active > > > > > > anymore! > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Ali > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable > > by > > > > > > ponymail > > > > > > > and the major search engines. > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it > > being > > > > > > indexed > > > > > > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search > engine > > > and > > > > > > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < > > > > ottobackwa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, > > the > > > > ASF > > > > > > > slack > > > > > > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one > and > > is > > > > > > > > searchable > > > > > > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do > > think > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's > also > > > > easier > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > > > searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 > members > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. > > This > > > is > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive > sessions > > > > where > > > > > > > > > required. > > > > > > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do > > think > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's > > also > > > > > easier > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > > > searche
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
s that are bigger issues. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just > >>> because > >>>> the mailing list is not so active anymore! > >>>> > >>>> That is exactly my concern. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions > >> rather > >>>> than > >>>>> user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used > >>> for > >>>>> the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible > >> by > >>>>> other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the > >>> other > >>>>> Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related > >>>>> discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see > >> the > >>>>> mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people > >>>> thought > >>>>> Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active > >>>>> anymore! > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Ali > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by > >>>>> ponymail > >>>>>> and the major search engines. > >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being > >>>>> indexed > >>>>>>> by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine > >> and > >>>>>>> uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < > >>> ottobackwa...@gmail.com > >>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the > >>> ASF > >>>>>> slack > >>>>>>>> that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > >>>>>>> searchable > >>>>>>>> past 10,000 messages. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > >>>>>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > >>>>> there's > >>>>>>>> something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also > >>> easier > >>>>> to > >>>>>>> link > >>>>>>>> to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > >> searches... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How very Inception. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > >>>>>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in > >>> the > >>>>>>> Metron > >>>>>>>>> Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This > >> is > >>>>> good > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>&
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
he benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable > by > > > > > ponymail > > > > > > and the major search engines. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it > being > > > > > indexed > > > > > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine > > and > > > > > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < > > > ottobackwa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, > the > > > ASF > > > > > > slack > > > > > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and > is > > > > > > > searchable > > > > > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do > think > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also > > > easier > > > > > to > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > > searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members > in > > > the > > > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. > This > > is > > > > > good > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions > > > where > > > > > > > > required. > > > > > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do > think > > > > > there's > > > > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's > also > > > > easier > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > > searches. > > > As > > > > > > > such, I > > > > > > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members > > to > > > > > prefer > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet < > > > > > justinjl...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my > > obvious > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of > > > > Slack/irc/other > > > > > > > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want > on > > > > there, > > > > > > i
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
t; > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < > > ottobackwa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the > > ASF > > > > > slack > > > > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > > > > > searchable > > > > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > > > > there's > > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also > > easier > > > > to > > > > > > link > > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in > > the > > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This > is > > > > good > > > > > > from > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions > > where > > > > > > > required. > > > > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > > > > there's > > > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also > > > easier > > > > > to > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do > searches. > > As > > > > > > such, I > > > > > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members > to > > > > prefer > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet < > > > > justinjl...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my > obvious > > > > > follow > > > > > > up > > > > > > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of > > > Slack/irc/other > > > > > > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on > > > there, > > > > > if > > > > > > we > > > > > > > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella < > > > ceste...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, > it's > > > > > > definitely > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons > you > > > > > stated > > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). > On > > > the > > > > > > other > > > > > > > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot > of > > > > > > advantages > > > > > > > >> in > > > > > > > >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may > > satisfy > > > 1 > > > > > > user > > > > > > > >> at > > > > > > > >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying > > many > > > > > users. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more > > > > discussion > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > mailing list. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Casey > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen < > > > n...@nickallen.org > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and > > > support > > > > > > > >> questions > > > > > > > >> > on > > > > > > > >> > > the Slack Channel. > > > > > > > >> > > These are questions that previously would have been > > directed > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> User > > > > > > > >> > or > > > > > > > >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack > > > > Channel, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > >> > > conversations are not archived. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron > community. > > > > Having > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list > > > archive) > > > > > not > > > > > > > >> only > > > > > > > >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* > > > users > > > > > > > >> understand > > > > > > > >> > > how Metron is being used. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel > > we > > > > need > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> do > > > > > > > >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the > > mailing > > > > > list. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > A.Nazemian > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
Yeah, I'm also surprised by that comment about the mailing list activity. Our dev/user list discussions are by far more active than they've ever been. Just have a look at the list of DISCUSS threads that have come up in the past few months and it's clear that not only participation has increased, but diversity of topic and participant. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:08 AM Casey Stella wrote: > Not for nothing, but at least according to the last board report that I > submitted, the user@ traffic is up 100% and the dev list traffic is flat > as > compared to last quarter. That's not to say that we couldn't stand more > discussion on the lists, but a lot of the dev discussion happens on github > and JIRA and I'm happy to see an uptick in user traffic. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:05 AM Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > I wouldn’t be so quick to related the slack discussion with perceived > > activity on the list. > > That is more do to the other things that are bigger issues. > > > > > > On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote: > > > > > I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just > because > > the mailing list is not so active anymore! > > > > That is exactly my concern. > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian > wrote: > > > > > I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather > > than > > > user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used > for > > > the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by > > > other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the > other > > > Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related > > > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the > > > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people > > thought > > > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active > > > anymore! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ali > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella > wrote: > > > > > > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by > > > ponymail > > > > and the major search engines. > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being > > > indexed > > > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > > > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < > ottobackwa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the > ASF > > > > slack > > > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > > > > searchable > > > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > > > there's > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also > easier > > > to > > > > > link > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in > the > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is > > > good > > > > > from > > > > > > a > > > > > > > community perspective and he
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
quick clarification, I said "a lot of dev discussion happens on github and JIRA". I want to make sure I didn't mean to imply that larger decisions were being made outside of the appropriate place, the dev list. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:08 AM Casey Stella wrote: > Not for nothing, but at least according to the last board report that I > submitted, the user@ traffic is up 100% and the dev list traffic is flat > as compared to last quarter. That's not to say that we couldn't stand more > discussion on the lists, but a lot of the dev discussion happens on github > and JIRA and I'm happy to see an uptick in user traffic. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:05 AM Otto Fowler > wrote: > >> I wouldn’t be so quick to related the slack discussion with perceived >> activity on the list. >> That is more do to the other things that are bigger issues. >> >> >> On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote: >> >> > I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because >> the mailing list is not so active anymore! >> >> That is exactly my concern. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian wrote: >> >> > I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather >> than >> > user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used >> for >> > the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by >> > other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other >> > Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related >> > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the >> > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people >> thought >> > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active >> > anymore! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Ali >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella >> wrote: >> > >> > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by >> > ponymail >> > > and the major search engines. >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: >> > > >> > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being >> > indexed >> > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and >> > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler < >> ottobackwa...@gmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF >> > > slack >> > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is >> > > > searchable >> > > > > past 10,000 messages. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( >> > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think >> > there's >> > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also >> easier >> > to >> > > > link >> > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E >> > > > > >> > > > > How very Inception. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < >> > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in >> the >> > > > Metron >> > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is >> > good >> > > > from >> > > > > a >> > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions >> where >> > > > > required. >> > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think >> > there's >> > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
Not for nothing, but at least according to the last board report that I submitted, the user@ traffic is up 100% and the dev list traffic is flat as compared to last quarter. That's not to say that we couldn't stand more discussion on the lists, but a lot of the dev discussion happens on github and JIRA and I'm happy to see an uptick in user traffic. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:05 AM Otto Fowler wrote: > I wouldn’t be so quick to related the slack discussion with perceived > activity on the list. > That is more do to the other things that are bigger issues. > > > On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote: > > > I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because > the mailing list is not so active anymore! > > That is exactly my concern. > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian wrote: > > > I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather > than > > user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used for > > the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by > > other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other > > Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related > > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the > > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people > thought > > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active > > anymore! > > > > Cheers, > > Ali > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella wrote: > > > > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by > > ponymail > > > and the major search engines. > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being > > indexed > > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF > > > slack > > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > > > searchable > > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > > there's > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > > to > > > > link > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the > > > > Metron > > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is > > good > > > > from > > > > > a > > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > > > > > required. > > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > > there's > > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also > easier > > > to > > > > > link > > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As > > > > such, I > > > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to > > prefer > > > > the > > > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet < > > justinjl...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion t
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
I wouldn’t be so quick to related the slack discussion with perceived activity on the list. That is more do to the other things that are bigger issues. On October 24, 2018 at 07:15:30, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote: > I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active anymore! That is exactly my concern. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian wrote: > I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather than > user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used for > the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by > other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other > Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people thought > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active > anymore! > > Cheers, > Ali > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella wrote: > > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by > ponymail > > and the major search engines. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being > indexed > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler > > > wrote: > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF > > slack > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > > searchable > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > there's > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > to > > > link > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the > > > Metron > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is > good > > > from > > > > a > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > > > > required. > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > there's > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > > to > > > > link > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As > > > such, I > > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to > prefer > > > the > > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet < > justinjl...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious > > follow > > > up > > > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other > > > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, > > if > > > we > > > > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's > > > definitely > > > > >> the > > > > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you > > stated > > > > (and > > > > >> > also because not everyone has access to
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
> I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active anymore! That is exactly my concern. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 2:49 AM Ali Nazemian wrote: > I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather than > user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used for > the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by > other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other > Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related > discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the > mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people thought > Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active > anymore! > > Cheers, > Ali > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella wrote: > > > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by > ponymail > > and the major search engines. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: > > > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being > indexed > > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler > > > wrote: > > > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF > > slack > > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > > searchable > > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > there's > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > to > > > link > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the > > > Metron > > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is > good > > > from > > > > a > > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > > > > required. > > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think > there's > > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > > to > > > > link > > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As > > > such, I > > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to > prefer > > > the > > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet < > justinjl...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious > > follow > > > up > > > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other > > > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, > > if > > > we > > > > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's > > > definitely > > > > >> the > > > > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you > > stated > > > > (and > > > > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the > > > other > > > > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of > > > advantages > > > > >> in > > > > >> > terms of user sat
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather than user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used for the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active anymore! Cheers, Ali On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella wrote: > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by ponymail > and the major search engines. > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being indexed > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler > > wrote: > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF > slack > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > searchable > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to > > link > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the > > Metron > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good > > from > > > a > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > > > required. > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > to > > > link > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As > > such, I > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer > > the > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious > follow > > up > > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other > > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, > if > > we > > > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's > > definitely > > > >> the > > > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you > stated > > > (and > > > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the > > other > > > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of > > advantages > > > >> in > > > >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 > > user > > > >> at > > > >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many > users. > > > >> > > > > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion > to > > > the > > > >> > mailing list. > > > >> > > > > >> > Casey > > > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support > > > >> questions > > > >> > on > > > >> > > the Slack Channel. > > > >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to > > the > > > >> User > > > >> > or > > > >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, > > the > > > >> > > conversations are not archived. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having > > > this > > > >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) > not > > > >> only > > > >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users > > > >> understand > > > >> > > how Metron is being used. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need > > to > > > >> do > > > >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing > list. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- A.Nazemian
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Done On October 23, 2018 at 02:19:54, Mustafa Akmal (mustafa.ak...@abcdata.org) wrote: Hi, Please send me an invitation link to the slack channel aswell. Thanks! Mustafa Akmal Big Data Consultant mustafa.ak...@abcdata.org (mailto:mustafa.ak...@abcdata.org) +923365257705 (tel:+923365257705) NUST (Technology Incubation Centre), Office No. 208, H-12, Islamabad, Pakistan ( https://maps.google.com/?q=NUST%20(Technology%20Incubation%20Centre)%2C%20Office%20No.%20208%2C%20H-12%2C%20Islamabad%2C%20Pakistan) http://www.abcdata.org/ On Oct 23 2018, at 1:01 am, Michael Miklavcic wrote: > > Sent > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:00 PM vpiserc...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > Hi, > > can anyone invite to the metron slack channel? > > Thanks, > > vito piserchia > > On 10/22/18 3:31 PM, zeo...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Invite sent > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:26 AM Muhammed Irshad > > wrote: > > > > > > > Some one get me also the slack channel link ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Muhammed Irshad > > > > Q*Burst* > > > > www.qburst.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:33 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sent > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller < tibor.mel...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler < ottobackwa...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor ( ftamas.m...@gmail.com) > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > Michael, can you add me as well? > > > > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > > > > Tamas > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell < > > > > > shane.m.ard...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron > > > > Slack > > > > > > > > > channel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Vito Piserchia > > Security and Software Engineer > > > > : vito.piserchia[at]dreamlab.net > > : 4915 8835 2C18 9CAE F14F 2314 613D 51C5 106B 83EA > > : https://dreamlab.net > > : +41 31 398 66 66 > > : +41 31 398 66 69 > > - > > > > DreamLab Technologies AG > > Monbijoustrasse 36 > > 3011 Bern, Switzerland > > > > - > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail > > in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this > > e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the > > material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. > > > > -
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Hi, Please send me an invitation link to the slack channel aswell. Thanks! Mustafa Akmal Big Data Consultant mustafa.ak...@abcdata.org (mailto:mustafa.ak...@abcdata.org) +923365257705 (tel:+923365257705) NUST (Technology Incubation Centre), Office No. 208, H-12, Islamabad, Pakistan (https://maps.google.com/?q=NUST%20(Technology%20Incubation%20Centre)%2C%20Office%20No.%20208%2C%20H-12%2C%20Islamabad%2C%20Pakistan) http://www.abcdata.org/ On Oct 23 2018, at 1:01 am, Michael Miklavcic wrote: > > Sent > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:00 PM vpiserc...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > Hi, > > can anyone invite to the metron slack channel? > > Thanks, > > vito piserchia > > On 10/22/18 3:31 PM, zeo...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Invite sent > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:26 AM Muhammed Irshad > > wrote: > > > > > > > Some one get me also the slack channel link ? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Muhammed Irshad > > > > Q*Burst* > > > > www.qburst.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:33 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sent > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor > > > > > > > (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > Michael, can you add me as well? > > > > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > > > > Tamas > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell < > > > > > shane.m.ard...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron > > > > Slack > > > > > > > > > channel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Vito Piserchia > > Security and Software Engineer > > > > : vito.piserchia[at]dreamlab.net > > : 4915 8835 2C18 9CAE F14F 2314 613D 51C5 106B 83EA > > : https://dreamlab.net > > : +41 31 398 66 66 > > : +41 31 398 66 69 > > - > > > > DreamLab Technologies AG > > Monbijoustrasse 36 > > 3011 Bern, Switzerland > > > > - > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail > > in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this > > e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the > > material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. > > > > -
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by ponymail and the major search engines. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen wrote: > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being indexed > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF slack > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > searchable > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to > link > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the > Metron > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good > from > > a > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > > required. > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to > > link > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As > such, I > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer > the > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet > > > wrote: > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow > up > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if > we > > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's > definitely > > >> the > > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated > > (and > > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the > other > > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of > advantages > > >> in > > >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 > user > > >> at > > >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users. > > >> > > > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion to > > the > > >> > mailing list. > > >> > > > >> > Casey > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support > > >> questions > > >> > on > > >> > > the Slack Channel. > > >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to > the > > >> User > > >> > or > > >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, > the > > >> > > conversations are not archived. > > >> > > > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having > > this > > >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not > > >> only > > >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users > > >> understand > > >> > > how Metron is being used. > > >> > > > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need > to > > >> do > > >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being indexed by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler wrote: > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF slack > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is searchable > past 10,000 messages. > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to link > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > How very Inception. > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the Metron > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good from > a > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > required. > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to > link > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As such, I > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer the > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet > > wrote: > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow up > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if we > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella > wrote: > >> > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's definitely > >> the > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated > (and > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the other > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of advantages > >> in > >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 user > >> at > >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users. > >> > > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion to > the > >> > mailing list. > >> > > >> > Casey > >> > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen > wrote: > >> > > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support > >> questions > >> > on > >> > > the Slack Channel. > >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to the > >> User > >> > or > >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the > >> > > conversations are not archived. > >> > > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having > this > >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not > >> only > >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users > >> understand > >> > > how Metron is being used. > >> > > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to > >> do > >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF slack that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is searchable past 10,000 messages. On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to link to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E How very Inception. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the Metron > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good from a > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where required. > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to link > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As such, I > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer the > user/dev list where possible. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet > wrote: > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow up >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if we >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? >> >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella wrote: >> >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's definitely >> the >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated (and >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the other >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of advantages >> in >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 user >> at >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users. >> > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion to the >> > mailing list. >> > >> > Casey >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen wrote: >> > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support >> questions >> > on >> > > the Slack Channel. >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to the >> User >> > or >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the >> > > conversations are not archived. >> > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not >> only >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users >> understand >> > > how Metron is being used. >> > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to >> do >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. >> > > >> > >> >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Sent On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:00 PM vpiserc...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > can anyone invite to the metron slack channel? > > Thanks, > vito piserchia > On 10/22/18 3:31 PM, zeo...@gmail.com wrote: > > Invite sent > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:26 AM Muhammed Irshad > wrote: > > > >> Some one get me also the slack channel link ? > >> Thanks, > >> Muhammed Irshad > >> Q*Burst* > >> www.qburst.com > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:33 PM Michael Miklavcic < > >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Sent > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Guys, > >>>> Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Done > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> > >>>>> Michael, can you add me as well? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you in advance! > >>>>> > >>>>> Tamas > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > >>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Sent > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell < > >>> shane.m.ard...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron > >> Slack > >>>>>>> channel? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Shane > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > -- > Vito Piserchia > Security and Software Engineer > > : vito.piserchia[at]dreamlab.net > : 4915 8835 2C18 9CAE F14F 2314 613D 51C5 106B 83EA > : https://dreamlab.net > : +41 31 398 66 66 > : +41 31 398 66 69 > - > > DreamLab Technologies AG > Monbijoustrasse 36 > 3011 Bern, Switzerland > > - > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail > in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this > e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the > material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. > > - >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to link to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E How very Inception. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the Metron > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good from a > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where required. > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to link > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As such, I > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer the > user/dev list where possible. > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet > wrote: > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow up >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if we >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? >> >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella wrote: >> >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's definitely >> the >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated (and >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the other >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of advantages >> in >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 user >> at >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users. >> > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion to the >> > mailing list. >> > >> > Casey >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen wrote: >> > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support >> questions >> > on >> > > the Slack Channel. >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to the >> User >> > or >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the >> > > conversations are not archived. >> > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not >> only >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users >> understand >> > > how Metron is being used. >> > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to >> do >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. >> > > >> > >> >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Hi, can anyone invite to the metron slack channel? Thanks, vito piserchia On 10/22/18 3:31 PM, zeo...@gmail.com wrote: > Invite sent > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:26 AM Muhammed Irshad wrote: > >> Some one get me also the slack channel link ? >> Thanks, >> Muhammed Irshad >> Q*Burst* >> www.qburst.com >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:33 PM Michael Miklavcic < >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sent >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Done >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Michael, can you add me as well? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance! >>>>> >>>>> Tamas >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < >>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sent >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell < >>> shane.m.ard...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron >> Slack >>>>>>> channel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Shane >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> -- Vito Piserchia Security and Software Engineer : vito.piserchia[at]dreamlab.net : 4915 8835 2C18 9CAE F14F 2314 613D 51C5 106B 83EA : https://dreamlab.net : +41 31 398 66 66 : +41 31 398 66 69 - DreamLab Technologies AG Monbijoustrasse 36 3011 Bern, Switzerland - This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. -
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious follow up question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, if we can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella wrote: > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's definitely the > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated (and > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the other > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of advantages in > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 user at > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users. > > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion to the > mailing list. > > Casey > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen wrote: > > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support questions > on > > the Slack Channel. > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to the User > or > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the > > conversations are not archived. > > > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not only > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users understand > > how Metron is being used. > > > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to do > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's definitely the preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you stated (and also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the other hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of advantages in terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 user at the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many users. I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion to the mailing list. Casey On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen wrote: > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support questions on > the Slack Channel. > These are questions that previously would have been directed to the User or > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the > conversations are not archived. > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not only > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users understand > how Metron is being used. > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to do > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
The help given on the Channel is great. It is just much more scalable on an archived mailing list. Hence the Apache Foundation's preference for mailing lists. On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:27 PM Otto Fowler wrote: > These questions also occurred on the IRC channel. The difference is that > there are more than Jon and I answering now. > > > On October 22, 2018 at 12:18:08, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote: > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support questions on > the Slack Channel. > These are questions that previously would have been directed to the User > or > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the > conversations are not archived. > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not only > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users understand > how Metron is being used. > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to do > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list. > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
These questions also occurred on the IRC channel. The difference is that there are more than Jon and I answering now. On October 22, 2018 at 12:18:08, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote: It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support questions on the Slack Channel. These are questions that previously would have been directed to the User or Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the conversations are not archived. In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not only helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users understand how Metron is being used. Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to do something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list.
[DISCUSS] Slack Channel Use
It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support questions on the Slack Channel. These are questions that previously would have been directed to the User or Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, the conversations are not archived. In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having this persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) not only helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users understand how Metron is being used. Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need to do something to direct these conversations back to the mailing list.
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Invite sent On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:26 AM Muhammed Irshad wrote: > Some one get me also the slack channel link ? > Thanks, > Muhammed Irshad > Q*Burst* > www.qburst.com > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:33 PM Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sent > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Done > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Michael, can you add me as well? > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > > > > > Tamas > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sent > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell < > > shane.m.ard...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron > Slack > > > > > > channel? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Jon Zeolla
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Some one get me also the slack channel link ? Thanks, Muhammed Irshad Q*Burst* www.qburst.com On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:33 PM Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sent > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller > wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? > > > > Thanks, > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler > > wrote: > > > > > Done > > > > > > > > > On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Michael, can you add me as well? > > > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > > > Tamas > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Sent > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell < > shane.m.ard...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack > > > > > channel? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Sent On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Tibor Meller wrote: > Hi Guys, > Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? > > Thanks, > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > Done > > > > > > On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Michael, can you add me as well? > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > Tamas > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Sent > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack > > > > channel? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Hi Guys, Can you add me to the apache metron slack chanel? Thanks, On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM Otto Fowler wrote: > Done > > > On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Hello, > > Michael, can you add me as well? > > Thank you in advance! > > Tamas > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sent > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell > > wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack > > > channel? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Shane > > > > > >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Done On October 4, 2018 at 05:35:06, Tamás Fodor (ftamas.m...@gmail.com) wrote: Hello, Michael, can you add me as well? Thank you in advance! Tamas On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sent > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell > wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack > > channel? > > > > Regards, > > Shane > > >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Hello, Michael, can you add me as well? Thank you in advance! Tamas On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sent > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell > wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack > > channel? > > > > Regards, > > Shane > > >
Re: Invite to Slack Channel
Sent On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:17 AM Shane Ardell wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack > channel? > > Regards, > Shane >
Invite to Slack Channel
Hello everyone, Is it possible for someone to send me an invite to the Metron Slack channel? Regards, Shane
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
Invite sent. Jon On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 02:45 Ali Nazemian wrote: > Can I be invited as well? > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:37 AM Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > Done > > > > > > On August 15, 2018 at 14:22:45, Vets, Laurens (laur...@daemon.be) wrote: > > > > Could I be invited? > > > > On 15-Aug-18 09:48, Michael Miklavcic wrote: > > > + Metron user list > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:38 AM Michael Miklavcic < > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Turns out we are able to invite folks on an ad-hoc basis. See > > instructions > > >> here - > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/Community+Resources > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM Michael Miklavcic < > > >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> It's another option with different features. I imagine many people > will > > >>> use both. > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 9:14 AM Simon Elliston Ball < > > >>> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to > > IRC? > > >>>> Or > > >>>> is exclusivity the idea? > > >>>> > > >>>> On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Thanks for the instructions! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < > > >>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> The Metron community has a Slack channel available for > communication > > >>>>>> (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To join: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1. Go to slack.com. > > >>>>>> 2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" > > >>>>>> 3. Use your Apache email for your login > > >>>>>> 4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, > > >>>>> 2018) > > >>>>>> Best > > >>>>>> Mike Miklavcic > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> -- > > >>>> simon elliston ball > > >>>> @sireb > > >>>> > > > > > -- > A.Nazemian > -- Jon
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
Can I be invited as well? On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:37 AM Otto Fowler wrote: > Done > > > On August 15, 2018 at 14:22:45, Vets, Laurens (laur...@daemon.be) wrote: > > Could I be invited? > > On 15-Aug-18 09:48, Michael Miklavcic wrote: > > + Metron user list > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:38 AM Michael Miklavcic < > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Turns out we are able to invite folks on an ad-hoc basis. See > instructions > >> here - > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/Community+Resources > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM Michael Miklavcic < > >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> It's another option with different features. I imagine many people will > >>> use both. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 9:14 AM Simon Elliston Ball < > >>> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to > IRC? > >>>> Or > >>>> is exclusivity the idea? > >>>> > >>>> On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks for the instructions! > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < > >>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication > >>>>>> (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To join: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. Go to slack.com. > >>>>>> 2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" > >>>>>> 3. Use your Apache email for your login > >>>>>> 4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, > >>>>> 2018) > >>>>>> Best > >>>>>> Mike Miklavcic > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> -- > >>>> simon elliston ball > >>>> @sireb > >>>> > -- A.Nazemian
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
Done On August 15, 2018 at 14:22:45, Vets, Laurens (laur...@daemon.be) wrote: Could I be invited? On 15-Aug-18 09:48, Michael Miklavcic wrote: > + Metron user list > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:38 AM Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Turns out we are able to invite folks on an ad-hoc basis. See instructions >> here - >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/Community+Resources >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM Michael Miklavcic < >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's another option with different features. I imagine many people will >>> use both. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 9:14 AM Simon Elliston Ball < >>> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to IRC? >>>> Or >>>> is exclusivity the idea? >>>> >>>> On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the instructions! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < >>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication >>>>>> (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). >>>>>> >>>>>> To join: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Go to slack.com. >>>>>> 2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" >>>>>> 3. Use your Apache email for your login >>>>>> 4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, >>>>> 2018) >>>>>> Best >>>>>> Mike Miklavcic >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> simon elliston ball >>>> @sireb >>>>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
Could I be invited? On 15-Aug-18 09:48, Michael Miklavcic wrote: > + Metron user list > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:38 AM Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Turns out we are able to invite folks on an ad-hoc basis. See instructions >> here - >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/Community+Resources >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM Michael Miklavcic < >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's another option with different features. I imagine many people will >>> use both. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 9:14 AM Simon Elliston Ball < >>> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to IRC? >>>> Or >>>> is exclusivity the idea? >>>> >>>> On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the instructions! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < >>>>> michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication >>>>>> (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). >>>>>> >>>>>> To join: >>>>>> >>>>>>1. Go to slack.com. >>>>>>2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" >>>>>>3. Use your Apache email for your login >>>>>>4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, >>>>> 2018) >>>>>> Best >>>>>> Mike Miklavcic >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> simon elliston ball >>>> @sireb >>>>
Re: Slack Channel
Invite sent On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:57 AM Simon Elliston Ball < si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: > Hello dev team, may I please join your slack channel :) >
Re: Slack Channel
Sorry Simon, I retract the comment! I didn't realize it was possible, but it is possible to invite. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:01 PM Casey Stella wrote: > Sadly, it's the ASF slack and I believe it requires an @apache.org email > address. > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:57 PM Simon Elliston Ball < > si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: > >> Hello dev team, may I please join your slack channel :) >> >
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
+ Metron user list On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:38 AM Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > Turns out we are able to invite folks on an ad-hoc basis. See instructions > here - > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/METRON/Community+Resources > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It's another option with different features. I imagine many people will >> use both. >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 9:14 AM Simon Elliston Ball < >> si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: >> >>> Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to IRC? >>> Or >>> is exclusivity the idea? >>> >>> On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: >>> >>> > Thanks for the instructions! >>> > >>> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < >>> > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication >>> > > (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). >>> > > >>> > > To join: >>> > > >>> > >1. Go to slack.com. >>> > >2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" >>> > >3. Use your Apache email for your login >>> > >4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, >>> > 2018) >>> > > >>> > > Best >>> > > Mike Miklavcic >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> simon elliston ball >>> @sireb >>> >>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
It's another option with different features. I imagine many people will use both. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 9:14 AM Simon Elliston Ball < si...@simonellistonball.com> wrote: > Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to IRC? Or > is exclusivity the idea? > > On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: > > > Thanks for the instructions! > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication > > > (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). > > > > > > To join: > > > > > >1. Go to slack.com. > > >2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" > > >3. Use your Apache email for your login > > >4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, > > 2018) > > > > > > Best > > > Mike Miklavcic > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > simon elliston ball > @sireb >
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
Since this is committers only, would it make more sense to stick to IRC? Or is exclusivity the idea? On 15 August 2018 at 16:09, Nick Allen wrote: > Thanks for the instructions! > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication > > (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). > > > > To join: > > > >1. Go to slack.com. > >2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" > >3. Use your Apache email for your login > >4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, > 2018) > > > > Best > > Mike Miklavcic > > > -- -- simon elliston ball @sireb
Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
Thanks for the instructions! On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Michael Miklavcic < michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication > (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). > > To join: > >1. Go to slack.com. >2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" >3. Use your Apache email for your login >4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, 2018) > > Best > Mike Miklavcic >
[ANNOUNCE] - Apache Metron Slack channel
The Metron community has a Slack channel available for communication (similar to the existing IRC channel, only on Slack). To join: 1. Go to slack.com. 2. For organization/group, you'll enter "the-asf" 3. Use your Apache email for your login 4. Click "Channels" and look for #metron (Created by ottO June 15, 2018) Best Mike Miklavcic
