Re: Does internal quality matters to users?

2019-05-31 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 31. Mai 2019 14:13:30 MESZ schrieb Pedro Larroy : > I think Martin does a very good job explaining why >refactoring, >reducing developer frustration and internal improvement is a crucial >productivity multiplier which includes lower cost to ship features, >less >bugs and time spent

Re: MXNet Berlin User Group

2019-04-11 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 9. April 2019 17:56:21 MESZ schrieb Jose Luis Contreras Santos : >This is a friendly reminder that the MXNet Berlin User Group will be >held >today, starting in a few minutes at 6pm-7pm (CEST) / 9am-10am (PST). Would you mind providing a brief summary of the user group here? How many ppl

Re: Reminder: MXNet Berlin User Group

2019-04-04 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 4. April 2019 13:29:28 MESZ schrieb Chance Bair : >Again, there were no attendees. Is that a pattern, or was that just the case for the past two events? If the former, maybe we could brainstorm here what could be done to make the offer more attractive? Isabel -- This message was sent

Re: Reminder: MXNet Berlin User Group

2019-04-04 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 01:50:40PM +0200, Chance Bair wrote: > This is a friendly reminder that MXNet Berlin User Group will be held today > at 6pm-7pm (CEST) / 9am-10am (PST). More info here: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Rebrand Gluon to MXNet imperative or something MXNet.

2019-03-28 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 28. März 2019 21:53:16 MEZ schrieb Mu Li : > >The reason why we call it GluonCV instead of MXNetCV is because MXNet >is a >trademark owned by Apache, while Gluon doesn't have this issue. Who's the "we" in that sentence? If it doesn't belong to Apache, who owns the Gluon trademark? Isabel

Re: [DISCUSS] Rebrand Gluon to MXNet imperative or something MXNet.

2019-03-28 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 28. März 2019 21:53:16 MEZ schrieb Mu Li : > >The reason why we call it GluonCV instead of MXNetCV is because MXNet >is a >trademark owned by Apache, while Gluon doesn't have this issue. Who's the "we" in that sentence? If it doesn't belong to Apache, who owns the Gluon trademark? Isabel

Re: Weekly Berlin User Group

2019-03-27 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 09:47:07AM +0100, Chance Bair wrote: > Unfortunately, we did not have any attendance at the user group yesterday. Oh, that's sad :/ > Since the my team handles the CI system, usually the content is geared > towards fixing/reproducing test failures from PRs. We always

Re: Weekly Berlin User Group

2019-03-27 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 01:47:59PM +0100, Chance Bair wrote: > This is a friendly reminder that the weekly Berlin User Group will be held > today at 6pm-7pm (CEST) / 9am-10am (PST). More info here: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Rebrand Gluon to MXNet imperative or something MXNet.

2019-03-23 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 23. März 2019 02:28:54 MEZ schrieb Tianqi Chen : >> Today there is a big initiative to publicize MXNet. > > >It would be great such initiative can be(and should be) brought to >dev@.. +1 also this could have the side effect of others watching stepping up and helping. On a related note,

Re: [DISCUSS] Rebrand Gluon to MXNet imperative or something MXNet.

2019-03-23 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
I'm a bit confused. Can you point me to the source files that make up Gluon? Are they part of Apache MxNet? Isabel Am 23. März 2019 00:01:56 MEZ schrieb Pedro Larroy : >Hi dev@ > >We heard feedback from users that the Gluon name is confusing. Some of >them don't even know it's MXNet and it's

Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building

2019-03-18 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 17. März 2019 22:15:15 MEZ schrieb Lin Yuan : >Thanks for joining in the mxnet project and your very thoughtful >discussion. We do have virtual hangout/meetups. Please refer to >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Meetups+and+Hangouts Would it help to have summaries of its

Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building

2019-03-07 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:03:57PM -0800, Steffen Rochel wrote: > I agree with Tianqi on "One approach toward building a more diverse > community is to acknowledge the fact that we want to encourage interactions > in the Apache way beyond our physical cycle." However, I disagree with his >

Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building

2019-03-06 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 6. März 2019 18:36:36 MEZ schrieb Aaron Markham : >Having more creatives in the open source community, not just MXNet, >would >be great for diversity. .oO(And something that would be appreciated even at the foundation level...) Is there anything else that people can think of where help

Re: Call for Ideas and Approaches to Community Building

2019-03-06 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 2. März 2019 15:13:23 MEZ schrieb Carin Meier : >I wanted to kickoff a discussion about community building. There was an >excellent blog post from the Apache Beam Community on this >https://blogs.apache.org/comdev/entry/an-approach-to-community-building Needless to say I really love that

Re: Embedded World 2019 Robotics Demo

2019-02-28 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, First of all thank you for the summary, that sounds awesome. Would be great to hear more stories like this shared here - for the stories that can be shared. Am 28. Februar 2019 08:03:38 MEZ schrieb Thomas DELTEIL : >To answer your question Isabel, this project was a joint cooperation

Re: Embedded World 2019 Robotics Demo

2019-02-27 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, Sounds interesting. Can you share more on what you are showing and what role mxnet plays? Also, who's that "we" behind "our booth"? Have fun in Nürnberg, Isabel Am 27. Februar 2019 11:38:57 MEZ schrieb Anton Chernov : >Dear MXNet Community, > >If you happens to be at the Embedded World

Re: Proposal for a recurrent architecture meeting and long term direction

2019-01-19 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 19. Januar 2019 16:35:58 MEZ schrieb Pedro Larroy : > We talked with Timur about graphcore accelerators, and >seems other people also missed the meeting Meetings like this always should be optional, what's more important: It must be possible to follow the project from subscribing to its

Re: Questions about MXNet Incubation

2019-01-18 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 18. Januar 2019 16:38:14 MEZ schrieb Carin Meier : >Thanks Bob and Isabel for the feedback and answers :) > >Isabel, I took your suggestion and started a thread on dev@community : >

Re: Proposal for a recurrent architecture meeting and long term direction

2019-01-17 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 08:03:42PM +0100, Pedro Larroy wrote: > If you wish to join the monthly architecture meeting today, please > join the hangout below: > > https://hangouts.google.com/call/ZXXqJ0ZL5m_dcHOVIeTcAEEE Likely I've missed the mail - can you point me to the summary of the above

Re: Questions about MXNet Incubation

2019-01-16 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 17. Januar 2019 00:26:04 MEZ schrieb Bob Paulin : >> *What are the benefits of graduation for the project and our end >users?* >This is one of those: "It's more about the Journey than the end >destination."  Projects that complete incubation have demonstrated that >they meet a certain bar. 

Re: [Discussion] Separating PMC and Committership

2018-10-11 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On 2018/10/10 09:04:30, kellen sunderland wrote: > When it comes to responsibilities one high-level suggestion I'd make is > that core members retain decision making abilities for the 'big' decisions > where experience is required. Written from the PMC point of view: Every individual member

Re: [Discussion] Separating PMC and Committership

2018-10-10 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 10. Oktober 2018 16:16:47 MESZ schrieb sandeep krishnamurthy : >However, like others suggested, success of this whole effort will be >based >on defining clear responsibility of PMC, committers and path for the >community to be part of committers and PMC. PMC member and chair are ASF

Re: [Discussion] Separating PMC and Committership

2018-10-10 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 10. Oktober 2018 11:04:30 MESZ schrieb kellen sunderland : > My >impression is there's a high degree of knowledge and experience >required to >make strategic design decisions on the project. This statement indicates a certain understanding of what a PMC actually does. As a first step,

Re: [Discussion] Separating PMC and Committership

2018-10-09 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 10. Oktober 2018 04:31:49 MESZ schrieb Chris Olivier : >is it convenient to define the difference and the rights and privileges >of >each? write access, private list, voting and veto power, etc? +1 - also, likely it would make sense to also list the responsibilities of each. Isabel --

Re: Maturity Model and Graduation

2018-09-28 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On 28/09/18 11:27, kellen sunderland wrote: I'd love to see some more sustained contribution from other open source communities to help us out in this area That's not exactly the model I have seen to work. What I have seen works really well at other projects is pulling users in as

Re: MXNet wins Infoworld award for best open source software for machine learning!

2018-09-27 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 08:32:53AM -0400, Steffen Rochel wrote: > Congratulation to all contributors to the project, well deserved! > https://www.infoworld.com/article/3308398/machine-learning/the-best-open-source-software-for-machine-learning.html#slide9 > > > Let's consider the recognition as

Re: Help with understanding docs

2018-08-14 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 02:39:22PM -0700, Mu Li wrote: > > Going through the hosted subdomains that seems not quite correct (or the > > content hosted is not entirely correct): > > > > "Welcome to the MxNet discussion forum." Is what I get as a greeting > > navigating to discuss.mxnet.io Am I

Re: Help with understanding docs

2018-08-08 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 8. August 2018 21:34:47 MESZ schrieb Tianqi Chen : >As far as I understand, these are packages that are build on top of >gluon >and runs on MXNet, Going through the hosted subdomains that seems not quite correct (or the content hosted is not entirely correct): "Welcome to the MxNet

Re: Help with understanding docs

2018-08-08 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 8. August 2018 21:17:44 MESZ schrieb Mu Li : >MXNet's website is http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/. I own mxnet.io, >which was mxnet's main site before, but now we are using its subdomains >to >host various packages in the mxnet ecosystem. I'm still confused: There's what looks like

Help with understanding docs

2018-08-08 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, I had a bit of time recently to walk through some of the getting started docs. First time setup of mxnet is really well described and worked seamlessly. Next step was going through some getting started examples - the straight dope docs linked from the mxnet setup page were useful for that.

Re: MXNet Berlin Office Hours

2018-08-03 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 2. August 2018 20:33:44 MESZ schrieb Ivan Serdyuk : >I have a single global question: I am looking for a global plan for >covering MXNet, for developer meetups. Can you elaborate what you mean by global plan for covering mxnet for developer meetups? > There are various APIs, for

Re: MXNet virtual hangout 2018-August-1 8am and 5pm PDT

2018-08-03 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 03:29:48PM -0700, Steffen Rochel wrote: > I would like to thank all attendees, especially Ming Zhang for the deep > dive in the challenges he is facing. > Please see hangout notes at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Aug+1st.+2018+-+5pm+PDT+session Thanks

Re: Separate repo for MXNet infrastructure

2018-08-01 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 1. August 2018 09:36:24 MESZ schrieb Yuelin Zhang : >My concern is where should my code be finally merged. This bot is not a >part of MXNet framework but it serves MXNet community. For now, a good >option is to have a separate repo for infrastructure. As this would be something that serves

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On 18/07/18 23:30, Mu Li wrote: A minor suggestion: rename MXNet SDK to AWS MXNet SDK or Amazon MXNet SDK. What exactly is the Amazon MXNet SDK? What is the AWS MXNet SDK? Your suggestion triggered my question because: https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#products Isabel

Re: About Becoming a Committer

2018-06-13 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
As an aside: if you want to learn more on the background of Apache, or free and open source in general join us at Http://fossbackstage.de in Berlin in walking distance from U2 stop Eberswalder Str. -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

Re: About Becoming a Committer

2018-06-13 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, I would like to share some inspiration: https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/success-at-apache-jfdi-the I do believe in pulling people in quickly, in giving them responsibility early, on rewarding contributions in a timely manner. Apache was born out of a collaboration of people

Re: ICLA?

2018-06-05 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, I'm not Hen, but: https://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html#icla-required-before-account-creation https://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html#cla Everyone who has an Apache.org address, that is every committer, has to sign this. The documents are tracked centrally in

Re: Module maintainers proposal

2018-01-16 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, Am 16. Januar 2018 01:40:48 MEZ schrieb Steffen Rochel : ># Anybody can add themselves or a team as additional contributors ># to get notified about changes in a specific package. ># See https://help.github.com/articles/about-teams how to setup teams. > >Hope we

Re: Module maintainers proposal

2018-01-14 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 15. Januar 2018 04:59:19 MEZ schrieb Chris Olivier : >+1 for the line: # Anybody can add themselves +1 to this line, maybe add that the project intends to use to codeowner function as a notification mechanism. This can be very handy also for new committers trying to

Re: Module maintainers proposal

2018-01-09 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 9. Januar 2018 18:25:50 MEZ schrieb Mu Li : >We should encourage to contract a specific contributor for issues and >PRs. My head translates "encourage to contact specific contributor" into "encourage to contact specific contributors inbox". This translated version is

Re: Module maintainers proposal

2018-01-09 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Another two side notes: Even if there are maintainers, if for instance there's a security issue in module X the entire PMC will be held accountable for fixing it. So for instance the maintainer being offline is no excuse for not taking care of it. "That's not my issue" is not a valid answer.

Re: Note on when to Delete GitHub Comments

2017-12-04 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 4. Dezember 2017 01:08:37 MEZ schrieb Hen : >Basically a reminder that it should be a PMC decision, or if needing to >move quickly a decision of the PMC Chair (mentors while a podling). Remember that for provenance reasons all communication on github is mirrored on Apache

Re: AWS contributing ONNX-MXNet

2017-11-17 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 16. November 2017 23:04:05 MEZ schrieb "Lupesko, Hagay" : >Today AWS announced contributing ONNX-MXNet, Just for clarification: this package is going to be/ intended to be contributed where to? Or do you mean "published under a free and open source license"? Isabel --

Meet senior Apache ppl next Monday in Berlin

2017-11-16 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, Just a quick heads-up: we'll have several senior Apache ppl in Berlin on November 20th for http://fossbackstage.de The location is two UBahn stops east of the Amazon offices. The event is free as in free beer. While I will pick up printed batches in an hour you can still sign up and show

Re: MXNet website redesign

2017-09-13 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, First of all, great to read there are people with interest and time to update the website. Am 12. September 2017 19:00:21 MESZ schrieb Seb Kiureghian : >The pPMC would like to update the website. This wording is worrying to me. It sounds like a decision was made out of

Re: Formalize Committer Proposal and Application Procedure

2017-08-11 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:31:23PM -0700, Bhavin Thaker wrote: > The criteria should look not only at Quantity but at the Quality of work as > well. Just as one additional data point: http://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html is the Apache Community Development Project's guidelines. For

Re: Formalize Committer Proposal and Application Procedure

2017-08-04 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 12:27:16PM +0100, Chiyuan Zhang wrote: > Suppose we lower the standard or completely remove the formal standard for > committers, then we could probably be able to get more committers from the > first type. But that might not necessarily be good to us Can you elaborate

MXNet project web page

2017-08-04 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, I'm currently in the process of creating a slide deck and wanted to use the mxnet logo as part of that presentation. So I want ahead and opened http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org I found a directory listing including a test directory. Is that expected? Clicking on the "test" directory

Re: Formalize Committer Proposal and Application Procedure

2017-08-04 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 12:42:12AM -0700, Henri Yandell wrote: > I worry that it creates a high barrier to entry. +1 from my side to that worry. Isabel