Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/7/2016 8:29 AM, Marcus wrote: ... I don't want to have it perfect. And we are already in this emergency situation. We have either a patch process nor a full-release process. We don't have what I consider to be the full emergency, a live exploit in the field. Why not both strategies? Go a

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/7/2016 8:29 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 08/06/2016 12:57 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: ... I don't agree with the car analogy - bits are relatively cheap, and I will personally promise to recycle any obsoleted bits that are returned to us, without taking up any landfill space. I would n

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/7/2016 10:16 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 08/07/2016 06:14 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: ... but meanwhile work on getting competent at preparing a full release promptly if needed. Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid is to provide hundreads of MBs for a

Re: [VOTE] Release apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 Source

2016-08-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 Because of whitespace differences from the patch I had previously tests, I applied the patch to a clean 4.1.2 checkout, built from scratch, and tested the result. I have checked the signature and hashes. The signature file shows the web-of-trust issues previously discussed. On 8/2/2016

Re: branches/gbuild-reintegration merged

2016-08-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/7/2016 2:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi branches/gbuild-reintegration has been merged to trunk. It has > 136 patches and makes many changes throughout the code, so you probably need to "dmake clean" before rebuilding. I haven't fixed

Special project for newcomers

2016-08-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
There is a current project for which newcomers to the OpenOffice team may be able to make a particularly valuable contribution. The objective is to find out whether a set of instructions are usable and work. For this, being unfamiliar with the background is an advantage. To participate, you need

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote: Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid is to provide hundreads of MBs for a single fix. Of course we can do a 4.1.3 with some collected fixes. As I

Re: [PACKAGING 4.1.2-patch1 Binaries] (was RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows)

2016-08-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/9/2016 8:29 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... [orcmid] I think requiring Java is a deal breaker, especially on Windows where it is not installed by default. If we required Java for AOO, that would be different, but we don't do that and we don't do anything to automate the user having the r

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/9/2016 8:52 AM, Kay sch...@apache.org wrote: On 08/08/2016 09:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 8/8/2016 11:14 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 08/08/2016 07:28 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/08/2016 Marcus wrote: Maybe we are not that far aways from each other. What I want to to avoid is

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/9/2016 2:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: How do we go about getting trained as release manager? By making a release, or two. If we only do two or three releases a year, we will only be able to train release managers are a rate of about two a year. Is that fast

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/9/2016 3:12 PM, Marcus wrote: ... we have a documented release process here [1]. Of course it's for a full release. But for a bugfix (or emergency) release it can be derived and then shortend. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Planning+Template That is the d

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/11/2016 10:45 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 08/10/2016 12:25 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: On 8/9/2016 3:12 PM, Marcus wrote: ... we have a documented release process here [1]. Of course it's for a full release. But for a bugfix (or emergency) release it can be derived and then shortend

Re: [PACKAGING 4.1.2-patch1 Binaries] (was RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows)

2016-08-12 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/12/2016 12:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... [Anecdotal Side Note: I just discovered that the MD5 hash for the 4.1.2 Windows .exe fails to check on my Windows system because of a defect in the .md5 file. For reasons unknown, the md5sum tool that I have requires exactly two spaces between

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-12 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/12/2016 1:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:07 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Planning for emergency releases [ ... ] Meanwhile, it is interesting for contemplating a

Attention: Courtney

2016-08-12 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Courtney, I tried to reply directly to your email three days ago. Please check whether a message from me got caught in a spam filter etc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: Planning for emergency releases

2016-08-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/12/2016 2:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] ... Personally, I would like to treat the last stable release as the base for emergency fixes. I started out suggesting using the current patch as an exercise to work

FOSDEM hacking

2016-08-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Maybe simplifying the Windows build process for AOO could be a FOSDEM hacking challenge? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: Release Manager for 4.2.0?

2016-08-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/19/2016 10:41 AM, Kay sch...@apache.org wrote: On 01/28/2016 04:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: As I wrote a few day ago, in theory it would be good to release OpenOffice 4.2.0 in February. If it happens a bit later it wouldn't be a big issue, but I believe that, in the constant balance be

configure error

2016-08-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I did an "svn update". Now configure is failing: * * * Setting up the build environment variables.* *

Re: configure error

2016-08-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/19/2016 12:51 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 19 Aug, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I did an "svn update". Now configure is failing: * * * Setting up

Re: configure error

2016-08-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/19/2016 2:57 PM, Don Lewis wrote: ... Hmn, I see that the error that you are seeing is coming from set_soenv and not configure. Did you rerun autoconf to regenerate configure after the update? ... A very good question. Reminder-to-self: Use the step-by-step instructions rather than relyi

Debug and gbuild

2016-08-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am getting back into OpenOffice debug under Visual Studio. Last time I tried that, I needed to manually build the gbuild modules to get symbol generation. Has that been automated? If so, what configure and/or build flags should I be using? If not, any ideas on how to get it automated?

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

2016-08-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/23/2016 12:14 PM, Kay sch...@apache.org wrote: ... 2. Update Java requirement from Java 1.5 to *at least* Java 1.7 I am rather adamant that we change our building requirement to Java 1.7 for all platforms. I will be changing that in our Building Guide today. Java 1.5 went out of support b

Re: Attention: Courtney

2016-08-26 Thread Patricia Shanahan
but I think all of this is too advanced for me. I want to help but. I just still got lost trying to understand the emails everyone was sending. Patricia Shanahan wrote: Courtney, I tried to reply directly to your email three days ago. Please check whether a message from me got caught in a

Re: Putting Windows First ( was RE: null)

2016-08-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/31/2016 10:25 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Putting Windows First ( was RE: null) [ ... ] [orcmid] I would like to suggest a way of

Re: Putting Windows First ( was RE: null)

2016-08-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/31/2016 10:25 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Putting Windows First ( was RE: null) [ ... ] [orcmid] I would like to suggest a way of

Re: compiler warnings when building OpenOffice

2016-09-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I need a problem to work on. Would you like me to take a particular compiler warning and try to sort it out? On 9/1/2016 3:29 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 29 Aug, Don Lewis wrote: When building OpenOffice trunk revsion r1758161 as a FreeBSD port on FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT with clang 3.8.0, I get the f

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 5:52 AM, RA Stehmann wrote: Am 02.09.2016 um 14:14 schrieb Jim Jagielski: What is obvious is that the AOO project cannot support, at the present time, being an end-user focused effort. I would suggest we focus on not being one, but instead being a framework or library that can be c

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 7:59 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: OK, counter-point to the other thread... let's talk specifically about what needs to happen next, given that some (plenty|most|all|???) of us want this project to continue moving forward. What has to happen next? What is the most important thing/things

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I looked at some of those services a few weeks ago. For the ones I found, the relatively inexpensive options did not have the capability of building software, let alone the capacity for build a substantial body of software. The options with the capability and capacity would cost more than a Mac Mi

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 10:09 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I looked at some of those services a few weeks ago. For the ones I found, the relatively inexpensive options did not have the capability of building software, let alone the capacity for build a substantial body of software. The options with the

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
under a VM on another OS do they? Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I looked at some of those services a few weeks ago. For the ones I found, the relatively inexpensive options did not have the capability of buildin

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 10:21 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Looking at it the other way round, for under $500 I could have a Mac Mini with 500 GB hard disk and Mac OS Yosemite delivered on Sunday. That is less than 10 months of macincloud. Is

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
at 1:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 9/2/2016 10:21 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Looking at it the other way round, for under $500 I could have a Mac Mini with 500 GB hard disk and Mac OS Yosemite delivered on Sunday. That is less than 10

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 10:18 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 09:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve? On 9/2/2016 7:59 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 11:30 AM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On September 2, 2016 10:59:55 AM Phillip Rhodes wrote: OK, counter-point to the other thread... let's talk specifically about what needs to happen next, given that some (plenty|most|all|???) of us want this project to continue moving forward. What has

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/2/2016 10:37 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 9/2/2016 10:18 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 09:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Do we understand the reason for the old version of OSX etc.? On 9/2/2016 3:48 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: The issue, currently, is that the Mac OS X build requires, last I checked, an extremely old version of OSX, Xcode, et.al. No one has such a beast laying around. I have tried creating a VMware

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks. Any views on whether the archive should be private or public? Alternative volunteer for moderator? On 9/2/2016 3:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: If you can send me a pointer to documentation on the correct moderator tools, I can also do that. How soon can we get

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have requested creation of the mailing list, with Andrea and myself as moderators. On 9/2/2016 3:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: If you can send me a pointer to documentation on the correct moderator tools, I can also do that. How soon can we get the list started

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Welcome aboard, Ed. More comments interleaved. On 9/2/2016 11:44 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: Welcome to the project, Ed. Don't sweat the lack of C++ experience. Not everything is in C++, and you can pick up the C++ knowledge as you go. I'm in a little bit of the same boat, as I *was* a C++ pro

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
- Original Message ---- From: Patricia Shanahan To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:51:18 -0700 Thanks. Any views on whether the archive should be private or public? Alternative volunteer for moderator? On 9/2/2016 3:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote:

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/3/2016 2:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... The latter option (not going) of course does not require anything, but I'd still prefer to get an "I'm not coming" note especially from Europe-based PMC members. ... I would prefer to see at least one PMC member attend, and give a talk. If a grou

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/3/2016 2:07 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 09/03/2016 09:47 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Thanks. I've already filed the request to create the list. Once that happens I'll see about adding you to the moderators. that's the problem of time zones: You are always late when othe

Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/3/2016 7:10 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello guys; Before "the dramatic events of the last hours" I had already submitted a talk for this year's ApacheConEU (Sevilla is such a nice city to have a conference!). I understand that AOO people may feel discouraged now to attend but I don't reall

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2016-09-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 09:41, Ed Fallin wrote: > > Hi there Phillip and Patricia — > > Thanks for your e-mails. Is now the right time not to send to all? I’m > happy to avoid that but, I don’t want to be a lurker. I have requested creation of a recruitment mailing list. Once created it will

Re: compiler warnings when building OpenOffice

2016-09-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/1/2016 4:00 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 1 Sep, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I need a problem to work on. Would you like me to take a particular compiler warning and try to sort it out? Here is one: /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel2/work/aoo-4.2.0/main/solver/420/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/osl

Kay's activities

2016-09-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I think some of our troubles, including the Mac Buildbot issue, are related to not identifying and picking up activities that were being done by people who have left the project. I asked Kay for some notes on her activities - posted here with her permission: I'll do my best. Here goes -- in

Re: compiler warnings when building OpenOffice

2016-09-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/4/2016 3:45 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 9/1/2016 4:00 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 1 Sep, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I need a problem to work on. Would you like me to take a particular compiler warning and try to sort it out? Here is one: /wrkdirs/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-devel2/work

Re: New volunteer

2016-09-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Welcome aboard! The first step is to build AOO on at least one computer. For windows, I found the step-by-step guide at https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step most useful. On 9/5/2016 8:42 AM, Thomas Seeley wrote: Hello All! My name is Thomas Seeley.

Recruitment mailing list created

2016-09-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The recruitment@ mailing list has been created, accepts messages, and appears in lists.apache.org. If you are pushing the "OpenOffice needs developers" message, please add a suggestion that anyone who wants to help can subscribe to recruitm...@openoffice.apache.org by sending e-mail to recrui

Re: Heard you guys could use a hand

2016-09-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/5/2016 3:23 PM, lhicks wrote: Hi there, My name is Logan Hicks, President of Eduarmor Inc. I heard you guys were struggling with OpenOffice, and we might have a solution. We currently run a program called PANDA, which stands for platform accessibility and development acceleration, and is t

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 I'm here for the present and the future, not the past. On 9/6/2016 8:15 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: On 2016-09-02 09:02 (-0400), Jorg Schmidt wrote: never we forget how members of OpenOffice (for example, Rob Weir) were insulted by TDF representatives. It's important, in all of this convers

Re: Development Donate

2016-09-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/6/2016 10:43 AM, Burhan Karahasan wrote: I want to donate your project. I want to join OpenOffice Development Team. I am an amateur programmer but i can help. - In addition to dev@openoffice.apache.org we now have recruit

apt-cyg

2016-09-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
apt-cyg is a bash script that provides, within cygwin, similar capabilities to the Linux apt-get. The Windows step-by-step recommends using it to add some packages. One of our new volunteers has found that wget http://apt-cyg.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/apt-cyg no longer works. Does anyone know

Re: apt-cyg

2016-09-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/6/2016 2:58 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 6 Sep, Patricia Shanahan wrote: apt-cyg is a bash script that provides, within cygwin, similar capabilities to the Linux apt-get. The Windows step-by-step recommends using it to add some packages. One of our new volunteers has found that wget http

Re: apt-cyg

2016-09-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/6/2016 3:17 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 6 Sep, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 9/6/2016 2:58 PM, Don Lewis wrote: On 6 Sep, Patricia Shanahan wrote: apt-cyg is a bash script that provides, within cygwin, similar capabilities to the Linux apt-get. The Windows step-by-step recommends using it

Re: Fwd: New volunteer

2016-09-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
googlecode.com, which no longer exists. Please read the email below for further details. Do you know of a replacement website for googlecode.com ? Thomas Seeley -- Forwarded message -- From: Patricia Shanahan Date: Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:10 PM Subject: Re: New volunteer To: Thomas Seeley

Re: ways to help

2016-09-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
With home servers, IT support experience, and a range of Windows experience, would it be a good idea to ask Bryan to work on checking out Bugzilla reports? The objective with Bugzilla is to examine raw user bug reports. Some are really LibreOffice reports, some are duplicates, many have insuff

Release manager for 4.1.3

2016-09-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am volunteering to serve as release manager for 4.1.3. I may go on to be RM for 4.2, but we can see about that later. My objective is to complete 4.1.3 in November. If I succeed there will be no problem. However, the project should be aware that I have a vacation booked in England mid-Decemb

Re: Releasing OpenOffice 4.1.3 (reopening the AOO410 branch)

2016-09-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/8/2016 6:04 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Recent events make it clear we will have to release OpenOffice 4.1.3 sooner or later, with some duplication of work with respect to 4.1.2-patch1 but with more clarity for those who couldn't see that

Re: [4.1.3 Release] Bugzilla admin tasks

2016-09-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/8/2016 12:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi *, as part of the preparation for the 4.1.3 Release, Bugzilla has now: - 4.1.3 target milestone, to be set on bugs targeted to this release - 4.1.3 release blocker flag, request this flag on bugs you consider that should be included in th

Re: [4.1.3 Release] Bugzilla admin tasks

2016-09-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/8/2016 1:02 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Patricia, On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 12:38:50PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote: @Patricia: do you have a bugzilla account? https://bz.apache.org/ooo/ You should be added to the relman group, so that you can grant/deny the release blocker

Question about binary upload process

2016-09-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Part of getting a release into our user's hands is uploading the binaries to both ASF and, with more practical effect, to SourceForge. Because of the number of natural languages and target operating systems, we have a lot of binaries to upload. Could someone with experience or knowledge of th

Release process and 4.1.3

2016-09-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I've looked at the Release Planning Template, https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Planning+Template It is what I would want to do for a major release with user interface changes. We also need something far, far more agile for getting simple bug fix releases out quick

Re: Question about binary upload process

2016-09-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/9/2016 3:23 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Marcus wrote: Am 09/09/2016 04:38 PM, schrieb Dave Brondsema: On 9/8/16 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: 2) Whoever is in the best position to do so, uploads the binaries to the ASF. This can be done also by multiple people, who upload to different s

Re: Release process and 4.1.3

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/9/2016 12:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Planning+Template It is what I would want to do for a major release with user interface changes. Yes, that one is the template for a 4.2.0, not for a 4.1.3

Re: Release process and 4.1.3

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/10/2016 7:02 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 9/9/2016 12:11 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Actually, 4.1.2 was exactly this. Your starting point should thus be https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.2 ; just copy the wiki page and edit/generalize

Re: Releasing OpenOffice 4.1.3 (reopening the AOO410 branch)

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/10/2016 12:55 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Recent events make it clear we will have to release OpenOffice 4.1.3 sooner or later, with some duplication of work with respect to 4.1.2-patch1 but with more clarity for those wh

Re: Releasing OpenOffice 4.1.3 (reopening the AOO410 branch)

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/10/2016 2:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 9/10/2016 12:55 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: only code with a bug and release blocker flag approved by the Release Manager can be checked in that branch; that is: if you want to include changes in the AOO413 branch: 1

Re: Releasing OpenOffice 4.1.3 (reopening the AOO410 branch)

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/10/2016 2:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Gavin McDonald wrote: Tags:- .. AOO340/ AOO341/ AOO400/

Re: Releasing OpenOffice 4.1.3 (reopening the AOO410 branch)

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/10/2016 3:10 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: I'm going to wait a few hours to see if someone claims to depend on us not changing the branch. Absent a specific issue, I plan to create a 4.1.3 branch, and expect the, not yet selected, 4.1.4 Release Manager to cre

AOO413 branch created

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have created an AOO413 branch as a copy of AOO410. It is now available for check in of "release blocker" approved changes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h.

How do all the binaries get built?

2016-09-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
What has to be done, in what sorts of environments, to generate all the binaries? Does, for example, building all the language versions for OSX have to be done on a Mac, or can one take some language files and some OSX files and combine them on a Windows machine?

Re: I want to support OO development

2016-09-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Welcome aboard! On 9/11/2016 3:40 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hello Open Office Dev Community, Dennis E. Hamilton forwarded my message to this list. Thank you for this activity. I was in the opinion that I have no time and therefore can not join the list or help. However OpenOffice devlopment is on

Re: How do all the binaries get built?

2016-09-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/11/2016 12:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote: What has to be done, in what sorts of environments, to generate all the binaries? Does, for example, building all the language versions for OSX have to be done on a Mac, or can one take some language files and some OSX

Prepare to mark 4.1.4 content?

2016-09-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Should we create the release-blocker flag for 4.1.4 now, or wait until we create the branch and have content ready for it? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...

Last call for 4.1.3 patches

2016-09-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Please make sure all patches for 4.1.3 are checked in to the AOO413 branch. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Any volunteers for 4.1.4 Release Manager? It would be better to have someone else do it: Cross-training - part of our troubles may have been due to depending on one or two people for particular roles. Distraction - I need to keep my focus on pushing 4.1.3 out as soon as possible. Schedule

Re: Last call for 4.1.3 patches

2016-09-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
ened a new blocker: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127113 On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Please make sure all patches for 4.1.3 are checked in to the AOO413 branch. - To unsubscribe, e

Re: Last call for 4.1.3 patches

2016-09-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
agielski wrote: 4.1.3 won't build on 10.11 w/o this since the Xcode provided just has the 10.11 SDX and configure doesn't see it and so the configure process dies. You have to hand edit configure to push thru. On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Should this go in 4.1.3

Re: I want to support OO development

2016-09-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/14/2016 12:23 PM, John D'Orazio wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: In the long term, work on the build system would be extremely valuable. That would make it easier to convert initial interest to long term contributions. [...] I made some ch

Re: building on Windows 10 breaks at guistdio.exe

2016-09-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I've never seen this failure before. The only suggestion I can make is to retry. That sometimes fixes failed builds. On 9/14/2016 12:39 PM, John D'Orazio wrote: ... dmake: '../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/guistdio.exe' removed. 1 module(s): desktop need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR:

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 On 9/15/2016 12:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes especially related to security. (2) quickly building release manager skills. We became overly dependent on people who are no longer with us. (3) establishing a r

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I believe we should always have a point release, based on the last fully stable and released version, ready for code check-in: Release manager identified, branch created, release-blocker flags created. That shortens the latency from identifying an urgent fix to having the fix in our users' han

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/15/2016 12:59 PM, Jorg Schmidt wrote: From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:05 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager? The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes especi

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 On 9/15/2016 8:35 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [BCC to PMC] RESOLUTION: That Marcus Lange (marcus) be recommended to the Apache Software Foundation Board to serve as Vice President for Apache OpenOffice. The Vice President for Apache OpenOffice serves in accordance with and sub

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan
This is a binding vote. On 9/15/2016 4:21 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: +1 On 9/15/2016 8:35 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [BCC to PMC] RESOLUTION: That Marcus Lange (marcus) be recommended to the Apache Software Foundation Board to serve as Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

Tools for building and checking a release candidate

2016-09-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Are there any tools to help put together an AOO release? If so, where are they? In particular, the binaries for each language for e.g. Windows will result from a build in a Windows environment. The release candidate groups the binaries by language, a transposition of the build matrix. Each b

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/18/2016 12:14 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 09/18/2016 07:45 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs: Hmm, does anyone know an artist that has some time and can draw a splash screen? I would love to see the next edition Called 4.1.3 Phoenix addition, And I would love to see a Splashscreen that shows an Phönix ca

Re: Building 4.1.3: Error while building module icu on windows

2016-09-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Do you happen to know the bugzilla issue for that? It needs 4.1.3 release blocker status. On 9/18/2016 10:02 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: This was fixed in trunk, but commit r1729921 still needs to be ported to the 4.1.3 branch. Damjan On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Oliver Brinzing wrote:

Re: building on Windows 10 breaks at guistdio.exe

2016-09-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
et/projects/ oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" --with-epm-url="http://www. msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz" --disable-pch --disable-atl --disable-activex --without-junit On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:39 PM, John D'Orazio wrote: So I've taken courage th

Re: [Release 4.1.3] Overview of issues that are relevant

2016-09-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
There are two types of issue. There is a very small set of issues that motivated 4.1.3. In addition, we are paying off technological debt due to not have routinely done point releases, mainly copying fixes for build issues from the trunk into the 4.1.3 branch. On 9/18/2016 1:21 PM, Marcus wrote:

Re: [Release 4.1.3] Overview of issues that are relevant

2016-09-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/18/2016 1:21 PM, Marcus wrote: I've created a list of all issues for the 4.1.3 release: Show all issues that include the flag "4.1.3_release_blocker" [1]. The list includes granted issues for 4.1.3 but also ones that are still open (4.1.3_release_blocker?) and not included (4.1.3_release_b

Fwd: [Issue 125147] CRASH applying styles to text

2016-09-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Recently, we have only been adding changes for 4.1.3 if they are necessary to building it. If you request 4.1.3 release blocker for a general bug fix, please discuss the reasons for putting the particular change in. Forwarded Message Subject: [Issue 125147] CRASH applying st

Re: Fwd: [Issue 125147] CRASH applying styles to text

2016-09-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
in the trunk for 1 1/2 year? But I am only a user and leave those decisions to the developers... ;-) Am 19.09.2016 um 15:10 schrieb Patricia Shanahan: Recently, we have only been adding changes for 4.1.3 if they are necessary to building it. If you request 4.1.3 release blocker for a general bug

Re: building on Windows 10 breaks at guistdio.exe

2016-09-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I had installed 64-bit Cygwin installed here before I started on compiling AOO. I hit problems, and had to go to the recommended 32-bit Cygwin. However, things have changed a bit since then, so it may be worth seeing if it works. On 9/19/2016 8:59 AM, John D'Orazio wrote: ... I also read so

Re: building on Windows 10 breaks at guistdio.exe

2016-09-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
and after changing the install path of NSIS to one without spaces, packaging also completed successfully. I have added "Windows 10" alongside "Windows 7" and "Windows 8.1" in the Step by Step guide. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I had install

Re: building on Windows 10 breaks at guistdio.exe

2016-09-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
ch packages to choose in the cygwin interface if installing them from the cygwin interface. I think installing the packages from the cygwin interface should be indicated as the first step to take when first installing cygwin, adding all the necessary packages along with the first install. The only p

Re: building on Windows 10 breaks at guistdio.exe

2016-09-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
couldn't find from the cygwin interface was the Perl LWP::UserAgent package, so I installed that using "cpan -i LWP::UserAgent". On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:25 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Congratulations! I'm about to do a Windows 10 build on a new machine, so please ma

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