On 3/07/2003 3:32 steeven wrote:
Please remove me from maillist!
Can NOT unsubscribe the list :(
Here you go (hopefully). If not, please get back to us. Being a bit
friendlier would be nice, though, since there's a good chance you've
subscribed yourself.
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? Can someone else do the update?
I'll try give it a go 'tomorrow' afternoon. Are we using Forrest CVS
HEAD now?
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rough around the edges, I think we offer
decent diversity and choice for form handling in Cocoon.
HTH,
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,
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. Binding votes about the Cocoon guidelines can be cast by
Cocoon committers only - the original members of the 'founding' PMC that
is. If that would need to be changed, it's the time to implement that,
as well.
Thanks for your attention,
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, is changing something within the Project
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them do so) that stuff will be
breaking from here until Woody stabilizes. I'm pretty sure these early
adopters will see the value of using code that is 'owned' by more than
OT-peeps only.
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On 30/07/2003 0:13 Michael Wechner wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
If it comes to (a) vote(s), anybody's opinion is appreciated, so
please speak up. Binding votes about the Cocoon guidelines can be cast
by Cocoon committers only - the original members of the 'founding' PMC
that is.
I guess
On 30/07/2003 11:25 Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release
of Apache Cocoon.
... which was again a masterly execution of the
CaRsTeN-3000-meepzoid-release-bot. Thanks!
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files in the SOURCES directory.
Thanks!
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http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=8826
Good morning, all.
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in
standalone mode then?
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SchemoVidiuChrismatron.
/interlude
Kidding aside, is my categorization more or less correct? Might be cool
to put on a slide once.
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On 31/07/2003 14:23 Steven Noels wrote:
1) 'Barbara', in kind remembrance of B. Post
2) 'Carsten, the Early Years'
3) 'SchemoVidiuChrismatron'
4) 'Species' - since Apples and Pears are way to generic already, and
it's what Darwin was all about
5) 'Rag' - since Dywel really sounds like a mop
comments are very much welcomed.
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On 1/08/2003 11:15 Reinhard Pötz wrote:
For the actual code see
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_ bug.cgi?id=21900
Marc, why don't you put Apples it into scratchpad?
Karma request is in process, he isn't listed in the avail file yet.
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On 1/08/2003 14:28 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
I can spell hierarchy too when not too drunk, it just takes more
mental resources ;-P
Is there anybody against CollectionGenerator?
Could we have that with one 'l' for alcoholics, since they tend to
draw anyhow?
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this with Cocoon?
Our own Transformer already does XPointer XML Base.
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Average successful requests for pages per day: ~4K
Data transferred: ~2.5 GB
Average data transferred per day: ~85 MB
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however to the (n)Include stuff,
it might be better to extend the standards syntax with specific
constructs available as features in Cocoon's own Include transformer,
rather than having two Include transformers side-by-side.
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one auto-translation
maintaining the same form model across media, might not be what your
users are looking for.
HTH,
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on
the FreeBSD platform. I'll make sure logging is switched to WARN or
ERROR only so that debug messages don't mess up performance.
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On 11/08/2003 14:42 Steven Noels wrote:
Hi all,
it's time to prepare our report for the ASF board meeting of August
20th. I'm looking to collect noteworthy news about our community
project, and so far these are the topics I'm planning to put in the
report. Comment add as you see fit:
fyi
.
How does other people feel about this? Most commonly, an incubating
project needs a destination PMC, so we would be involved some way anyhow.
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Read
Project
+(http://www.ironsmith.org/).
Eh?
+Portions are Copyright (c) 2001 Tivano Software GmbH
+(http://www.tivano.de). All Rights Reserved.
Eh?
+Portions are Copyright (c) 2001 Scott Robert Ladd. All rights reserved.
Eh?
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speak and will finish this before noon (Europe time).
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was on the list. I can't look into
this before tomorrow, so if anyone would check the archives and change
accordingly, that would be great.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=106010158816970w=2
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On 12/08/2003 11:24 Steven Noels wrote:
I'm CVS updating as we speak and will finish this before noon (Europe
time).
Done - please cross-check.
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On 2/08/2003 22:21 Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:16:47PM +0200, Steven Noels wrote:
I tried mapping this under the final destination URI space
cocoon.apache.org/wiki/ by adding a .htaccess directive under the
cocoon.apache.org document root on daedalus which reads
and send the release mail tomorrow.
Maybe wait until late evening so that the changed README.html and
HEADER.html are mirrored as well. My nearby mirror
(http://www.apache.org/mirrors/#be), which has a good reputation, hasn't
sync'ed the new dists yet.
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license, and that the FSF goes at
length in denying the existence of this problem.
If the Hibernate peeps change the license for their API, that's
something entirely different.
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implemented, and if so, whether one can access
the parameter by name, instead of depending on the sequence of attributes.
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Sylvain Wallez wrote:
map:call function=foo
map:parameter name=bar value=baz/
/map:call
and
function foo() {
var x = cocoon.parameters[baz];
}
Easy, no ?
Ha. ;-)
Added to the Wiki. :-)
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:-)
This release marks the transition from being a publishing-oriented
XML/XSLT server engine to a componentized XML-based web application
development framework.
Let's go, and humbly, silently, kick some ass. :-D
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Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Switch to google *immediately*! Say, http://directory.google.com/ --
that's what we were pulling from yahoo
What about http://news.google.com/news/en/us/technology.html
Should be less static.
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explicit definitions for all components
relevant to that project.
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Steven Noels wrote:
Hi all,
it's time to prepare our report for the ASF board meeting of August
20th. I'm looking to collect noteworthy news about our community
project, and so far these are the topics I'm planning to put in the
report. Comment add as you see fit:
* ramping up towards a 2.1
carries, to
open a connection to a cocoon.xconf-defined pool.
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this before getting the word out to him.
Anyway, the reverting patch is attached if you can't wait.
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Marc Portier wrote:
in terms of best practice I would probably be advocating the use of
jxtemplate in combinaion with flow rather then xsp
+1
JXTemplate is massive but works nice and dandy.
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:
- The contract for exchanging (named) parameters between sitemap,
flowscript and jxtransformer needs to be solidified (but we knew that)
- I'm slightly annoyed by the abundance of choice with JEXL and JXPath.
Wouldn't it be better to stick with only one of them?
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XML comments. When I'm debugging, I put sections of jxpage code inside a
comment. They are still executed IIUC.
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Read
what's on the [main Cocoon web site|http://cocoon.apache.org/]. Type away! Explore the publicist in You!
?+++
OK, that was interesting.
deny from 80.58.50.235
If anyone else sees obvious trolls, please tell me.
Now, go away, idiot.
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URI practices.
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of robustness, documentation and user support that the
'old stuff' already has.
Oh, and I did read the rest of your mail, and you were right about AAA,
interceptors and flow. I understand now. Thanks for your repeated
efforts in educating the clueless. ;-D
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Antonio Gallardo wrote:
P.S: I dont want to fight with nobody here and I am not trying to attack
nobody. Please take my message in the most good sense. Really we need to
work together :)
... and your relentless efforts at such are very much appreciated, Antonio!
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these contributions have been made off-list. ASF CVS is _not_ a
corporate dumping ground.
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, we're better safe than sorry.
Sorry again for the tone.
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There's a number of things going on:
- the migration of all websites from daedalus - minotaur
- subsequent change of IP addresses and DNS propagation
- apparently, the ASF is also participating with the SW Patents protest
action
I'm pretty sure infrastructure peeps are on the ball, even
Hi peeps,
my colleagues are just back from the live demonstration in front of the EU
offices. Several hundreds of people where effectively there, and while we
will never know whether such actions have any effect, I was proud to be
able to tell them that all ASF sites were participating with the
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Geoff Howard wrote:
Robert Simmons wrote:
Go vote
http://www.osdir.com/Downloads-req-ratedownload-lid-11-ttitle-Cocoon.html
Hmmm - the description is taken from the 2.0 site, and no wonder -- the
link is to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon --
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
It is .. Ive been wrong before and I admit Im no Avalon or cocoon source
code expert. Im very direct in my style and I wish people wouldnt take it
offensively. I merely abhor cheerleading. There are lots of things I love
about cocoon but the logging
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
Like I said before, I tend to be direct in my language and if I offend, I
certainly dont mean to and I appologize.
You don't seem to understand what I'm trying to explain, so pardon my
shouting: QUIT APOLOGIZING - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Except for
Roger I Martin PhD wrote:
Thanks Cocoon developers for thinking thru and working this out. It is much
appreciated.
Your patience with us, poor human beings, is even more appreciated.
Cheers!
/Steven
to it with a
type attribute leaves for more future expansion room and won't mess up
namespaces if you include direct output elements in the wi:styling/
element, IMHO.
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but a very basic stylesheet.
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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I'll have to start to play golf just to find a
use for my tonsils)
Eeeck. Spare us the details! ;-)
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:
Greetings,
Is there a manual that describes all of what each block in cocoon 2.1
does ? Perhaps I missed it.
Nope, it isn't there. Don't forget to have a look at
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/plan/index.html,
to the old smtp server.
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Reinhard Poetz wrote:
more seriously: How do we deal with bugfix releases in the future if we
don't have a branch or another repository?
Like we do with 2.0.x? It's just a matter of releasing, actually.
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
So, is this only a typo or really a bug?
typo.
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and I like to have support of bugfix
releases of 2.1 (see the security holes Sylvain fixed recently, maybe we
can release a stable Cocoon Forms, ...).
Am I (and Carsten) alone with this opinions?
Not at all. Don't forget the silent majority.
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Carsten is
pointing at.
See Sylvain's reply as well.
I'm +1 on a 2.2 module, and +1 on 2.1.1 on Friday. Fortress might be
something for 2.2 rather than 2.1.1, but I'll leave that to the people
doing the actual work to decide.
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Steven Noels wrote:
I'm +1 on a 2.2 module, and +1 on 2.1.1 on Friday. Fortress might be
something for 2.2 rather than 2.1.1, but I'll leave that to the people
^
duh: 2.1.x, of course
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
What do you think of putting the nice logo
which can be found at http://jakarta.apache.org
announcing the ApacheCon on our website as well?
Peeps on the Apachecon list have asked to wait for another week IIRC.
Otherwise: +1
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, and we are fully
committed to provide you with many bangs for your bucks.
On behalf of Orixo, I'd like to cordially invite you to participate with
this year's edition, and I really look forward to see you in Ghent on
October 7th.
Cheers,
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Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Thanks for the reply. It is comfortable. :)
^^^
Even though cocooning requires comfortable couches and plush pillows,
I'd rather say 'comforting' here, Antonio. ;-)
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with a customer, and it works rather well.
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site... maybe a partial update
of the main page is enough.
I'll send out an announcement after that.
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announcing 2.1.1 (not
retracting it, though) and go for a new target release date for 2.1.2 on
September 24th. That way, we can discuss at leisure what we are going to
do with the docs-reshuffling, and people can spend more time on testing
new stuff.
Please comment!
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version of JAI for Mac OSX.
With the latest binary release version of FOP, I have no problems at
all, so unless someone objects, I'll revert to that one.
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Read
on JDK1.4.1 without need for SVG processing though, so I cannot
easily test eventual 1.3.1 issues.
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Joerg Heinicke wrote:
Ok, with this change we should have satisfied Robert Simmons at the end.
A day worthy of remembrance.
Thanks, Peter!
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not by fear. If we manage to come up with a stable 2.1.2 release within
some weeks, I'm pretty sure our users have plenty of new, stable
releases to play with while we get our act together.
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thinking out loud...
Exactly, and also one of my concerns with Carsten's proposal. We can't
demand backwards-compatibility from block developers, and if blocks are
shared between version from inside the 2.1 workspace, this would be the
case.
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for longer
periods between burn-outs. :-D
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David Crossley wrote:
I propose Antonio Gallardo and Tony Collen to be Cocoon committers.
+1
A warm welcome to both of you.
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Jeff Turner wrote:
The Forrest team is pleased to announce the release of
Apache Forrest 0.5. The release is available at
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/xml/forrest/
Congrats, folks!
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I didn't waste too much time with this plea, and I really hope
that the GT becomes an annual tradition for us, Cocoonies.
If you have anything to say about this, please contact me, on- or off-list.
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on this matter?
(me being happy to at least being able to contribute _something_ this days)
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details that I'd love to understand all about, I'm seriously
wondering whether a block.xml will be the only difference between a 2.1
and a 2.2 block. Or am I completely misguided by my phantasy? (could
well be, I have a vivid imagination)
Help?
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Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Yeah. That's one of my qualities/defaults (depending on the context) : I
hear all opinions, make a synthesis and sometimes claim that it's my own
idea ;-)
Ha. :-)
You couldn't get away with it this time! :-D
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your posts ;-D
A ROFL from the peanut gallery. :-D
In the office, there's of course the benefit of a whiteboard and all
visual clues of body language - maybe Marc should augment his posts with
a video taping of himself. ;-)
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module, so
that they are collected at one place.
I like this: +1
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at that - dunnow if the individual page history is
available across the XMLRPC interface though.
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
With respect to the recent thread about release management, I propse
a release date of October, 1th which would include a freeze of the
cvs starting on monday, 29th.
+1 - let's do a serious freeze this time.
a) Make a 2.1.2 release on October, 1th
+1
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a CLI bug, since the output directory
seems to be passed nicely into the CLI invocation build.xml section.
Can anyone confirm this?
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what I've been doing so far. If you change project.site-dir
to '.', the output gets written alongside the source documents. Logical,
but weird.
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Read my
., but I'm afraid some of
them are a bit aged, and would warrant some public review and discussion
before being applied during the freeze period. Something we'll all have
to decide at our own discretion.)
Let's try and make this a decent freeze period.
Thanks,
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strange setup is causing the mail to not go out,
3) The cvs list is lagged
Nope, we just had to moderate your first commits through, and have you
put on the -allow list for future commits.
Should be OK now.
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,
which will reduce the transportation problem considerably. But he will
put stuff up on the Wiki to inform those who attend.
Cheers,
/Steven
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/Steven
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Outerthought - Open Source Java XMLAn Orixo Member
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