Is anyone going to JavaOne next week?
I won't be attending, but I am in the Bay Area (San Jose) on a contract right
now. If anyone would like to meet up in the evenings during the week, or
anytime this weekend or next, please let me know. It would be great to chat
more with whoever is around
Also, this introduces a bug: a hard-coded dependence on the default
delegator. The delegator name for this should always comes from the
webapp, which is configured in the web.xml file.
-David
Scott Gray wrote:
What bug?
On 1/10/2011, at 8:25 AM, jler...@apache.org wrote:
Author:
The first production-ready/stable release of Moqui Framework (version
1.0.0) is now available through SourceForge:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/moqui/files/
There is a download there that includes a preview of the Mantle project.
Mantle is basically a data model and service library. The
Adrian,
It sounds like you're starting to get the point of the run-time
inheritable permission approach that I was trying to introduce into the
project a while back. The general idea being the permission inheritance
is based on screens/services/etc calling other artifacts, ie you keep
track of a
What might be helpful for this is the allow, deny, always-allow pattern.
Normally you'd just give users an inheritable allow permission, but if
the code called/used anything with a deny permission associated with
it, the user would be denied in spite of the inheritable allow permission.
For
I think the Moqui Framework is already to a point where migration of
OFBiz business-level artifacts could begin immediately.
Doing a migration like this would bring up other issues... including
whether or not to clean up the data model and services while at it,
especially rewriting messier parts
If you translate the entire simple-method into a groovy script (perhaps
using an FTL file) and then compile/cache/run that groovy script you can
avoid these overhead problems... and also trim the size of the code to
execute simple-methods by a LOT (ie all those Java objects per
simple-method
Some editors, like IntelliJ IDEA, do actually support scripts embedded
in other files. I use this quite a bit for groovy scripts embedded in
XML... but it doesn't work so well for groovy expressions because it
only works when you define object types for variables and such.
-David
Adrian Crum
(but important): is Moqui using (or there are plans to use) jars
or external tools whose license would prevent us from bundling Moqui in an
OFBiz release under the ASL 2.0? This would be a show stopper...
Jacopo
On Mar 15, 2012, at 6:08 AM, David E Jones wrote:
This might actually
NOTE: replying to this in multiple messages for better digestibility. :)
Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
Thank you David,
please see inline:
On Mar 15, 2012, at 6:08 AM, David E Jones wrote:
I think the Moqui Framework is already to a point where migration
of OFBiz business-level artifacts
Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
Doing a migration like this would bring up other issues...
including whether or not to clean up the data model and services
while at it, especially rewriting messier parts of OFBiz like the
ShoppingCart* objects and order processing stuff in general.
It will be
Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
3. running in a single webapp: while this isn't necessary with
Moqui, the Moqui Screens are a combination of the controller.xml
entries for the particular screen and the OFBiz Screen Widget, and
are hierarchical instead of being flat like the request-map URIs in
When I first saw the subject I was thinking this as well.
I always wondered why those were created as separate applications,
perhaps for permission reasons I suppose. In a way they make more sense
as part of the accounting webapp instead of in separate ones.
-David
Pierre Smits wrote:
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From: David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a topic that came up at the conference, and has come up
over time on the mailing lists.
To help answer questions about this I've written up some details
and put together a diagram which is now available on this page on
the docs site:
http
Freeman wrote:
My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
1) lowering Key strokes
2) lowering Learning Curve.
3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
NOTE: This is part
On Nov 15, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Shi Yusen wrote:
+1.
The reason is simple: nobody takes the role of project manager in
OFBiz.
When Redhat aquired JBoss, I found almost every project had a new
project manager who really helped the projects released more and more
predictable.
At the beginning
On Nov 15, 2008, at 4:27 PM, David E Jones wrote:
On Nov 15, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Shi Yusen wrote:
+1.
The reason is simple: nobody takes the role of project manager in
OFBiz.
When Redhat aquired JBoss, I found almost every project had a new
project manager who really helped the projects
On Nov 15, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:41 PM, David E Jones wrote:
On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
David E Jones wrote:
I don't mean to dilute the framework release effort. But at the
same time, it seems to me issues are coming up in R4
on this, but I
have
found that it is what most programming efforts miss.
David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:
This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
searching for [Open Business UI] (ie with quotes) on google and it
found no results, and without quotes
2008/11/13 David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually as we get OFBiz ready to run for OFBiz we'll have it
hosted on ASF
infra. The OFBiz resources that are not hosted on ASF infra are
actually an
issue right now that needs to be resolved at some point (ie
confluence,
nightly builds, demo site
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-796:
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It might good if Hans did this, but I'd say
should have it working
as a CMS
in a live site where we all have access and with contents that will
then be
moved into the Apache server.
Is this possible?
-Bruno
2008/11/13 David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually as we get OFBiz ready to run for OFBiz we'll have it
hosted on ASF
infra
integrated and into OFBiz officially, as it's the only
interface I've seen on top of OFBiz that would be possible to
replace something like Confluence.
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
On Nov 16, 2008, at 6:45 AM, David E Jones wrote
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David E. Jones reassigned OFBIZ-1999:
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Assignee: David E. Jones
A portal/portlet implementation
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1999:
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I apologize for the delay on this Bruno. I
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On Nov 16, 2008, at 7:07 AM, David E Jones wrote:
I'm sorry to be contradictory, but I don't think this statement is
true: the ASF is not ready to host all of these things - nightly
builds, demo sites, documentation management, etc
The ASF infra certainly IS ready
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-796:
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When I mentioned others getting involved
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1999:
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Just an FYI, I'm working on this now... so
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1999:
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The bulk of this is now in SVN, rev 718185
enterprise software. You won't see
the same issue with commercial open source like SugarCRM or Compiere
or OpenBravo or the like, because they develop using a commercial
model, and not an open source model.
-David
On Nov 17, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Markus Studer wrote:
David E Jones wrote
On Nov 17, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Joe Eckard wrote:
On Nov 15, 2008, at 4:37 PM, David E Jones wrote:
(disclaimer: one guy's opinion, grain of salt, etc.)
Speaking primarily as an end user, the never release approach
that the project is currently taking encourages me to isolate my
code
On Nov 17, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Shi Yusen wrote:
在 2008-11-17一的 12:06 -0500，Joe Eckard写道：
Speaking to Shi Yusen's comment about a project / release manager, I
don't think it would be fair to push this onto any one person when
the
individual committers have all of the information available
On Nov 18, 2008, at 3:34 AM, Markus Studer wrote:
This document has been around for a while, but pretty clearly
describes options available and which to take when:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Getting+Started
yes, that document was the base for our decisions.
This is
We used to include the Postgres and certain other JDBC drivers in the
trunk. There isn't a license issue (there is with MySQL, but not with
Postgres).
The issue that we ran into is that you have to have the right JDBC
driver version for the database version you are using, and if they
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1999:
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Thanks for your feedback and continued
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1999:
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Actually, there are no CrUD service
We should probably just move the admin account data (the parts that
are framework specific, ie the partyId and such should stay higher
level) to the common component or something.
In real life though, this is only useful for demonstration and
technically no admin account should ever
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1868:
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Did I say the common component? I suppose
I spoke with Tim about this and some clarification might be helpful.
What the ASF is actually looking for, based on what I heard from
people (and this seems to be consistent with what Tim heard when I
spoke with him):
1. project management (replace Jira)
2. content management (replace the
On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: framework release, icky internal dep
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:57 PM
We should probably just
On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:31 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
From: David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: framework release, icky internal dep
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 8:23 PM
On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, David E Jones
to coordinate efforts towards a common
(to all
developers) vertical end-user application.
-Bruno
2008/11/20 David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I spoke with Tim about this and some clarification might be
helpful.
What the ASF is actually looking for, based on what I heard from
people
We've actually been through all of this before. It's actually worse to
have the jdbc drivers included. The problem is that people run and
deploy with it and find weird problems if the version in ofbiz doesn't
match the database version. The result is production down time and
repeated
I'm for changing them. I'm guessing (and it's just a guess... please complain if this affects you!) that there aren't
many with dependencies on this sort of label, so updating within the project should take care of nearly all, if not all,
use of these.
Also, even if we don't now, we'll want
'twould be nice for the price and promotion rules.
-David
Adam Heath wrote:
http://www.isomorphic.dreamhosters.com/?p=18
This might be useful to emulate for complex condition building.
I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a while back, but both of those services reduce the video
and audio quality SO much that the videos and things end up being somewhat less that useful.
The conference recordings might be fine there (just a less pleasant viewing
, Sven Wesley wrote:
Even now when HD-format is possible?
2008/11/24 David E. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I actually looked at hosting these on YouTube or Google Video a
while back,
but both of those services reduce the video and audio quality SO
much that
the videos and things end up being
I have a pretty big problem with this actually.
First: changes to pks should be pretty limited, and when done should
be carefully reviewed. These are a significant difficulty when
upgrading and should never be done lightly or without looking at other
alternatives.
Second: when we
These tabs independent of other (especially base) applications are
important. The general idea is that different users would have
different permissions for the tabs, so it may be common that a user
has access to AR but not to Accounting.
This thread seems to have gone in the direction of
Of course if you guy think that the channel should not be there I will
remove it.
Just let me know.
-Bruno
2008/11/24 David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just peeked around to see about this and it looks like the highest
resolution possible is 480x360.
Is there any way to do more than that? That would
On Nov 24, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
Hi,
I think it will be good to have a spot on Ofbiz site that acts as
catalog of application available for deployment on ofbiz. There are
various custom applications that people write that can be shared
(they will like to) with community.
Why at the bottom?
Are you saying that we should change the pattern of business apps at
the top and technical/etc apps at the bottom?
-David
On Nov 25, 2008, at 4:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Anil, you could put it at the bottom in the meantime
Jacques
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in Cruise Control.
Let's talk more about this next week at the conference.
Brett
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:34 PM, David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Erwan,
It would be great to have some tests that go through the user
interface,
but we don't have tools for this yet that fit
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2037:
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I hate to say it, because I can see
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2020:
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This patch must not be committed
All OFBiz Committers,
This is kind of a reminder, but more of a request: please do not
commit or even consider committing a contributed patch (ie through
Jira) that you do not fully understand or that changes parts of OFBiz
that you do not fully understand. If you really want to work on
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2037:
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Discussion without details just doesn't do
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2037:
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I gave specifics, and it seems the only way
On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
I would like to work on cleaning up the screen widget Java code.
Here are some of my ideas:
1. The screen widget model classes are trying to be too many things.
As a result, they contain some messy and scary code. I'd like to see
the model
On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
--- On Wed, 11/26/08, David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you have any specific bits of messy code in mind? I
don't mean to imply that I don't believe this might
help, but how does moving the code from one class to another
clean up
Which revision or version of OFBiz are you using?
-David
On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:36 AM, guo weizhan wrote:
Do you guys use the FindServices? It's seems there is the problem in
createCondition method when using the IN operator, the
EntityCondition.makeCondition need a collection as the value
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2066:
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On a semantic note... would this really
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2066:
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I see. Thanks for taking care of this Adrian
Why do a remove and then create instead of a store/update? Did that
not work for some reason?
-David
On Dec 2, 2008, at 9:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: hansbak
Date: Tue Dec 2 20:23:30 2008
New Revision: 722753
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=722753view=rev
Log:
remove
Has anyone noticed that the requirement setting on the store is
ignored, but if set on the product then it works (for the PRODRQM_ATP
at least)?
I just setup the store on demo.hotwaxmedia.com to have this setting
and nothing happens. After setting the one on the Requirement Method
Enum
One option for this (or at least part of it), and one that I think has
been discussed before, would be to introduce a convention for naming
permissions (or more to the point, ID-ing permissions) based on
screen names and locations. A few aspects of this:
1. We could configure specific
Is there an AL2 version of the interfaces for javax.el around?
Geronimo has a lot of these implemented, but for something like this
another project may be better, perhaps even the Commons EL project. I
know you mentioned Commons EL is based on an older version, but
perhaps they have some
I just took a peek and it appears that jar files that are CDDL 1.0
licensed are allowed:
http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html
-David
On Dec 7, 2008, at 12:22 AM, David E Jones wrote:
Is there an AL2 version of the interfaces for javax.el around?
Geronimo has a lot
This looks pretty cool. The ${bsh: stuff may need to be pre-filtered.
Also, I noticed that a pre-parse or cache plugin feature is supported,
and for something like this it would make a big difference.
-David
On Dec 4, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
I'm considering integrating JUEL
What kind of search? If you mean a product search there is already a
model to persist search parameters and a summary of results. See the
ProductSearch* entities (if I remember right).
-David
On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Anil Patel wrote:
Hi,
Ability to save search (criteria) is
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-2037:
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My suggestion, and request, was to discuss
I'm just reviewing some things, some of which I haven't looked at for
a while.
One that I find has some design and implementation issues is the
invoice overview page in accounting:
https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/accounting/control/invoiceOverview?invoiceId=CI2
So, I have some complaints:
On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:49 AM, Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
Inline
On Dec 9, 2008, at 5:44 AM, David E Jones wrote:
I'm just reviewing some things, some of which I haven't looked at
for a while.
One that I find has some design and implementation issues is the
invoice overview page in accounting
permission should be checked to render the menu
item that
takes to
that screen (sub-screen).
Is this what you mean?
This could be done even without the getAllPermissions
service
proposed, am
I right?
-Bruno
2008/12/3 David E Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One option for this (or at least part
not struck to it being
roles. This was thought to be a generally useful feature others
might be
interested in hence we are trying to make it compatible for the
community.
Ray
David E Jones wrote:
Instead of attaching this to a Party RoleType, it would be better to
attach
for
implementation
to fit in with OFBiz practices then fine, I'm not struck to it being
roles. This was thought to be a generally useful feature others
might be
interested in hence we are trying to make it compatible for the
community.
Ray
David E Jones wrote:
Instead of attaching
Why not keep it super-simple at just add a field to the
SecurityGroupPermission entity with the limit of times per time period
that a user in that group can access that permission. Then in the low-
level permission checking code keep a count...
That would probably total less than 100
How do you plan to support the Entity Engine (through GenericEntity)
feature of implicitly localized fields (currently used for StatusItem,
Enumeration, various others)?
What FlexibleMapAccessor is doing with LocalizedMap is seeing if the
Map passed to it implements the interface, and if
localized fields just fine. I
will continue to look into it though. Thanks for the reply!
-Adrian
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
wrote:
From: David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
Subject: Re: LocalizedMap.java - Do we really need it?
To: dev
a utility class to hide the complexity
of the underlying data model, which among other things supports
localization?
-David
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
wrote:
From: David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
Subject: Re: LocalizedMap.java - Do we really
On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Brett Palmer wrote:
*Proposed Solutions*
1.
Create a custom ant target (e.g. install-selenium-xml) that
downloads the
selenium-server.jar from a non-Apache hosted website (e.g.
SourceForge). For
example, the Apache Velocity project does this with
Instead of deprecating, and hiding the warning about deprecation, you
can just change the constructor to protected or private. In the slim
chance that anyone outside of the main OFBiz code base is using it
they'll get a compiler error and it will be easy to make the change to
fix it.
Looks very cool Adrian.
-David
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:50 PM, adri...@apache.org wrote:
Author: adrianc
Date: Sat Dec 13 21:50:29 2008
New Revision: 726377
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=726377view=rev
Log:
A smattering of Unified Expression Language conversions in mini
language
On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
wrote:
From: David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
Subject: Re: LocalizedMap.java - Do we really need it?
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:50 PM
To reproduce, from latest OFBiz revision and fresh database with it:
1. in ecommerce (or Order Manager) place a sales order for 10
(anything more than 5) of product GZ-2644; this will cause an
inventory reservation against a bulk facility location, therefore
needing a stock move before
Somehow the reminders I usually get for the board report didn't
arrive, and I forgot about it until this morning, so
If anyone is around feedback would be appreciated. I'll be submitting
the report in a few minutes.
. Surrounding all
of the type casts with try-catch blocks would be a worthwhile
endeavor, but it is also a lot of work.
Anyways, I've made the change to most of the classes and can commit
them, but there are chances this exception might pop up elsewhere.
What do you think?
-Adrian
David E
:
The code already expects the possibility that the object doesn't
exist and creates a new one if it's missing. The try-catch block
just treats an invalid object type as a missing object and then
everything runs the same as always.
-Adrian
David E Jones wrote:
How exactly would that fix
are being suppressed
instead of being thrown as exceptions... or at least logged?
-David
On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:14 PM, David E Jones wrote:
But in this case it's not missing... there is actually a Map member
(that is a List object) with the key GZ-2644 and the simple-method
code is try
when we
know there is a failure the better.
-David
On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:24 PM, David E Jones wrote:
Also, is there any way to have UEL complain more? In this case what
does it do when it sees the reference to
orderItemShipGrpInvResAndItemLocation.GZ? Does it create a List
object
David E Jones wrote:
But in this case it's not missing... there is actually a Map member
(that is a List object) with the key GZ-2644 and the simple-
method code is try to access it, so we can't just treat it as
missing when it comes back as the wrong type...
In this case, and in many cases where
: Expected some type,
got some other type...
-Adrian
David E Jones wrote:
See my other message... it looks like there may be no way around
changing existing code (and we'll have to use quotes AND square
braces together for it, it appears anyway).
However, whatever we do we can't hide errors
IFF you can find a fix in the Java code. Because of the way UEL
interprets things I don't think that will be possible.
Like I explained IGNORING the error doesn't make it go away, it just
causes a bigger problem by hiding the problem. If there is a general
way to actually handle this, ie
Not that I know of, just the ant target to copy the dtd/xsd files
(copy-dtds).
-David
On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi,
Have we a tool to verify synchronisation between all xsd in svn and
site/dtds ?
Thanks
That is actually why the failure return was introduced. It is
distinguished from error in that it does not cause a transaction
rollback.
-David
On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Bob Morley wrote:
In the runSync method on the ServiceDispatcher it looks like the
finally
block will only
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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-1952:
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Looks good to me.
delegator.removeByAnd
That's a funny one, since the syntax used was not supported before UEL
was introduced, and I mean the original line without your change
Jacques. In other words this attribute would not work without UEL:
value=${productCalculatedInfo.totalQuantityOrdered +
parameters.quantity}
I guess
somebody would have the need for rational
quantities.
Do you want I put BigDecimal instead ?
Jacques
From: David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
That's a funny one, since the syntax used was not supported before
UEL was introduced, and I mean the original line without your
change Jacques
guess At this stage BigDecimal or Double is the same (it will be
sql-type=FLOAT8 anyway)
Jacques
From: David E Jones david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com
If that is the case then there must have been a different error
message than the one quoted in the first message by Akash:
DATABASE TYPE error
There are many things based on the webSiteId. The easiest way to get
an intro to them is to look at the WebSite entity. In ecommerce the
productStoreId (the default store for the web site) is an important
value, but there are others as well.
-David
On Dec 17, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Harsha
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