Re: Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
So, that was pretty good response; only one reply here, but several names were added to the wiki page. There seem to be enough people interested to begin moving forward. I can't think of a better place for discussion than this list, so I'll just go ahead: Could someone volunteer to co-chair

Re: Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-28 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SO == Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com writes: SO I believe you forgot to set whenisgood to use timezones :-) My understanding is that you have to log in in order to set your timezone, or that choosing a timezone was something the responder had to do. When I created the form, Use

Re: PokerTH orphaned

2011-08-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
HdG == Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com writes: HdG Hi,HHdG Tomas has chosen to fix this problem by simply disabling the HdG openssl compat part of gnutls (which as the above bug shows is HdG broken by design) given that only 3 apps use this, this seems like HdG a sane choice to me. Except, of

Re: [Fwd: Broken dependencies: vym]

2011-08-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
IA == Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com writes: IA The perl_default_filter macro changed with perl 5.14. We're now IA using rpm's native __requires_exclude macro (and friends) instead of IA the slightly hacky filter_setup stuff. Really? Is there documentation for how this is supposed to work now?

Re: Package Review Bug#730815

2011-08-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NO == Nathan Owe ndowen...@gmail.com writes: NO Should I let the submitter know that it is this old or should it be NO closed or the age of the upstream source ignored, in which I am NO guessing the later is not the case. Well, I could certainly ask the submitter if they're aware that the code

Re: Package Review Bug#730815

2011-08-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NO == Nathan Owe ndowen...@gmail.com writes: NO Yep old code does tend to work, but also this also means that NO security or runtime bugs that are around won't be fixed either, NO atleast upstream. Right, which is why I wrote that you should ask the submitter if they are willing to take on the

Re: [Fwd: Broken dependencies: vym]

2011-08-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
IA == Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com writes: IA The only documentation I'm aware of is the same draft you're working IA on. Ah, OK. For some reason I interpreted what I read to say that the Perl filtering macros had been rewritten to make use of the new filtering system. I'm still hoping

Re: rpmlint complains about BSD with attribution

2011-09-19 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SB == Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com writes: SB I'd want to notify that rmplint warns about BSD with SB attribution, Please file a bug against rpmlint. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Package review SIG dead?

2011-10-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RS == Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com writes: RS After some initial interest there doesn't appear to be any activity RS unless I'm missing something. Never could gather enough interest for anyone to actually do anything. Basically I stopped after I called for a couple of folks to help me with

Re: Why does git merge have so much trouble with Fedora package branches?

2011-11-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: JK I don't believe you can delete a branch remotely, I think releng has JK to do it on the server. Yes, you could still ask releng to delete a JK branch, then you could re-create it with the same name and have the JK same net effect, however we

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JBG == Jóhann B Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com writes: JBG How does FPC handle packagers that violate the packaging JBG guidelines? FPC is not tasked with enforcing the packaging guidelines. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
VO == Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com writes: VO It would be reasonable, on the beginning of each development cycle, VO to publish a list of packages which were not touched by it VO maintainer in previous release. I certainly hope you realize that there are very many packages in the

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TH == Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu writes: TH As somebody who is in exactly that situation all I can say is that TH if doing informal reviews is an essential prerequisite to getting TH sponsored then the wiki could be a lot clearer. Currently it reads TH more like it's just one thing that may

Re: Getting Sponsored

2011-11-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RS == Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com writes: RS Perhaps this has been discussed before I'm RS not aware of it but do we really need to hold up a package because RS the submitter needs a sponsor? Yes, definitely. RS Does this make sense? Yes, it makes a lot of sense. We need to set some

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RS == Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com writes: RS How does someone who needs to be sponsored make sure that their RS informal reviews get noticed? Not everyone will 'toot their own RS horn' so to speak. That doesn't mean they are not a good prospect as RS a packager. Well, the documentation

Re: grub2 and setting crashkernel kernel argument

2011-11-28 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RR == Roman Rakus rra...@redhat.com writes: RR How are fedora with grub2 users supposed to set up crashkernel RR kernel argument? Or even any argument? One possibility is /etc/default/grub. This contains GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. After changing that, grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. You can

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] orphaned packages in F-14

2010-08-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MS == Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com writes: MS More than a dozen Red Hat people with commit access, but access MS was denied to one other Red Hat employee. Why? You'll find that for some odd reason xiphmont has commit set to Denied on several packages. I've never understood why it ended

Re: Fedora 14 branching and dist-git roll out

2010-08-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes: RWMJ Is there any essential difference between 'fedpkg push' and plain RWMJ 'git push'? def push(self): Push changes to the main repository cmd = ['git', 'push'] _run_command(cmd) return So looks like no.

Re: Reminder: Bugzilla UPGRADE to 3.6 on August 13th 9:00 p.m.EDT [01:00 UTC]

2010-08-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JP == John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com writes: JP Also *PLEASE* make sure any scripts or other external applications JP that rely on bugzilla.redhat.com are tested against our test server JP before the upgrade if you have not done so already (see original JP email below). Unfortunately the

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
BN == Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes: BN I can't help but note that the slips have become more frequent as we BN started to actually *have* release criteria to test against. We BN didn't slip nearly as much when we weren't testing it. To me this implies that we should begin testing

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MM == Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com writes: MM Possibly also stop changing earlier? Not necessarily. We should certainly try to get the earth shattering changes done as early as possible (i.e. soon after branch) but I recognize that there isn't sufficient developer time available to both

RemoveSETUID feature (Was: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-10-26) NEW TIME!)

2010-10-28 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JN == Joe Nall j...@nall.com writes: JN On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: More to the point, I can easily see the setuid bit easily on a binary. How do I tell if these strange/hidden capabilities are present on a binary? 'ls' doesn't mention anything. JN getcap

Re: RemoveSETUID feature

2010-11-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Yeah, it looks like the capabilities thing has broken my buildsystem: Error unpacking rpm package iputils-20101006-2.fc15.x86_64 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /bin/ping: cpio: cap_set_file failed - Operation not supported Error unpacking rpm package

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SO == Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com writes: SO Java SIG has prepared changes in current Java packaging SO guidelines. We would welcome wider discussion/comments at this SO point. From our point of view guidelines seem ready for approval by SO FPC. Could we get a diff of these

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SO == Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com writes: SO Java SIG has prepared changes in current Java packaging SO guidelines. It's terribly rude to crosspost to a list which simply rejects messages from non-subscribers. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SO == Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com writes: SO Recently? I haven't heard of Java-specific guideline changes for SO past few months. Care to enlighten me? https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/13 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-October/000699.html - J

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RC == Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes: RC In other words, as far as I am concerned, abrt has reduced RC efficiency of bug-hunting by flooding maintainers with low quality, RC often unusable reports and risen the communication churn related to RC BZs. It's been discussed many times and

Re: request for intel driver update in rawhide

2010-11-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RK == Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com writes: RK Hello, I wanted to point out that about a month and a half ago intel RK released a new driver version 2.13.0. Could we please have an update RK in rawhide? Currently rawhide seems to be at 2.13.901, a development version past the one you are

Re: request for intel driver update in rawhide

2010-11-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RK == Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com writes: RK http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7794 RK guess you pulled that somewhere else. fedpkg co xorg-x11-drv-intel; less xorg-x11-drv-intel/*spec - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: debugging build hang in koji ?

2010-11-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
A few folks have sufficient access to log into the builders and strace things if necessary. You're welcome to ping me on IRC. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 17 'tig' package update change

2012-10-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
LZ == Lukas Zapletal lzap+...@redhat.com writes: LZ Hello, I have noticed that latest tig update in Fedora 17 changed LZ it's behavior. tig has not ever been updated in F17; it still has the same 0.18-2 release that was there when F17 was spun. - J -- devel mailing list

Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
It would have been super nice to actually include a link in all of those bugs, or some reference. I mean, they must have been filed by program, so it's not as if you would have had to do a bunch of extra typing. We really need a mass bug filing howto or something. Preferably starting with

Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RC == Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com writes: RC Have you notice than all this bugs depend on #871373 which provides RC some useful information ? The useful information was not in the ticket. Which means it wasn't in the email. Which means I had to get over to a web browser, wait for

Re: Using generally useful macros

2010-03-13 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NU == Nikolay Ulyanitsky lys...@lystor.org.ua writes: NU Some maintainers use them, some do not. I guess people who really like extra typing, wrist pain or spec files which are difficult to read would use them. NU What is recommended way? It's up to you, but something like %{__cp} is

Re: F13 install timings

2010-03-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
OP == Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com writes: OP The install spends a long time displaying Checking dependencies in OP packages selected for installation with no movement of the progress OP bar. My kickstart installs used to sit showing that for ages; I ended up using pungi -G to gather an

Re: Need a sponsor for beakerlib

2010-04-13 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JL == James Laska jla...@redhat.com writes: JL Greetings folks, Is anyone interested in sponsoring a new package JL used in several upcoming AutoQA test cases? We don't sponsor packages, we sponsor packagers. Has the packager in question done any other review work? Submitted other packages

Re: Need a sponsor for beakerlib

2010-04-13 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AW == Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com writes: AW I think it was just a thinko for 'review'. In which case, why would a sponsor be required at all? James is in the packager group, so he could just do the review. According to the ticket in question, a sponsor for the packager is required

Re: Need a sponsor for beakerlib

2010-04-13 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JL == James Laska jla...@redhat.com writes: JL I take it from your response that you're not interested in reviewing JL and sponsoring this package review request? Again, we don't sponsor packages or package review requests. We sponsor packagers. Packagers need to demonstrate various things

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TK == Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes: TK Querying bugzilla is a comparatively expensive process so it's TK probably something we need to do by syncing the count of bugs into TK the db via a cron job. Any takers? I could probably whip something up. - J -- devel mailing list

Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
IG == Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com writes: IG Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for IG Fedora 14 and possibly posted as an update? :) IG Would be wonderful! Would be more wonderful to wait until the upstream development has actually finished before cramming it into

Re: Milmeister Mass-Orphaning Request

2010-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes: RWMJ I will take ocaml* and unison*. I have orphaned them; feel free to take ownership. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bastion02.fedoraproject.org listed in sorbs.net DNSBL - can we get some better spam filtering so I don't end up blocking feodora's emails?

2010-11-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MF == Mike Fedyk mfe...@mikefedyk.com writes: MF Hopefully some better spam filtering can be implemented so that MF fedora's mail servers don't end up in spam block lists anymore. Spam filtering will never prevent every spam from getting through. The host forwards lots of mail; people are

Re: Milmeister Mass-Orphaning Request

2010-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PP == Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com writes: PP I can take: pl, yap. They should be orphaned in pkgdb; you'll need to log in and take ownership. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Howto: Create a new package and retiring a package

2010-11-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SD == Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: SD So what/where are the steps I need to take to retire nfs-utils-lib SD and create a new libnfsidmap package... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life And I think you're probably pretty familiar with the process of

Re: Appeal to finish the change in maintainer for the openjpeg package.

2010-11-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AH == Adam Hough adam.ho...@gmail.com writes: AH Someone with that right permissions need to change who maintains the AH openjpeg package in Fedora. It has two comaintainers, so I don't really see what the issue is. I went ahead and gave those comaintainers approveacls permission on the Fedora

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MP == Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com writes: MP How can I get information about all packages that provides init MP scripts? repoquery --whatprovides '/etc/init.d/*' - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.9 alpha

2010-11-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PM == Panu Matilainen pmati...@laiskiainen.org writes: PM In particular, I'm interested in feedback on the new, pluggable and PM enhanced dependency extration system. Documentation is scarce at the PM moment but some background and examples can be found here: PM http://laiskiainen.org/blog/?p=35

Re: Unresponsive maintainer for libical

2010-12-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com writes: MC Could you give me a link to the proper PackageDB MC page, please? Personally I just go to http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/packagname and click the Package Info link. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora default services

2010-12-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MP == Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com writes: MP Dear FPC people, could you provide this list in the near future? We haven't even met since it was decided that we were to do this. I imagine it would take a couple of meetings to bang out a list. - J -- devel mailing list

Re: Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

2010-12-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PR == Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com writes: PR My understanding was that if it was blocked it had to go through PR review again. Depends on how long: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers Re-review required for older packages If a package was last

Re: Retired package by mistake - undo?

2010-12-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GD == Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com writes: GD Hello all, While the click-frenzy required to take ownership over GD spring and its sub packages I mistakably retired spring-maps-default GD / devel and spring-install / devel. I tried to unretire them both, GD but failed. You've found one of the

Re: Retired package by mistake - undo?

2010-12-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
OK, I found spring-installer and unretired it as well. You should log into pkgdb and claim both packages as they're currently orphaned. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Proposal to improve the Sponsorship process on Fedora

2011-01-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JS == Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de writes: JS because I have read, that new contributors should not applies JS membership on the packagers group and the sponsor should invites JS them to this group, Well, nobody can apply to the packager group; it is invite-only. There may be a few

Re: Requesting a new scm module for a new package

2011-01-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Well, you missed yesterday morning's run and I skipped over that package in this morning's run because the ticket isn't assigned to anyone. I intend to go back over the tickets I skipped, figure out what's gone wrong with them and add comments but I have not yet found the time to do that today.

Re: Question regarding RPM packaging of interactive software.

2011-01-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JC == Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net writes: JC I can't recall at the moment where this stems from, but the JC rationale, as I recall, was that we can never be sure if the JC database is available at RPM install/upgrade time. It's pretty simple. Creating databases isn't generally something that

Re: gtk2 2.99.0

2011-01-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com writes: MC * gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0 and gtk-builder-convert-3.0 have been MC dropped (since they were identical to their un-suffixed cousins in MC the gtk2 package). If you are using gtk-update-icon-cache in %post MC of a gtk3-using package, you should

Re: Question regarding RPM packaging of interactive software.

2011-01-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
ss == susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com writes: ss Not sure where it should go inside packaging guidelines. Can anyone ss else please do that? Packaging guidelines are modified by the packaging committee and are not generally editable. You are welcome to submit a draft for

Re: Can someone please give this ticket some attention?

2011-01-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NM == Nathaniel McCallum nathan...@natemccallum.com writes: NM https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625187 This bug NM basically makes Fedora completely unusable in rawhide for NVA{3,5,8} NM users. Isn't that just https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26980 ? If so, the hardware

Re: rpm-buildroot-usage

2011-01-19 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AW == Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com writes: AW that's not the problem. rpmlint just thinks you usually shouldn't do AW anything with the build root in certain sections of spec files and AW so complains if it sees usage of any buildroot definition AW ($RPM_BUILD_ROOT or %buildroot) in those

Re: rawhide report: 20110122 changes

2011-01-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes: RWMJ I thought that was all I had to do, but apparently there's RWMJ something else needed to drop it entirely. Did you delete all of the files and add a dead.package file? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

Re: rawhide report: 20110129 changes

2011-01-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
New package: ghc-process-leksah-1.0.1.4-2.fc15 Haskell process-leksah library Is it not possible to try a little harder to write a useful package summary? Or for the package reviewer to take just a quick look and notice that a summary such as that is pretty much completely useless?

Re: package for Fedora and EPEL from one spec source?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GvE == Gerd v Egidy li...@egidy.de writes: GvE What is the best way to handle this? Can I keep one spec for both GvE and use conditionals to always build the right way? You can. Do keep in mind, however, that the amount of conditional garbage you have to pile into the spec file can get to be a

Re: package for Fedora and EPEL from one spec source?

2011-02-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com writes: MC I don't know why, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to have it in the MC repository like a normal package, IMO. Not that this will really explain anything, but: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563176 - J -- devel mailing list

Re: Packaging only a subset of a tool collection

2011-03-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TM == Till Maas opensou...@till.name writes: TM Is there any reason to only package the two tools I need and add TM others whenever someone requests it? Would someone disapprove this TM in a package review? I don't see what would require you to package every piece of functionality included in a

Re: Package SCM admin requests

2011-03-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SB == Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com writes: SB I've made yesterday a Package SCM admin request and I haven't SB received a notification yet. Well, you made your request just after I had processed the queue yesterday and chose to complain before I had processed the queue this morning. SB I'm

Re: mass rebuild of mysql packages in F-15

2011-03-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TL == Tom Lane t...@redhat.com writes: TL Do we need to wait around for somebody to fix these stragglers, or TL can we go ahead and release dist-f15-mysql into the general TL f15-testing pool? Please do not wait on zoneminder. It was broken before this due to an unrelated issue which should be

Re: File bugzilla-4.0-1.fc14.src.rpm uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2011-03-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
ES == Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr writes: ES It's a mistake. I wanted to upload the source tarball and picked the ES wrong file. Is there anything for me to undo? It is pretty much permanently in the git repository, and anyone who does a non-shallow clone of the package

Re: File bugzilla-4.0-1.fc14.src.rpm uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2011-03-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Erm, I guess I misread. I thought the file had been checked into git, rather than uploaded to the lookaside. Checking big binaries into git is a problem, uploading them to the lookaside isn't. I can remove it from the lookaside if that's really necessary, but there's really not much reason

Re: Some changes to EPEL package reviews

2011-05-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GH == Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org writes: GH How is this any different, given that process-git-requests creates a GH rawhide branch without regard to whether one asks for it or not? I'm catching up with mail after the weekend and noticed this unusually pointed bit of

Re: Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TK == Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes: TK They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid TK of them. In particular, some people like to build a package for both TK Fedora and EPEL-5. In this case, a lot of the things that are TK optional in Fedora have to remain

Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
For a while now I've wanted to get some sort of package review SIG going. The package review process hasn't really evolved much since it was instituted way back when, and now it (and the portion of the sponsorship process it overlaps) has become a major bottleneck in one of the main ways of

Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-25 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
For a while now I have been working on a proposal for some changes to both the way we elevate packagers to sponsors and what (to a small extent) sponsors actually do. Please note that this is not a proposal for any changes to how people are made members of the packager group in the first place

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-25 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
KD == Ken Dreyer ktdre...@ktdreyer.com writes: KD Looks good to me. I was unaware that sponsors are (currently) also KD provenpackagers. I've considered the idea of becoming a sponsor KD myself, but when I read the archived tickets where other people KD smarter than me have been denied, the

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MS == Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com writes: MS There are a few unfortunate sections in the first paragraph already: Except that they're all true. users have to go through an almost endless set of steps (which also needs revision, but that's another topic) MS Compared with a few years

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MS == Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com writes: MS Are we talking past eachother? :-/ I don't believe so, no. I do believe that you are reading something into my proposal that simply is not there, however. MS What if sponsors _try_ but for some time haven't found anyone who MS shows enough

Re: Proposal for revitalizing the sponsorship process for packaging

2012-04-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MR == Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de writes: MR exactly, I fully agree. I think, we should lower the barrier to MR become a sponsor, maybe dropping the necessity to become a proven MR packager first. I can't quite tell; are you aware that this is the core point of the proposal I've put

Changes to the process of becoming a packaging sponsor

2012-06-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
A while back, FESCo approved and I implemented some changes to the process of becoming a sponsor in the packager group, and I wanted to make sure that everyone is aware since the path to becoming a sponsor is shorter and simpler than ever before. The most important change is that sponsor status

Re: Support for legacy init script actions for systemd services

2012-06-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TL == Tom Lane t...@redhat.com writes: TL Did that packaging guideline get reverted already? No, it didn't, but of course you know the packaging committee cannot prevent an upstream from implementing whatever functionality they like. We can of course revisit the prohibition if someone cares to

Re: [mydns/f17] Migrate to systemd.

2012-06-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
IRP == Itamar Reis Peixoto itama...@fedoraproject.org writes: IRP Summary of changes: 73f7b54... Migrate to systemd. (*) I'm sure you already know this, but just in case, please note that migrating to systemd within a release is forbidden. You really shouldn't even be committing any kind of

Re: Review Swaps for sugar activities

2012-07-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DC == Dan Callaghan dcall...@redhat.com writes: DC I will take all three (they look straightforward :-) in exchange for DC saslwrapper: Since you appear to be familiar with sugar, is there any possibility that you (or anyone else who is familiar with sugar stuff) could cast a glance at

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 18

2012-07-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PU == Patrick Uiterwijk puiterw...@gmail.com writes: PU Hello, Would it be a possibility for me to pick up one of the PU orphaned packages, without being sponsored into the packager group PU yet? The answer is of course no, but he's now been sponsored and is free to take ownership of some of

Re: Doesn’t LDD break no-content rule?

2012-08-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes: MC Isn't it breaking MC https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Code_Vs_Content MC ? Maybe you should tell us why you believe it is. I don't see how it violates any of the rules for content. - J -- devel mailing list

Re: Doesn’t LDD break no-content rule?

2012-08-11 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes: MC (sorry, once more, this time to the correct address) And now a public reply MC I thought that the rule is that Fedora packages shouldn't contain MC just a pure content. That is incorrect, pretty obviously if you think about it. I mean, how is

Re: No f18 in bodhi

2012-08-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RC == Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes: RC Hi, f18 seems to be missing in bodhi. RC I.e., ATM, it seems impossible to push packages to f18. Until today, f18 is like rawhide; you build and it goes in at the next compose. After the switch is made, f18 acts like f17. That should happen

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes: RWMJ I just received about a dozen bugs like this: Yep, someone has taken it upon themselves to mass-file a bunch of unnecessary tickets. When FPC makes guidelines changes, they aren't generally accompanied by some mandate that existing

Re: Mate-Desktop

2012-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Ri == Rave it chat-to...@raveit.de writes: Ri For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project Ri for f18 because for me it is imposssible to to work together with Ri Dan Mashal. One of the reason for my decision is this last talk with Ri Dan Mashal today. I've watched a

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
GH == Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org writes: GH I am pleased that I got a bug report and not an involuntary patch, GH as it gives me a chance to take care of special cases and schedule GH things appropriately. I would much have preferred to receive an announcement about what should

Re: New Anaconda and Mouse Buttons

2012-09-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JF == John Florian john.flor...@dart.biz writes: JF Now, if the mouse pointer could also reverse upon detecting the JF apparent handedness of the user, well that would be one of the JF coolest UI tricks ever. I certainly hope not; I'm left handed and would never dream of switching the mouse

Re: Emacs package guidelines introduce unnecessary deps

2012-09-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com writes: MC The guidelines now force any package that has Emacs add-ons to MC install them in the main package and Requires: MC emacs-filesystem. Emacs is not installed by default and I do not use MC Emacs, nor will I ever. emacs-filesystem consists of

Re: 'newpackager' is not in FAS, or How to co-maintain a package before getting sponsored

2012-09-28 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
RL == Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org writes: RL Hi, all I want to follow the route [1] to bring up a new RL packager. Then why not follow the procedure you referenced? It tells you what to do, which involves opening a ticket in the appropriate trac instance. - J -- devel mailing list

Re: Rawhide tree structure

2012-01-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net writes: MC Did my eyes deceive me, or do the packages now get separated and put MC in their respected dir of their first letter, and not located in one MC dir now? Yes. MC Did the tree change or is this an error? The tree changed. - J -- devel mailing

Re: filesystem

2012-02-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
dp == darrell pfeifer darrel...@gmail.com writes: dp As far as I've seen on the list, the /usr move stuff was supposed to dp be confined by tagging to f17-usermove so it wouldn't affect rawhide dp until the big switch was pulled. Well, yes, but the big switch has actually been pulled. - J --

Re: PCRE 8.30 will break API

2012-02-09 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PP == Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com writes: PP zoneminder Went ahead and rebuilt it now as I intend to be working on it tomorrow. - J -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: /usrmove and path ordering

2012-02-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SS == Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com writes: SS I guess it is time to change habits, what's the point of a separate SS /usr these days ? I also always configured a separate /usr until I decided to obey systemd's complaints about it being broken (though of course I never had any issue at all with

Re: Could someone, please, clarify situation with *-javadoc

2010-05-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
PL == Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com writes: PL Sometimes *-javadoc sub-packages explicitly requires main PL package, and sometimes - not. I'm not a java-expert, so I don't know PL which is correct. Java guidelines have come up recently on the packaging list. The templates in the Java

Re: JBoss stalled

2010-06-05 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
AH == Alex Hudson fed...@alexhudson.com writes: AH So Red Hat's lawyers know that Red Hat are distributing something AH which they have no license for, so either they haven't passed that AH message on or Red Hat have decided they don't care?* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma - J --

Re: gethostbyname() and resolv.conf updates

2010-06-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
BI == Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org writes: BI A Debian user told me that Debian carries a glibc patch to make BI processes notice resolv.conf updates and reload it. Is there any BI chance we could apply the same patch in Fedora too? I don't know all BI the details, but I guess there

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
TK == Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes: TK * What replaces chkconfig TK * What replaces /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME start | stop ? If the answers aren't chkconfig and service foo start then I fear significant backlash from poor people who actually have to run F-14 systems. We pretty much

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I'm not convinced at all this needs changing, since mod_alias NM permits mapping of system paths anywhere you want in your URL space. But selinux probably doesn't, so the issue is slightly more complicated. - J -- devel mailing

Re: Q: webfonts:

2013-05-03 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
NM == Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: NM I don't think selinux will block web server accesses to NM /usr/share/fonts/something, since we deploy webapps in NM /usr/share/something_else, which is pretty much the same namespace. Well, there are a whole lot of specific fcontext

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