[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:32:08 -0500 (CDT), Brandon wrote: >There definitely is some magic involved, though not deep magic. There is a >whole body of terminology and assumptions that we've made up and that >newcomers are therefore totally unfamiliar with. This can be >intimidating. True. I have

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 10:58:03AM -0500, david at aminal.com wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 10:50:17AM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > > > It's not that the code is not stable, it's been more or less stable all > > along (more thanks to Java then to us), but that the system is not > > stable.

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 10:50:17AM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > It's not that the code is not stable, it's been more or less stable all > along (more thanks to Java then to us), but that the system is not > stable. I don't feel like running off to put in things like searching and > updating

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 01:38:28PM -0500, Timm Murray wrote: > > > > > No more so then any other Free Software project. Proably posted > > > by some past-member of the dev mailing list who didn't get their way. > > > > CAUTION: FLAME WAR MATERIAL BELOW - (drink your morning coffee *before* > >

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> It's not that the code is not stable, it's been more or less stable all > along (more thanks to Java then to us), but that the system is not > stable. I don't feel like running off to put in things like searching and > updating until we know that the the very most basic thing - asking for a >

pushing the bazaar (was Re: [Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

(You have TO do something about that mail reader, the quote vertical / comment horizontal thing is trippy but unreadable.) On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 09:34:08AM -0400, Timm Murray wrote: > >Since > >there is no deadline it is > >likely best to do it right > >rather than release buggy > >software

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> my car, even though that would be pretty neat to have. A lot of things > have to be worked out so that your code can work with the system that > exists and even so that your code will seem SANE in the system that > exists. There are alot of people out here who would like to know what the

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> Isn't that a lovely combination? "Fix whats there" and "make new stuff." I > blame Microsoft for this kind of crap (for obvious reasons). Lets just > focus on getting Freenet into a solid, reliable state that meets its design > goals. Then we worry about adding new stuff. Adding new stuff

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> I direct you to "people's exhibit A", in cvs under Freenet/contrib: > > multicast.patch ... Enclosed is the code removed in the multicastectomy. Yes, this is very good evidence of why more developers doesn't necessary lead to better code. One day, this guy just added multicasting to the

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

It's a really weak excuse. Java is so easy (and such bliss) if you know C and especially C++... On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 08:16:20PM -0500, Signal 11 wrote: > > > This whole thing is quite new to me and it will take some time to get used > > to everything... especially getting/reading 150 emails

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

>Somebody on Slashdot >wrote that the reason was >that the existing developers >are pushing people off >because we are afraid it will >hurt our egos when they do >things better then us - but >that is simply not true. No more so then any other Free Software project. Proably posted by some

pushing the bazaar (was Re: [Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

>Since >there is no deadline it is >likely best to do it right >rather than release buggy >software at a fast and >furious rate by taking the >popular shotgun approach to >QA. Actually, we might look into getting a faster development time useing theories learned from the Linux kernel

pushing the bazaar (was Re: [Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> (You have TO do something about that mail reader, the quote vertical / > comment horizontal thing is trippy but unreadable.) I know. I'm thinking about actualy buying a better mail reader for my Palm, because the one that comes with it is quite fscked up. > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:53:04PM +0300, Vesa Salento wrote: > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > Given the complications involved, the changes between 0.2 and 0.3 are what > > can reasonaly be asked of two developers under the given time (consider we > > also totally rewrote the

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> This whole thing is quite new to me and it will take some time to get used > to everything... especially getting/reading 150 emails every day takes > some time too. I've been trying to make progress with it, but the big thing is that Freenet is done in Java, whereas most people (myself

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

> But the coding involved in this project is not deep magic (god knows I > wouldn't be able to do it if it were), so I am a little surprised at the > lack of developers really willing to put down time. Somebody on Slashdot There definitely is some magic involved, though not deep magic. There is

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

All, Technical people talking to journalists? Now that is a terrifying prospect. Techie statement: "The newly installed DLL causes a fatal exception." Journalist's translation: "INNOCENT COMPUTER USERS KILLED BY HACKER'S VIRUS" Steve On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > >

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > Given the complications involved, the changes between 0.2 and 0.3 are what > can reasonaly be asked of two developers under the given time (consider we > also totally rewrote the clients and wrote a simulator from scratch). > > The question is of

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:18:49PM -0400, Travis Bemann wrote: <> > Okay, so I was particulary naive for short moment. Actually, why > don't we try to get as little press as we can while spreading as far > as we can underground so that when we really show up on the radar > screen things it is

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

Yeah, just what we need - more press! That's what we have Ian for... On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:15:17PM -0500, Signal 11 wrote: > That gave me an idea.. what about an IRC conference between reporters > and the freenet developers? Give them a chance to see the other half of > copyright law.. >

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 11:44:58AM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:18:49PM -0400, Travis Bemann wrote: > <> > > Okay, so I was particulary naive for short moment. Actually, why > > don't we try to get as little press as we can while spreading as far > > as we can

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 11:01:19AM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > You think Ian goes to the press and says that Freenet is about pirating > music? He has been working damn hard to give them the right idea, but most > people just don't give a damn, they print what they want to (and care more >

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:36:37AM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > Yeah, just what we need - more press! Well, this might be a chance for us to dispel so myths about Freenet (specifically, that Freenet is primarily for pirating music). OTOH, Freenet is not ready for primetime yet, so it might

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:15:17PM -0500, Signal 11 wrote: > That gave me an idea.. what about an IRC conference between reporters > and the freenet developers? Give them a chance to see the other half of > copyright law.. This would be a good idea. Of course, you have to set the time and date

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

That gave me an idea.. what about an IRC conference between reporters and the freenet developers? Give them a chance to see the other half of copyright law.. -- Signal 11 -o- BOFH, boredengineers.com Education is the best defense against the media.

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:30:47 +0200 From: COPY.CULT original SIgN To: blanu at users.sourceforge.net Subject: invitation to Brussels to the freenet people >From the 25th of September to the 2nd of October, we organise in