Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list

Mr. Ian Clarke, when discussing your acquisition of a secondary domain, "freenet.org", for your highly controversial unilateral decision to rewrite the Freenet Project which has always been hosted on "freenetproject.org", you said the following: > Yeah, all of the provocatively racist domain

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Only a midwit idiot would think that remark was racist, particularly one who brought racism into the conversation in the first place. I thought it was funny, and that's all that matters. If you don't like it, I suggest you touch grass. I'm going to start blocking you idiots. On Sun, Jan 22,

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Ian, I didn't say your statement was racist, just that I didnt find it funny, that's all. I gathered it was made as a joke, but just wanted to state my opposition to racism, as russel requested, and leave it at that. - Original Message - From: Ian Clarke To:

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I have to admit I was confused by the statement Ian made. Joke or not, it wasn't funny. but this is as far as I will go on the matter as I don't wish to get involved in the freenet dispute. - Original Message - From: Russell Glenn To: devl@freenetproject.org Sent: Sunday,

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Woke virtue signaling noted. I don't care whether you find it funny. I'm not seeking your approval. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 11:12 AM craig mcgee < craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: > Ian, > I didn't say your statement was racist, just that I didnt find it funny, > that's all. I

Trolls will be removed from mailing list

Just a note, Russell Glenn (or whoever he is) has been removed from this mailing list, I have zero tolerance for trolls who throw around false accusations of racism, or who harass people (Russell is the idiot who spammed the Locutus Matrix room). Ian. -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project

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I agreed with Ian on the name change and I think "Freenet classic" is perfectly acceptable and indicates exactly what it is -- the classic version. It's not saying it's outdated or legacy or anything like that. And I sympathize with Ian's frustration dealing with this but personally as a member of

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wholeheartedly agree with you, DJ. was sympathetic to the harassment Ian mentioned, was disappointed with what I felt was a dismissive tone taken to racism concerns. I get Ian's comment regarding racist domains was just meant as a joke, however when Russel sent his email regarding how he felt

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That's why I clarified with postmodern neomarxism, although FYI - in the US everyone views "woke" as a pejorative . Here is an excellent book about it by a Columbia

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The biggest threat to free speech today is the take over of corporations and shareholders as the arbiters of what is and is not allowed to be spoken. We allow this to happen because corporations and shareholders "know what's best for the economy" and if you don't like it you're a "postmodern

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"free speech" these days also seems to be, unfortunately, anything that demeans minorities, but anything to criticise those demeaning minorities is obviously not free speech and should be demonized immediately. - Original Message - From: DJ Amireh To: devl@freenetproject.org

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I understand the exact meaning of the terms I've been using, but if you don't you can just admit that. I'm happy to explain. I'm just as opposed to corruption as you are, whether in government or private organizations. as I said, I respect left-liberals. Postmodern neomarxism, aka the

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On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:48 PM craig mcgee < craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: > "free speech" these days also seems to be, unfortunately, anything that > demeans minorities, but anything to criticise those demeaning minorities is > obviously not free speech and should be demonized

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I didnt say thats what free speech is, I said that's what it seems to be, that's what our government in the UK is like anyway. demonizing everyone from refugees to disabled people, but then crying wolf every time someone throws something vaguely nasty like "tory scum" back at them, after

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Sounds like you are unfamiliar with the contemporary discussion using the terms you are bandying about. Heres an encyclopedia article that may enlighten you: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory I believe the first paragraph fits what you are saying to a T, claiming

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UK party politics is definitely off-topic for this list. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:54 PM craig mcgee < craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: > I didnt say thats what free speech is, I said that's what it seems to be, > that's what our government in the UK is like anyway. demonizing

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Do you seriously think Wikipedia is a reliable source on anything remotely related to woke ideology? That's hilarious. The term "Cultural Marxism" is used by many Jewish people, and when they use it, they aren't talking about a far-right ideology. They're talking about a far-left ideology. What

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I would suggest that to keep the argument above board we should be relying on academic sources. Here is my first source: "Cultural Marxism and the Radical Right" published in the anthology "The Post-War Anglo-American Far Right" by the University of Northampton UK. Abstract: "This essay examines

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Trusting academic papers is even worse than trusting Wikipedia , have you not been paying attention? Anyway, I'm not trying to persuade you. I don't have time to pick apart your gish gallop of stuff you just googled. If you believe in

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So I'm not allowed to cite articles from the internet, I'm not allowed to cite articles from peer reviewed journals or universities, what am I allowed to cite? Is there any evidence you would accept that would change your mind? If there is literally no evidence that someone could bring to bear to

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You can cite anything you want, you're just not entitled to the time it would take me to debunk a bunch of pseudoscientific nonsense. I'm not your butler. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 5:35 PM DJ Amireh wrote: > So I'm not allowed to cite articles from the internet, I'm not allowed to > cite articles

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I am a classical liberal and a social libertarian. I grew up as part of a small religious minority and saw ethnic bigotry at a young age. Even as a child I instantly recognized it as evil. I have no problem with left liberals, libertarians, or conservatives. I think they each bring a critical

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I take woke to mean definition 1. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke what is so wrong with that? - Original Message - From: Ian Clarke To: devl@freenetproject.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list

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Sounds like you have already thoroughly made your mind up and any evidence that anyone tried to bring to you to show you why you may be mistaken will be immediately dismissed as coming from some illegitimate demonic "mind virus" that only you can perceive yet can't extrapolate to anybody else what

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With that word salad, I'm done with this thread. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 5:52 PM DJ Amireh wrote: > Sounds like you have already thoroughly made your mind up and any evidence > that anyone tried to bring to you to show you why you may be mistaken will > be immediately dismissed as coming from

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i'm sure "truth social" would be acceptable. maybe "oan" too... - Original Message - From: DJ Amireh To: devl@freenetproject.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list So I'm not allowed to cite articles from the

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Child. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:16 PM craig mcgee < craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: > i'm sure "truth social" would be acceptable. maybe "oan" too... > > - Original Message - > *From:* DJ Amireh > *To:* devl@freenetproject.org > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:35 PM >