Re: [Dhis2-devs] Web API docs

2012-03-21 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Thanks Lars Just to share my earlier mail to you with the world ... If you are not happy about exposing the credentials on the web page and you are using apache, you can also do something like this on the server (requires proxy_http and headers modules): Location /api/ ProxyPass

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] Importing data from external system?

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
at 1:47 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.comwrote: On 17 March 2012 09:15, Saptarshi Purkayastha sun...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to that list of places, we are doing some integration of data coming from Baobab's BART systems into DHIS2 here in Malawi. We discussed many different

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] Importing data from external system?

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
at 11:44 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.comwrote: Yes we use use SDMX+HD to import data from openmrs based hospital system in India. Using it very simplistically (and therefor effectively) to read sdmx+hd cross+sectional data messages without bothering to exchange DSD. The matching of codes

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] Importing data from external system?

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Thanks Lars this is useful. I should add, looking at this example, that the primary difference currently with the dxf2 datavalueset which is imported through the import module is the addition of an idScheme attribute. In the web api example we have dataValueSet

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] Importing data from external system?

2012-03-17 Thread Bob Jolliffe
we’re doing in Rwanda.  We’ve set up one instance of DHIS-2 as our HMIS (for routine data entry by health facilities across the country) and a second instance as a national data warehouse/dashboard – more intended for program managers, implementing partners and donors.  Bob Jolliffe has been here

[Dhis2-devs] question about dataelement aggregation level

2012-03-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I have an issue regarding dataelements which are entered at both health centre and district hospital level. In order to see the actual data at district hospital I have set the aggregation level for this dataelement to the levels above district hospital. Is this a correct interpretation of the

Re: [Dhis2-devs] question about dataelement aggregation level

2012-03-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
. Googlemaps link On 14 March 2012 15:25, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: I have an issue regarding dataelements which are entered at both health centre and district hospital level.  In order to see the actual data at district hospital I have set the aggregation level for this dataelement

[Dhis2-devs] [Bug 948010] [NEW] startup stops at startup routine 6

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Public bug reported: Sometimes (haven't figured out the pattern) the startup stops indefinitely at Executing startup routine [6 of 10, runlevel 4]: PatientTableAlteror (DefaultStartupRoutineExecutor.java [main]) top (on ubuntu) shows that both postgres and tomcat are quiet so seems like nothing

[Dhis2-devs] [Bug 948020] [NEW] unable to save report

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Public bug reported: It doesn't seem to be possible to create a new report-table-based report. When you hit save you get returned to create new report screen. 2.8-SNAPSHOT build 6172 ** Affects: dhis2 Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 948010] Re: startup stops at startup routine 6

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Yes. Must be some small bug in that startup task. On 6 March 2012 13:53, Morten Olav Hansen 948...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I have encountered the same issue a couple of time (with new databases), killing the process and starting it again.. always works. -- You received this bug

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 948010] Re: startup stops at startup routine 6

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 6 March 2012 14:19, Morten Olav Hansen 948...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Yes.  Must be some small bug in that startup task. Yup.. I have told Lars, and think he has told Tran... I have started playing around with creating an /api/export controller now... but we really need to get our XML

[Dhis2-devs] [Bug 948020] Re: unable to save report

2012-03-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
My bad. You need to select a design file ... ** Changed in: dhis2 Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DHIS 2 developers, which is subscribed to DHIS. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/948020 Title: unable to save report Status in

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS2 Live

2012-02-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 29 February 2012 11:51, Juma Lungo jlu...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Jan I am facing a challenge of installing dhis2 in 40 windows computer, can i just use dhis2-live? will it be possible to handle data just as a normal dhis2 in PostgreSQL? What do you mean by installing on 40 windows computers?

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Multiple instances on a server

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Nice subtle recommendation for the midnite commander :-) BTW I am also in favour of the latter of the two approaches. But I am curious has anyone actually measured what the relative cost of running two tomcats vs one tomcat+2 webapps is? I kind of feel instinctively that it doesn't cost much,

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] DHIS version 2.7 is released

2012-02-20 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 19 February 2012 20:39, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: In general its best to do this in increments if possible - upgarding from 2.3 to 2.7 might well cause a few problems.  But if you have a 2.6 database, running the 2.7 war against it should take care of the necessary updates

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] DHIS version 2.7 is released

2012-02-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
In general its best to do this in increments if possible - upgarding from 2.3 to 2.7 might well cause a few problems. But if you have a 2.6 database, running the 2.7 war against it should take care of the necessary updates. As always, take a backup first :-) On 19 February 2012 18:56, Mark

Re: [Dhis2-devs] import thread

2012-02-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2012/2/12 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi, I think the important thing here is to improve the user feedback mechanism, not the extra thread itself. First, in my opinion it is easier to provide user feedback this way - the current arrangement is to start a separate thread and then

Re: [Dhis2-devs] import thread

2012-02-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2012/2/14 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com: Depends really on the use case for import-export.  There should really be very few cases where routine import/export should ever take close to 30 seconds.  I recall the 300 000 data values we imported from the dummy ihris data in Kenya

Re: [Dhis2-devs] question on dxf2 schema

2012-02-09 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi Ime This looks like it is taken from an old schema Jo and I were working on 2 years ago which was never implemented. I think it is still in the documentation branch - I should remove it or at least mark it as deprecated. The current dxf2 data import is much more similar to the pdf which I

[Dhis2-devs] sdlanodcm (mcdonalds in reverse)

2012-02-08 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I have a small problem to which I am seeking advice. Currently we store dimensions of data collapsed into a categoryoptioncombo. Which we are not particularly fond of but we have a lot built on top of it and so we learn to live with it. When reading in data from elsewhere (mobile, 3rd party or

Re: [Dhis2-devs] sdlanodcm (mcdonalds in reverse)

2012-02-08 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Oops .. Just spotted a method in categoryservice ... hold on. On 8 February 2012 15:25, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: I have a small problem to which I am seeking advice. Currently we store dimensions of data collapsed into a categoryoptioncombo.  Which we are not particularly

Re: [Dhis2-devs] import thread

2012-02-07 Thread Bob Jolliffe
, Jason On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: One of the difficulties of providing good user feedback on import is the that we spawn an extra thread to do the actual importing and we don't have very sophisticated inter-thread communication with that worker

[Dhis2-devs] import thread

2012-02-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
One of the difficulties of providing good user feedback on import is the that we spawn an extra thread to do the actual importing and we don't have very sophisticated inter-thread communication with that worker beyond the status message which is a transient thing. And better logging is not a

Re: [Dhis2-devs] SMTP settings

2012-01-25 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 24 January 2012 17:40, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: I could. I could also support username/password. The question is whether I should bother. My interpretation of the use case (or at least one of them) was a locally configured SMTP server (residing on the same server

Re: [Dhis2-devs] mydatamart

2012-01-10 Thread Bob Jolliffe
...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: There has been quite a few new requirements/wishlist etc emerging for mydatamart.  Also it seems this little tool has become a much more critical part of the general infrastructure with the rapid move towards

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 909624] Re: Resource Tables are not generated

2012-01-02 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Is this the report tables or the resource tables? Subject of the bug report doesn't match the content. On 2 January 2012 16:09, jason.p.pickering 909...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Whoops. Does this mean they are never materialized? -- Sent from my mobile On Jan 2, 2012 5:02 PM, Lars Helge

[Dhis2-devs] Fwd: Innovation for profit or the common good

2011-12-22 Thread Bob Jolliffe
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rasigan Maharajh rasi...@ieri.org.za Date: 22 December 2011 09:52 Subject: Innovation for profit or the common good To: Nhlanhla Mabaso nmab...@gmail.com, Erika Kraemer erik...@gmail.com, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com, Erika Vegter er

Re: [Dhis2-devs] weave looks cool ...

2011-12-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
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[Dhis2-devs] weave looks cool ...

2011-12-15 Thread Bob Jolliffe
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[Dhis2-devs] postgres 8.4/9.1 bytea problem solution

2011-12-15 Thread Bob Jolliffe
In case anyone in the world is interested other than me, a useful empirical discovery when exporting from 9.X to an earlier 8.4 based server is to set the bytea_output variable at the level of the database: ALTER DATABASE bloodbank SET bytea_output='escape'; Then the bytea data will come out old

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-documenters/dhis2/dhis2-docbook-docs] Rev 426: Added section on using nginx as a reverse proxy to the setup documentation. Polished up the GIS s...

2011-12-12 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi guys I haven't used this myself, but looking at the docs it seems that nginx is setup to do straight http proxying ie. it is not talking ajp to the backend tomcat server. Is this correct? I could be wrong, but Jo/Morten this might have some implication with the absolute URLs being used in

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-documenters/dhis2/dhis2-docbook-docs] Rev 426: Added section on using nginx as a reverse proxy to the setup documentation. Polished up the GIS s...

2011-12-12 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 12 December 2011 10:19, Jo Størset stor...@gmail.com wrote: Den 12. des. 2011 kl. 10.16 skrev Jason Pickering: It is using straight HTTP, and in this example, serves up the static content, bypassing the Tomcat server. I have not tried with the web-api, but everything else seems to work

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 897677] [NEW] Some functions not working in DHIS 2 after database restore

2011-11-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I've succeeded in restoring postgres 8.4 from 9.0 a couple of times but I can see there is indeed a syntax incompatibility here. Moving to 9.1 on Ubuntu 10.04LTS is not really my recommended option as 9.1 is not in the standard repositories. Which is why I have been advising people to stick with

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 897677] [NEW] Some functions not working in DHIS 2 after database restore

2011-11-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
are going to end up with two postgres databases listening on different ports which can be confusing. Bob On 29 November 2011 17:15, jason.p.pickering 897...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Or upgrade to Ububtu 11.04 where postgres 9.1 is included as a package. On Nov 29, 2011 7:10 PM, Bob Jolliffe

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 897677] [NEW] Some functions not working in DHIS 2 after database restore

2011-11-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 29 November 2011 17:30, Jo Størset 897...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Default encoding of byte arrays have changed between 8.4 and 9.0. It should be fixable by specifying bytea_output in the 9 db, see , [1] Yes this is definitely the cause of at least one of the problems. Any idea how you set

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 897677] [NEW] Some functions not working in DHIS 2 after database restore

2011-11-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I suspect they are working on ubuntu server from the commandline. Even so the commands can be easily typed from the psql prompt after connecting to the database. On 29 November 2011 20:05, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote: In case you wondered, the three commands that Lars lists below can be

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Datamart help

2011-11-22 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi Michel Are you sure you mean 2.0.5 not 2.5? just checking. There is no built in xml export of the datamart. It can be quite large and probably not really suited to xml formatting anyway. Tell me more what you need it for and maybe I can help. The best way to export from the datamart is

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 887057] [NEW] resource-table-generation-does-not-escape-unsafe-characters

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/11/15 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi Jason, you are correct. For some very weird reason we had chosen to make an exception for postgres and escape single-quote with a backslash, while doubling it ( '' ) is the standard and preferred way in sql. Hence it did not only affect

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 887057] [NEW] resource-table-generation-does-not-escape-unsafe-characters

2011-11-07 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 07/11/2011, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I managed to get to the bottom of this, as it was not happening in previous versions of Postgresql. The default postgres version on Ubuntu 11.10 is 9.1. OK. Mind you I don't think we should be running production systems on

[Dhis2-devs] Fwd: [Members] Linux Training in Kampala - 2011 Update

2011-11-04 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Might be of interest to Uganda based folk (and neighbours) -- Forwarded message -- From: Brian Ssennoga b.ssenn...@gmail.com Date: 6 October 2011 11:37 Subject: [Members] Linux Training in Kampala - 2011 Update To: Uganda Linux User Group l...@linux.or.ug Cc: FBT

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] (no subject)

2011-11-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
There is a small bash script which I know at least Lars and I use, which automates this process of deleting, unzipping etc. Handy during development when you quickly want to deploy a new war on to dhis-live. But others might find different ways to use it. I've attached it here. It is really

Re: [Dhis2-devs] shifting hibernate hbm.xml files

2011-11-02 Thread Bob Jolliffe
...@gmail.com wrote: I dont see them changing... atleast when i tried to commit through bzr nothing showed up in changed files for me --- Regards, Saptarshi PURKAYASTHA My Tech Blog:  http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com You Live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE On 2 November 2011 05:50, Bob Jolliffe

[Dhis2-devs] shifting hibernate hbm.xml files

2011-11-01 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Can anybody tell me what is modifying the hibernate configuration files? I (perhaps naively) thought that the developer writes these and keeps under version control. Every now again I see that they have changed - usually just formatting changes. Like they are being read and then written back

Re: [Dhis2-devs] shifting hibernate hbm.xml files

2011-11-01 Thread Bob Jolliffe
my day. Saptarshi have you seen anything like this? Bob On 1 November 2011 23:21, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Can anybody tell me what is modifying the hibernate configuration files?  I (perhaps naively) thought that the developer writes these and keeps under version control

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Velocity log

2011-10-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Jason appreciate the investigation you are doing here. I think it's important that we handle these things well. On 29 October 2011 20:18, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, it is a minor issue. It is just annoying when trawling through logs to see all this stuff which

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Velocity log

2011-10-28 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 28 October 2011 12:44, Jo Størset stor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jason, I think the easiest is maybe to tweak the startup script you are running to cd into the log directory before starting tomcat. Then velocity.log will end up there.. If you use ubuntu packages, you can change the existing

Re: [Dhis2-devs] uuid

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Jolliffe
in dhis? besides Jo. Regards Bob --- Regards, Saptarshi PURKAYASTHA My Tech Blog:  http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com You Live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE On 24 October 2011 02:03, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Lars and Jo and I have been discussing a bit about ids off list

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS 2 version 2.5 released

2011-10-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/10/14 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi all, DHIS 2 version 2.5 is released. We have a range of new modules and functions for you (demo login is admin/district): - New Data Visualizer module: A module for generating dynamic data analysis and visualization. You can select

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk] Rev 4866: Impl methods for getting latitude and longitude from coordinate string

2011-10-07 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/10/7 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com: Hi Lars, Again, another suggestion for the coordinate format, which is slightly more restrictive (perhaps overly so). ^\[[+-]?([0-9]|[1-9][0-9]|1[0-7][0-9])(\.\d{1,})?,(\s)?[+-]?([0-9]|[1-8][0-9])(\.\d{1,})?\]$ I guess it's an age old

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk] Rev 4838: Put code uniqueness check back in import module

2011-10-05 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/10/5 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com: Is there going to be a way for the system to autogenerate a code if 1) there is a collision during import 2) if the user does not enter one (I suppose it will be enforced through the UI), but does not know what the code should be? My

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk] Rev 4838: Put code uniqueness check back in import module

2011-10-05 Thread Bob Jolliffe
of the reasons (at my insistence) that we relaxed the uniqueness constraint some time back, as it made imports from 1.4 databases impossible where there were uniqueness violations. Should we just throw away these codes on import? Regards, Jason 2011/10/5 Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com: 2011/10

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk] Rev 4838: Put code uniqueness check back in import module

2011-10-05 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/10/5 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com: On Oct 5, 2011 4:33 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/10/5 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com: Sounds good. I remember at some point in time, the code was required from the UI (but not the DB). As long as NULL

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Two form transcription conundrums ...

2011-10-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 3 October 2011 12:28, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Back in the land of the little people and the bogs.  I've just returned from a week in Rwanda (which was much too short) where I had the opportunity to work with Arthur Heywood and some good people in the Rwanda MOH

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Two form transcription conundrums ...

2011-10-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/10/3 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi, I think your data element/category definitions make sense in this case. One should clearly not join the four category options you mention into the same category here. In Kenya we discovered that 90 % of the forms fit with the classic

Re: [Dhis2-devs] attributes

2011-09-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi Morten 2011/9/29 Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com: Hi Bob, I have just talked to Lars about this issue, and there are several concerns, with dropping the AttributeOption, and with keeping it. Why drop? - Reuse group / groupset code already there - Aggregation Why keep? - Reuse

Re: [Dhis2-devs] attributes

2011-09-29 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 30 September 2011 05:00, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: I think I agree with most of what you are saying Bob, but it will take some time for me to grok it. ;) The issue of attributes for users is I think not compelling.  There isn't really an immediate strong demand,

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [OPENMRS-DEV] Current state of attributes

2011-09-26 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I think maybe its really a UI paradigm twist ... Currently we only add orgunits to groups in the orgunitgroup editor. What we need, in the orgunit edit screen, is to show the orgunitgroupsets (attributes) and their corresponding groups (values) and have the means to change the value from there.

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [OPENMRS-DEV] Current state of attributes

2011-09-26 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 26/09/2011, Ola Hodne Titlestad ol...@ifi.uio.no wrote: 2011/9/26 Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com I think maybe its really a UI paradigm twist ... Currently we only add orgunits to groups in the orgunitgroup editor. What we need, in the orgunit edit screen, is to show

[Dhis2-devs] java on ubuntu

2011-09-25 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Quick question. There seems to be at least 3 common ways I see java being deployed on ubuntu: 1. download jdk binaries from sun, expand to some custom folder (eg /home/bobj/java) and set path and JAVA_HOME accordingly 2. install 'official' oracle jdk java6 binaries with something like 'sudo

Re: [Dhis2-devs] java on ubuntu

2011-09-25 Thread Bob Jolliffe
. The proprietary font packs. Maybe we need to investigate these jasper fonts a bit more closely. Getting font liberated is a good thing. Cheers Bob On Sep 25, 2011 8:06 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Quick question. There seems to be at least 3 common ways I see java being deployed on ubuntu

[Dhis2-devs] Fwd: [OPENMRS-DEV] Current state of attributes

2011-09-25 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Couldn't help but notice that the openmrs team are also engaged in a process of defining generic attributes. And making them the subject of design calls :-) It might be useful to compare. Two things i pick up from the below is that there seems to be much effort put into attribute types

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [OPENMRS-DEV] Current state of attributes

2011-09-25 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On coded attributes ... How is a coded attribute different from a groupset? From a dimensionality perspective they realy seem completely identical to me. So should we drop groupsets? Or implement coded attributes as groupsets? On 25 September 2011 16:25, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk] Rev 4668: Data mart, made the tasks running in parallell more evenly distributed in terms of workload, impr...

2011-09-23 Thread Bob Jolliffe
This is looking cool. good work. On 23 September 2011 23:41, nore...@launchpad.net wrote: revno: 4668 committer: Lars Helge Overland larshe...@gmail.com branch nick: dhis2 timestamp: Sat 2011-09-24 00:39:54 +0200 message:  Data

[Dhis2-devs] survey of existing concepts

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Greetings. I am busy trying to implement concept mapping of categories and groupsets in dhis and looking for some input from our wide and varied experience. The reason being that I want to assemble some pre-defined core concepts to make it easier for users to start (re)configuring a system. For

Re: [Dhis2-devs] survey of existing concepts

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Jolliffe
the same way we need default cateogoryoptioncombo). And users have the option of installing a 'starter pack' from dhis2.org via dxf if they choose to. In fact that might be a cleaner separation. Regards Bob Abyot. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Dhis2-devs] survey of existing concepts

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 22 September 2011 16:26, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote: Designing to enable bootstrapping Or is that bootstrapping to aid designing :-) Seriously though, whether this is done internally (ie from inside the distributed war) or externally is not a major decision we have to make now.

[Dhis2-devs] Fwd: Invitation to Participate at the International Cloud Symposium

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Potentially interesting gathering to discuss standards oriented view of public sector in the cloud. Its a bit sad that people still see Europe, North America and Asia as sufficient to provide a truly global perspective, but there you have it. Most of the really critical issues (security,

[Dhis2-devs] fixing what's broke without breaking what's fixed - categoryoptioncombos

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I've a problem which I'd welcome some input on. And which is at least peripherally related to the mail Knut has just sent re case sensitive name matching (MALE != Male). Its about fixing the categoryoptioncombos and bringing in the notion of concepts, which has already been discussed at length

Re: [Dhis2-devs] fixing what's broke without breaking what's fixed - categoryoptioncombos

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Jolliffe
individual say for example (of course unfortunately) who is in both tb and hiv registers. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: I've a problem which I'd welcome some input on.  And which is at least peripherally related to the mail Knut has just sent re case

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Branch ~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/trunk] Rev 4611: added proper validation for real/natural numbers (including support for e-notation)

2011-09-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Perhaps what is more important than being able to support a count of the number of stars in the galaxy, is how we treat these numbers once we have them captured at whatever that precision this might be. Currently I think our notion of precision is a bit weak. In the datamart service for

Re: [Dhis2-devs] dxf2 data

2011-09-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/9/19 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi Bob, thanks for the well-written document, I think it is very sensible and clearly describes the direction where we want to move. Agree fully on the points on separation of meta- and data, idscheme, and period representation. My only

Re: [Dhis2-devs] dxf2 data

2011-09-19 Thread Bob Jolliffe
there yet :-) Mind you, I think there could be lots of benefits of generalizing group/groupsets, regardless. For now I am grappling with categorycombo ... Cheers Bob Cheers, murod 2011/9/19 Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com 2011/9/19 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi Bob

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 16 September 2011 11:23, Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com wrote: A decent recap, Bob and Morten? Yes thanks for calling in and good recap. Scope creep on which objects can have extensible attributes could render it cumbersome eventually, but while the number of such objects is few it

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 16 September 2011 11:54, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: Could we also add users to the objects with dynamic attributes? We need some more fields for alternative telephone numbers, fax, etc etc. and so it begins ... Sounds reasonable to me :-) Or use ldap. Bob

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
. Bob On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2011 11:54, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: Could we also add users to the objects with dynamic attributes? We need some more fields for alternative telephone numbers, fax

Re: [Dhis2-devs] dhis2 dxf data import

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
for both parties for dhis to simply export codelists for dataelements and orgunits, rather than the kitchen sink of shortnames, alternative names, geo-coordinates etc etc. Ime --- On *Thu, 9/15/11, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com Subject

Re: [Dhis2-devs] dhis2 dxf data import

2011-09-15 Thread Bob Jolliffe
a startup routine which automatically assigns codes based on the existing internal ids where they do not already exist.) Regards Bob Thanks Ime --- On *Thu, 9/1/11, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com* wrote: The implication of adding all the above will be that whereas the datavalueset above

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Breaking out from our current hard coded set of object attributes is certainly a great step forward. There is also some advantage in trying to think a bit generally about what we are doing. We are seeing lots of progress in the right direction. I was about to start a discussion about names

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
? Bob On 14 September 2011 12:27, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Breaking out from our current hard coded set of object attributes is certainly a great step forward.  There is also some advantage in trying to think a bit generally about what we are doing.  We are seeing lots of progress

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
. Maybe tomorrow or Friday? Lars are you around and/or available as well? Regards Bob -- Morten Bob On 14 September 2011 12:27, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Breaking out from our current hard coded set of object attributes is certainly a great step forward.  There is also some

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
OK. Lets try Friday morning 09h30 my time - that's 10h30 Oslo time Dial-in number: +1-424-203-8000 or Skype call to: freeconferencing.8000 Code: 553472 I know you are under pressure to finish this stuff so the intent is not to slow things up. Just keep us all pointing in same direction :-)

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
=Clinic name='Bob's Clinic' alternateName='Robert's Fancy Clinic for the bewildered' geoCode=... contactPerson='Bob Jolliffe' bedcapacity=0 etc / It is up to the consumer of such an element to decide how to actually store this stuff internally and different systems might well do

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Final thought from me for now ... On 14 September 2011 17:11, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 September 2011 15:32, Carl Leitner litlf...@ibiblio.org wrote: Hi All,  I was just watching this thread and wanted to share our possibly similar experiences from iHRIS.  Admittedly I

[Dhis2-devs] dxf2 data

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Just emerging from implementing data exchange with iHRIS HR system in Kenya. The attached is my first attempt at a working draft of documenting what is going on re the data exchange format in the importexport service module. I'll put it under the documentation project as soon as I've firmed up

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS2 continues to bomb

2011-09-12 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 12 September 2011 18:41, Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com wrote: Only one war, only one corresponding directory Ok, tomcat seems to think that there should be jars/resource in the webapps/dhis2 directory, and you seem to be deploying as dhis.war, correct? and so, you have only a dhis

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS2 continues to bomb

2011-09-12 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 12 September 2011 20:45, r.fried...@mindspring.com wrote: OK, the list of files under Tomcat 6.0 containing the text DHIS2 is attached.  I cleared out DHIS directories from Tomcat 6.0\ in -- conf\Catalina\localhost -- work\Catalina\localhost -- webapps (+dhis.war) I started Tomcat

[Dhis2-devs] unique codes

2011-09-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Can someone point me back to the rationale for allowing non-unique codes for dataelements etc in the database model. I'm struggling to understand this requirement. Cheers Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to :

Re: [Dhis2-devs] unique codes

2011-09-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
imports from 1.4 where a (unique) code is not required. Alright. That was it. Wonder what they use code for? Regards, Jason On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone point me back to the rationale for allowing non-unique codes for dataelements etc

Re: [Dhis2-devs] unique codes

2011-09-06 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 6 September 2011 17:29, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 September 2011 17:01, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure, but it may have something to do with 1.4 https

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 733843] [NEW] trailing-spaces-distinguish-category-options

2011-09-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
the implications, but I can foresee a few things might get broken. Regards Bob Ola - On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/trailing-whitespace On 2 September 2011 19:46, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli

[Dhis2-devs] polyglot html5

2011-09-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Some sound recommendations here as we sail off into the trouble-free (!) waters of html5 http://www.xmlplease.com/xhtml/xhtml5polyglot/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 733843] [NEW] trailing-spaces-distinguish-category-options

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Jolliffe
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/trailing-whitespace On 2 September 2011 19:46, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: Made blueprint. On 12 March 2011 14:17, jason.p.pickering 733...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Public bug reported: Two category options were created Doctors

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Bug 733843] [NEW] trailing-spaces-distinguish-category-options

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Made blueprint. On 12 March 2011 14:17, jason.p.pickering 733...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Public bug reported: Two category options were created Doctors and Doctors . Was accepted upon insert, but fails when exported/imported with DXF. ** Affects: dhis2     Importance: Undecided      

[Dhis2-devs] dhis2 dxf data import

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I've been re-looking at dxf stuff in line with this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/separation-of-meta-data-and-data-values. A driving use case here is the import of HR data from iHRIS in Kenya. With over 8000 orgunits, the current scheme of importing metadata then mapping

Re: [Dhis2-devs] dhis2 dxf data import

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 1 September 2011 15:02, Jo Størset stor...@gmail.com wrote: Great that you're looking at this. Some immediate feedback (pardon the lack of structure:) Thanks for feedback ... Den 1. sep. 2011 kl. 13.55 skrev Bob Jolliffe: As a first step I am interested in reusing the DataValueSet

Re: [Dhis2-devs] dhis2 dxf data import

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 1 September 2011 20:49, Jo Størset stor...@gmail.com wrote: Den 1. sep. 2011 kl. 17.04 skrev Bob Jolliffe: 1.  We should shift storedBy up to the dataValueSet level. My thinking would be that what is relevant is who has stored this value in *this* database.  Usernames from strange

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS 2 version 2.4 BETA available

2011-08-25 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com: Bob, Offline should now work in Firefox 3.6 (just pushet a fix), could you try it out? (you need to compile source, no war for this yet) -- Morten 2011/8/24 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS 2 version 2.4 BETA available

2011-08-24 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I am a bit stuck. I'm hitting an issue where I keep seeing the message you are offline when I am not offline. And I can't select any datasets or periods. Clearing cache, restarting my browser is not helping. any ideas? 2011/8/24 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: Hi Greg, thank you for

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS 2 version 2.4 BETA available

2011-08-24 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2011/8/24 Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit stuck.  I'm hitting an issue where I keep seeing the message you are offline when I am not offline.  And I can't select any datasets or periods.  Clearing

Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS 2 version 2.4 BETA available

2011-08-24 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Sorry mistyped - that was 3.6.20 On 24 August 2011 12:21, Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it will not work on that browser version. You need firefox 3.5 or newer (or chrome) -- Morten On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8

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