Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-10-05 Thread Dejan Lekic
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:13:10 +0200, bioinfornatics wrote: > I had release all rpm > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-August/187609.html > > if no one take it they will go out of fedora. > > I am lazy to explain that is not : > - a build system or dub but - a build system and

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-13 Thread Moritz Maxeiner
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 13:46:52 UTC, David wrote: I don't know how it is for other distros, but the newest dmd and ldc version are available in the Archlinux's [community] repository while gdc and dub are available in the AUR, meaning you get a fully working D environment on Archlinux by

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-08-12 12:38, Russel Winder wrote: Currently GDC is in Debian, but I have to get DMD from a private Debian repository instead of the official one, and I build LDC myself because the Debian package is too old. This measn having to have three versions of all the libraries and packages becau

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 15:55:10 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: My view may indeed be heavily tinted by Windows, where this sort of thing just isn't an issue to care about. I suppose I'll have to adjust that a bit. Hah, yeah, I guess the very understanding of user-distributed "package" is very

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Mike Parker
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 15:39:59 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 14:34:04 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: That's true. But, correct me if I'm wrong, rpms and the like are bundled independently of the original source repository. So a project relying solely on dub doesn't stop a pac

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 14:34:04 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: That's true. But, correct me if I'm wrong, rpms and the like are bundled independently of the original source repository. So a project relying solely on dub doesn't stop a package maintainer from keeping a separate build script to bu

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Mike Parker
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 13:38:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote: 1) Developers tend to forget that tools like `dub` are for taking care of dependencies during development and end users won't have `dub`. Even if it is a library, dynamic linking implies that it will be pulled as a dependency not only

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread David Nadlinger
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 13:06:46 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: In packaging Derelict for Fedora, he had been relying on a pull request I accepted from him some time ago that added shared library support to the Derelict build script. Jonathan unfortunately has also opted to build druntime and P

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 13:46:52 UTC, David wrote: LDC is in [community] already, and iirc Dicebot is working on getting GDC into [community], too Actually I am simply waiting until my PGP key gets signed by at least 3 Arch Linux master keys :) Will make announcement about all package c

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread David
> I don't know how it is for other distros, but the newest dmd and ldc > version are available in the Archlinux's [community] repository while > gdc and dub are available in the AUR, meaning you get a fully working D > environment on Archlinux by doing LDC is in [community] already, and iirc Diceb

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 13:06:46 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: As long as packaging the various distros doesn't require any constraints on how I manage my projects, then it doesn't matter too much to me where or how people package it up. However, I do see benefits to promoting dub as the means t

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Mike Parker
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 10:38:21 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: Anecdotal experience indicates this musn't be an "or" situation. Perhaps. My response in this thread derived from a brief exchange Jonathan and I had over at github. In packaging Derelict for Fedora, he had been relying on a pu

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Russel Winder
On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 11:41 +0100, Iain Buclaw wrote: […] > > You can now get GDC from debian unstable if you want to risk it for a > biscuit. Not recommended for Debian stable, and look up apt-pinning > for Debian testing releases. I am already on Debian Unstable with GDC 4.8.1-8 :-) I am thou

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 12 August 2013 11:38, Russel Winder wrote: > On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 09:58 +0200, Mike Parker wrote: > […] >> dub suits this purpose just fine. It's a build tool and a package >> manager. It can be used just like the various Linux package >> managers (dub install libname), but but it's even bette

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Russel Winder
On Mon, 2013-08-12 at 09:58 +0200, Mike Parker wrote: […] > dub suits this purpose just fine. It's a build tool and a package > manager. It can be used just like the various Linux package > managers (dub install libname), but but it's even better in that > you can skip that step entirely. List y

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Moritz Maxeiner
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 17:15:52 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote: What would be nice, however, is to have these D-specific tools such as DVM, dub, … available in the distro repositories, preconfigured to fit the customs of the given system. This way, users could just do "yum install dvm dub" (o

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Jordi Sayol
On 11/08/13 16:51, bioinfornatics wrote: > Too many project is a nightmare to package. > Developper do not see that dub is a tool to help user to get some D lib as is > done in ruby python or perl. But dub is not for packaging! > > I am lazy to do this job and D packaging > It's very sad hear t

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread Mike Parker
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 07:13:11 UTC, bioinfornatics wrote: I had release all rpm https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-August/187609.html if no one take it they will go out of fedora. I am lazy to explain that is not : - a build system or dub but - a build system and dub

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-12 Thread bioinfornatics
I had release all rpm https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-August/187609.html if no one take it they will go out of fedora. I am lazy to explain that is not : - a build system or dub but - a build system and dub Firstly not everyone spent time to search their tool from cpan rv

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-11 Thread Dicebot
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 17:15:52 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote: What would be nice, however, is to have these D-specific tools such as DVM, dub, … available in the distro repositories Work in progress :)

Re: stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-11 Thread David Nadlinger
Dear Jonathan, It's sad to see you go, we desperately need any help we can get on the packaging front (for all those who don't know, Jonathan aka bioinfornatics has been maintaining several D-related packages in the official Fedora repositories). However, I would argue that D libraries shoul

stop to maitain rpm

2013-08-11 Thread bioinfornatics
Too many project is a nightmare to package. Developper do not see that dub is a tool to help user to get some D lib as is done in ruby python or perl. But dub is not for packaging! I am lazy to do this job and D packaging good luck