On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 01:17:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Hello,
Walter and I have been mulling for a while on a vision for the
first six months of 2015.
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
This is stuff we consider important for D going forward and
plan to work actively on.
On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:36 +, Atila Neves via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
Indeed. Most of the issues I hear about stem from it trying to do
both at the same time. It's a good package manager but
unfortunately a not so good build system. This makes me think, once
more, of writing
On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 22:46 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
- Create the D Language Foundation
What exactly is this idea
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 07:35:07 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2015-02-02 06:57, ketmar wrote:
dub is good, but only in limited use cases. so it's almost no
sense in
using dub if some use cases are not suitable for it: it's way
better to
adapt build tool that one already using (or write
On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 07:59 +, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
but i think that it's too late now to separate this dub parts. :-(
Far from it. Now is the time to do it. There has been enough use of it
that there is genuine practical experience of the workflows and the
ups
KDE is a german e.V. (eingetragener Verein, registered
association [1] ). Maybe that's an option for D, too.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eingetragener_Verein
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 03:50:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
C and C++ are very general-purpose, but they can still be
considered as a niche of performance languages. What's wrong
with D aiming for that niche?
That would be great, but the language designers are not aiming
for it. The ideal in
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 12:36:14 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 07:35:07 UTC, Jacob Carlborg
wrote:
On 2015-02-02 06:57, ketmar wrote:
dub is good, but only in limited use cases. so it's almost no
sense in
using dub if some use cases are not suitable for it: it's
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 00:14:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 2/1/15 1:46 PM, Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
- Create the D
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 12:50:54 +, Russel Winder via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
Given Gradle is both a dependency and build manager, and is the
standard platform for Android builds, and has C++ as well as JVM
languages support, I would suggest it would be a great base.
I've been
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 05:17:40 UTC, Jerry Morrison wrote:
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 03:50:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
C and C++ are very general-purpose, but they can still be
considered as a niche of performance languages. What's
wrong with D aiming for that niche?
Most uses of C
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 18:20:18 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Well, given the current focus on @nogc and C++ integration, it
appears that niche has been chosen, and you and Ola get your
wish.
Uhm... I don't think D-side STL and C++ exceptions is a good
idea. I don't think tying the runtime to
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:35:07 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2015-02-02 06:57, ketmar wrote:
dub is good, but only in limited use cases. so it's almost no sense in
using dub if some use cases are not suitable for it: it's way better to
adapt build tool that one already using (or write his
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 05:23:52 UTC, Daniel Murphy wrote:
Vladimir Panteleev wrote in message
news:viqwfixznbdbdwvha...@forum.dlang.org...
I don't use Dub
You really should! I put it off for months and months but I'm
quite happy with it now.
Replied in a new thread here:
I'd really like Emphasize vibe.d to be replaced with Emphasize
dub. Get the latter and you get the former essentially for free
(and it is WIP already).
Other than that - list makes perfect sense.
I think I can mostly agree with the plan, but:
Improve language stability
Define appropriately fuzzily-defined areas of the language
(e.g. shared semantics, @property).
This is either a contradiction in itself, or stability actually
means change.
Foster library additions over language
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 01:17:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Hello,
Walter and I have been mulling for a while on a vision for the
first six months of 2015.
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
This is stuff we consider important for D going forward and
plan to work actively on.
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 10:20:47 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
I'd really like Emphasize vibe.d to be replaced with
Emphasize dub. Get the latter and you get the former
essentially for free (and it is WIP already).
I wish inclusions like this would go through a code review, the
sort we put new
On 2015-02-01 08:12, Joakim wrote:
I wish there had been some mention of mobile. Recent news was that 1
billion Android smartphones were sold last year: that dwarfs the 316
million PCs sold, a number that keeps declining. That doesn't even
include the two hundred million tablets sold last
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 14:00:37 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
I think I can mostly agree with the plan, but:
Improve language stability
Define appropriately fuzzily-defined areas of the language
(e.g. shared semantics, @property).
This is either a contradiction in itself, or stability
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 01:17:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Hello,
Walter and I have been mulling for a while on a vision for the
first six months of 2015.
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
This is stuff we consider important for D going forward and
plan to work actively on.
On 2/1/15 7:48 AM, Mathias LANG wrote:
This is arguably the most well-defined goal here, but at the same time,
it sounds strange to judge the contributions by the numbers of pull
request. We could top that number -and I'm afraid we'll be tempted to do
so- by submitting a streamline of pull
I think if a concrete number inspires people to commit loads of
small fixes to docs, unittests, etc., then this is a good thing.
It's not like anyone is going to give up on committing when the
target's reached.
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 01:17:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Hello,
Walter and I have been mulling for a while on a vision for the
first six months of 2015.
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
This is stuff we consider important for D going forward and
plan to work actively on.
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
- Create the D Language Foundation
What exactly is this idea about, can you elaborate a bit?
On Sunday, February 01, 2015 08:41:54 Andrei Alexandrescu via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On 2/1/15 7:48 AM, Mathias LANG wrote:
This is arguably the most well-defined goal here, but at the same time,
it sounds strange to judge the contributions by the numbers of pull
request. We could
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:12:41 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
- Create the D Language Foundation
What exactly is this idea about, can you elaborate a
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:31:47 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:12:41 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic
wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
- Create the D Language
On 2/1/15 11:02 AM, Phil wrote:
I think if a concrete number inspires people to commit loads of small
fixes to docs, unittests, etc., then this is a good thing. It's not like
anyone is going to give up on committing when the target's reached.
Nicely we already have 484 created in January:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:40:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
- Create the D Language Foundation
btw I personally think this is single most important point in
the list that is necessary to actually moved forward with
others in focused manner. But it really depends on how it is
defined.
Yes,
On 2/1/15 1:46 PM, Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
- Create the D Language Foundation
What exactly is this idea about, can you elaborate
On 2/1/15 2:40 PM, Dicebot wrote:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:31:47 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:12:41 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
*answered
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 00:23:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 2/1/15 2:40 PM, Dicebot wrote:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:31:47 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:12:41 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic
wrote:
On 2/1/15, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/1/15 3:52 PM, Jerry Morrison wrote:
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 22:40:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
- Create the D Language Foundation
btw I personally think this is single most important point in the list
that is necessary to actually moved forward with others in focused
manner. But it
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 01:43:02 UTC, Jerry Morrison wrote:
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 00:58:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 2/1/15 3:52 PM, Jerry Morrison wrote:
The other big thing missing from the Vision doc is picking a
niche,
That may as well come later - or not at all.
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 00:58:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 2/1/15 3:52 PM, Jerry Morrison wrote:
The other big thing missing from the Vision doc is picking a
niche,
That may as well come later - or not at all. We don't think it
is now time to commit to a particular niche.
s/pragmatics/pragmatists/
On 2015-02-02 06:57, ketmar wrote:
dub is good, but only in limited use cases. so it's almost no sense in
using dub if some use cases are not suitable for it: it's way better to
adapt build tool that one already using (or write his own) instead of use
TWO build tools for different projects.
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 05:57:27 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:24:00 +1100, Daniel Murphy wrote:
Vladimir Panteleev wrote in message
news:viqwfixznbdbdwvha...@forum.dlang.org...
I don't use Dub
You really should! I put it off for months and months but I'm
quite
happy
On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 03:50:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:
C and C++ are very general-purpose, but they can still be
considered as a niche of performance languages. What's wrong
with D aiming for that niche?
Most uses of C C++ that haven't migrated to well-supported
garbage-collected
Vladimir Panteleev wrote in message
news:viqwfixznbdbdwvha...@forum.dlang.org...
I don't use Dub
You really should! I put it off for months and months but I'm quite happy
with it now.
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:24:00 +1100, Daniel Murphy wrote:
Vladimir Panteleev wrote in message
news:viqwfixznbdbdwvha...@forum.dlang.org...
I don't use Dub
You really should! I put it off for months and months but I'm quite
happy with it now.
dub is very limited tool. first: it can't do
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 03:46:25 UTC, data man wrote:
Vision/2015H1 wrote:
We believe safety is an important aspect of language design,
and we plan to continue building on the @safe/@trusted/@system
troika.
I like the troika :-)
I had to look up what it means :/
Joakim wrote in message news:nphrawlkmiwksghfy...@forum.dlang.org...
Nice work, D needed some direction like this. I thought one oversight was
no mention of ddmd, which seems to have gone into limbo over the last
year. According to Daniel, it's pretty much done but is just waiting on
Brad
Vision/2015H1 wrote:
We believe safety is an important aspect of language design,
and we plan to continue building on the @safe/@trusted/@system
troika.
I like the troika :-)
On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 01:17:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Hello,
Walter and I have been mulling for a while on a vision for the
first six months of 2015.
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
This is stuff we consider important for D going forward and
plan to work actively on.
On 1/02/2015 2:17 p.m., Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Hello,
Walter and I have been mulling for a while on a vision for the first six
months of 2015.
http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1
This is stuff we consider important for D going forward and plan to work
actively on. We encourage the D
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