Hi,
as we start to ramp up more infrastructure, I'd like to make
you think about what's crucially needed to do QA for LibreOffice
3.3.
First of all, this is what we currently have:
* a LibreOffice technical list (I'd like to have devs QA
discussion there):
Le 2010-10-06 22:56, Scott Furry a écrit :
On 06/10/10 08:19 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 19:59 -0600, Scott Furry wrote:
[snip]
I thought the original suggestion was a very funny joke and did not take
it seriously, and I thought the comments by Marc were in the same
Le 2010-10-07 03:21, Andre Schnabel a écrit :
Hi,
Von: Florian Effenbergerflo...@documentfoundation.org
Am 07.10.2010 um 08:23 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber:
Is it possible to shorten this prefix on emails from the Documentation
mailing list? [libreoffice-documentation]
someone asked to
Le 2010-10-07 06:33, henke54 a écrit :
I like the idea of one site with common usernames that puts all the
languages under one umbrella.
I also like that, that is why i have registered LibreOffice-forum.com ,
LibreOffice-forum.net , LibreOffice-forum.org , LibreOffice-forum.info ,
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 07:28 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
Just out of curiosity, are you able to register the country specific
domain even if you are not a citizen of that country? I know that with a
.ca (Canada) domain, that you agree to a testament citing your
citizenship to Canada -- legally
Le 2010-10-07 07:34, Jean Hollis Weber a écrit :
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 07:28 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
Just out of curiosity, are you able to register the country specific
domain even if you are not a citizen of that country? I know that with a
.ca (Canada) domain, that you agree to a testament
On 7 oct. 10, at 20:41, Stefan Weigel wrote:
Jean Hollis Weber schrieb:
If I have to explain to someone what LibreOffice means, it's easy:
Libre means free, as in liberty or freedom.
YES! :-)
Formerly, the office was opened, now it´s freed. ;-)
Exactly. That is indeed a very good name.
Le 07/10/2010 10:25, Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
Hi,
as we start to ramp up more infrastructure, I'd like to make
you think about what's crucially needed to do QA for LibreOffice
3.3.
First of all, this is what we currently have:
* a LibreOffice technical list (I'd like to have devs QA
On 2010-10-06 6:43 PM, Jon Hamkins wrote:
Then installations and updates can be as simple as
# yum install libreoffice
and
# yum update libreoffice
I like it... :)
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Is there an interface where users can adjust their own user preferences?
If not, is this a permanent situation, or just until more infrastructure
is in place?
I'd really like the ability to set certain user prefs - like subject
tags (I want to disable them), set my reply-to preference, etc...
On 2010-10-07 2:23 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
Is it possible to shorten this prefix on emails from the Documentation
mailing list? [libreoffice-documentation]
It would be nice if the subject tag could be optional per subscriber -
personally I think they are a total waste of space in the
On 2010-10-06 7:00 PM, Jon Hamkins wrote:
The way this works is LibO would publish delta RPMs that contain all
the differences from the previous release, and then the users yum
package manager would download the delta RPM, build the full RPM from
it, and install.
Excellent points, and there's
On 2010-10-06 7:54 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
If there were a common method to do incremental updates (linux) to
avoid too much work from the devs, this would be great. Judging by
the discussions, it looks like it could be a challenge though.
I disagree... the way I see it working is:
1. The devs
On 2010-10-07 7:16 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
If I have to explain to someone what LibreOffice means, it's easy:
Libre means free, as in liberty or freedom.
snip
It's a good name.
+10
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Le 2010-10-07 08:48, Charles Marcus a écrit :
On 2010-10-07 2:23 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
Is it possible to shorten this prefix on emails from the Documentation
mailing list? [libreoffice-documentation]
It would be nice if the subject tag could be optional per subscriber -
personally I
Hi Scott, *,
Scott Furry schrieb:
On 06/10/10 05:06 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
Hi All,
does anyone else experience frozen windows using pdf-export and
file - save as
menuentry?
file - open
doesn't start as doesn' the related icon
System:
Linux kubuntu 7.10
LibreOffice
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the insightful comments...
On 2010-10-06 5:21 PM, Scott Furry wrote:
a) AFAIK, MSIEXEC doesn't enforce any kind of standards/best
practices.
I'm not sure I see your point. That doesn't mean that whoever codes the
.msi installer cannot code it to work as I have described.
Hmmm, I kind of think that there is a need for different forums.
LibreOffice and OpenOffice are two different projects now that will start
to diverge more and more as time goes on. I am sure there will be unique
bugs and unique features for both suites.
Do you realize we are talking about
On 2010-10-07 8:54 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
In all reality, the older formats are no longer being developed and
aren't most of these offered in older versions of OpenOffice? I imagine
there isn't any need to examine and reverse engineer the code anymore?
Keeping them on the list of supported
About .au : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.au
About .ca : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ca
regards,
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On 2010-10-07 8:58 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
I think this is too extreme. A user would have to then decypher the
LibO naming convention and it would then become impossible to manage
the different language permutations of these names.
I would vote that the LibO apply the ISO naming conventions
On 2010-10-07 9:15 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
I agree, but the problem here is that the individual package managers
should be *disabling* the internal updaters in their packages, so that
they can only be updated using the package management system.
And Mozilla should provide a simple compile
Hello Sam,
Sam schrieb:
Hmmm, I kind of think that there is a need for different forums.
LibreOffice and OpenOffice are two different projects
That´s not what I understand. LibreOffice is the further development
of OpenOffice.org. It´s not a different project. Except Oracle, it´s
the same
Italo and Ryan: Thank you!
I think this work is so important that we should form a small subgroup to focus
intensely on it over the long term. I'd also like to thoroughly document the
press contacts we cultivate as well as the PR methodology used--so that I and
others can understand how this
On 2010-10-07 9:49 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
I think it is not a good idea to burden mailinglist software with a full
featured user preferences database. But i'd think about adding two more
choices:
- no mails # I'll send mails via nntp interface or from archive page
therefore I
Marc,
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:36 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-07 09:34, Benjamin Horst a écrit :
Italo and Ryan: Thank you!
I think this work is so important that we should form a small subgroup
to focus intensely on it over the long term. I'd also like to thoroughly
document the
Hi Thorsten, *,
Thorsten Behrens schrieb:
as we start to ramp up more infrastructure, I'd like to make
you think about what's crucially needed to do QA for LibreOffice
3.3.
First of all, this is what we currently have:
stretched
* a LibreOffice technical list (I'd like to have devs QA
On 10/07/2010 12:50 AM, Paul A Norman wrote:
Design: 'The Office Liberaton Front :)
I read that as Office Liberation Font.
[It is a toss up as to which font is worse: Office Liberation or
Microsoft Comic Sans.]
jonathon
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Hi Charles, *,
sending a mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org shows the possible
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Charles Marcus schrieb:
On 2010-10-07 9:49 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
I think it is not a good idea to burden mailinglist software with a
full featured user
Great work, Jean.
I'd like to help with the English side: proofing, upgrading, etc.
Send me a link or name for a document to use as a trial.
regards,
Richard.
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On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 08:57 -0600, Guy Lunardi wrote:
I don't know that we any locale group should diverge from the core
Document Foundation infrastructure. As much as possible we should keep
the information concentrated and easy to get to.
Especially for English speaking countries for
Hi there,
I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
for those who are not comfortable communicating in English. This would
help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
in the English language, and I'm sure it would for other language
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:00:15 -0300
Martín Olivera martin.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:
I like the name very much, because it enhances i18n, it is a more
universal name, and it shows that multilingualism is important and global
multicultural cooperation is possible, or better, LibreOffice is a fact
Le Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:16:17 -0400,
Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com a écrit :
Hi there,
I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing
lists for those who are not comfortable communicating in English.
This would help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are
Hi Thorsten, *
Am 07.10.2010 10:25, schrieb Thorsten Behrens:
I'd prefer if we do the 3.3 release in a somewhat lightweight
fashion, and add tools as we go (and decide that we need them) - I
know that the OpenOffice.org QA project has things like QATrack,
QUASTe, and TCM - but I wonder which
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Behrens skrev 2010-10-07 10:25:
Hi,
as we start to ramp up more infrastructure, I'd like to make
you think about what's crucially needed to do QA for LibreOffice
3.3.
First of all, this is what we currently have:
* a LibreOffice technical list (I'd like to have devs
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Per Eriksson pereriks...@openoffice.orgw
rote:
I am not sure if Mozilla offer out-of-the-box updating for Firefox on
Linux?
Yes,
Firefox, ThunderBird has options (which are turned on by default)
that let you choose whether to set them automatically (or
Hi,
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:16:17 -0400
Kohei Yoshida wrote:
for those who are not comfortable communicating in English. This would
help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
in the English language, and I'm sure it would for other language
natives.
Yeah,
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Michele Zarri m.za...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/10/10 22:21, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 14:21 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-06 2:06 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
Yes there is... use the MSI system, which will take care of things lik
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com wrote:
Hi there,
I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
for those who are not comfortable communicating in English. This would
help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not
Hi Drew, hi all,
first, I'm really looking forward to see some more activity for
LibreOffice in the US :-)
Am Donnerstag, den 07.10.2010, 12:00 -0400 schrieb Drew Jensen:
Note for instance the name of the ML that will open US-Events, because
when we get to talking about things that will happen
Hi Klaus,
please don't mind that I respond to your mail ;-)
Am Donnerstag, den 07.10.2010, 18:42 +0200 schrieb Klaus Doblmann:
Ordinary people have just
started to recognise the brand OpenOffice, it might take them years
to adapt to a new name.
Some minor correction - either OpenOffice.org,
Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (07-10-10 14:04)
I think we need something like TCM to manage manual tests of localisation.
I know that Sophie is/was working on a new version of TCM.
She should have some good ideas in this matter.
Experience in Dutch NLC (where TCM is not used that much):
People
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:26:21 +0200
Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hi Klaus,
please don't mind that I respond to your mail ;-)
Am Donnerstag, den 07.10.2010, 18:42 +0200 schrieb Klaus Doblmann:
Ordinary people have just
started to recognise the brand
Hello again,
Thanks very much, Drew, for your balanced, friendly response. And thanks
for the welcome, I'm glad to be here.
I didn't mean to sound angry or pushy in my last message, sorry if it came
across that way. I'm just keeping an eye on these developments and
responding to objections or
Hi Klaus, all!
Before I forget it: I really had to smile today when I read some of your
messages - starting with the one by Jean. So I took some and compiled a
blog posting [1]; I hope that's okay to you.
Am Donnerstag, den 07.10.2010, 19:48 +0200 schrieb Klaus Doblmann:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010
Hi Scott, *,
Scott Furry schrieb:
On 07/10/10 07:08 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
[.. Issues PDF-Export, menu, LibO 3.3 beta ..]
I ride KDE-3.5.8
here the list of installed packages:
~$ aptitude search libreoffice lobas | grep ^i
And that ones remaining:
~$ aptitude search
On 2010-10-07 12:16 PM, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
for those who are not comfortable communicating in English. This would
help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
in the English language, and
Hi Per, *,
Per Eriksson schrieb:
[..]
I am not sure if Mozilla offer out-of-the-box updating for Firefox on
Linux?
You have to fetch the linux file from Mozilla and unpack it in a folder
where you have write permissions. Call it, use it, update it, - be happy
:o))
Gruß/regards
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On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:08 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-07 12:16 PM, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
for those who are not comfortable communicating in English. This would
help especially for the native Japanese
Hi,
Do we have skilled people here who are interested in beginning with this
effort, and maybe start planning for this feature?
I've always been interested in pushing things like this forward ;-)
Best
Per
Friedrich Strohmaier skrev 2010-10-07 21:29:
Hi Per, *,
Per Eriksson schrieb:
Op 6/10/2010 20:59, Per Eriksson schreef:
Hi,
Marc Paré skrev 2010-10-06 20:39:
Le 2010-10-06 14:30, Steven Shelton a écrit :
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On 10/6/2010 2:21 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
Oh - and one thing that I'd really like to see is a simple
'incremental
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:32 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
That *may* work between Latin-based languages, but those on-line
translation services are pretty horrible at translating between CJK
and Latin, especially when going from CJK to Latin.
Hmm... Actually the Google one does a better job
The first try bounced back and that was when I noticed that the link at the
bottom of each e-mail is only hot past the plus sign following the word
discuss. I then highlighted and copy/pasted the full link into the second try.
Somebody may want to check this out.
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On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:48 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:32 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
That *may* work between Latin-based languages, but those on-line
translation services are pretty horrible at translating between CJK
and Latin, especially when going from CJK to
Okay, I went to confirm the unsub and the unsub confirmation link at the bottom
is broken there also. I'll send this before making sure that copy/paste works
there, too.
Just trying to be helpful, folks.
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Hi Klaus, all!
Before I forget it: I really had to smile today when I read some of your
messages - starting with the one by Jean. So I took some and compiled a
blog posting [1]; I hope that's okay to you.
[1]
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 12:56 -0700, Earl Melton wrote:
The first try bounced back and that was when I noticed that the link at the
bottom of each e-mail is only hot past the plus sign following the word
discuss. I then highlighted and copy/pasted the full link into the second
try.
Somebody
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 11:00 -0430, Richard wrote:
Great work, Jean.
I'd like to help with the English side: proofing, upgrading, etc.
Send me a link or name for a document to use as a trial.
Thanks, Richard!
We've got a mailing list now for documentation, so you might want to
subscribe to
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 19:20 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote:
first, I'm really looking forward to see some more activity for
LibreOffice in the US :-)
Hello Chris,
So am I.
Drew
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On 2010-10-07 3:56 PM, Earl Melton wrote:
The first try bounced back and that was when I noticed that the link at the
bottom of each e-mail is only hot past the plus sign following the word
discuss. I then highlighted and copy/pasted the full link into the second
try.
Somebody may want to
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 11:00 -0430, Richard wrote:
Great work, Jean.
I'd like to help with the English side: proofing, upgrading, etc.
Send me a link or name for a document to use as a trial.
Thanks, Richard!
Quote attributions got messed up - sorry...
Again, I have to go back to my earlier posts - Mozilla is not the
shinning example.
Their incremental updater works very well on Windows - and with the
Update Notifier extension, all updates can be made pretty much silent
and automatic.
For any
У чет, 07. 10 2010. у 16:45 -0400, Charles Marcus пише:
I just unsubbed and resubbed with no problems using the links...
Methinks your client is busted...
As this can confuse other people, and we should try to make unsubscribe
for people as easy as possible to avoid angry emails, can we just
There doesn't seem to be a link to how to change the settings to this
email list on the website. Is there a way for a subscriber to change
settings? I would like change to a digest format to cut down on the
amount of email I'm getting from this mailing list.
Dona Hertel - cocofan
On 07/10/10 03:04 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
Again, I have to go back to my earlier posts - Mozilla is not the
shinning example.
Their incremental updater works very well on Windows - and with the
Update Notifier extension, all updates can be made pretty much silent
and automatic.
True enough.
Is anybody else concerned by the fact that emails are in clear in the
list archives (not to mention easily delineated by angle brackets)?
I don't think it would take much for an enterprising hacker to compile
all the emails from the list archives.
Can we not feed the spammers easy targets,
Thorsten Behrens wrote:
I'd prefer if we do the 3.3 release in a somewhat lightweight
fashion
As I understood from an earlier message of yours, LibreOffice 3.3 will
be heavily based on OOo 3.3 and I thus agree with the lightweight testing.
the OpenOffice.org QA project has things like
On 2010-10-07 6:05 PM, Scott Furry wrote:
On 07/10/10 03:04 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
Their incremental updater works very well on Windows - and with
the Update Notifier extension, all updates can be made pretty much
silent and automatic.
True enough. But this feature is not available to
On 07/10/10 04:56 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:24 -0700, Andy Brown wrote:
On Thu Oct 07 2010 15:18:23 GMT-0700 (PDT) Scott Furry wrote:
Is anybody else concerned by the fact that emails are in clear in the
list archives (not to mention easily delineated by angle
On Thu Oct 07 2010 16:04:38 GMT-0700 (PDT) Scott Furry wrote:
I'm sorry Andy, what warnings are you talking about.
Clicking on the subscribe link from the site window just brings up an
email client window.
And the site privacy statement doesn't given state anything specific
about forum
On 10/07/2010 02:57 PM, Guy Lunardi wrote:
I don't know that we any locale group should diverge from the core
Document Foundation infrastructure. As much as possible we should keep
the information concentrated and easy to get to.
Three conflicting interests here:
* The US Market;
* The
On 07/10/10 05:00 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-10-07 6:05 PM, Scott Furry wrote:
On 07/10/10 03:04 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:
Their incremental updater works very well on Windows - and with
the Update Notifier extension, all updates can be made pretty much
silent and automatic.
True
Hi,
I have been noticing now for two days that LiBO opens from scratch,
even after re-boots, very quickly compared to my even recent
experiences with OOO.
Has this been enhanced?
If so then it is a real feature point as OOO used to take ages to open
sometimes.
Paul
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Le 2010-10-07 19:51, jonathon a écrit :
On 10/07/2010 02:57 PM, Guy Lunardi wrote:
I don't know that we any locale group should diverge from the core
Document Foundation infrastructure. As much as possible we should keep
the information concentrated and easy to get to.
Three conflicting
Andrea Pescetti, 07-10-2010 19:46:
Thorsten Behrens wrote:
I'd prefer if we do the 3.3 release in a somewhat lightweight
fashion
As I understood from an earlier message of yours, LibreOffice 3.3 will
be heavily based on OOo 3.3 and I thus agree with the lightweight
testing.
+1
the
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