Well, the first person to tell me he's absolutely getting one (rather
than waiting to see one in person) is my 70+yr old father. Which
doesn't surprise me, since he's an early adaptor of all things
technological (he has the first generation iPhone, and we were the first
people I knew to get a VCR
I think Apple was really smart to leverage everything they created
with the iPhone. Especially the App Store. I think it will be huge.
I think the simple change in form factor and screen size will create
a whole new use case that doesn't exist yet: casual computing. You
CAN put a laptop in your
While Apple may have shown the way for the music business to stay
alive, look at the price we pay. We _have_ to use iTunes to watch
any video we purchase through the iTunes Store. We put up with the
DRM in iTunes. Apple denied Google their VOIP app due to duplication
of functionality. Will
Best assessment of what the iPad really represents why its critics
have gotten it precisely wrong yet again:
http://www.macworld.com/article/146038/2010/01/ipad_future_shock.html
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The issue I have with this line of thinking is that Apple has already
opened Pandora's Box on the iPad. With iWork, people will will
create content and they'll want to share that content. How do you
share anything from one iPad to another? Are we just going to fall
back to a cloud sharing
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction, based on a
few surprising data points I've already gathered and an intuition:
The iPad is going to make a big splash with older people.
Grandmothers and grandfathers, retired people, older folks that a
desktop or laptop has up until now
Jim,
My 70+ parents are going to order one! :-)
Kevin
On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jim Leftwich wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction, based on a
few surprising data points I've already gathered and an intuition:
The iPad is going to make a big splash with older
Jim,
Great call. I have been trying to figure out the right thing to buy my
very intelligent, computer-free aunt who is 88 years old and lives in
the outbacks of Minnesota.
(As a side note - she and her husband sold and repaired business
equipment and typewriters - right about the time
The response to Swartz's post that comes to mind for me is to ask
what the iPod and iTunes have done for the greater music market,
while still holding onto to a great deal of its comprehensive control.
Scott
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Neil Cadsawan n...@cadsawan.net wrote:
Weird that my
Really interesting chat, here's my input...
From a design point of view it does look like a giant iPhone although
with a much fatter, uglier border around the outside. Not being able
to run multiple apps at the same time is a minus point; not being
able to chat online and browse the web will
A few other random thoughts on the iPad:
- First off, to get a sense of the interactions you need to watch the video:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/
(watching this changed the way I view the product...even though there is a lot
of back-slapping going on)
- Starting with 100K+ software apps
Luke, your spot on. I'll even take it one step further and say that
Apple should have named it the iKid. I see this as the perfect device
for my son (albeit, he's barely 2) and my nieces and nephews who are
elementary age and beyond. Maybe it could also have been named
iFamily, this isn't
Was I the only person in the world who was expecting it to be the
MacBook Air with a touchscreen and no keyboard?
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On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:08 PM, graham.s...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume the durability of it will be better tha the iPhone screen
especially as, like other laptops/netbooks it doesn't have a fold
down screen to protect it.
Graham,
I don't understand. The durability of the iPhone screen is
How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but have
many friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is
deadly.
I won't denigrate the feature set because I am not the intended
audience. For business travel, I need all my design apps and I need
them
I think one issue is that it is not widescreen. If it about consuming media
shouldn't the device be wide screen for movies.
Is it a good user experiance watching a movie on a narrow screen?
Also I can not just plug in devices into the USB.
And there is the issue of DRM. Especially with apple
I've dropped mine several times, but it doesn't seem the uses of the
iPad are exactly matched with the iPhone -
running to the taxi, for instance. Of course it's durability is a
concern, and may prove to be a major
shortcoming, but I think so much of the discussion seems to be around
it being in
everything is widescreen if you adjust the height (and put controls
there).
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:06 AM, James Page jamesp...@gmail.com wrote:
I think one issue is that it is not widescreen. If it about
consuming media
shouldn't the device be wide screen for movies.
See, I'd love to be in a position where my market share and audience
obliged us to look at my productions in this way ;)
I've maintained (or tried) to keep this perspective on Google Wave, for example.
To go with single user examples, my fiancee immediately said upon
watching it My mom would be
I think ipad is going to be wonderful for graphic application. I would
love to see omnigraffle on this, it should make the designing much
more fun - could be just me. (I know mouse offers greater precision
but that can be supported with software).
Also, I think for other elements like video
As someone's wife, I agree. But my husband would use it the same way I
would... updating blog/Facebook or reading email in front of the TV,
watching a movie on the road, looking up a recipe in the kitchen,
surfing the web anywhere. Apple deliberately placed it between the
iPhone and a real
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Will Evans wrote:
How often have you dropped your iPhone? I personally haven't, but have many
friends that have gone through 2, 3, even 4 - a drop from 4' is deadly.
Enough that I stopped counting. I've dropped it face down on a concrete floor a
couple times
Overall, a nice and compelling (esp. for some applications) technology
package, but perhaps not groundbreaking at the level all the hype might have
promised.
Top things I was surprised/disappointed it does not include (some already
mentioned):
1. Forward-facing still/video camera (would have
my wife's husband is the same way but he doesn't use recipes to cook. he wings
it :)
For those interested, I wrote up an expanded set of thoughts on the market,
interactions, and design of the iPad at:
http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?990
thanks~
On Jan 28, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Tracy Boyington
I love the fact that it's larger multi-touch device. I think that Apple has
nailed the speed of interaction with the user's input. (On other devices,
the lag of device touch interaction with my interaction drives me crazy.)
I wish we could see more of John Elias and Wayne Westerman's hand in
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Sean Gerety wrote:
And kudos to Jonathan Ive. He's the best thing that ever happened to Apple.
Um, aside from that guy, uh, what's his name... oh, Steve!
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned HTML5 video. People are just too worried
about Flash.
On 28 January 2010 16:21, Jack Moffett jackmoff...@mac.com wrote:
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Sean Gerety wrote:
And kudos to Jonathan Ive. He's the best thing that ever happened to
Apple.
Um, aside
I've heard a few complaints about the size of the border.. come on folks!
You need an area to hold the thing without accidentally clicking stuff on
the edges of the screen. A small border would be a usability disaster for
the iPad.
- Loren
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Rafael Schouchana
Basically I think it may be an awesome new form of computing, but have
serious doubts that it's the ultimate e-book product.
- Loren
This is at the core of my issue regarding the kindle, and why I don't have
one. I have little use for yet another dedicated device that I have to lug
Apple is planting itself in the future. Like Wayne Gretzky says, go
to where the puck is
going to be. And the future is HTML 5. Notice how Youtube now
supports HTML 5 too.
If you continue to coddle old technology, we won't be forced to build
forward.
I think this is an intentional, good move
If this thing has any educational apps, I would probably buy one for
my 3 year old (I mean, of course I would use it too ;) Touch is a
natural interface that he would have no problems with. Currently he
does know how to use a mouse, but clicking the buttons and keeping
the pointer in the same
One thing that haven't seen anyone here yet discuss is the larger
picture of the OS and app economy. While I mused about this
situation, Aaron Swartz has a good write up about it:
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One thing that haven't seen anyone here yet discuss is the larger
picture of the OS and app economy. While I mused about this
situation, Aaron Swartz has a good write up about
its also worth noting that while the market may be narrower than say an
iPhone or iPod, the OEM potential is huge.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Luke Wroblewski l...@lukew.com wrote:
Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all
My ten cents ...
HP having been saying that this year is the year of the tablet, and I
think they're right. However, there are a few things about the iPad
that make me keep looking:
1. DRM; I want control over my content. iTunes sucks; in Europe
it sucks even more.
2. price; my guess is
This would be great for my 18 month daughter to play with (unless she
dribbles over it - is it splashproof?). I can see it being a big
thing in education
Just out of left field, this would have been nice if they could have
worked like that 'siftables' thing were iPads in proximity begin to
Weird that my last post got munged somehow...
In any case, I was pointing out a post by Aaron Swartz:
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/ipad and a post on Fast Company:
http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/jamais-cascio/open-future/iworry
With the iPhone OS being a closed system, this could be
And even that is going to depend on what work is. The huge majority
of what I do on a daily basis could be accomplished via Safari,
Calendar, Mail, and iWork.
I bought an Aspire One netbook to supplant my Nokia N800; this will
replace that in my travel arsenal.
-- Jim
Via my iPhone
With so much going on here for the iPad we must look at the aspect of
what went into deciding making a product like this? What I meant was
that, did we address in our discussions the goals this product was
supposed to have met? Of course, we will not know what goals Steve
had in his mind when he
Agree that's its a great platform for trying out a lot of new interactions. I
pulled out the ones Apple showed off in their keynote into a video and text
overview: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?991
Some really interesting ideas emerge from seeing these examples in action~
On Jan 27, 2010,
Since no one has brought it up yet... I'll go.
Overall what was expected. The big innovation for me is all this stuff
integrated in one simple package. Which is kind of being glossed over in the
press. and the price point -very low.
-liked the rebuilt apple apps. calendar contacts are nicely
I'll say it: the name is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Anyone with a research or marketing degree had to take a linguistics
course, where you learned that you never name a product with something
that is only one to two letter/sound/symbol away from any other
another current product.
'iPad' is
You think *that* is what is wrong with the name?!
Think feminine hygiene and repeat the product name to yourself.
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IMHO the iPad is so bad compared to some of the existing, as well as
recently announced, Tablet PCs that it's not even worth discussing.
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I pictured a gal from Boston as Steve's secretary, talking about an iPaaad a
few years ago, and Steve getting his first accent-inspired product idea...
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On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Jonathan S. Knoll wrote:
You think
OK, so aside from the name...
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No Flash = no streaming porn = pointless.
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OK, so aside from the name...
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Luke,
I like your assessment. A few additional points:
- how well the iPad will work as an ebook reader with a glossy, reflective
screen - particularly outdoors or in natural lighting - is a concern. A
removable anti-glare cover/film might be a good addition;
- the choice of separate iPod iTunes
The iPad human interface guidelines are an interesting read to
consider how we might create and alter interaction designs for the
device. Guidelines include 'Add Physicality and Heightened
Realism', 'Flatten Your Information Hierarchy', and 'Restrict
Complexity in Modal Tasks.'
You can download
Good points Luke, Steve.
The other thing is that the iPad is not a stand-alone product. It's
still an accessory to a Mac. With only 64GB of space, you'll fill
that up quickly. You still need a Mac (or PC) for the iPad to sync
with.
To expound on Luke's question of how does it work with an
Realising that the iPhone also has an iPod app for music/etc. So I recant my
earlier complaint about that point.
2010/1/28 Neil Cadsawan n...@cadsawan.net
Good points Luke, Steve.
The other thing is that the iPad is not a stand-alone product. It's
still an accessory to a Mac. With only
To help this discussion out, the iPad specs:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ and features:
http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/ .
~ yoni
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Steve Baty steveb...@gmail.com wrote:
Realising that the iPhone also has an iPod app for music/etc. So I recant
my
Yes, the name is terrible. I'm waiting for them to come out with an
even bigger version (ala Kindle DX) -- they can call it the
Max-iPad.
And yes, the comment about the lack of porn for it should be taken
very, very seriously. Porn always drives new technology, if only
because nobody has figured
First, a few things that I'm very excited about with this device:
* The potential for apps like the demoed N.Y. Times app. BUT -- if
every publisher has to develop their own version of this, I view it
as a failure. I'm hoping Apple steps up here with a wrapper that
independent publishers can take
Oh, and about the pornography point: there *are* porn sites using
HTML5 video capabilities to serve porn to iPhones right now. I think
we can assume that porn suppliers will support this device as well.
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Agree with the comments above.
The exciting new possibilities with this device are in the hardware,
with the notable exception of the missing cameras for obvious video
conferencing capabilities. The device is currently quite squarely
focused on media *consumption*.
Given the capabilities of the
I'm new to the list. I've been looking at the details on the iPad and felt
compelled to reply to this thread.
Naming issues aside (I think Twitter's trending topics may decide someone's
job fate at Apple tonight), I'm a little puzzled by the thing. In general,
I'm not sure exactly how to
@ Victor Lombardi - Could you be kind enough to share the human
interface guidelines with the rest of us. I REALLY want to pick
their brains on this one..
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I think its pretty cool. The name is fine... however expected and
undramatic.
As for the ap and iphone OS and interface working on a pc platform -
we will have to play and watch as it grows and evolves. I do think we
are seeing the next successful model of software distribution with the
I'm still a bit perplexed as to where the device really fits in
someone's workflow/day. Jobs noted that it split the difference
between a laptop and a smartphone and filled that gap. Is there
really a big enough gap there to justify buying another device? I'll
be interested to see how the market
In looking at the product shots at the bottom of
http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/, I'm really wondering about the
interactions of using the keyboards in the both the dock and in the
case - as folded into a laptop-like configuration with virtual
keyboard.
With the keyboard dock, or even a
It doesn't replace my phone, and it doesn't replace my computer, so
the only need that I see it fitting for me is the e-reader that I
don't currently have (and don't really see a need for yet either).
So unless it can do eBooks better than the Kindle or Nook, I really
don't see the point. If I
I keep seeing a control surface when I look at the iPad. The whole
tablet computer idea is meh for me, but I'm imagining it as a soft
console audio mixing board for a musician, or displaying a couple of
virtual turntables for a DJ. Or, more in my line of work, a
touchscreen console for radio
To me this is the market for this device. My wife is exactly the same, she
surfs the Web, reads blogs, watches TV movies, and looks at photos on her
Macbook. This is a couch device, a bedroom device (don't read that the wrong
way), a kitchen device (swivel it to cook from a recipe). All places
i like this thinking. ever see this?
http://gas2.org/2009/06/09/electric-superbike-uses-iphone-for-its-dashboard/
On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Michael Micheletti wrote:
I keep seeing a control surface when I look at the iPad. The whole
tablet computer idea is meh for me, but I'm imagining it
Other conversations that I've been having today revolve around
whether or not this could be an introduction of slow design into the
computing world. Best described here:
http://www.good.is/post/hurry-up-and-wait/
Could be. I too see this as more of a book or newspaper replacement
than a laptop
If multi-touch is of interest to you then the iPad is a dream come
true. As a designer having access to an affordable and capable
computing device with a 10 multitouch screen is a dream come true!
That aside I think that eBooks and everything else promoted is great
but I think Robert Fabricant
I think these observations are on track - what people's wives need ie
what *most
*people do in terms of computing.
Computing on a mass scale as envisioned by ubiquitous computing a few
years ago was pointless.
Fridges that track when you are out of milk etc...light bulbs that run
software inside
I agree with the casual-home-device assessment. And not necessarily
targeting techies, but maybe those who have been admiring Apple from
afar but whose tech use was too casual to warrant purchasing an
iPhone/Macbook. My friends have mixed reviews of the device, but my
parents are stoked. They want
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