Re: [IxDA Discuss] [ixda] horizontal log in fields on web apps

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Livingstone
Sunandini, It has a usability of 3.7 Megasnafus. :p How do you find it compared to other login experiences? Do you think it better or worse than these? Do yo think that having the password field beside or underneath the username field makes a significant difference? Will one option negatively

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What do your prototypes look like?

2008-06-03 Thread Oleg Krupnov
I am of course aware that the choice hi-fi vs. lo-fi prototype depends on the audience. I just wanted to know what (hi-fi or lo-fi) is more frequent and common in practice. I've had a discussion with a professional and he claimed that for his team and process, lo-fi prototypes are not

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [ixda] horizontal log in fields on web apps

2008-06-03 Thread Chauncey Wilson
Vertical stacking is useful for easy comparisons between two items. The horizontal approach makes that a bit harder since you have: Label: [] Label: [X] Versus Label: [] Label: [] or Label:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What do your prototypes look like?

2008-06-03 Thread Fred Beecher
Hi Oleg, On 6/3/08, Oleg Krupnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a discussion with a professional and he claimed that for his team and process, lo-fi prototypes are not practical. They a) scare the customer b) too different from the final product look so that the customer's opinion may

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread Dante Murphy
Collaboration, communication, and iteration. In the same way that a single person's brain can simultaneously work on an engineering and an aesthetic problem, so can two people work together in the same way. Only the communication is externalized; this may lead to some inefficiency (compared to a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What do your prototypes look like?

2008-06-03 Thread Oleg Krupnov
Fred, thanks for the elaborate answer! Fred Beecher wrote: You're not looking for the customer's opinion during early-stage prototyping. You're trying to find out if the interaction design IA works or not, which is something you can observe during testing. If you're doing later stage

[IxDA Discuss] give content to get community

2008-06-03 Thread Jeff Gimzek
hey ixdas, I am looking for sites that /require/ user participation in order to have /access/ to the site and it's community and it's content. A lot of site require registration, or a fee, but can you think of any that require your donation of time, effort and/or creativity to be part

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Kristopher Kinlen
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/06/02/nokia-vp-video-calling-not-successful-because-it-turns-you-ugly/ Nokia says it makes you ugly! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29620

Re: [IxDA Discuss] give content to get community

2008-06-03 Thread Jennifer Berk
Try http://www.critters.org/ - massive online writing critique group. Many critique groups come and go, usually failing because of poor organization and member apathy / lack of participation. Critters has successfully solved the first problem by lots of automation :-) and the second by requiring

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread pauric
Andrei: How does the field of software and interface design achieve the same level of design Could you explain why you see this as innovative? It has less space than a car just as dangerous as a bike A skidoo on wheels is somehow innovation? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Peyush Agarwal
Haha now THAT was unexpected. I guess I must be in the minority who are a. pretty confident they're not ugly, and b. don't care if others disagree :) I think there is some truth to the unflattering wide-angle view one gets on cellphones at less than arm's distance, though I'm not convinced it's

[IxDA Discuss] job:: senior IxD/san diego, california(Intuit) / FTE

2008-06-03 Thread Falkenburg, Nancy
contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORIGINAL POSTING: June 6th, 2008 COMPANY NAME: Intuit JOB LOCATION: San Diego, California JOB TITLE: Senior

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Expense and income tracking apps?

2008-06-03 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
And the winner is ... http://pulseapp.com/ It's squeaky clean, does exactly what I needed, is free (but shouldn't be), imports projects and clients from Basecamp so no duplicate work is required, and is probably the best app I've used in months. Major kudos to Clear Function (the designers).

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Expense and income tracking apps?

2008-06-03 Thread Cindy Alvarez
Mint is definitely free. They use my company (Yodlee)'s technology but they've built a much better skin on top. Cindy On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Jeff Gimzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, i thought mint was free... where is this $30 request ? On May 30, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Robert

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Kristopher Kinlen
Considering the popularity of the evil bluetooth headset, maybe we don't like holding the phone up. Video phones would require you to not only hold the phone, but also hold it at a certain distance and in a specific area with a specific angle so as to frame your face in the camera. Maybe we will

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM, pauric wrote: Could you explain why you see this as innovative? It has less space than a car just as dangerous as a bike With a setup like that, what would the point of discussion? I personally dislike David Carson's type of graphic design and think it's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Favorite article on design research

2008-06-03 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 2, 2008, at 7:23 PM, David Malouf wrote: If you had to read 1 article on design research which one would it be? I prefer books or articles that act as research themselves over those which describe research methods. I like to connect the dots myself. To that end, here's one of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread pauric
Thanks Andrei, graphic design aside let me re-phrase my question; Could you spell out why you felt this design was so innovative? thanks - pauric . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29740

[IxDA Discuss] Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

2008-06-03 Thread Benjamin Ho
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on companies for training on the MS Expression Blend application? I've taken a look at the online video tutorial on lynda.com and the MS Expression site, but they don't really have exercises I can follow along. I liked how Axure.com gave

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:53 PM, pauric wrote: Thanks Andrei, graphic design aside let me re-phrase my question; Could you spell out why you felt this design was so innovative? Lots of reasons. I used to own a BMW R1200C, or what some people called the Bond Bike since it appeared in a Bond

[IxDA Discuss] How to evaluate long-term engagement

2008-06-03 Thread Dante Murphy
Does anyone know of any methodologies or case studies for evaluating (or predicting) long-term engagement? Any specific application to social networking sites would be great, but analogous examples from video games, enterprise software, or whatever else are welcome. Most of my testing experience

[IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread pauric
Thanks Andrei, I understand the personal motivation behind why someone might buy such a vehicle. Its not my intention to ask you to justify your interest in it. My question is still unanswered so let me turn it around. I see products that blindside markets, aka 'disrupters', as innovative; e.g.

[IxDA Discuss] Design Documentation in a Web 2.0 world

2008-06-03 Thread Helen Killingbeck
Question: For those who have established GUI design documentation in a Web 1 corporate world, how have you handled implementing Web 2 design elements in your documentation? Thanks Helen Welcome to the Interaction Design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [ixda] horizontal log in fields on web apps

2008-06-03 Thread Bob Sampson
I think a major contributor to usability in fields like that are watermarks in the textboxes to make them stand out more. Kind of like the Search Archives... searchbox on this ixda site in the rightnav. I think nowadays you can even dump the labels and put them right in the textboxes. [Email

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [ixda] horizontal log in fields on web apps

2008-06-03 Thread vlad
This is a very good question, and a very good point from Chauncey, thanks! I actually am working on a redesign right now... The old site featured a horizontal login form. One of my latest modifications was to switch to vertical, because ... well, horizontal forms look weird. But Chauncey, your

[IxDA Discuss] How to make links look like links?

2008-06-03 Thread Huang, Yong
Hello, folks, We are currently working on an informational website, some pages of which contain a large amount of mixed text and links. We were discussing how to make links look like links among plain text. It will be messy if we blue underscore all links... We talked about hover underscore. I

[IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Alla Zollers
Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the product people and developers like to refer to our users as unsophisticated (a euphemism for dumb). My understanding of the majority of our users is that they are generally of a lower socio-economic level and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Jerome Ryckborst
Has anyone else noticed that pre-teen kids are less self-conscious or more comfortable with video cameras, and also more aware of the remote/asynchronous audience? I've seen some kids who, when the camera's on, do a great job of including the remote viewer along with those physically present.

[IxDA Discuss] (JOB) User Researcher-Seattle-Recruiter Contract or Direct

2008-06-03 Thread Ryan Lum
Downtown Seattle 18 Staff 5 Contractors young company with deep pockets plan to double in size within two years. Open air environment great window views of the Puget Sound. Excellent group of people. Huge client list and they are turning down business. Whats nice about it is they can pick and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

2008-06-03 Thread Pace Koenig
http://totaltraining.com/prod/microsoft/expression.asp could be a good option. You can preview the first part of their tutorials with a guest pass as well, for what it's worth. - Pace Koenig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Ho

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

2008-06-03 Thread David Fitzgerald
Our company does Expression training. However, our audience is either interactive companies we partner with or ISV/Enterprises who have a creative department with multiple designers. We customize our curriculum around their specific needs rather than a boilerplate agenda. Therefore the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

2008-06-03 Thread David Fitzgerald
Our company does Expression training. However, our audience is either interactive companies we partner with or ISV/Enterprises who have a creative department with multiple designers. We customize our curriculum around their specific needs rather than a boilerplate agenda. Therefore the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] give content to get community

2008-06-03 Thread Michael Micheletti
On 6/3/08, Jeff Gimzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of site require registration, or a fee, but can you think of any that require your donation of time, effort and/or creativity to be part of the community? Some variant of this is common in the Anime community. You get to download something

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Jeff Gimzek
web-challenged ? seriously though, try 'novice' personas almost always help, IMHO jd On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Alla Zollers wrote: Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the product people and developers like to refer to our users as

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Catriona Lohan-Conway
this is an interesting option - depends on the context ;-) http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1418715 There are many different types of computer users out there; here is a list of the better known ones and descriptions on each. Joe Sixpack - Owns a computer, but doesn't use it very

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to make links look like links?

2008-06-03 Thread Katie Albers
It's been my experience that the best (that is to say, most readily identified by users and least subject to confusion with other text) way to distinguish a link among text is to underline it. I don't really see It looks messy as a legitimate design concern if the goal is to provide

[IxDA Discuss] Android

2008-06-03 Thread kishore rj
I like to know about Android operating system in deep.can anyone out there explain me in brief which would favour me in implementing my ideas about mobile systems Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Sarah Kampman
There's nothing necessarily wrong with the term unsophisticated, though new or novice might be more neutral. However, it sounds as if the developers product folks in your organization have a specific perception of the typical end-user that no new phrase is going to change. If it's important to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Favorite article on design research

2008-06-03 Thread Eduardo Loureiro
What comes to mind is the Generative Tools for Context Mapping: Tuning the Tools of authors Pieter Jan and Elizabeth Sanders. But there are other equally interesting of which came this: http://www.maketools.com/ -- Eduardo Loureiro Designer de interação / Arquiteto de informação

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Katie Albers
Naive? It's used fairly often in a variety of contexts to describe any group of people who are unacquainted with the basics of whatever you are discussing. At 11:15 AM -0700 6/3/08, Alla Zollers wrote: Hi Everyone -- I am having a bit of a terminology problem within my company. Most of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Becky Reed
Alla, We go by the factors that contribute to the understanding and usage of our products (interviewing for personas, measuring in usability testing, etc.) to *hopefully* avoid the negative labeling: 1. Levels of technical literacy (both web and computer - separately) 2. Literacy level (reading

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to make links look like links?

2008-06-03 Thread Juan Lanus
As I read this, and without having tried it ... a suggestion. Well, some users are more prone to mousing than others, for example kids. The idea is to set the content, if possible, in a container (for example, a div). Then to highlight all the links when the user is mousing over the container, all

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Tim Goldsmith
I have used 'novice' --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Katie Albers lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Katie Albers lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users To: Alla Zollers lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 4:03 PM Naive? It's used

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Favorite article on design research

2008-06-03 Thread Itamar Medeiros
One of my recent favorites: Three-in-One User Study for Focused Collaboration, by Turkka K. Keinonen (National University of Singapore, Singapore), Vesa Jääskö (Vesavisio, Helsinki, Finland), Tuuli M. Mattelmäki (University of Art and Design Helsinki, Helsinki, Finland): This article introduces a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to make links look like links?

2008-06-03 Thread Nathanael Boehm
It shouldn't just be colour contrast but also brightness contrast. Using HSB instead of RGB mode is useful for this. I recently put together a 12 hue x 4 brightness levels (48 colours in total) scheme for a site that heavily relies on colour/contrast as an aid for identifying screens and screen

Re: [IxDA Discuss] unsophisticated users

2008-06-03 Thread Itamar Medeiros
I personally think that, in the end of the day, is not just about just being politically correct when talking about the users (well... being respectful and polite is always nice!), but also about communicating clearly their background, needs and intentions. I'd go with Becky checklist to start,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [ixda] horizontal log in fields on web apps

2008-06-03 Thread Nathanael Boehm
Just keep in mind accessibility too if you're going to be putting the visual label inside the form field as a value attribute instead of a label before the field, as well as issues when no JS enabled/supported. Not a major problem, but just make you consider those two requirements ... it can be

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

2008-06-03 Thread dave malouf
I have struggled getting trained in Blend. I have learned some lessons a long the way. The BIGGEST lesson I have learned is that to use Blend you have to think like a programmer and you have to realize that any weeklong training private or public is NOT enough. You have to invest in a lot of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder

2008-06-03 Thread pauric
Forgive me Andrei before you stop using your prius you should know that the Spyder gets 30mph and it isnt the first 3 wheel vehicle on the market by a long shot... you should check out the Messerschmitt KR175 Now, at the engineering level. The link you gave is nothing more than marketing blurb.

[IxDA Discuss] Labels inside Text fields (was: horizontal log in fields on web apps)

2008-06-03 Thread Pankaj Chawla
On 6/4/08, Nathanael Boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just keep in mind accessibility too if you're going to be putting the visual label inside the form field as a value attribute instead of a label before the field, as well as issues when no JS enabled/supported. Not a major problem, but just

[IxDA Discuss] Profile vs. Persona

2008-06-03 Thread oliver green
Hi All, Is there a difference between the term profile and persona? Thanks, Oliver Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Any suggestions for training on MS Expression Blend?

2008-06-03 Thread Josh Santangelo
If you buy the Expression Suite, it comes with a DVD of the Total Training videos. However, they are updating Blend with new features every couple of months now, so I'm not sure how relevant video training is. Blend is a weird beast, but it's very powerful and getting better all the time. On