Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
You might enjoy this: an example of Tweet-noir - http://stilgherrian.com/sydney/gonzo-twitter-1-saturday-evening-in-newtown/ 2008/10/28 live [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wicked sense of wordplay? Ukelele? I guess Bill DeRouchey! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
If we have captured their acknowledgement, then we have at least some proof that it was seen. Which, unfortunately, shows that the intent isn't for it to be useful, but to cover the company's backside. That's why I feel it is important for both UI/IxD and legal depts. to think about their TCs like any other design problem, starting with the intention of what they hope to achieve. Like I said, if it's just to cover the company legally, it's irrelevant whether people read or see them or not - you might as well have a black box agree to whatever is in here before you can continue. It's a real problem that starts way outside the designers or the company. For my part I feel a service design approach to the entire experience is in order to really re-think the process. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
That's awesome! Also, it should have a timer. Calculate how long it would actually take to read and understand the terms and conditions and then prevent the user from proceeding before that time has elapsed. 45 minutes ought to do it. ;-) // jeff Santiago wrote: 1. Place a link or button labeled I read the Terms Conditions at the bottom of the terms... 2..leading to a multiple choice test on legal issues, that users must pass in order to continue. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
If I remember correctly, when I got my new credit card with Virgin Money, they had a TC I had to sign, but they also had a human version, which I actually read! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Ah, but the question was (I think) whether they have great interactions even if they don't have great visual design. I have a feeling that this is a self-selecting process, though. I think most companies who care about having great interaction design would also have at least pretty good and probably great visual design. The reverse isn't true though - there are plenty of things that look great but the interaction is rubbish – almost all consumer electronics by Sony, for example. Best, Andy On 27 Oct 2008, at 17:31, allison wrote: Here are things in my apartment that I interact with that do not really have (great) visual designs: Microwave Digital display on my stove DVR/cable menu DVD/VHS player TV menu iPod - maybe the one exception...but really it's mostly text mp3 player alarm clock Here's stuff at work: Printer/Copy machine IP phone Vending machine Car radio (on the way to work) Badge security scanner (actually only consists of a dual LED, dual sound response, and a scanner, but everyone who's never used it before always sets it off b/c you have to wait 2 seconds before going through the gate.) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
If I remember correctly, when I got my new credit card with Virgin Money, they had a TC I had to sign, but they also had a human version, which I actually read! If I think of more personal services, such as getting a home loan (anyone still get one of those these days?!) or a pension, drafting a will, or some other kind of service involving a real person advising you, they would take you through the key points of this and explain them to you in plain language. Sometimes you even have to sign or initial each page. Not that I'd want to click Accept for a five page TC, but the principle is there that someone explains the key points to you and you can delve deeper if you like. Given that the entire thing can have hyperlinks, it would seem possible to make a clear set of TCs that are readable, but linking to the full legal mumbo jumbo text, albeit with the probably necessary proviso of shirking responsibility for the easy to read version. That kind of multiple layering of information is exactly what interactive media excel at. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
The Phone Book project in the UK (http://www.the-phone-book.com) do a great project on short text writing. The winner one year was titled Everything I Had to Say the Day You Died. The rest of story was On 27 Oct 2008, at 20:41, Andreas Ringdal wrote: Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words. The result: For sale: baby shoes, never used. Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
WellI am glad I brought up the topic... However, I am still looking for samples. @ Andy Polaine %u2013 If I remember correctly, even though Apple brings up another window to click Agree or not to, you still do not have to reach the bottom of the TC for the window to open. @ Jay Morgan %u2013 Your 3 scenarios match my first 3 sketched out scenarios. My concern is that because this is not the norm, people are not going to know to scroll to the bottom to see the call to action. This leads to putting some type of instructional text somewhere explaining the task. This of course is just adding to the problem (adding more %u201Cnoise%u201D to the page/section). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams
Wendy, Maybe it was my old IA Summit presentation about adding UX steps to RUP? In the last part of that presentation I show how other companies than mine did that, showing their diagrams and some annotations. The slides are up at slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/pboersma/stux-ia-summit-2005-peter-boersma/ Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens erpdesigner Verzonden: ma 10/27/2008 6:53 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: [IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams I know that somebody has posted UCD processes diagrams on the web but can't find in the archive where they are posted. Any ideas? -Wendy Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
@ Andy Polaine %u2013 If I remember correctly, even though Apple brings up another window to click Agree or not to, you still do not have to reach the bottom of the TC for the window to open. Yes, that's right. But it does force an Accept or Don't Accept decision before you can go any further - I find it a good balance of the two. Forcing users to scroll to the bottom is pointless because, as a few have pointed out, you can't prove or show or be sure that someone has actually read the text anyway. You can only prove/ensure the click. Scrolling to the bottom is in some ways a worse solution because it's uncommon (and irritating) and people might miss it and just bomb out. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Looking for Usability Partner in Russian and Singapore
Hi there, We have a possible new project where we need to run some user testing in Russia and Singapore. If you are interested in working with us please call me on the number below or drop me an email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Joe Leech -- * joeleech.net +447905 33 4163 Usability, user experience, IA accessibility. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
I am certainly not trying to make a case that it is a good idea to force someone to scroll to the bottom to accept the TC. I fully agree there are better ways to handle this. And I also like the Apple way of doing it. However, the company is mandating that %u201Cthe user must reach the end of the TC before they can accept them%u201D. They fully understand that this does not mean that just because a person has gotten to the end of the TCs that they have read any of it. They fully understand that this is not common practice/behavior. Yet they are insisting on this point. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams
Buy Dan Brown's Communicating Design - it will get you on your way. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34912 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel
@ Andy. I am currently experiencing exactly this terminology problem from a previous form someone made for our Newsletter management and the system also by default used ZipCode for Country and that led to problems, when you want to sort data and the list only allows equal, greater than, etc. for ZipCode, because it assumes the field is numerical. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
2 thoughts on the 140char count: 1. It has actually improved my writing and worsened my spelling. 2. Ya know, you can write across multiple tweets. Cindy, great story. Ambient Intimacy is a great way of shoring up long distance relationships for sure. I guess Billy D or Rusty U. -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34682 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
I have multiple uses for Twitter. Depending on the context (there's that word again) one or several of those uses come into play at a given time. Stay in touch with friends and colleagues distributed around the world: Will, Dan and Dave have all discussed ambient intimacy. The casual contact and conversations that we have with people in our physical communities is difficult to have or maintain when physically removed by great distances. Twitter's near real-time / asynchronous design facilitates that in a convenient manner. Live-tweet entire conferences (most recently IDEA 2008) and take questions from a distributed audience: Almost everyone whom I have seen since returning from IDEA - and who follows me on Twitter - has thanked me for my conference updates. A few even said they felt like they had attended the conference even though they weren't there(!). I received numerous e-mails and Twitter messages from friends, colleagues and strangers who found it valuable, too. I know that Whitney has had a similar experience. I could take notes selfishly, but more people learning encourages better design. Save time: Because Twitter ties in to e-mail, Web and mobile - and I may not know which medium is the best way to reach someone at a given moment in time - a message sent via Twitter is a far more effective and less time-consuming way to get in touch, especially when time is a factor. Learn about and share local, national and international events: News about local meetups,conferences and social events are often disseminated via Twitter. At a recent UX Irregulars meetup when Don Turnbull was in town, one of the newcomers told me he learned of it 15 minutes before the event and showed up. He wouldn't have known about it otherwise. Travel information: Twitter is invaluable for travellers. Multiple people at home and abroad - or others who are in transit - can send/receive updates on my status, flight delay information, changes in plans, directions, recommendations, etc no matter which city I am in or en route to. Some of you have heard one of my best/worst travel stories in which twitter plays an important role (too long to recount here). A friend tells me she thinks it is the single best use of Twitter she has ever seen. Timely news: Several of us on Twitter documented and shared information after an industrial accident in August led to a massive explosion, followed by dozens more, at a propane storage facility. It caused the evacuation of thousands, shut down public transit and the city's arterial, 16-lane highway. Because it happened in the middle of the night on a weekend, it was hours before news organizations were able to respond. David Armano and I were online as the event unfolded which inspired his post: http://darmano.typepad.com/logic_emotion/2008/08/if-you-cant-bea.html Richer communication: Cindy mentioned the power of narrative experienced over time and the dialogues that start on Twitter facilitate in-person introductions and conversation. We can jump immediately to richer, meaningful conversations already understanding much of the context that informs our thoughts. Fun: Expressing one's thoughts in 140 characters can be poetic if one chooses that approach - in my view, more should. Expressing complex ideas in a short space is both a challenge and a reward. Meeting in person is even more enjoyable than a random introduction due to the shared history. Contrary to what some say, there is no correct way to use Twitter - though there are irresponsible and disrespectful ways. What are you doing? is a starting point. The rest is up to you. -K @kaleemux http://twitter.com/kaleemux . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34682 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] better but seems more ugly interaction
http://www.switched.com/2008/10/16/employees-can-now-clock-in-with-their-cell-phones/ The methods for tracking employees have evolved as companies attempt to reign in spending and increase productivity. 'The Man' never sleeps, and pretty soon, the opportunity for the working man to exercise his right to take unnecessary coffee breaks and congregate at the watercooler will be gone forever. It only makes the working enviroment less attractive than without it, from personal view. And it's seems a good example on what's the ugly interaction design. Cheers, -- Jarod -- http://designforuse.blogspot.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams
http://www.amazon.com/Inmates-Are-Running-Asylum/dp/0672316498 Alan cooper's above book ( with about face ). Cheers, -- Jarod On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy Dan Brown's Communicating Design - it will get you on your way. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34912 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- http://designforuse.blogspot.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Special event with LIMITED seating - frog design NYC IxDA present Tiger.Blam/ Designing for Global Impact - Jan Chipchase of Nokia
*frog design and IxDA NY present:* Tiger.Blam / Designing for Global Impact A conversation with Nokia's Jan Chipchase on effective design research in cross-cultural mobile markets Date: Wednesday November 5th, 2008 Registration: 6:00pm (refreshments served) Please arrive by 6 to allow time to get through security. Photo ID required by security to enter building. It must match the name on the registration list. Presentation: 6:30pm to 8:00pm (includes QA) Networking: 8:00pm to 8:30pm JPMorgan Chase Auditorium 277 Park Avenue New York, NY 10017 (between 47th 48th) Cost: FREE, but you must RSVP RSVP by Friday October 31st at http://tinyurl.com/64uxlg You must enter the following code to register: #ixda About Jan Chipchase: Jan Chipchase is one of a team of researchers and anthropologists working at Nokia. Based within the design organization at Nokia, his job is to study people around the world - how they behave, communicate and interact with each other and the things around them. He shares his observations and insights with Nokia designers, who often accompany him on field trips, helping them to create new ideas for how mobile devices will look, work and be used in the future. Most of his time is spent in the field conducting research projects. This takes him out onto the streets, into people's homes and public spaces to observe, document and analyze the rich tapestry of everyday life. Recent projects include visiting Uganda to look at shared phone use, several trips to India to look at how design can make mobile devices more accessible to people with low or non-existent levels of literacy and a study in South Korea looking at how early adopters were reacting to the then recently launched mobile TV. His research focuses on the future three to fifteen years from now - understanding today's base human motivations, detecting early signals of new trends and combining this knowledge with an understanding of where technology is heading. The research is used by the design team together with a suite of other tools to help inform and inspire the design of future products, features, applications, services and platforms. In 2006 alone this took him to fifteen different countries, helping Nokia understand both the similarities and differences between cultures. About design mind: The design mind speaker series is an effort to bring together today's leaders in business, technology, and design for an evening of interdisciplinary discussion and debate. Held in frog's studios throughout the US, Asia, and Europe, the series invites prominent speakers from a wide range of disciplines to share their perspectives on market trends, cultural innovations, and more. About IxDA NY: The Interaction Design Association (IxDA.org) is a member-supported organization committed to serving the needs of the international interaction design community. With the help of more than 10,000 members worldwide, we provide a network for advancing the discipline of interaction design. IxDA was founded in 2003 as an online discussion list and in just 5 years the organization has grown to include over 60 local groups worldwide and the first global conference on interaction design and for interaction designers. Our next conference, Interaction 09 | Vancouver, takes off where our first conference, Interaction 09 | Savannah, left off as a space bringing the best broad talent of interaction designers together from around the world (interaction09.ixda.org). Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams
Um... Jared - I read both of those books, and there is not UX process diagram in them. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Jarod Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Inmates-Are-Running-Asylum/dp/0672316498 Alan cooper's above book ( with about face ). Cheers, -- Jarod On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy Dan Brown's Communicating Design - it will get you on your way. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34912 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- http://designforuse.blogspot.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Many of you might have tried creating an account online in order to participate in an online forum or in order to apply for a job in a major corporation. Many times a password needs to consist of the following- A capital letter A digit or sometimes 2 digits Minimum 8 Characters The password must not include ANY of the letters or digits already contained in your user name. Why make it hard for a user to sign up?? Why cant a username `ABS_4u` have the following password `Malemodel_14` ?? Whats the problem with having digit `4` appearing in both the username and password?? I know that `regular expressions` in a dynamic website helps with preventing fraud etc. But programmers should be aware that users will leave if the sign up process is hard and time taking. Such password requirements are hard to remember. Why cant I just have a password the way I want it?? If I dont want any digits then let ME decide that. Dont throw rules and requirements at me. Its MY account and I am the one responsible for letting hackers misuse my account. Which I doubt they will anyway. Another important thing to keep in mind is culture and religious beliefs. In certain South Asian cultures 2 digits are seen as a bad omen. Why even ask for a Capital letter?? My South Asian parents HATE using Capital letters and want to just enter a password with no hassle. `Pressing shift and a letter in order to Capitalize it is irritating`. Respect the user and make it easier for him/her to decide a password! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Here's the programmer-sympathetic counter to what you're saying. Users tend to choose the easiest-to-type passwords. These passwords also tend to be the easiest to break in to. No end-user is willing to take responsibility for a compromised system. None. The potential cost of recovering/auditing/repairing a compromised system as well as any potential legal fallout of exposed user information is much greater than the cost imposed by inconveniencing a small set of users. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of you might have tried creating an account online in order to participate in an online forum or in order to apply for a job in a major corporation. Many times a password needs to consist of the following- A capital letter A digit or sometimes 2 digits Minimum 8 Characters The password must not include ANY of the letters or digits already contained in your user name. Why make it hard for a user to sign up?? Why cant a username `ABS_4u` have the following password `Malemodel_14` ?? Whats the problem with having digit `4` appearing in both the username and password?? I know that `regular expressions` in a dynamic website helps with preventing fraud etc. But programmers should be aware that users will leave if the sign up process is hard and time taking. Such password requirements are hard to remember. Why cant I just have a password the way I want it?? If I dont want any digits then let ME decide that. Dont throw rules and requirements at me. Its MY account and I am the one responsible for letting hackers misuse my account. Which I doubt they will anyway. Another important thing to keep in mind is culture and religious beliefs. In certain South Asian cultures 2 digits are seen as a bad omen. Why even ask for a Capital letter?? My South Asian parents HATE using Capital letters and want to just enter a password with no hassle. `Pressing shift and a letter in order to Capitalize it is irritating`. Respect the user and make it easier for him/her to decide a password! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Whistler Trip after IxDA
actually, yeah... if at all possible, kinda need to have more insight this week for work scheduling purposes. On Oct 26, 2008, at 7:42 AM, Will Evans wrote: Any update on Skiing at Interactions|09 On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:47 PM, greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should have the package this week. The two conference hotels also have sister hotels at Whistler and we are asking them to get us preferred pricing. Stay tuned! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34160 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Hello Mark, as I stated earlier the `regular expression` needed in order to prevent misuse should allow a user to use the same digit in his/her password as used in the username. When I took the course PHP and MYSQL I learned that `regular expressions` can be used in a userfriendly manner. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Mark Canlas wrote: No end-user is willing to take responsibility for a compromised system. Asking users to choose a password compels them to take responsibility. Their cost/benefit judgement (strong vs. easy to remember password in regard to their perceived value of what is at stake) should be trusted afterwards. Annoying and scolding users seems reasonable only because inconvenience is easily mistaken with security. -- Santiago Bustelo // icograma Buenos Aires, Argentina . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Why should designers make more?
Something I feel VERY strongly about is changing the perceived value of designers/design in many companies, and consequently the compensation designers receive relative to engineers, etc. I plan to write several articles about this and hopefully have some impact... First entry - future ones will have more meat... and if you have any other sources of material on this, I would love to have it to link to and reference. http://www.dexodesign.com/2008/10/28/why-should-designers-make-more-a-miniseries/ Russell Wilson Vice President of Product Design, NetQoS Blog: http://www.dexodesign.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/design_researchers_a_tablet_to_call_your_own_11556.asp The folks over at Bressler Group under Robert Tanen came up with a nifty tool for the field researcher on your Chrismakawanzisolkah list. -- dave -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Mark Canlas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the programmer-sympathetic counter to what you're saying. Users tend to choose the easiest-to-type passwords. These passwords also tend to be the easiest to break in to. All of my strong passwords are easy to type (which is why I chose them). It annoys and concerns me when a website forces me to select a weak password. Restricting what a user can pick for a password to the point they they aren't going to remember, serves no one. Not the user and not the company/website. If the user cannot remember their password then the company/website should have some way to recover/reset that password. In some cases requiring the user to *call* the company to recover their password (wasted resources if the user was allowed pick a password they could remember). As far as weak passwords go, the system shouldn't be so insecure as to allow one user to cause very much damage. If the user selects a weak password and someone breaks into their account and destroys the users info/account/profile the responsibility is on the user. If the system allows that one user to destroy the system then that is on the company. Granted admins might have that power but they are not typical users and tend not to select weak passwords. The best way I've seen to encourage users to select strong passwords is to show them on the fly how strong it is. Who wants to see a big red weak next to their password? Just my 2 cents. -- Andrew Jaswa andrewjaswa.com wsuug.org Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams
Hi Wendy, I was on the hunt for some sample UCD/design process diagrams just last week. Managed to compile a bunch (good and bad) into a slide deck. I'll send along to you directly once I get on to my work computer. If anyone else wants a copy of the samples, let me know. There is, btw, a process matrix in Cooper's About Face - 3. Not really a diagram, but helpful nonetheless. Cheers, Cindy -- Cindy Chastain 917-848-7995 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
On 10/28/08, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/design_researchers_a_tablet_to_call_your_own_11556.asp Talk about a necessary niche. They're right, we really don't have a lot of tools (though paper pencil can be extremely flexible). This is so intense I'd even consider buying the first version, heh. I mean come on, sub-vocalization sensors? It's straight out of Shadowrun!!! F. -- Fred Beecher Sr. User Experience Consultant Evantage Consulting O: 612.230.3838 // M: 612.810.6745 IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (google/msn) // fredevc (aim/yahoo) T: http://twitter.com/fred_beecher Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus
Hello everyone, I'm new to IxDA, glad to be part of this. I wanted to share this interesting article: http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/pie-in-the-sky/ What are your thoughts? - Mike avisena.com mikecuesta.com -- It's easier to invent the future than to predict it. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Very recent suggestion I have provided in my current project, which I felt reasonably good solutions to overcome this password remembering hassle. I agree with this issue, me also forgetting password for so many websites and application where my password is not come into my password generating pattern. As per my study and readings at my customer location, I found that each one has their own password generating pattern and very few keeps unique password at every site, therefore password selection MUST be as flexible as selecting username. But considering security I strongly follow mix and match methods for password but mixing facility has to be very easy and there shouldn%u2019t be any restriction to the users. For example::: My password generation pattern always starts with my favorite work kapasi and making all choices around this. kapasi_score OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR kapasi$need, etc Here I never preferred to have following condition as otherwise its very confusing for me and hard to remember that which combination I have kept for each password. Hard conditions::: Must one uppercase and one digit (where I can%u2019t keep any special character) Must be one special character and less then 8 digits Must have one number (where I can%u2019t keep any special character). In short the moment you restrict one thing or the other which restrict my password generating pattern will BIG trouble for me. And second very important item is I hardly read the password generating conditions which is there to teach us how to generate password, and in this condition I always try to generate password on my way and failed couple of time, after frustration I try to read their instructions or simply close the window. Thank you Sohel Kapasi . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
Must admit that the concept has me drooling. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Fred Beecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/28/08, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/design_researchers_a_tablet_to_call_your_own_11556.asp Talk about a necessary niche. They're right, we really don't have a lot of tools (though paper pencil can be extremely flexible). This is so intense I'd even consider buying the first version, heh. I mean come on, sub-vocalization sensors? It's straight out of Shadowrun!!! F. -- Fred Beecher Sr. User Experience Consultant Evantage Consulting O: 612.230.3838 // M: 612.810.6745 IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (google/msn) // fredevc (aim/yahoo) T: http://twitter.com/fred_beecher Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
I'm gonna start saving for one of these. -- Brett Lutchman Web Slinger. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
what gets me is how valuable this would be for more than UX, but extend it to almost any field observation recon auditing type activity. I likey! I'd like to buy a set for my contextual research project class, please. ;-) -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34963 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
This device really is a back stage pass. Just carry one of these to any event along with a name-tag and your in. Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -Original Message- From: David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:51:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher what gets me is how valuable this would be for more than UX, but extend it to almost any field observation recon auditing type activity. I likey! I'd like to buy a set for my contextual research project class, please. ;-) -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34963 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus
Hi Mike, Lateral movement is easier, shorter is quicker. The pie chart has a larger area in terms of direction of travel i.e. there is more tolerance. The pie is smaller but its nearer. See Fitt's Law for a mathematical view. Ivor Tillier Senior Web Producer -Original Message- http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/pie-in-the-sky/ What are your thoughts? This email (and any attachment) is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please tell us by reply and delete all copies on your system. Although this email has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. Please note that email traffic data may be monitored and that emails may be viewed for security reasons. Blackwell Publishing Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 180277. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 8SQ. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
These strong password requirements were not invented by evil programmers designed to thwart the heroic efforts of usability experts across the globe... It is one of the minimum due diligence requirements (PCI) for merchants who want to accept major credit cards online. http://usa.visa.com/merchants/risk_management/cisp_overview.html No one wants to make it more difficult for a user to sign-up, but I think everyone would agree that successful brute force attacks are not very user-friendly. It is not about security through inconvenience but there are real technical reasons for strong passwords at least on e-commerce sites. It is the lesser of two evils. If a user has ADHD, then there is software to help them keep (and even create) strong passwords. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/keepass.html . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:51:29, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what gets me is how valuable this would be for more than UX, but extend it to almost any field observation recon auditing type activity. The thing that amuses me is imagining the researchers working on this project observing other researchers doing research. It's like reading a Borges novel in a hall of mirrors. F. -- Fred Beecher Sr. User Experience Consultant Evantage Consulting O: 612.230.3838 // M: 612.810.6745 IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (google/msn) // fredevc (aim/yahoo) T: http://twitter.com/fred_beecher Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why should designers make more?
When I first saw the title of this thread, I processed the word make as to create. as in Why should designers create more. Before I clicked in to read the thread, I was already answering the question. How can't we create more? It's what we do. It's what we love. It's in our blood. Of course, you're talking about making more money, but before I clicked in, I couldn't help but look at the question worded this way, and swapping the location of the two words; 'designer', 'make': *Why should makers design more?* (Stick with me here, I'm not really going off on some weird and unrelated tangent, promise.) I think the newly worded questions sheds some insight on the problem from a perspective of the average corporate executive. In their eyes, are their designers 'designing'? Or are we simply 'making' things? Perhaps they don't even distinguish a difference between the two. make the button do this. make this page load after that happens make them have to fill this out first make that green... They may miss out on understanding the fundamental difference between 'designing', and 'making'. It's a lack of understanding, a lack of knowledge -- an innocent ignorance of what's required to complete the process. From a traditional corporate executive perspective, they know that their engineers/developers need to have their heads deep in code-land. They have to understand and be able to work with all that 'mumbo-jumbo', and the really good ones that do it well can sit down at a terminal and whip up some voodoo magic of functionality with a maestro's flair at the keyboard. It's very easy to demonstrate the proficiency and deep knowledge they have with their skill set. The people in the boardroom have long understood that 'code is hard', and their rockstar developers can easily demonstrate that when it comes to the bottom line, they can produce functional deliverables at factory speed. The designers, on the other hand, live in a more ethereal world of processes. It can sometimes have the potential to be somewhat thankless, as the better the designer is -- the less it is they appear to have done. What I mean by that is that when a designer takes a relatively complicated set of functional requirements, boils it all down and produces the most perfect, simple and understandable interaction that 'totally nails it', the final product is so simple and obvious that it's often looked upon as common sense. That was easy. The CEO thinks. What other option was there? So in order to spread the wealth, something has to shift in the fundamental understanding of design at the top levels. There has to be a very solid understanding in terms of the bottom line. From a compensation basis, the only way designers are going to be valued, is when their value can be quantified in dollars. It needs to be detailed in the cost of operations. Therefore, it needs to be clear that was is made is what was designed. The two terms are NOT interchangable. (It's a bit of a catch22 in some ways, as in corporations where the designers are not valued, the designers rarely have the ability to begin the design process at the appropriate stage, and are often called in well after the engineers have already begun the 'skeleton code', which can greatly hamper the designers ability to design the right thing) The engineers can produce functional deliverables at top notch speed, they can make anything you ask for, but how many times at the 90% completion stage has some sort of deep problem in functionality reared it's head? It's the old 90/90 rule: *The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time*. The designer's value is directly related to how much that 80% just cost the company. Value them early, give them the ablility to first *design *what you are going to *make*, and eventually -- the numbers will speak for themselves. Hopefully, over the next few years, there will be access to some solid numbers to back this up, but I don't know of any such stats at this juncture. fingers crossed. Shaun On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Russell Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Something I feel VERY strongly about is changing the perceived value of designers/design in many companies, and consequently the compensation designers receive relative to engineers, etc. I plan to write several articles about this and hopefully have some impact... First entry - future ones will have more meat... and if you have any other sources of material on this, I would love to have it to link to and reference. http://www.dexodesign.com/2008/10/28/why-should-designers-make-more-a-miniseries/ Russell Wilson Vice President of Product Design, NetQoS Blog: http://www.dexodesign.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
I'll be honest. My first reaction upon clicking the link was to laugh out loud. It's a combination between a tricorder and the tape player I had when I was eleven. My more measured response is to question the wisdom of mediating field research with this kind of technology. When I'm carrying out user research I try not to attract attention. This isn't exactly discrete. Have you seen the size of this thing? The sketch puts it at about the same dimensions as a closed MacBook Pro. From my experience with tablet computing, carrying this thing around would get tiring very quickly. I'm also not sure about tying the orientation of the camera to the writing surface; I can't imagine they both have the same optimal angle. Give me a moleskin notebook and a cameraphone. // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34963 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus
I'm glad seeing interests for pie menus. They have some limitations (ie.: screen space and number of elements) but present major advantages offer linear menus. One I like is the possibility to use marks for selection instead of pointing. Gordon Kurtembach made a Ph.D. thesis on the subject, calling it Marking Menus: KURTENBACH G. (1993). The design and evaluation of marking menus, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, 173 p. There's another implementation for Firefox that might interest you. Its called easyGestures: http://easygestures.mozdev.org/ Also, here's a very interresting project called Circle Dock to allow you to select application in windows: http://circledock.wikidot.com/ For mac, the equivalent would be Trampoline: http://www.old-jewel.com/trampoline/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34967 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
If a user has ADHD, then there is software to help them keep (and even create) strong passwords. I usually just use this one: •• ;-) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Can good design save the world?
Wall Street has gotten itself and the rest of the world in a huge mess. Could good design save the world? Some basic design principles not only apply well to products and services, but also to policy! http://danielmckenzie.com/blog/2008/10/what-wall-street-could-learn-from-goo d-design/ --- Daniel McKenzie | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [650] 619 3812 | www.danielmckenzie.com digital design solutions Read my blog at: www.danielmckenzie.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] User Experience Networking Event hosted by salesforce.com- November 5, 2008
You are invited to the User Experience Networking event hosted by salesforce.com Please join the salesforce.com User Experience team in San Francisco at a free networking event! Come and meet fellow User Experience professionals and find out more about salesforce.com and our growing User Experience team. Drinks and appetizers will be served. When: Wednesday, November 05 2008 from 06:00 PM - 08:30 PM (PT) Where: Sens Restaurant, Embarcadero 4- San Francisco, CA Why You Want to Be There: * Meet other user experience professionals from around the Bay Area * Get to know salesforce.com and the User Experience Team * Enjoy free food and drinks! Please RSVP by going to the invitation link: http://sfuserexperience.eventbrite.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus
For mac, the equivalent would be Trampoline: http://www.old-jewel.com/trampoline/ Sweet — I already love it! Thanks for the tip. I've used QuickSilver for at least a year now, but Trampoline is a nice alternative for those core apps I open all the time. (Doesn't work so well for folders, though, because instead of opening the folder, you get a new radial menu for each level of the hierarchy.) -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Designing versus Responding
Yesterday one of my colleagues said that, when solving a problem, the response IS the design. (That is, Response and Design are interchangeable synonyms.) Really: Response = Design and Design = Response? Isn't it that Design _leads_to_ the Response? In my view, Design requires analysis and method. In some cases, it may _appear_ that Design = Response if an experienced practitioners very quickly solves a problem. [By comparison, an inexperienced designer who responds from the gut has not designed anything, in my view; they've merely responded.] Is it Design when an experienced designer applies a pattern -- a Response -- to another pattern -- a Problem -- to create a Response? Do you agree that Design requires deliberate, conscious analysis and the use of specific methods? When an experienced designer shortcuts those methods by using an experienced-based-pattern response, is that still design? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
What¹s the recommended time to run a Flash movie introducing a site, its content and available tools to a new user on arrival. Example, see http://www.smilebooks.com/ I think this one runs for 8-9 seconds end to end. Thanks! -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright© 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet Mr/Ms UX Researcher
A sensor that recognises subvocalization?! My Google search, define:subvocalize, gives only 2 def'ns: - Articulate without making audible sounds; she was reading to herself and merely subvocalized wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - To form words or statements in thought and express them inwardly without uttering them aloud en.wiktionary.org/wiki/subvocalize So: either this tablet can read lips or read thoughts. Is this a hoax? -=- Jerome -Original Message- http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/design_researchers_a_tablet_to_call_your_own_11556.asp Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet Mr/Ms UX Researcher
I recently saw an piece on the Discovery Channel regarding this technology. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name of the show or when it was on, except a week or so ago. But essentially, here's how it works, in a nutshell: They (the scientists) discovered that when a person is speaking, his jaw emits electric signals that differentiate between the different words he or she is saying. Then, they discovered that you don't have to be speaking, and merely have to say what you mean silently to yourself (in your head) to emit those electric signals. Then, they figured out how to pick up those signals with a diode attached in the right place beneath the chin and neck. Once they had all that, they had the workings of a telepathic transmitter. Most likely, that's where this concept came from. I think the show was NextWorld or that New Zealand show about future technology... -- Bryan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34963 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
I think it's 0 seconds. Seriously, we had this conversation in-house today and I am surprised that (1) we are still building Flash intros; (2) that we'd build something (on the web) that needs an intro, a (required) tutorial; and (3) that the we slice the pie such that we look to solve the problem in this tutorial rather than in the whole interface. Our in-house designer responded well, it's not an intro, it's a tutorial. Maybe it's not the designer's problem to solve. Maybe the director can help you out with some negotiating skills. I pitch something like www.southwest.com's clear starting points for the primary tasks or what blogger has done with their 'what is it?' and 'easy as 1-2-3' overviews. That's a homepage component. It reinforces the value, the main actions/tasks, and explicitly communicates the navigation and interaction. Arguing to the example of smilebooks.com: Compare the value of that woman with her hands up in the air to a '1-2-3' diagram. I see a task to replace the stock photos with informative graphics. If you have to give instructions or directions to a task, I think of the hover invitation pattern in the YUI library as the concept to follow. It combines help on demand with error prevention to show people as they need it. Taking over a UI to show people how and/or why to use it is just wrong. Think of the physical analogy: What if someone got up in your grill when you walked into a store and explained to you how to shop in their store. That's not help, it's Woolworth's gone wild. /soapbox /ahem I hope this helps. Sincerely. -Jay On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What¹s the recommended time to run a Flash movie introducing a site, its content and available tools to a new user on arrival. Example, see http://www.smilebooks.com/ I think this one runs for 8-9 seconds end to end. Thanks! -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright(c) 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Jay A. Morgan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Your field tablet mr. UX Researcher
Jerome - No hoax, Charles Jorgensen of NASA has been work on subvocalization technology for several years: Even when reading or speaking to oneself with or without actual lip or facial movement, biological signals arise. While using the NASA subvocal system, a person thinks of a phrase and talks to himself so quietly that it can't be heard; despite that, the tongue and vocal cords receive speech signals from the brain that are detected and analyzed using a small electrode placed on the throat - http://thefutureofthings.com/articles.php?itemId=28/58/ Also, with regard to the retro design, the speech-to-text/text-to-speech functionality of the concept inspired us to the throwback design of the old Speak Spell - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speak__Spell_(game) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34963 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
I recommend zero seconds. grin More seriously, what are you trying to introduce, is an introduction necessary, and is Flash the right tool for the task. Once you can answer those questions, you'll see that the recommended length is what the introduction requires, no more and no less. -- Jim Via my iPhone On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What’s the recommended time to run a Flash movie introducing a site, its content and available tools to a new user on arrival. Example, see http://www.smilebooks.com/ I think this one runs for 8-9 seconds end to end. Thanks! -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright© 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing versus Responding
Design is both the act of creation (verb); [THE] Design is a deliverable. To use the word response seems like a misuse of the word. If one starts by defining a problem/space, proceeds through various brainstorming/ideation activities/and produces some artifact - that artifact could be THE design, but it's not technically a response, unless you consider a defined problem as a question and a design as a response to that question - is that your colleague's meaning when he/she/it talks about response? On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Jerome Ryckborst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see Design as a verb, and my colleague sees Design as a noun. So by Response I mean the deliverable – the thing that addresses the problem. -=- Jerome Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Chris Vestal wrote: http://usa.visa.com It is not about security through inconvenience but there are real technical reasons for strong passwords at least on e-commerce sites. Usually is about inconvenience *instead* of security. The most commonly used security metric is how safe users feel they are, or stakeholders believe users are. A reality check about how much credit card companies actually care: http://www.zug.com/pranks/credit-cards/ I would certainly not advocate weak passwords. But password strength is a subjective matter. The same password can be considered very weak or unbeatably strong by two different algorithms ( = programmers). That is why the burden is always on the user, whose decision must be respected. Inform users how strong your algorithm thinks their passwords are (I second Andrew on doing it on the fly), but don't kick them out if they consider that the value that password has to protect does not deserve any more trouble. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
So you would advocate letting users set blank or English-word passwords? The user may think these are secure enough. But what will they think when their funds are depleted by someone who broke into their account? On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Santiago Bustelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Chris Vestal wrote: http://usa.visa.com It is not about security through inconvenience but there are real technical reasons for strong passwords at least on e-commerce sites. Usually is about inconvenience *instead* of security. The most commonly used security metric is how safe users feel they are, or stakeholders believe users are. A reality check about how much credit card companies actually care: http://www.zug.com/pranks/credit-cards/ I would certainly not advocate weak passwords. But password strength is a subjective matter. The same password can be considered very weak or unbeatably strong by two different algorithms ( = programmers). That is why the burden is always on the user, whose decision must be respected. Inform users how strong your algorithm thinks their passwords are (I second Andrew on doing it on the fly), but don't kick them out if they consider that the value that password has to protect does not deserve any more trouble. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel
you could write `country of depature` instead of country of origin. Depature and origin means two different things. Ali . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34743 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Country from or to in Travel
Andy wrote`No! Don't do that. Most of the world doesn't call it a Zip code and every country has different formats. I hate it when I get funnelled into a form using one country's terminology only.` Exactly! And what do you do if you live in Karachi, Pakistan?? Karachi does not have a zipcode or postal code! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34743 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can good design save the world?
Hi, I would say there is more than enough blame to go around than just saying its Wall Street. I probably differ than most views here, but in my book, its really greed based. That applies to all of us, consumers, the high ups on Wall Street, the get all the money they can CEO's, those in *Congress* who pushed to change the laws to lower the standards for making loans to people who could not afford them (names dropped), and those who buy houses on interest only loans only to flip them in 2 years, etc. The sad part is that as Americans - we don't save anymore, we just spend and spend.How many of us know people who carry a balance of 5K or more on their credit card? Probably more than we care to admit. Those of us who design for a living are in it too. We want people to buy/use the products we work hard to create. Maybe we all need to take a hard look at where its taking us, and try to do more with less. Could it save the world? No, I don't think so. just my views... 'mark Dan McKenzie wrote: Wall Street has gotten itself and the rest of the world in a huge mess. Could good design save the world? Some basic design principles not only apply well to products and services, but also to policy! http://danielmckenzie.com/blog/2008/10/what-wall-street-could-learn-from-goo d-design/ --- Daniel McKenzie | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [650] 619 3812 | www.danielmckenzie.com digital design solutions Read my blog at: www.danielmckenzie.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interface Design vs Interaction Design
hi, On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 13:25 +, james horgan wrote: actually i wanted to add something to what i was writing as this reminds me of the same problem i used to have as an industrial designer. Whether to call myself an industrial or a product designer. I solved my design education in Germany, where all traditional graphic design courses were renamed to Kommunikationsdesign or Visuelle Kommunikation (I think you can guess what these terms mean :) most people that graduated with me call themselves communication designers, because the abstract, high-level communication between viewer and artifact is what's interesting about it, not making some nice graphics, and because this opens the field to cover things like film, web, signage, interface (haha) etc. besides it was the name of the course. despite of this development, graphic design is still far more known and easier to understand. the discussion on interface vs interaction design actually reminds me of graphic vs. communication design. regarding terms like social interaction design, I think inventing names for special areas of expertise is a natural way for an emerging discipline. my counterpart example from communication design would be editorial design. milan -- milan guenther * interaction design ||| | | || | || | || +33 6 67 11 13 83 * www.guenther.cx Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
to Mark, you have to keep in mind that my post was concerning Online Forum and Job Application passwords. I did not mention B2B or any other site where credit card information is needed. Lets for instance say that I am a Nigerian mother wanting to discuss children in a forum for mothers. Why should I go through the hassle of remembering a password consisting of capital letters and digits?? Also when you apply for a job at NOKIA you dont provide credit card information. You upload a CV and some work experience only. Why should that be so hard to do? At a website such as Amazon.com where transactions of several million dollars a year are processed, such password requirement is not asked for! Amazon is a prime example of user friendly interface and experience. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
Reality Check - Card-issuing banks and VISA/Mastercard are NOT the same thing. While you are correct that two algorithms can measure the strength/weakness of a password differently, the financial responsibility is NOT ultimately with the user, but it rests currently on the merchant and VISA/Mastercard/etc. There is a new paradigm shift aimed to change this... but if you think strong passwords are an inconvenience then wait until 3D-Secure becomes more prevalent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-D_Secure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
understanding what the context is - a first time user hitting your website what is the objective, goal, strategy? If the tactic you choose is Flash Intro, and the Goal is to showcase your flash designer's mad skills, and the objective is to annoy the first time or second time visitor - then flash intros are the way to go! On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jay Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's 0 seconds. Seriously, we had this conversation in-house today and I am surprised that (1) we are still building Flash intros; (2) that we'd build something (on the web) that needs an intro, a (required) tutorial; and (3) that the we slice the pie such that we look to solve the problem in this tutorial rather than in the whole interface. Our in-house designer responded well, it's not an intro, it's a tutorial. Maybe it's not the designer's problem to solve. Maybe the director can help you out with some negotiating skills. I pitch something like www.southwest.com's clear starting points for the primary tasks or what blogger has done with their 'what is it?' and 'easy as 1-2-3' overviews. That's a homepage component. It reinforces the value, the main actions/tasks, and explicitly communicates the navigation and interaction. Arguing to the example of smilebooks.com: Compare the value of that woman with her hands up in the air to a '1-2-3' diagram. I see a task to replace the stock photos with informative graphics. If you have to give instructions or directions to a task, I think of the hover invitation pattern in the YUI library as the concept to follow. It combines help on demand with error prevention to show people as they need it. Taking over a UI to show people how and/or why to use it is just wrong. Think of the physical analogy: What if someone got up in your grill when you walked into a store and explained to you how to shop in their store. That's not help, it's Woolworth's gone wild. /soapbox /ahem I hope this helps. Sincerely. -Jay On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What¹s the recommended time to run a Flash movie introducing a site, its content and available tools to a new user on arrival. Example, see http://www.smilebooks.com/ I think this one runs for 8-9 seconds end to end. Thanks! -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright(c) 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Jay A. Morgan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
I guess it might be clear by now, but just not a big fan of the flash intro http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=29277 where we discussed before, though in a different context. Some quotes from others: Agh! No, no and no! I've spent a good many years trying to convince clients to stop this practice. Even those that insisted on going with the Flash intro have all let up now. Sam W. In general, I do not like Flash intros or splash pages. Not it depends. In my mind, if you do a Flash-site, your whole web site should be contained within that flash movie, if you can work with a good programmer, the technology allows you to do that. Attention Adobe Flex. - Enrique S Personally, I would rather be boiled in hot oil while my fingernails are pulled out through my nostrils than watch a flash intro. - Mario B. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To expand on your answer, are you saying that the SWF in the example I provided isn't a good user experience. If not, why? What's the prevailing wisdom on these flash interstitials that are supposed to guide a users understanding of what they can do on a site? It's not an intro screen, but in the hero box on Home. Tony On 10/28/08 2:17 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0 0 is the optimum time for an intro flash movie on a site. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the recommended time to run a Flash movie introducing a site, its content and available tools to a new user on arrival. Example, see http://www.smilebooks.com/ I think this one runs for 8-9 seconds end to end. Thanks! -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM http://ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright(c) 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Windows 7?
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081028-first-look-at-windows-7.html Ars Technica's glowing 'first look' piece on Windows 7's UI revamp. Compare and contrast all the things Vista did wrong with the brave move by the company that is Windows 7. If Peter Bright was any more fawning I'd have to start calling him Bambi. Anyone got useful info on this? Best, --Alan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Santiago Bustelo wrote: it is the job of every designer to blunt and, where possible, eliminate the lawyer's attempts to sabotage your company's products. Or die trying. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
On Oct 28, 2008, at 3:49 AM, Andy Polaine wrote: I think most companies who care about having great interaction design would also have at least pretty good and probably great visual design. Have you used Craigslist in the last 5 years? What visual designer would put the Craigslist design in their portfolio? Jared Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Ah, but the question was (I think) whether they have great interactions even if they don't have great visual design. I understood the question to be 'Can the designer create great interaction without great visual design skills?' This seems like a difficult question to answer objectively without personally knowing a designer and their designs. My point was that while interactive products need to have great interaction, not every interactive product needs to have *visual* design. What about the Metro card machines in the NYC subway system? They're cute but the UI is pretty basic. Despite this the interaction design is great b/c they're fast and so easy to use. What level of visual or product design skill, or engineering for that matter, did those designers need to have in order to create a great interaction design? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
I think most companies who care about having great interaction design would also have at least pretty good and probably great visual design. Have you used Craigslist in the last 5 years? What visual designer would put the Craigslist design in their portfolio? Yup. It's a great idea, service and system, but it's no great shakes in either interaction design or visual design. That's not where its strength lies. It doesn't make it bad (it's good) and it does go to show a simple idea can have a simple design, but it doesn't go against what I originally said. I still can't think of something that has great interaction design and rubbish visual design, but I can't think of plenty the other way around. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interface Design vs Interaction Design
Further complicating things our workplace are our titles, such as interacTIVE designers--the ones who do the visual interface design--and interacTION designers, who do more of the IA work, testing, etc. Ah, the need for buckets to put people into... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34525 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Go to any Kinkos and sign into one of their self-serve computers. Their terms and conditions make you scroll to the bottom of the textbox before activating the buttons. // jeff bmclaughlin wrote: However, I am still looking for samples. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password requirements are not user friendly
We may be talking about different things here. Never said strong passwords are an inconvenience. Ali Naqvi started this thread asking: Why cant a username 'ABS_4u' have the following password 'Malemodel_14? Strong password: for passwordmeter.com's algorithm, 'Malemodel_14' strenght is sufficient (62%). Inconvenience: getting your account request rejected because some an annonymous programmer made a set of arbitrary rules that you can only pass banging your keyboard furiously. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34957 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
O. The hero box! That is so much different. that smilebooks flash thing doesn't seem to offer alot of bang for the buck - just simple marketing benefit statements - Refocused on how easy it is to create one of those things in 4/5/6 steps seems much better. If you site is similar to smilebooks - this is actually a perfect type of product to benefit from gradual engagement - let the user come in, upload photos, write stories, format the whole thing - only when they want to save it do they need to create a username/password - and only when they are reading to have the book printed and bound do they need to enter some evil form with billing/contact info - see Luke W's last chapter in web form design on gradual engagement. -w On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have been more specific. It's the Hero box on the home page, not a flash splash page. We're trying to give the user some visual stimulation that they can create photo books. The current UI and visual assumes the user knows what a photo book is and uses the image to try to convey to the user that they may create one. However, I'm not a big fan of this. If you look at a competing site, http://www.smilebooks.com, you'll see how they display a flash module on the home page that rotates three images, each trying to tell a story. Family, wedding, female friends can create a photo book using the site. -- *Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *+1 631.873.2007 | Direct * *+1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz *6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 *This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright(c) 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. * -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
that there is a strong dependency on how/if the interaction will work Rein, what do you mean by this? I'm under the impression that how/if the interaction will work would be the main focus of an interaction designer's job... This statement sort of sounds like, well, it's not...?? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
Personally, I would rather be boiled in hot oil while my fingernails are pulled out through my nostrils than watch a flash intro. - Mario B. I stand by that statement, but that is purely the opinion of myself as an end user. I know that we, as designers, are trying to push the edge on stuff and there are a lot of Flash junkies (some amazing ones actually); however, I believe that there is a time and place for Flash. A flash intro keeps me X seconds away from what I want to see and Flash doesn't work on my iPhone. Chances are I'm not your target audience. Restaurant sites drive me nuts, and those sites that are completely done in Flash, but the navigation is so useless that I just give up. Realtors drive me batty too. As an interaction designer, your goal is to not give the opportunity for users to give up. It all depends on your site though. There is no right answer, there's just a best answer - and it's up to you to find it. -- Mario Bourque Web: www.mariobourque.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
I should have been more specific. It¹s the Hero box on the home page, not a flash splash page. We¹re trying to give the user some visual stimulation that they can create photo books. The current UI and visual assumes the user knows what a ³photo book² is and uses the image to try to convey to the user that they may create one. However, I¹m not a big fan of this. If you look at a competing site, http://www.smilebooks.com, you¹ll see how they display a flash module on the home page that rotates three images, each trying to tell a story. Family, wedding, female friends can create a photo book using the site. -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright© 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can good design save the world?
Responding to Mark's comment, there is a feeling that as designers, we're helping to support a voracious appetite, deploy toxic advertising and other not-so-healthy interests. Part of the idea of human-centered design principles is to produce something that serves humans in a positive way. However, as designers we're often motivated by working on interesting projects, building our portfolios and resumes and/or just getting a paycheck, often with little or no interest in the effects of our actions. It's quite clear that the 21st century designer will need to be not only more environmentally conscious but also conscious of the effect their designs have on other human beings (both physically and mentally). This will require nothing short of an enlightened society. But let's face it, the 20th century was a disaster on so many fronts and we can't afford to continue like this. At the end of the day, design is a tool that can be used to either help alleviate human difficulty or serve a greed-driven, shallower purpose. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34980 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
A lot of companies are doing this now. It's much more acceptable than a flash intro page. There are ways to do it with JavaScript too. Never assume a user knows something. Mario On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have been more specific. It¹s the Hero box on the home page, not a flash splash page. We¹re trying to give the user some visual stimulation that they can create photo books. The current UI and visual assumes the user knows what a ³photo book² is and uses the image to try to convey to the user that they may create one. However, I¹m not a big fan of this. If you look at a competing site, http://www.smilebooks.com, you¹ll see how they display a flash module on the home page that rotates three images, each trying to tell a story. Family, wedding, female friends can create a photo book using the site. -- Anthony Zeoli | ZAAH.COM VP Product Business Development e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 631.873.2007 | Direct +1 631.873.2007 | Main +1 917.705.4700 | Mobile +1 631.873.2050 | Fax AIM: djtonyz | Yahoo: anthonyzeoli | MSN: djtonyz | Skype: tonyzeoli | Twitter: djtonyz 6 Dubon Court Farmingdale, NY 11735 This document contains proprietary and confidential information, which are the exclusive property of Zaah Technologies, Inc. Unauthorized use of this or any document, marked confidential is strictly prohibited. Copyright(c) 2008 Zaah Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Mario Bourque Web: www.mariobourque.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twitter: www.twitter.com/mariobourque Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
I think it's better to immediately try and show people what they can make and how to get started rather than show them images of models' and actors' made-up happy lives. As an in-between, MOO do a pretty good job of this: http:// www.moo.com/ There is a hero box animation that's relatively unobtrusive, but they make it clear what they offer and there is a big call to action button Choose a product to make straight off plus examples further down the page if you scroll. Their service is great too, which helps. On a side-note, I like the fact that MOO plugs into Flickr et al. I hate the idea of downloading a (usually inferior) bit of software in order to make a photobook when I've already uploaded everything once to Flickr. I've got iPhoto for that on the Mac and the Windows versions of those software packages are usually awful. The Mac ports of them are usually worse (awful Java interface cack). Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
great point -- as there are also many ticketing machines that are well designed, visually, but hard to use. Some because they use similar or even the same slot for inserting ccard or ticket (that always throws me off); or because the sequencing of steps is out of visual order (e.g. not top left to bottom right but higgledy - piggledy). I love the ones that have pasted-on hand-written explanations or drawings. For example of the proper way to hold the ccard when sliding -- strip in or out (this one also throws me all the time). Which creates an example of good interaction but bad UI on the help messaging (there's nothing wrong with the ccard slider but the graphical perspective of the card is weird). and what of the interaction design on a voicemail navigation system? interaction and interface, whether its visual, acoustic, sequenced, serial, discontinuous, continuous, seem only loosely coupled to me a My point was that while interactive products need to have great interaction, not every interactive product needs to have *visual* design. What about the Metro card machines in the NYC subway system? They're cute but the UI is pretty basic. Despite this the interaction design is great b/c they're fast and so easy to use. cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
On Oct 28, 2008, at 1:46 p, allison wrote: My point was that while interactive products need to have great interaction, not every interactive product needs to have *visual* design. What about the Metro card machines in the NYC subway system? They're cute but the UI is pretty basic. Despite this the interaction design is great b/c they're fast and so easy to use. What level of visual or product design skill, or engineering for that matter, did those designers need to have in order to create a great interaction design? Any thoughts about whether http://www.livescribe.com/ Pulse constitutes great interaction? --- Barbara Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designing compelling, usable, and device-appropriate software and web sites for mobile devices. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] How long should you run each instance in an introductory Flash piece
It seems like no one actually clicked the link because there wasn't any intro, simple some slides to introduce the value proposition. Anthony, I think the best timing is one where there's sufficient time for the user to read the material but at rate that you have enough rotation so that you can show several features. I don't think there's a standard time you can apply, just show it to a couple of people and ask them to read the text out loud and count how long it takes for them to read it. I would add a buffer of 1 second for scanning of the image. -Mike . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34984 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus
I love radial / orbital menus which are related to pie. Especially when dealing with deeply nested hierarchies as on windows/web, it's SOOO easy to accidently mouse off a deeply nested menu, and then have to retraverse it, to miss it again! Even back in 2005 I had one on my site (still up). It's actually has more than one depth, and a sort of zooming. It is a mini research project to see how well motion could be used to convey relationship. This is because my previous job was doing neural network visualization and we had saturated color, position for carrying information. There is a button off to the left side to turn visual hierarchy back on. The other thing I tried to explore is navigation vrs reading. You can click on the window to bring it front. Everything is draggable. http://www.troyworks.com/menu.html Troy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Mike Cuesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I'm new to IxDA, glad to be part of this. I wanted to share this interesting article: http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/pie-in-the-sky/ What are your thoughts? - Mike avisena.com mikecuesta.com -- It's easier to invent the future than to predict it. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Of *course* people don't read the TCs. They're too long and convoluted. I sometimes think that's just how the lawyers like it. ;-) A nice solution is: 1. A scrollable text field (or link to a TC page/box) that you can skip if you're so inclined. The legal responsibility for that is yours, just as you can sign a contract without reading it if you want to, but your agreement is still binding. 2. Bold headings through the text that summarise each major point underneath, so at least users can know which things to read carefully. For instance, a heading You have 100 free uses of each image, after which you have to pay would cover the situation someone mentioned earlier. Users eyes would catch the heading as they scroll and they'd know to read this somewhat unexpected clause. The fact that the heading is merely a heading, and not a stand alone plain English summary, makes most lawyers feel much more comfortable. It's a pointer to what to read, not a translation. 3. Anything unusual (and I think the pay after 100 uses situation definitely counts) should be highlighted *outside* of the terms and conditions box as well in the main area of the page, so that users who always skip TC sections have a fighting chance of seeing it. And of course you can try getting the legal team to write English. It can be done so that it's both legally correct and understandable (see the Plain English movement, which has been around for over a decade. For instance, our automotive association in Australia, NRMA, has all its documents in plain English, including its insurance documents, and their world did not collapse. Check this out as a typical example, in particular the what's covered section, which many insurance companies make utterly incomprehensible: http://www.nrma.com.au/documents/policy-booklets/home-policy.pdf This is the book many people in Australia reference, but it's currently out of print. I'm sure it's available somewhere though. http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Plain-English-Robert-Eagleson/dp/064406848 5/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1225258245sr=1-1 And there's also this, which is in print, but I haven't read it so can't comments on its quality: http://www.amazon.com/Legal-Writing-Plain-English-Publishing/dp/02262841 74/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1225258245sr=1-3 Cheers Alinta Thornton User Experience Lead independent digital media web publishing | marketing+technology services | publisher solutions Westside, Level 2 Suite C, 83 O'Riordan Street, Alexandria NSW Australia 2015 PO Box 7160, Alexandria, NSW 2015 W www.idmco.com.au B http://eezia.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chauncey Wilson Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2008 4:23 AM To: Eva Kaniasty Cc: IxDA Discuss Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist The underlying issue here is how legal forms are evaluated. We can evaluate whether people understand the terms, but that is not the same as the evaluation that goes on in court. So, apart from all the opinion about reading comprehension, is there any empirical data on the efficacy of simplified legal forms over more complex legal forms. I see an assumption in these discussion that no one reads the TCs, so is it possible that we are making assumptions without digging in to the details. Perhaps there are many good TC's but we rarely look at them so we are biased toward only the worst examples. Chauncey On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Eva Kaniasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfect timing for this discussion. I get to copy paste my thoughts from another list. :) I think this is an interesting area for us usability folks to talk about. Does legalese really have to be written in a style that is inaccessible to 99% of the population? I would argue that there is a way to express even the most complex legal ideas in language that can be understood by the rest of us. I also think that the tradition of the 6 page terms conditions is often a subterfuge used to slip in terms that users would never agree to if those same terms were put forth in a briefer/clearer form. Legalese is a way to pay lip service to transparency while hiding behind an implementation that is anything but. To me, the very importance of legal considerations argues for making those considerations clear to those who are unwittingly entering into legal agreements by using websites or software. Some recent examples that come to mind are sites whose user agreements conveniently hand over rights to any user-generated content to themselves. Has anybody seen examples of sites that manage to cover themselves legally while using language that is clear and transparent? I have seen some examples on newer websites, but now for the life of me I can't remember where. -eva Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Pie Menus
http://www.troyworks.com/menu.html Sorry, it's a bit hard for me to use it after some trying. there's maybe some reasons 1. adapt to the normal menu design patterns 2. it's easier to read the in line mode instead of circle mode, which may have big influnce on daily point/action work But if it's touchable interface (such as iphone), it maybe different, while there's two hands hold the device, and it maybe easier for operation ( but i suspect the old palm's grid interface, such as Palm Tx, works better on this condition ) Cheers, -- Jarod On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Troy Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love radial / orbital menus which are related to pie. Especially when dealing with deeply nested hierarchies as on windows/web, it's SOOO easy to accidently mouse off a deeply nested menu, and then have to retraverse it, to miss it again! Even back in 2005 I had one on my site (still up). It's actually has more than one depth, and a sort of zooming. It is a mini research project to see how well motion could be used to convey relationship. This is because my previous job was doing neural network visualization and we had saturated color, position for carrying information. There is a button off to the left side to turn visual hierarchy back on. The other thing I tried to explore is navigation vrs reading. You can click on the window to bring it front. Everything is draggable. http://www.troyworks.com/menu.html Troy. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Mike Cuesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I'm new to IxDA, glad to be part of this. I wanted to share this interesting article: http://jonoscript.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/pie-in-the-sky/ What are your thoughts? - Mike avisena.com mikecuesta.com -- It's easier to invent the future than to predict it. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- http://designforuse.blogspot.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
