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2019-08-27 Thread chill
I've extended one of the USB3 ports to the back panel, as well as the ethernet and HDMI ports. Currently I have an SSD connected to that rear panel USB3 extension, but I'm not fixed on keeping it that way. I do also have a 3B+ that runs Jivelite on my TV, as well as handling nightly backups,

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2019-08-27 Thread d6jg
chill wrote: > Yes, it's a hifi amp - a power amp and my primary music source in one. > In a silent room I can hear the fan from about a foot away - no further. > If there's music playing at any volume, the fan is inaudible. It's a > 5V fan, which I'm running on 3.3V. On 5V it is more

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2019-08-27 Thread chill
Yes, it's a hifi amp - a power amp and my primary music source in one. In a silent room I can hear the fan from about a foot away - no further. If there's music playing at any volume, the fan is inaudible. It's a 5V fan, which I'm running on 3.3V. On 5V it is more audible (and more

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2019-08-27 Thread d6jg
chill wrote: > I updated my fan control script to keep a log of the amount of time that > the fan is 'on', and then went a bit nerdy (nerdier?), and worked out > the duty cycle for several different set temperatures. So on a hot > summer's day, inside a hot amplifier, my RPi4 4GB running LMS

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2019-08-27 Thread chill
I updated my fan control script to keep a log of the amount of time that the fan is 'on', and then went a bit nerdy (nerdier?), and worked out the duty cycle for several different set temperatures. So on a hot summer's day, inside a hot amplifier, my RPi4 4GB running LMS and Squeezelite sits

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2019-08-24 Thread Jeff07971
Had exactly the same experience with some small (Pi2/3) heatsinks that had "Genuine 3M heat tranfer tape" Does not sound like the stuff you had though as it was very thin (Like sellotape almost) but was BAD at heat transfer Got some HY910 thermal adhesive from ebay for a couple of quid, works

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2019-08-24 Thread chill
A quick observation about heatsinks and their connection to the CPU. When I first fitted my 40mm x 40mm heatsink I used some ''thermally conductive tape' (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B075R9RGXF)'. It seemed to work, but I was suspicious because it seems to be about 1mm thick, and

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2019-08-23 Thread Jeff07971
chill wrote: > I was interested to see how to control a simple fan in software. To > date my RPi4 seems to run comfortably cooler than the throttling > temperature, but having developed a way to mount a fan in my 'stack' > inside my amplifier, I was keen to see if I could leave it permanently

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2019-08-23 Thread chill
I was interested to see how to control a simple fan in software. To date my RPi4 seems to run comfortably cooler than the throttling temperature, but having developed a way to mount a fan in my 'stack' inside my amplifier, I was keen to see if I could leave it permanently connected but only

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2019-08-14 Thread kidstypike
Just noticed 'this' (https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28=243500=375#p1518239). 27907 +---+ |Filename: tempdrop.jpg | |Download:

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2019-08-11 Thread chill
Greg Erskine wrote: > > I wonder, as the CPU is practically doing nothing, it is probably > throttled back to 600MHz most of the time. The periods of increased > speed are so short it is not captured by temperature sampling period. Sorry Greg - I missed this. I'm not so sure about that. You

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2019-08-11 Thread chill
The amp got up to operating temperature, and I connected the fan at 14:16. It seems to drop the temperature by ~5 degrees. I'm guessing it's no greater because it's mostly just moving warm air around inside the amplifier, as kidstypike suggested. The fan's not really big enough, nor suitably

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2019-08-11 Thread chill
kidstypike wrote: > But you'll need good ventilation into and out of your amp, no good just > blowing hot air onto the Pi4 CPU? That's true, and it has. The baseplate has a grid of mounting holes: [image: http://www.cjh.me.uk/MyPhotobucket/cache/DIYHifi/Enclosure/Base%20plate_480.jpg] And

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2019-08-11 Thread kidstypike
chill wrote: > I made a mount for the fan, to hopefully slot in between my RPi and my > button board. > > [image: > http://www.cjh.me.uk/MyPhotobucket/cache/DIYHifi/Printing%20support_480.jpg] > > [image: > http://www.cjh.me.uk/MyPhotobucket/cache/DIYHifi/Fan%20on%20support_480.jpg] > > Here

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2019-08-11 Thread chill
I made a mount for the fan, to hopefully slot in between my RPi and my button board. [image: http://www.cjh.me.uk/MyPhotobucket/cache/DIYHifi/Printing%20support_480.jpg] [image: http://www.cjh.me.uk/MyPhotobucket/cache/DIYHifi/Fan%20on%20support_480.jpg] Here it's slotted into a mockup, over

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2019-08-11 Thread chill
kidstypike wrote: > But seriously, 'these' > (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TVLTMX3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1) > are good. > Agreed. I needed a case for my spare 4B 1GB, so I ordered one of these on the strength of your earlier post. It arrived this morning. I

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2019-08-11 Thread kidstypike
But seriously, 'these' (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TVLTMX3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1) are good. 27897 27898 +---+ |Filename: good02.jpg | |Download:

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2019-08-11 Thread kidstypike
Man in a van wrote: > Just made another investment > > You're a nut! :D *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi4B 4GB/pCP 6.0.0 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI

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2019-08-11 Thread Man in a van
Just made another investment 27895 27896 +---+ |Filename: acooler1.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27896|

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2019-08-10 Thread Greg Erskine
Thanks for documenting this. I wonder, as the CPU is practically doing nothing, it is probably throttled back to 600MHz most of the time. The periods of increased speed are so short it is not captured by temperature sampling period.

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2019-08-10 Thread chill
I tried to find an underclocking speed that would make my 4B 4GB perform similarly to my 3B+. It's very difficult to find a test that eliminates all the variables. I settled on a single oggenc job on a 90-minute flac file, as I figured that involved a bit of disk read and write, and a lot of

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2019-08-09 Thread chill
Greg Erskine wrote: > Have you had a play with the CPU Governors on the [Tweaks] page? > > By default, pCP uses ondemand. I haven't - didn't even think to look there! Plenty more there to investigate, thank you. I think the 'Powersave' option will do the same as I did when I set 600MHz, but

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2019-08-09 Thread Greg Erskine
Have you had a play with the CPU Governors on the [Tweaks] page? By default, pCP uses ondemand. Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread:

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2019-08-09 Thread chill
chill wrote: > Underclocking seems to make remarkably little difference in my setup - > perhaps 3 degrees under load. Actually, LMS isn't really much of a load. So I ran some consecutive oggenc jobs while LMS was rescanning. Whereas this would have taken the temperature into the low 70s, it

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2019-08-09 Thread chill
Underclocking seems to make remarkably little difference in my setup - perhaps 3 degrees under load. I don't think my setup is completely representative though, because my Pi lives inside my amplifier, where the ambient temperature is higher than normal. So I set it the task of a clear and

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2019-08-09 Thread Jeff07971
chill wrote: > There seems to be a fair amount of resistance to using the Pi4 for LMS, > based on heat issues, and reports seem to suggest that in an enclosed > case with no airflow it can run very hot. I should stress that in my > application, with a 40mm heatsink and a bit of convection

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2019-08-09 Thread chill
There seems to be a fair amount of resistance to using the Pi4 for LMS, based on heat issues, and reports seem to suggest that in an enclosed case with no airflow it can run very hot. I should stress that in my application, with a 40mm heatsink and a bit of convection airflow, running LMS and

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2019-07-23 Thread toby10
What? Every time I see a James Bond movie he is *zipping* around British streets in his Aston without issue! You must be on the wrong streets.. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553

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2019-07-23 Thread cliveb
w3wilkes wrote: > The Ferrari does make the journey a lot more fun and if I had the > Ferrari I'd probably take the long way both to and from the store! I'd guess that any journey in the wide open spaces of Utah is more fun in a Ferrari. I can assure you that it isn't in Watford! Driving in the

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2019-07-22 Thread Jeff07971
edwin2006 wrote: > Stel depend on the weather. When it's raining ING and roads are wet I > would prefer something else beside a Ferrari [emoji6] The wet makes it even more fun, believe me *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest

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2019-07-22 Thread edwin2006
Stel depend on the weather. When it's raining ING and roads are wet I would prefer something else beside a Ferrari [emoji6] *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC +

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2019-07-22 Thread w3wilkes
cliveb wrote: > It's a bit like choosing to go to Tesco (Walmart for our US cousins) in > a Ferrari instead of a Ford - no advantage, and you end up burning more > fuel. The Ferrari does make the journey a lot more fun and if I had the Ferrari I'd probably take the long way both to and from

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2019-07-22 Thread d6jg
cliveb wrote: > All of the good things you mention about why the Pi4 is better than the > Pi3 are perfectly valid when considered in an appropriate context. I > applaud the fact they've decoupled the LAN from USB, and that it now has > USB3. (FWIW, I still think an onboard SATA controller would

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2019-07-22 Thread cliveb
d6jg wrote: > You say that Clive but all Pi variants before 4 feature a shared bus for > the USB and LAN interfaces which is known to be problematic. The Pi4 > splits them and provides a full gigabit LAN and also includes USB3 ports > enabling users to attach a full USB3 drive which is much

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2019-07-22 Thread Man in a van
cliveb wrote: > Been on holiday for a couple of weeks, I'm still waiting for your card, did you lick the stamp properly? :p Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this

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2019-07-22 Thread d6jg
cliveb wrote: > Been on holiday for a couple of weeks, and am perplexed by the direction > this thread has taken while I was away. > It would seem that various people are trying out solutions to potential > overheating problems when running LMS on a Pi4. > I guess using a Pi4 then looking to

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2019-07-21 Thread cliveb
Been on holiday for a couple of weeks, and am perplexed by the direction this thread has taken while I was away. It would seem that various people are trying out solutions to potential overheating problems when running LMS on a Pi4. I guess using a Pi4 then looking to fix any issues that arise

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2019-07-19 Thread chill
Jeff07971 wrote: > Chill, > > Actually looks like quite a good fit. > > I think its becoming clear that without "active" cooling a Pi4 working > hard (and not throttling) in a closed case is going to be difficult ! The fit was much more convenient that I expected - it slid in between the two

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2019-07-17 Thread Jeff07971
Chill, Actually looks like quite a good fit. I think its becoming clear that without "active" cooling a Pi4 working hard (and not throttling) in a closed case is going to be difficult ! *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest

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2019-07-17 Thread chill
My 40mm x 40mm x 11mm heatsink arrived today. It just about fits without having to be trimmed around the camera connector. I used a thermal pad to fix it to the CPU. [image: http://www.cjh.me.uk/MyPhotobucket/cache/DIYHifi/RPi%20Board/Heatsink1_640.jpg] [image:

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2019-07-16 Thread Man in a van
Hi Jeff No major change in the ambient, it may have increased a couple of degrees since I started this morning. I got the command from here https://linuxhint.com/raspberry_pi_temperature_monitor/ Just checked again Code: pi@raspberrypi:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp

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2019-07-16 Thread Jeff07971
Man in a van wrote: > Still showing 55C > > > Code: > > pi@raspberrypi:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp > temp=55.0'C > pi@raspberrypi:~ $ > > > Has the ambient temperature changed while the measurement is being made ? Do not forget that

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2019-07-16 Thread chill
Man in a van wrote: > > then I ordered the header (sigh) just in case and a case, > > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-coupe-4?variant=29210100170835 > > D'Oh! chill's Profile:

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2019-07-16 Thread Man in a van
chill wrote: > That seems quite effective. Will be interesting to see if it can hold > 55 degrees under load. Remind me - is your 4B in any sort of case? > > Man in a van wrote: > and a case, > > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-coupe-4?variant=29210100170835 > > > Still

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2019-07-16 Thread chill
Man in a van wrote: > Well yesterday I ordered one of these, > > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/fan-shim?variant=29210095812691=GBP_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=google+shopping=EAIaIQobChMI-uy276m54wIVx7HtCh1IxwM7EAQYASABEgKOWvD_BwE > That seems quite effective. Will be

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2019-07-16 Thread Man in a van
I just ran the Pimoroni install instructions for automatic control of the fan and set it at the second "example" given. Code: pi@raspberrypi:~ $ vcgencmd measure_temp temp=51.0'C pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo systemctl status pimoroni-fanshim.service

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2019-07-16 Thread Man in a van
Well yesterday ordered one of these, https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/fan-shim?variant=29210095812691=GBP_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=google+shopping=EAIaIQobChMI-uy276m54wIVx7HtCh1IxwM7EAQYASABEgKOWvD_BwE then I ordered the header (sigh) just in case and a case,

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2019-07-15 Thread kidstypike
chill wrote: > I think 80 degrees is the temperature at which throttling kicks in to > control the temperature. Did you notice any effect on LMS - was it any > less snappy? No, I wasn't actually doing anything, just listening to music and watching the temp graph (like you do :)). *Server -

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2019-07-15 Thread chill
I think 80 degrees is the temperature at which throttling kicks in to control the temperature. Did you notice any effect on LMS - was it any less snappy? chill's Profile:

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2019-07-15 Thread kidstypike
kidstypike wrote: > I emailed Lincoln Binns asking if they intended manufacturing a PI-BOX > Pro for the Pi4, MD's reply was: > > We sure do, The new Pi is arriving today (Tuesday) and we just need to > check measurements and make a prototype before its full launch. Hmm . . . I hope they come

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2019-07-14 Thread chill
With the foil wedged so that it's making good contact with the enclosure the performance is a couple of degrees worse than the 'free air' example, but I think a few more folds of foil, some thermal compound, and the 10mm aluminium front panel should all help to claw a bit back. I'm quite happy

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2019-07-14 Thread chill
My improvised thermal bridge - a few folds of aluminium foil wedged between the fins of the small heatsink. The foil doesn't grip very well, so it's held in place with clear tape, but if I go ahead with this then a bit of thermal paste should do the job: [image:

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2019-07-14 Thread Man in a van
chill wrote: > Presumably it was throttling at that stage, or was it just a quick > temperature spike? > > Throttling I guess, or just a warning, it was present for the whole of the build. Apparently it also appeared in Jessie. It was the first time I had seen it as normally I do the build

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2019-07-14 Thread chill
Man in a van wrote: > > and got 82.0 C :rolleyes: > Presumably it was throttling at that stage, or was it just a quick temperature spike? I keep reading that a heatsink or fan is not needed for the safety of the RPi, because the throttling is the failsafe. My impression is that pCP running

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2019-07-14 Thread Man in a van
The build completed in just over 26 minutes. The warning thermometer disappeared and the temp dropped to 71.0 C. phew! what a scorcher :p Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627

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2019-07-14 Thread Man in a van
Yesterday I imaged a new Raspbian Buster on my rpi4B (4gb). There is an updated image on the raspberry site. I ran the updates and install a sceensaver and PiShrink, but kept the install as standard. Right now I'm building a librespot Spotify-Connect client. There is a neat little thermometer

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2019-07-13 Thread Jeff07971
chill wrote: > Yes, it would have been good to have the CPU on the underside (for my > installation certainly), but I suspect they were conscious that this > could affect compatibility with a lot of earlier > installations/cases/fans etc. They seem to have broken compatability with all other

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2019-07-13 Thread chill
Man in a van wrote: > > > There are quite a few reasonably priced solutions appearing already and > more, no doubt, to come.:) I suspect you're right - there'll be more of that type of solution in no time. I think I'll work on making space for such a solution. I'm sure those fans are

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2019-07-13 Thread Man in a van
'I saw this mentioned ' (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/fan-shim) over on https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ There are lots of threads about the "thermal" problem (and some solutions offered or suggested). There are quite a few reasonably priced solutions appearing already and more,

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2019-07-13 Thread chill
That's interesting if the board is part of the thermal design. If the heat is intended to reach the mounting holes, then brass stand-offs should help to pull that heat away. Another option is to use longer stand-offs and make the 'hat' connection via a short ribbon cable. That'll create a bit

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2019-07-13 Thread Jeff07971
chill wrote: > Indeed it might! > > I have the Pi mounted to the front panel via my button PCB: the button > PCB mounts to the chassis front panel, and the Pi mounts behind this PCB > via the GPIO pins, hat-style. I currently use nylon stand-offs/spacers, > but I'm thinking I might swap to

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2019-07-13 Thread chill
Jeff07971 wrote: > Connect the CPU of the Pi4 to the heatsinks, That'll warm them up :D :D > :D Indeed it might! I have the Pi mounted to the front panel via my button PCB: the button PCB mounts to the chassis front panel, and the Pi mounts behind this PCB via the GPIO pins, hat-style. I

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2019-07-13 Thread Jeff07971
Connect the CPU of the Pi4 to the heatsinks, That'll warm them up :D :D :D *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.5 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U2 on Dell T320 *Plugins:*

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2019-07-13 Thread chill
I've been running the pCP6 beta on a 4GB 4B inside my amplifier enclosure. Some first impressions on the heat issues: Running LMS and Squeezelite seem to provide only a very light load to the 4B. CPU temperature seems to be dominated by the ambient temperature and limited airflow inside my

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2019-06-29 Thread Roland0
Daverz wrote: > So it seems like USB 2 is not that big a bottleneck for scanning. Access time is much more relevant for scanning performance than throughput, and USB3 won't help with that. However, the Pi4 supports 'UASP' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_Attached_SCSI), which may explain the

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2019-06-29 Thread Roland0
NeverSimple wrote: > I have a Rock64 in an aluminium housing that uses the case as a > heatsink, a little extruded part of the case makes contact with the cpu > and memory (through heat conducting foil). It really helps to keep the > temps down. Would the PI4 need anything like that (or benefit

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2019-06-28 Thread Daverz
chill wrote: > Some more numbers for comparison. > > My RPi 4 4GB arrived yesterday, so I've had a play with it this evening. > I've done a direct comparison against a 3B+. I installed stretch-lite > on the 3B+ and buster-lite on the 4. I did a bare minimum install of > LMS 7.9.2, with only

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2019-06-28 Thread NeverSimple
kidstypike wrote: > I emailed Lincoln Binns asking if they intended manufacturing a PI-BOX > Pro for the Pi4, MD's reply was: > > We sure do, The new Pi is arriving today (Tuesday) and we just need to > check measurements and make a prototype before its full launch. Interesting case, didn't

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2019-06-28 Thread d6jg
kidstypike wrote: > I also mentioned the problem with the end plate screws, reply was: > > We have sourced a “New” Thread forma which should cut better into the > extrusion. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* -

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2019-06-28 Thread kidstypike
d6jg wrote: > Excellent news. That is still the best case I have found by some way. I also mentioned the problem with the end plate screws, reply was: We have sourced a “New” Thread forma which should cut better into the extrusion. *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0 25K library, playlists

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2019-06-28 Thread d6jg
kidstypike wrote: > I emailed Lincoln Binns asking if they intended manufacturing a PI-BOX > Pro for the Pi4, MD's reply was: > > We sure do, The new Pi is arriving today (Tuesday) and we just need to > check measurements and make a prototype before its full launch. Excellent news. That is

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2019-06-28 Thread kidstypike
d6jg wrote: > 4GB back in stock at The Pi Hut - just ordered one I emailed Lincoln Binns asking if they intended manufacturing a PI-BOX Pro for the Pi4, MD's reply was: We sure do, The new Pi is arriving today (Tuesday) and we just need to check measurements and make a prototype before its

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2019-06-28 Thread d6jg
4GB back in stock at The Pi Hut - just ordered one VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom

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2019-06-27 Thread chill
Some more numbers for comparison. My RPi 4 4GB arrived yesterday, so I've had a play with it this evening. I've done a direct comparison against a 3B+. I installed stretch-lite on the 3B+ and buster-lite on the 4. I did a bare minimum install of LMS 7.9.2, with only the default plugins. I

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2019-06-27 Thread cliveb
Daverz wrote: > If you have time to check, it would be interesting to know how big your > library is (tracks and playing time) and and how long it takes to do a > full clear and rescan. I very rarely do a full clear & rescan - usually I just scan for changes when I add new music to the server.

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2019-06-27 Thread mrw
Man in a van wrote: > OKdo (a sub branch of RS) Thanks for bringing OKdo to my attention. I never saw an announcement from Radiospares (as I still think of them) concerning the launch. mrw's Profile:

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2019-06-27 Thread bpa
Man in a van wrote: > Showing in stock > > https://www.okdo.com/product-choice/pi4models/ What the Irish branch of RS Components (who get deliveries overnight from UK) says > There is always hype and expectation when it comes to any Raspberry Pi > launch, therefore we'd like to make our

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2019-06-27 Thread kidstypike
Man in a van wrote: > Showing in stock > > https://www.okdo.com/product-choice/pi4models/ Ordered! 27591 +---+ |Filename: Order.jpg| |Download:

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2019-06-27 Thread slartibartfast
Man in a van wrote: > Showing in stock > > https://www.okdo.com/product-choice/pi4models/Yeah strange that the bundle > with the power supply is in stock but the board only is out of stock.

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2019-06-27 Thread Man in a van
Showing in stock https://www.okdo.com/product-choice/pi4models/ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690

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2019-06-27 Thread Man in a van
@mherger Actually running more Plugins on the pi. I ran the scan on the pi before installing any Plugins I have just a "clear and rescan" on the fully loaded pi > > The server has finished scanning your media library. > Total Time: 00:01:45 (Thursday, June 27, 2019 / 3:03 PM Much more

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2019-06-27 Thread Man in a van
kidstypike wrote: > Where did you get your 4GB Pi from? :p OKdo (a sub branch of RS) RS say they will have stock later in July, I think. CPC, RS (and OKdo) seem to have better prices :p Man in a van's Profile:

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2019-06-27 Thread Michael Herger
CPC have 1,2 and 4 GB Pi 4's Not on stock, do they? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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2019-06-27 Thread Jeff07971
kidstypike wrote: > Where did you get your 4GB Pi from? :p CPC have 1,2 and 4 GB Pi 4's *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.5 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U2 on Dell T320 *Plugins:*

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2019-06-27 Thread kidstypike
Man in a van wrote: > Mine arrived this morning, 4 GB. Where did you get your 4GB Pi from? :p *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0 25K library playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ >

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-27 Thread Michael Herger
on my old Shuttle with its Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700 @ 2.13GHz The server has finished scanning your media library. Total Time: 00:02:22 (Wed, 12 Jun 2019 / 8.53) on the new pi 4B The server has finished scanning your media library. Total Time: 00:00:36 (Thursday, June 27, 2019 / 12:06

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-27 Thread Man in a van
Mine arrived this morning, 4 GB. I only have a small library; on my old Shuttle with its Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700 @ 2.13GHz > > The server has finished scanning your media library. > Total Time: 00:02:22 (Wed, 12 Jun 2019 / 8.53) > on the new pi 4B > The server has finished scanning

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-27 Thread Daverz
cliveb wrote: > My Pi3 works perfectly as an LMS server. And I've got an old Pi1 running > as a player. > The extra capability of the Pi4 is welcome for lots of applications, but > not really relevant to us. If you have time to check, it would be interesting to know how big your library is

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-27 Thread Mollymorgen
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Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-25 Thread slartibartfast
cliveb wrote: > My Pi3 works perfectly as an LMS server. And I've got an old Pi1 running > as a player. > The extra capability of the Pi4 is welcome for lots of applications, but > not really relevant to us.I use MusicIP which can use a lot of RAM so an > increase would be very welcome if swap

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-25 Thread bpa
d6jg wrote: > I slightly disagree. The weak point of the Pi to date has been the > shared bus for the LAN & USB. In normal use it doesn't show itself but > if you run 24/7 and have a bunch of synced players connected to it then > you will notice some "drift" that you don't get with more

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-25 Thread d6jg
cliveb wrote: > My Pi3 works perfectly as an LMS server. And I've got an old Pi1 running > as a player. > The extra capability of the Pi4 is welcome for lots of applications, but > not really relevant to us. I slightly disagree. The weak point of the Pi to date has been the shared bus for the

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-25 Thread cliveb
d6jg wrote: > I saw the announcement the other day. The increased RAM versions should > be ideal for an LMS server with storage via USB3 My Pi3 works perfectly as an LMS server. And I've got an old Pi1 running as a player. The extra capability of the Pi4 is welcome for lots of applications, but

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread Apesbrain
d6jg wrote: > I use one of these for that job > https://hifime.uk/DACs/sabre-dac-uae23 Sure, just as I use a HiFiBerry HAT, but how much more elegant it would be to just put S/PDIF on the board! Apesbrain's Profile:

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread d6jg
Apesbrain wrote: > I wish they'd add a S/PDIF output. That 1/8" jack could easily be a > combo mini-optical/analog. I use one of these for that job https://hifime.uk/DACs/sabre-dac-uae23 VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread Apesbrain
I wish they'd add a S/PDIF output. That 1/8" jack could easily be a combo mini-optical/analog. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread d6jg
Man in a van wrote: > HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/ (\"HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/\") > > Haven't yet read the puff:eek: I saw the announcement the other day. The increased RAM versions should be ideal for an LMS server with storage via USB3 VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living

[slim] Pitastic

2019-06-24 Thread Man in a van
HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/ (\"HTTPS://WWW.RASPBERRYPI.ORG/\") Haven't yet read the puff:eek: Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: