Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 3:17 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > >> On 04/11/2019 18:36, Jordan Schidlowsky wrote: >> If people are really concerned about the bug/issue tracking being tied to >> github's platform, then just do in-repository tracking. Pretty simple. If >> you wanna take advantage of

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Hi, Gregory Casamento wrote: TBH most of this thread is FUD.  git itself solves almost all these problems.  IMHO, use GitHub as a remote for the repo (the advantages are clear).  If some don't like GitHub or have issues with it, mirror.  If there are concerns about vendor

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On 04/11/2019 18:36, Jordan Schidlowsky wrote: If people are really concerned about the bug/issue tracking being tied to github's platform, then just do in-repository tracking.  Pretty simple.  If you wanna take advantage of the GitHub platform for pull requests and issue tracking then do it.  

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Hi, Matt Rice wrote: I kind of like this, What I suppose I would really like is if bug reports had good support for markdown format, and you could integrate markdown code blocks directly into the bug thread and extract them as testcases for use in the testsuite. I don't know if there is

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 3:20 AM Jordan Schidlowsky wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Matt Rice wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:59 AM Gregory Casamento > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:36 PM Jordan Schidlowsky > >>> wrote: >

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Matt Rice wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:59 AM Gregory Casamento > wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:36 PM Jordan Schidlowsky >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is everyone here forgetting git is not svn? git is a DISTRIBUTED >>>

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:59 AM Gregory Casamento wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:36 PM Jordan Schidlowsky > wrote: >> >> Is everyone here forgetting git is not svn? git is a DISTRIBUTED versioning >> system. As in, when you use checkout a repo you have a copy of the ENTIRE >>

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:36 PM Jordan Schidlowsky wrote: > Is everyone here forgetting git is not svn? git is a DISTRIBUTED > versioning system. As in, when you use checkout a repo you have a copy of > the ENTIRE repository. Github is really just another remote for the repo. > It's absolutely

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Is everyone here forgetting git is not svn? git is a DISTRIBUTED versioning system. As in, when you use checkout a repo you have a copy of the ENTIRE repository. Github is really just another remote for the repo. It's absolutely TRIVIAL to setup a mirror on whatever other service you like

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

What can I say?! Thank you for your time writing all this stuff. I appreciate it! You reminded me I have to go check this open source vs free source issue. Anyway, I think if GitHub it’s currently the “best” option it doesn’t mean one day there could not be a Free Software better alternative to

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 11:16 AM Umberto Cerrato wrote: > > Yeah… > > Just sayin’… > > Do you know how can GitHub achieve that? Yes, I indeed do. By having "501 to 1000 employees": https://www.glassdoor.ie/Overview/Working-at-GitHub-EI_IE671945.11,17.htm who are working on developing the

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Yeah… Just sayin’… Do you know how can GitHub achieve that? It gives its services for free basically… Anyway, honestly I like and prefer GitHub. It had success for reasons. It’s more user-friendly, it does work, everyone know “how to use it”. There are really a lot of pros to it. I think it

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

I’ll answer as if you are asking the question and not asking rhetorically. Whoever hosts the project takes over the responsibility for: - storing user credentials - abuse management - security and service upgrades - data migration when moving from service A to service B - possibly even GDPR and

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On 04/11/2019 10:26, Umberto Cerrato wrote: Why don’t you self host your project in your own website? Something like a self hosted Savannah or similar (there are few around). Then you could: modify the UI to make it more GitHub-like and user friendly and leave some landing projects on GitHub,

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Why don’t you self host your project in your own website? Something like a self hosted Savannah or similar (there are few around). Then you could: modify the UI to make it more GitHub-like and user friendly and leave some landing projects on GitHub, GitLab etc. that redirect to your e.g.

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

On 04/11/2019 08:29, Fred Kiefer wrote: Sorry, I have to disagree on this point. I was present in the Dublin meeting where we discussed the migration to GitHub and we explicitly decided to leave the bug tracking on savannah. There should be even some results from this meeting where these

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

> Am 04.11.2019 um 06:45 schrieb Gregory Casamento : > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 6:40 PM Riccardo Mottola > wrote: > > But the project had to stay on savannah, it was never agreed to move > > anything except the code. Git would also allow in the feature a more a > > painless "move out". >

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Guys, On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 6:40 PM Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi Fred, > > > Fred Kiefer wrote: > > As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political > discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have > to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Hi Fred, Fred Kiefer wrote: As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug tracker move would have been helpful. And I

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Yes, I can't explain it. I didn't get a moderator email either... I am the moderator on the list, so if it were rejected I would have gotten notified. GC [image: Mailtrack] Sender notified by Mailtrack

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

When I look at the archives it isn’t there: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnustep-dev/2019-05/index.html Maybe it got stuck. Did you send it from the address you’re subscribed to the list to? regards, Lars > Am 02.11.2019 um 20:01 schrieb Gregory Casamento : > > *shrug* I sent

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

*shrug* I sent it. I'm not certain why it didn't go through to the list. On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:49 PM Ivan Vučica wrote: > FWIW not in my archive when I search for Savannah > > sent from phone > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:46 Gregory Casamento > wrote: > >> Please see the image attached. >>

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

FWIW not in my archive when I search for Savannah sent from phone On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 18:46 Gregory Casamento wrote: > Please see the image attached. > > [image: Mailtrack] > > Sender > notified by >

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

I sent out an email. I don't know why it didn't reach the list. I sent it on gnustep-dev. [image: Mailtrack] Sender notified by Mailtrack

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

TBH, I'm not sure that an explicit decision was made to leave the bug tracker on savannah. I think we just left it there and didn't really discuss it. The issue I saw was that it had the potential to cause confusion. Normally, the bug tracker exists in the same place as the code. Regarding

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

I don't mind this myself as I didn't look at Savannah tracker, but I personally cannot find those words you quoted. They're not in my email archive except in this particular thread. So perhaps there was indeed no explained announcement of the change? *shrug* sent from phone On Sat, Nov 2,

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

One was given... entitled "Bug reporting access restricted on savannah - All new bugs to be reported on github" It was ignored entirely. GC " [image: Mailtrack] Sender notified by Mailtrack

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Hello everyone Am 02.11.19 um 10:30 schrieb Ivan Vučica: > I don't care much whether issues are hosted on GH. It's very practical > for existing users, if they are, but it means being stuck on the > platform I myself don't like to use (I am still on Bitbucket, at least > until I get time to

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Not advocating for Savannah in one way or another, but as I remember it: tl;dr GitHub move happened because of a series of events: GNA shutdown pushed for git conversion, and GitHub being easy to go to. And despite the opposition, not because we wanted to go there. And a lot of subprojects

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

As most of you may remember, I prefer to stay out of these political discussions. Discussing code is frustrating enough. But this time I have to step up for Yavor. All he wrote was the an announcement about the bug tracker move would have been helpful. And I would go even further on that

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Gregory Casamento wrote: > Someone refusing to submit bugs due to the fact that they might need > a github account isn't going to change that. It was not my intention to change that and I never said that I would stop submitting bugs. I am not a significant contributor to this project so I don't

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de написал(а): > > > > Am 02.11.2019 um 04:56 schrieb Svetlana Tkachenko > > : > > > >> Many of these decisions were made by consensus... > >> moving to github was not my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. > > > > Is there a link to this

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

> Am 02.11.2019 um 04:56 schrieb Svetlana Tkachenko : > >> Many of these decisions were made by consensus... >> moving to github was not my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. > > Is there a link to this discussion for Yavor's reference? >

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

> Many of these decisions were made by consensus... > moving to github was not my idea alone it was myself and the maintainers. Is there a link to this discussion for Yavor's reference?

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

I really need to be upfront and frank on this subject because it really upsets me. I am getting really tired of these petty political arguments getting in the way of making real progress on this project. I am really not ready to hear "I don't wanna do this... I'm not gonna sign up for this

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Gregory Casamento wrote: > Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. An announcement would have been nice. > Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be > added. I cannot update existing bugs, perhaps only project members can. That's OK. > Track bugs on github where the main

Re: Savannah bug tracker disabled?

Yes, it is disabled to avoid confusion. Existing bugs can be updated and closed, but no new ones can be added. Track bugs on github where the main development is now happening. [image: Mailtrack] Sender

Savannah bug tracker disabled?

I noticed that I cannot comment on bugs that I filed; there's a message on top saying: | You are not allowed to post comments on this tracker with your | current authentication level. It is not possible to submit a new bug either so the only reasonable explanation is that the tracker was