Re: [tdf-discuss] My application was rejected, ;-(

complicating the official governance? Regards, S. -- Simon Phipps, http://webmink.com/ OSI Director, FSFE Fellow, Document Foundation Member -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [steering-discuss] confcall in CW 19 on Thursday

Will you be discussing the Brazil situation? {Terse? Mobile!} On May 11, 2011 10:08 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, the next Steering Committee phone conference for calendar week 19 is tomorrow: Thursday, May 12th, 1600 UTC (=1800 German time) For your

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

On 3 Jun 2011, at 19:59, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 01/06/2011 Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:51:09AM -0700, NoOp wrote: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ TDF's statement

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

There's an important concept in Michael Meeks' e-mail that mustn't get lost: On 4 Jun 2011, at 17:03, Michael Meeks wrote: The problem is, that very much of our work is inter-dependent, and we want people to be able to work all over the code, cleaning, translating and fixing it. It

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 5 Jun 2011, at 16:00, Jim Jagielski wrote: Assuming that these are question that you are serious about wanting answers to, I will attempt to do so. On Jun 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: What can the Apache Foundation provide to OpenOffice? A formal, legal foundation.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 5 Jun 2011, at 16:09, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: Given these plain facts Others have started with similar plain facts, but have since found it productive to listen and even begun to indicate a willingness to consider sharing

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 5 Jun 2011, at 16:20, Jim Jagielski wrote: Personally, I don't think it's inevitable at all, nor do I think it the place for people to make such statements on behalf of communities that they have, as far as I know, only limited associations with. Actually I am a TDF Member and have a

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 4 Jun 2011, at 19:06, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: I should think there is probably broader commercial or legal reason for Oracle to hold on to the copyright such as tax relief or just in case it *might* somehow become valuable.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 5 Jun 2011, at 16:57, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 5, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: Hey, chill. As Sam says, there's no ideology involved, just choices. The last thing I want is an ideological debate because I already know how it turns out. That's why I think it would be far

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: RE : Re: RE: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 5 Jun 2011, at 00:32, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: As far as I know, there is only the intent of Oracle to donate it unter the Apache License, but no clear statement has been made as to what exact sourcecode

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 5 Jun 2011, at 18:42, Greg Stein wrote: As long as each entity holds to these principles (and there is no indication either intends to change), then I believe direct joining of forces will not be possible. The hope is to find other ways to cooperate. Any idea what the best venue for that

[tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 8 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Op 6-6-2011 11:37, toki schreef: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 15:00, Jim Jagielski wrote: A formal, legal foundation. The ASF is a recognized 501(c)3, non-

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 9 Jun 2011, at 00:12, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 8 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Op 6-6-2011 11:37, toki schreef: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 9 Jun 2011, at 00:43, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: Certainly being an independent, legally established foundation is critical, isn't it, as compare to one which is just a legally established one? Not saying that TDF isn't at all

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 9 Jun 2011, at 02:26, donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: With respect to my introduction, I think you must have been off making very professional photographs and did not notice my post[1] Was that cross-posted here too? I didn't see it in my TDF mailbox when I looked (which may just be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 9 Jun 2011, at 12:12, Simon Brouwer wrote: Hi Jim, all, Jim Jagielski schreef: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 8 Jun 2011, at 23:49, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Op 6-6-2011 11:37, toki schreef: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 9 Jun 2011, at 19:47, Simon Brouwer wrote: Anyway, I think it is high time that TDF be made a foundation proper. Suppose Oracle had considered donating the OpenOffice.org trademarks and copyrights to TDF. How could it be the recipient of such a donation if it didn't exist as a legal

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 9 Jun 2011, at 23:06, Robert Derman wrote: Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi, 2011/6/9 Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl: Suppose Oracle had considered donating the OpenOffice.org trademarks and copyrights to TDF. How could it be the recipient of such a donation if it didn't exist as

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 10 Jun 2011, at 00:24, Manfred Usselmann wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:44:15 +0100 Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: [...] Detail: There is already a non-profit in existence; it's name is Freies Office Deutschland e.V. (eV is a German suffix a bit like Ltd or Inc), e.V

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 10 Jun 2011, at 07:25, Simon Brouwer wrote: I don't understand your reasoning in that last part. In which case, having already made a huge effort to explain clearly and factually, I give up. Yes there is an existing legal entity in the picture, but it is not TDF but FroDEV, and it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 10 Jun 2011, at 14:55, BRM wrote: You know, usually when an organization (such as TDF) is legally owned by another organization you list it at the bottom of the web-page where you are stating information about copyright, trademarks, etc - e.g. TDF is a wholly owned by FroDEV. It's

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 10 Jun 2011, at 16:53, Jim Jagielski wrote: I would recommend that TDF make their own determinations... After all, it would be trivially easy for someone at the ASF to make a counterpoint blogpost recommending AL... If people are swayed by what FSF (or anyone else) says without giving

[tdf-discuss] Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting

On 10 Jun 2011, at 21:09, Greg Stein wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to bring an FYI that the Apache Incubator has begun its voting process on accepting the OO.o proposal to become a podling within the Incubator. At the moment, it appears to be passing by a huge margin, with only two

Re: [tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

On 14 Jun 2011, at 06:55, Keith Curtis wrote: Hi all; I had an idea that you could offer to let people triple-license their changes. LibreOffice can become an upstream of Apache with this change. That way people not interested in setting up build servers, etc. can work here while Apache

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:09, Greg Stein wrote: Our charitable status specifically precludes us from competition. What does it say about collaborating with others? Anything? (serious question, I have no idea). S. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:16, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 07:00, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 14 Jun 2011, at 06:55, Keith Curtis wrote: Hi all; I had an idea that you could offer to let people triple-license their changes. LibreOffice can become an upstream

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:54, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 14 Jun 2011, at 16:09, Greg Stein wrote: Our charitable status specifically precludes us from competition. What does it say about collaborating with others? Anything? (serious

Re: [tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

On 14 Jun 2011, at 18:27, Greg Stein wrote: For a larger body of work, these kinds of (non-CLA) contributions become less clear. And without clear provenance, then Apache may not be able to take it.[1] Is the provenance that TDF secures at present sufficient for Apache's purposes? I'm

Re: [tdf-discuss] First TDF Advisory Board members demonstrate wide corporate support for LibreOffice

I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news. Is it possible in future to include such a URL in the news item please? Given you are using WordPress to publish the news, it's easy to know

Re: [tdf-discuss] First TDF Advisory Board members demonstrate wide corporate support for LibreOffice

On 15 Jun 2011, at 13:28, Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi Simon, 2011/6/15 Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com: I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news. Is it possible in future

Re: [tdf-discuss] First TDF Advisory Board members demonstrate wide corporate support for LibreOffice

On 15 Jun 2011, at 13:54, Volker Merschmann wrote: So it must be the way blogging-copying the link-pasting to mail-sending the announcement with the link. Not nice, but possible. In WordPress, the URL is known before publication, so there's no need to blog first. Nice clean :-) S. --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

May I suggest we call time[1] on this discussion please? S. [1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Time%20Gentlemen%20Please -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

Hi Allen, While I am rather tired of this combative thread of discussion and think it is way overdue for it to stop, you make some statements that can't be left unchallenged. On 16 Jun 2011, at 15:43, Allen Pulsifer wrote: Allen Pulsifer wrote: Hello Thorsten, I do not agree with your

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 16 Jun 2011, at 16:58, Allen Pulsifer wrote: You could have also been one of those persons with a seat at the table, and together, we would have had twice the voice as Rob Weir. Excuse me? What are all the contributions I am making on that list? Chopped liver? S. -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

could have also been one of those persons with a seat at the table, and together, we would have had twice the voice as Rob Weir. Simon Phipps replied: Excuse me? What are all the contributions I am making on that list? Chopped liver? Pretty much, yes. As a person who chose not to have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

On 18 Jun 2011, at 11:35, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-15 17.28: Maybe it's a language issue, but no, the imprint does nothing at all to make it clear. It simply says, in effect, FroDev wrote the content and they are responsible for the content on the

Re: [tdf-discuss] When can we have a API to send Emails ?

It's good to see Zawinski's Law[1] still applies even after all these years :-) S. [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: Embedding Goodies in the ODF Package (was RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard ... )

On 27 Jun 2011, at 04:47, Marc Paré wrote: The problem with this is that now someone has to fish the fonts out of there and install them where they are actually recognized for presenting the document. If LibreOffice is updated to automate the capture of fonts and their extraction again,

Re: Embedding Goodies in the ODF Package (was RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: ANN: ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard ... )

On 27 Jun 2011, at 18:13, Steve Edmonds wrote: OO had the option to install fonts only for the use of OO, not system wide use. This was done through spadmin I think. I wonder how that was implemented. Not embedded fonts, though. Having once in my life tried to work out how to send

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF fundraising suggestion - Bitcoin

On 11 Jul 2011, at 17:00, Simos Xenitellis wrote: I would say that it is up to the users (members of the discuss@documentfoundation.org) to express their interest in mining for Bitcoins using their computer power, and donating to the TDF. If there is some initial interest to go into this

Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction

On 12 Jul 2011, at 16:09, Jomar Silva wrote: I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the 90's, the good'n'old Star Office. : I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice. Fantastic to see you here Jomar, welcome! And congratulations on the agreement

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

On 12 Jul 2011, at 19:08, Jomar Silva wrote: Hi, There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list regarding the place to host extensions (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/). It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some problems, and it will be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Discussion

On 23 Sep 2011, at 04:44, Norman Frazier wrote: Please inform me of the duties and responsibilities of a Directors position. There's a useful overview at https://elections.documentfoundation.org/overview.html Regards S. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

[tdf-discuss] Document Foundation Board 2011: Final Results

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Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

On 31 Oct 2011, at 11:33, Thorsten Behrens wrote: what *I* think is that Joe Random User typically wields his search engine of choice, and clicks on whatever appears promising on the first result page - and *then* maybe gets sucked into whatever forum/list/stackexchange platform is behind

Re: [tdf-discuss] XAdES digital signature extension

On 3 Nov 2011, at 16:54, Davide Dozza wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I would like to signal the release of an extension for OOo which implements the XAdES digital signature into ODF documents (at the moment only .odt). Such extension is compliant with

Re: [tdf-discuss] Error open docs created with LibO 3.3 in LibO 3.5

Hi A On 16 Feb 2012, at 10:22, firstname lastname wrote: The script is not a sustainable solution! Are you guys not seeing the severity of this? If he has this problem. Sure some bright fella' can write a script which will solve his problem. But this problem will and allready has scaled

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Impress Bug for pptx files.

Hi lj. Thanks for your support for LibreOffice. This list is not a good one for questions aimed at the developers as they don't hang out here much. You are more likely to get a helpful response by posting a question at http://ask.libreoffice.org (but for what it's worth, the bug report you

Re: [tdf-discuss] Licenses for extensions

On 8 Mar 2012, at 10:16, Flavio Moringa wrote: I guys, I have a simple doubt about the licensing scheme to be used for building extensions. I known that to be published on the extensions web site they have to have an Open Source Licence (GPL, BSD,etc...) But if you just want to make

Re: [tdf-discuss] Security Advisories

On 23 Mar 2012, at 01:26, NoOp wrote: Why is it that security advisories such as this: https://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/CVE-2012-0037/ are not posted on the user or announce lists? The only way I found out about this was via a Redhat bug report:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Security Advisories

On 23 Mar 2012, at 01:56, NoOp wrote: Are these the posts that you are referring to? http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/03/22/tdf-announces-libreoffice-3-4-6/ That one now has a link to the CVE as the embargo has been lifted.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Security Advisories

On 23 Mar 2012, at 18:13, NoOp wrote: I think that you and Simon are missing the message I was attempting to convey. I'll repeat my original question: Why is it that security advisories such as this: https://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/CVE-2012-0037/ are not posted on the user or

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

I agree with this too. Well, apart from the bit about building a team for marketing. When we actually attempt a marketing project, we do pretty well; we had CDs for OSCON and we've a conference coming up for example. With more, more concrete projects (with fixed timescales and clear deliverables)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

opening up ODF formats in office 2010 and above on windows. -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:11 PM To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dual licensing of patches and code

How could you possibly infer from any earlier answer that triple-licensed contributions would be inherently refused? Like Andrew Pitonyak I read exactly the opposite. Florian said that in the sort of theoretical argument you're attempting, code under a triple license is just as acceptable and

[tdf-discuss] Re: Dual licensing of patches and code

On 13-03-09, at 05:39 , Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: The conversation below happened in public, but not on the OpenOffice public lists. I believe it's good to record its outcome here on the OpenOffice dev list too. Do you know why the question was asked and settled in secret

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dual licensing of patches and code

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: In Andrea's post, the contribution page on the AOO Wiki is offered as the Apache OpenOffice response to Jim Jagielski's question: Thanks, Dennis - I'd pieced all that together from the posts I could find. What

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dual licensing of patches and code

are dual-licensed (alv2-lgplv3) or triple-licensed (alv2-mpl-lgplv3). They are on records as saying so. I am simply seeing if TDF and LO are just as willing. So far, more time has been spent on bypassing the question than simply answering it. On Mar 10, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Simon Phipps si

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dual licensing of patches and code

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: exhaustively, yes, but not concretely. The exhaustive reply boils down to it depends, which is really no answer at all. Furthermore, it implies that the simply inclusion of the alv2 as part of the license suite *does*

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?

Inspired by this and some other similar conversations, here's my thought: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2860074/open-source-software/become-an-open-source-software-tester.html S. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems?

Re: [tdf-discuss] Returning to OpenOffice

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Ivan Stephen istep...@vaxxine.com wrote: I'm working with one fairly large spreadsheet of 126 KB (well, it isn't really THAT large). It contains no formulas or macros, just about 24 columns and 2500 rows, plus six more small spreadsheets. Many cells have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Returning to OpenOffice - Large SS file

Thanks, Ivan. I'll offer it to the developers as a test case, but you may also want to submit it to the AOO folk as you mentioned it's slower to open in AOO and they will presumably want to fix that (which is what I meant in my regrettably unclear response). While I help out moderating a list over

Re: [tdf-discuss] Installing on Mac OS X

We use LibreOffice Vanilla from the App Store these days - works well & stay updated automatically. Would that work for you too, Larry? S. On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > Once again I can't open LibreOffice after upgrading to >

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Mike Hall wrote: > On 27/04/2016 21:18, Italo Vignoli wrote: > >> By using C-Fonts, you are therefore producing documents with limited >> interoperability >> C-Fonts are not interoperable also in technical terms, >> > That's good

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Thanks for the interview today

On 10 Jun 2011, at 12:22, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Italo Vignoli wrote: http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2077963/libreoffice-ready-commercial-distribution-months-document-foundation http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2077979/document-foundation-promises-enterprise-ready-libreoffice-august

Re: [steering-discuss] SC calls via Mumble or OpenMeetings

On 27 Jun 2011, at 09:00, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote: In my opinion, the Steering Committee calls will take place on the regular phone line in the future as well. I do *not* anticipate Mumble or OpenMeetings for that, as often people join from on the road, and a

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

On 8 Jul 2011, at 13:09, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Except screen-shots in Windows can't have any useful arrows or circles to point out the exact thing being talked about in the documentation. Only screenshots of /Microsoft/ products. They can't even be cropped to show off particular

Re: [steering-discuss] Request for changes of Membership Committee

On 12 Jul 2011, at 15:51, Andre Schnabel wrote: Von: Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com I'd also like to ensure that we have more core, and/or code contributors in there - or perhaps I'm missing something. My primary goal is to have people at the MC who attent meetings so that we

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

The Steering Committee acknowledges that there is a small legal risk involved for screenshots on non-free operating systems, but the risk is deemed low. This is too strong. The fact is, every action any project takes is subject to legal risk. Name one that isn't. All that's happened here is

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

:-) What is the precise issue you have with the proposed amended language, Tom? Please be specific so we aren't just appealing to the gallery here. I assert that the language I am proposing is a minor change that has the same effect as the earlier text but ensures we do not leave hostages to

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

-- Simon Phipps, http://webmink.com/ +44 774 776 2816 or +1 415 683 7660 Independent Global Open Source Expertise On 10 Aug 2011, at 09:21, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Simon, Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-07 14:44: This is too strong. The fact is, every action any project takes

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

On 10 Aug 2011, at 15:04, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 31/07/11 16:53, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Florian, hmmm... do I get it right that not mentioning any trademark protection is better than mentioning that a mark is protected, but not naming the registrant? The easiest way

Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots

On 12 Aug 2011, at 14:48, David Nelson wrote: Hi Florian, On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: based on the feedback, this would be my proposal to vote on: I suppose the minor corrections below fall in the category of the beauty

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

On 12 Aug 2011, at 10:02, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Caolan McNamara wrote on 2011-08-11 12:26: Alright, swap the logos, default to non TDF one. if we do so, are there any objections to my proposed trademark policy change? Here it is again for convenience: old version: ==

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

On 22 Aug 2011, at 20:18, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Simon, Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-21 22:32: As a matter of general style I believe TDF should not use the controversial expression intellectual property anywhere. I suggest the following phrase: LibreOffice and The Document

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: trademark use request

On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:03, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 23/08/11 10:18, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Second thoughts, subject to international copyright laws. Uses are explained our trademark policy. better still : Use thereof is explained in our trademark policy. I agree

Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe

On 26 Aug 2011, at 10:32, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Italo, thanks for your engagement! Italo Vignoli wrote on 2011-08-26 11:04: Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement. Given that we can pay this from

Re: [steering-discuss] SPI donation page

On 11 Sep 2011, at 11:57, Sophie Gautier wrote: - have an address (e-mail) where the donation notifications should be sent. As the liaison, I can give mine (gautier.sop...@documentfoundation.org) if you want While there's no problem at all doing this, my experience in multiple groups

Re: [steering-discuss] Election of Directors

John: Are you a TDF Member as per the election rules[1] please? I can't find you on the list[2]. Cheers Simon -- Simon Phipps Election Officer, TDF 2011 Elections On 29 Sep 2011, at 11:17, John Rose wrote: My full name is: John Aaron Rose e-mail: john.aaron.r...@googlemail.com

[steering-discuss] BoD Election Candidates

Charles-H Schulz Andras Timar Italo Vignoli Alexander Werner If you believe there is an error in this list, please contact me immediately. The Candidate List will become final at midnight UTC. -- Simon Phipps Election Officer, TDF 2011 Elections -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

the election. Appropriate questions for candidates relate to their suitability to perform the duties of a Director of The Document Foundation[1], which definitely and intentionally do not include developing the code or the documentation. S. -- Simon Phipps Election Officer, TDF 2011 Elections

[steering-discuss] Election Discussions To Discuss List

As per the election rules[1], please direct you candidate questions and responses to disc...@documentfoundation.org and not to here - thanks. S. [1] https://elections.documentfoundation.org/2011/rules.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

On 9 Oct 2011, at 13:57, David Nelson wrote: Hi Simon, On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Simon Phipps webm...@opensource.org wrote: You're asking a development question that's not among the duties of a member of the Board of Directors. You're obviously welcome to ask community members

Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

On Oct 9, 2011 3:04 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: It would have been so much simpler if the candidates had been allowed to answer for themselves. Hey, cool it. No-one is stopping them answering; I'm explaining why they are not. Please read what I wrote calmly and, if you still

[steering-discuss] Re: Token for voting

://elections.documentfoundation.org/ says it should be asked for electi...@documentfoundation.org. That was where I have sent my first request to. Thanks in advance for your help. 2011/10/11 Simon Phipps webm...@documentfoundation.org The e-mail you gave us was paulo.s.l...@gmail.com - please can

Re: [board-discuss] [RESULT] New Membership Committee voted by the board

: * Andre Schnabel * Fridrich Strba * Norbert Thiebaud * Simon Phipps * Sophie Gautier and the following individuals as their deputies: * Cor Nouws * Drew Jensen We would like to ask all successful candidates to formally accept their vote, by replying

Re: [board-discuss] New foundation web pages published

On 16 Nov 2011, at 14:16, Michael Meeks wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 18:59 +0100, André Schnabel wrote: as noticed before, I published some new pages at the foundation website: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ Looks lovely ! :-) thanks for that. Hopefully it'll

Re: [board-discuss] Moving forward on the partner NGOs

On 16 Feb 2012, at 11:57, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, Charles-H.Schulz wrote on 2012-01-18 12:47: I'd like to move forward on the topic of partner NGOs and the Document Foundation. We have so far two wiki pages, one which is rather broader than the topic:

Re: [board-discuss] payment service

On 24 Mar 2012, at 20:13, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, JFYI: as discussed during one of the previous calls, I just contacted a payment service (ePayment) for a quote. Several people asked for a possibility to pay without PayPal, and the corporation I've contacted does offer that,

Re: [board-discuss] payment options

One more to add to your list is XE Trade (which is part of Western Union). I have used them for several years. They provide bank-to-bank transfers without any fees (apart from the usual exchange rate spread of course). I note that SPI uses them for payments too. http://www.xe.com/xetrade/ S.

Re: [board-discuss] payment options

On 8 Apr 2012, at 19:06, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Simon, Simon Phipps wrote on 2012-04-08 15:41: One more to add to your list is XE Trade (which is part of Western Union). I have used them for several years. They provide bank-to-bank transfers without any fees (apart from the usual

[board-discuss] Collateral Scheme

Summary: I propose a scheme for LibreOffice supporters to get materials to use at events. I ask for collaborators and I request an OK for the Board. == Explanation == You may recall that Jean Hollis Weber made a great offer to LibreOffice from the Friends of OpenDocument group a few weeks

Re: [board-discuss] Collateral Scheme

On 1 May 2012, at 09:35, Michael Meeks wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 00:19 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: == Call for Action == * Who would be willing to collaborate with me on this? * Is there an upcoming event we can set as a goal so we have a target (lat May-early June)? * Board

[board-discuss] OSCON Expenses

I've asked around and it seems I am the only member of the Membership Committee or Board likely to be going to OSCON and/or the Community Leadership Summit in Portland, OR, USA in July. I'm attending at my own expense (well, I am actually getting various organisations to chip in to cover the

Re: [board-discuss] T-shirts with LibreOffice logo

with TDF included is for official uses (people representing TDF), and another logo (without TDF) is for community uses. I would also like to make t-shirts with the community-use logo available for sale to the public, with all profits to TDF. I realise that others (including Simon Phipps) have

Re: [board-discuss] OSCON Expenses

is to be archived by the BoD members and their deputies. Florian Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-06-16 16:39: +1 Em 14-06-2012 10:09, Simon Phipps escreveu: I've asked around and it seems I am the only member of the Membership Committee or Board likely to be going to OSCON and/or the Community

Re: [board-discuss] Travel Expenses Reimbursement Policy

On 27 Jun 2012, at 15:40, Thorsten Behrens wrote: The policy though states that TDF will reimburse or pay the cost... ...of the lowest coach class fare - which I read that TDF does not insist on you actually booking coach. Of course, that statement is almost meaningless in today's air

[board-discuss] Declaration of Internet Freedom

Please will the Board consider adding TDF as a signatory to the Declaration of Internet Freedom: http://www.internetdeclaration.org/freedom Thanks, S.

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