Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-07-27 Thread flo72
After 8 years of using Napster, the fact that old Squeezeboxes like the Receiver (and the Controller some time ago) are no longer supported and new options in the Squeezebox-universe (like my RaspberryPi solutions) were never supported at all, I also decided to cancel my Napster subscription. In

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-07-24 Thread DrewSB
pippin wrote: Which issue? The Rhapsody issue or the single-track-for-Spotify one? Technically possible: sure. Allowed by Rhapsody: probably not, they have end-to-end encryption in their security concept, they have to assure that. That's the whole reason for all this hassle. I'm curious how

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-07-24 Thread pippin
Bluetooth is degraded audio, SPDIF is something you can do on Squeezebox, too, and Apple does create an unbelievable amount of work to make sure AirPlay is mostly secure. End of the day this is all nonsense and I have to speculate about what exactly Rhapsody's contracts say since I don't know

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-06-25 Thread ademathews
MrClive wrote: I've as in exactly the same position and have done exactly the same thing. Using MAx2play to run Spotify although it does cost a £10 per month compared to £5 (dropped Napster), it runs really well and I'm not getting the buffering that i've had with the SB boom on and off

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-06-25 Thread MrClive
Thanks ade. That's really helpfully, I'm looking to try running both on a single PI that hadn't have worked I'd have bought a 2nd one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk MrClive's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-06-24 Thread MrClive
RSJ wrote: I just wanted to update everyone and send out a thank you to everyone who pointed me in the right direction; my Rhapsody/Duet woes have been solved. Rhapsody is dead and I've moved to Spotify, sorry Rhapsody. I set up a LMS on my Raspberry Pi and used Max2Play as the platform. Set

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-06-23 Thread kh6idf
After starting this thread, I tried a Sonos Connect for use with Rhapsody but was disappointed with the sound quality from the digital outputs (lacking in bass compared to the SB3, just not as engaging to listen to.) I returned the Sonos and am now trying a Denon Heos Link. My immediate

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-31 Thread RSJ
I just wanted to update everyone and send out a thank you to everyone who pointed me in the right direction; my Rhapsody/Duet woes have been solved. Rhapsody is dead and I've moved to Spotify, sorry Rhapsody. I set up a LMS on my Raspberry Pi and used Max2Play as the platform. Set up the 3rd

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-31 Thread slimfast
What a bummer - Napster was the last big streaming service that I could use on the Squeezebox and now most of my hardware no longer supports it. I've now cancelled it after being subscribed for about 6 years. I remember when I was discovering new music on my Squeezeboxes with Last.fm, then

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-18 Thread RSJ
I would really hope that could happen philippe_44 because if I could get Rhapsody playing on my Picoreplayer it would be a beautiful thing. If Rhapsody did that I think it would open them up to a very large market. Imagine the potential of small and affordable players that could stream Rhapsody,

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-18 Thread philippe_44
I guess this is more a question for Michael: I there any chance that an agreement could be found between Rhaspsody and mysqueezebox.com so that a software player like squeezelite would be authorized to use the service ? I understand there are various right issues, but doesn't hurt asking. If

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-18 Thread Michael Herger
I there any chance that an agreement could be found between Rhaspsody and mysqueezebox.com so that a software player like squeezelite would be authorized to use the service ? No way. As pippin wrote a few days ago: they don't want you to be able to listen to the streams on any device. --

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-18 Thread RSJ
Read up on the Gramafon, the reviews were troubling. Using Tapatalk RSJ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103529

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-18 Thread philippe_44
mherger wrote: I there any chance that an agreement could be found between Rhaspsody and mysqueezebox.com so that a software player like squeezelite would be authorized to use the service ? No way. As pippin wrote a few days ago: they don't want you to be able to listen to the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-17 Thread txwindsurfer
Like many folks on this thread the loss of Duet receivers with Rhapsody was a problem after 11 years of usage in my home sound system. I ditched Rhapsody and subscribed to Spotify. I have replaced the Duet receivers with Gramofon receivers. Using Allplay on the Gramofon receivers gives me the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-16 Thread sfsonarboy
Thanks for everyone's help and all these details. As a long-time Rhapsody/Duet user this is a serious downer but I'm glad for the information. One question (and apologies if I've missed this in the thread or if inappropriate to ask here): What are (other) options to replace or supplement a Duet

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-16 Thread RSJ
I might be wrong about this but in my research there isn't anything that comes close to replacing a Rhapsody/Duet combo other than the SB Touch and SB Radio. This is a serious downer for me because I have a stack of SB Receivers feeding a rack of amps for my whole house audio system and in order

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-16 Thread BobbyBee
Hi guys, So any alternative streaming services that I can use my SB Boom (and also my SB Radio) directly from MSB (I don't have LMS)? Sure, my SB Radio continues to work but I'm not keeping the Napster sub just for the single device... How about Deezer? Thanks!

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-13 Thread kh6idf
philippe_44 wrote: Sounds like a faulty device or a configuration problem, as if you used PCM 44.1/16 they are just raw. Don't want to defend Sonos against Squeezebox line :) here but as much as one can be not happy with the PLAY:1, 3 or 5 loudspeaker characteristic, the CONNECT when used

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-13 Thread kh6idf
pippin wrote: I'm not at all impressed with the sound quality of my Sonos connect (it's not entirely bad, too. It's simply average) but hey, we are talking about Rhapsody here, aren't we? I mean, it doesn't get much worse there days if we talk about sound quality so what you stream it to

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread philippe_44
pippin wrote: Which problem? Rhapsody will only work on Touch and Radio. That what I mean - is there an option to have the Touch/Radio image running in QEMU ? LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000,

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
Rhapsody will only work on Touch and Radio. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8*

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
To be more specific: there are private binaries in the Touch and Radio images which are not part of the public distribution. The very reason for this is to make sure things like Rhapsody can not be run on 3rd party hardware or software players. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
You all need to get this: RHAPSODY DOES NOT WANT YOU TO PLAY ITS SERVICE ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN SQUEEZEBOX HARDWARE. On ip3k hardware it no longer works, that's not intentional but probably unavoidable. But that it doesn't run on anything else is not by accident or because somebody didn't

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
And since I'm at it... one more: This is not malice by Rhapsody. They have to do this, they are obliged to it by their rights holders. I've had good discussions with them regarding supporting it in iPeng's player in the past and since that's a controlled environment they would have been OK with

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread philippe_44
pippin wrote: Yea, sorry, but you are like the 20th person asking the question, so this wasn't just targeted at you ;) it will come up many more times I understand but I was proposing something a bit different and I would been happy to try to build it - anyway LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
And yes, if you can get the original images that come with the server to run in a virtualization environment, then it would work. I doubt they run on anything but real hardware, though. And, btw, this question has been answered a few times before in the developer forum, too --- learn more

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread philippe_44
pippin wrote: You all need to get this: RHAPSODY DOES NOT WANT YOU TO PLAY ITS SERVICE ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN SQUEEZEBOX HARDWARE (through LMS). On ip3k hardware it no longer works, that's not intentional but probably unavoidable. But that it doesn't run on anything else is not by accident

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread philippe_44
pippin wrote: And yes, if you can get the original images that come with the server to run in a virtualization environment, then it would probably work. I doubt they run on anything but real hardware, though. And, btw, this question has been answered a few times before in the developer

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread philippe_44
The idea of test is to use it only as the decryption machine. Rendering would be done by a proper squeezelite LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of)

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
Yea, sorry, but you are like the 20th person asking the question, so this wasn't just targeted at you ;) it will come up many more times --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
The main issue will probably be that the audio drivers used by Logitech are likely proprietary ones so if you run the image on anything else I doubt that will work. I'm also not sure, they might call stuff from the private part of the boot image on the device. --- learn more about iPeng, the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread pippin
I doubt that would work. Where do you capture the audio and how do you re-stream it without adding a lot more latency. You'd also have two players in the loop then. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-12 Thread philippe_44
pippin wrote: I doubt that would work. Where do you capture the audio and how do you re-stream it without adding a lot more latency. You'd also have two players in the loop then. I agree this would be awfully complicated (if ever feasible) but the idea is that the Slimproto would be proxied

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-11 Thread bocaboy
Here's the response I got from Rhapsody on May 10, 2015. I see that these same compliance issues haven't stopped Pandora (I'm a paid subscriber, so the same issues apply), Spotify, etc. from being able to stream on my Slimbox Classic. Only Rhapsody has a problem. I've been a subscriber since

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-11 Thread MeSue
I hope everyone has better luck switching to Spotify than I have had. Can't figure out why it won't work for me. Now I'm rearranging players, and looking to replace my Duet and Booms with Radios and maybe another Touch. SUE -If you're happy and you know it turn the volume up and 'blow it out'

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-11 Thread philippe_44
Just purely out of curiosity, anybody knows what happens with that problem when you have squeezeOS used in QEMU LMS 7.7.2 - 5 radio, 3 Boom, 4 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne (sort of)

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-11 Thread pippin
Which problem? Rhapsody will only work on Touch and Radio. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8*

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-10 Thread garym
philippe_44 wrote: Sounds like a faulty device or a configuration problem, as if you used PCM 44.1/16 they are just raw. Don't want to defend Sonos against Squeezebox line :) here but as much as one can be not happy with the PLAY:1, 3 or 5 loudspeaker characteristic, the CONNECT when used

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-10 Thread philippe_44
kh6idf wrote: I returned the Sonos Connect after listening to it for a week. Using the digital out (coaxial or optical) the sound was thin, bass-shy and more 2-dimensional than the Squeezebox. So much so that I found myself not wanting to listen. Today I put the SB3 back in place and

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-10 Thread pippin
I'm not at all impressed with the sound quality of my Sonos connect (it's not entirely bad, too. It's simply average) but hey, we are talking about Rhapsody here, aren't we? I mean, it doesn't get much worse there days if we talk about sound quality so what you stream it to pretty much doesn't

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-10 Thread bocaboy
kh6idf wrote: I got the following email from Rhapsody today: Hi- Thank you for writing back to Rhapsody support. There was a server problem from Rhapsody and it is now resolved. Please sign out from Rhapsody, restart device and try to sign in to access music with out any problem. I

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-10 Thread bocaboy
MeSue wrote: Here's how they replied to my goodbye message on their Fb page... I'm flabbergasted at her response. I've been a subscriber to Rhapsody since they were owned by Real. Guess it's time for Spotify for me!

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-10 Thread Mnyb
bocaboy wrote: I'm having the same problem. Your e-mail is dated late April, and I'm writing this in the first part of May. How can they allow a problem like this to go on for so long??!! If you have an SB3 or duet ,classic or boom or tranporter your problem will never be resolved as the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-09 Thread kh6idf
I returned the Sonos Connect after listening to it for a week. Using the digital out (coaxial or optical) the sound was thin, bass-shy and more 2-dimensional than the Squeezebox. So much so that I found myself not wanting to listen. Today I out the SB3 back in place and Pandora sounds very

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-08 Thread MeSue
Well now I am doubly hosed because I can't get Spotify to take my money. First I tried upgrading my original account to Premium, then I tried creating a new account with a different email. No go. Tried multiple credit cards, but just get this, over and over... Oops, seems your card or payment

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-07 Thread Squeezeisfab
mherger wrote: Yes, I'd like to hear from Michael if this is a dead end. Please not that I'm not an official Logitech communication channel. Official statements always take a little longer :-). But afaik the official statement is on its way (and, technically, I'm still on vacation

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-07 Thread MeSue
Here's how they replied to my goodbye message on their Fb page... Hi Susan, We're sorry to hear this! We updated our security protocols to best serve our community and unfortunately Squeezebox devices are incompatible with our new standards. If you have additional questions regarding

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-07 Thread MeSue
mherger wrote: Yes, I'd like to hear from Michael if this is a dead end. Please not that I'm not an official Logitech communication channel. Official statements always take a little longer :-). But afaik the official statement is on its way (and, technically, I'm still on vacation

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-07 Thread Michael Herger
Yes, I'd like to hear from Michael if this is a dead end. Please not that I'm not an official Logitech communication channel. Official statements always take a little longer :-). But afaik the official statement is on its way (and, technically, I'm still on vacation ;-)). But yes, the last

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-06 Thread Squeezeisfab
mherger wrote: Unfortunately there is no good news: Rhapsody is no longer working on older SB models due to encryption changes. Most likely this is not fixable lack of memory on these older devices. We've been counting bytes before (literally!). Implementing new encryption modes is out of

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-06 Thread MeSue
Squeezeisfab wrote: Hi Michael, Before I close my rhapsody account have all avenues drawn to a close re working on older boxes? Or are you still investigating a possible solution? Thanks Yes, I'd like to hear from Michael if this is a dead end. If so, that bites. :( I was on the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-03 Thread johannes
pippin wrote: Sure. The Radio is pretty much a standalone system with just a headphone out but Touch is perfect for HiFi systems. It's essentially an SB3 successor hi, eveybody out ther. same issue here in cologne. sad news. whats about an ssl proxy. installed on the inline device like qnap

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-03 Thread pippin
Would still expose the keys on your server. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8*

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-03 Thread kh6idf
I decided to move to a Sonos Connect in order to keep listening to Rhapsody. There is some difference in the sound (using coax digital output on both players) that I think is due to the way they process the bitstream. The SB3 has a fuller sound with more extended bass. I have not been able to

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-03 Thread remd
kh6idf wrote: I decided to move to a Sonos Connect in order to keep listening to Rhapsody. There is some difference in the sound (using coax digital output on both players) that I think is due to the way they process the bitstream. The SB3 has a fuller sound with more extended bass. I

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-03 Thread justwords
dbinfl wrote: Oh, OK - to clarify I am syncing to 3 players at the same time, rather than a different stream to each. Sorry for misunderstanding. ~dbinfl~ Have you found a service that works the same way? I used wimp that way for some time but now wimp is tidal. Logitech Media Server

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-05-01 Thread LeatherOsprey
24 hours in and find myself loving Deezer... not only for rescuing my use of Squeezebox (thanks Pippin) but also the SmartPhone/Tablet app user interface is better than Napster in my opinion. And I am getting used to the Deezer Squeezebox interface also... so might not need to use IckStream

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread RSJ
Can some one explain this change on Logitech's side? I'm not real savy on all this encryption stuff but when I looked up PCI compliance it has to do with credit card payments. So what does credit card payments have to do with streaming music from Rhapsody? Using Tapatalk

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread fcm4711
donsmit wrote: Vincent (Help Team) Apr 28, 12:50 AM Hi, I'm sorry you are unable to listen music on Logitech Squeezebox Duet. I apologize for the inconvenience caused. Logitech has made a change last week to disable some SSL cyphers as required for PCI compliance. With this change,

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread fcm4711
RSJ wrote: Can some one explain this change on Logitech's side? I'm not real savy on all this encryption stuff but when I looked up PCI compliance it has to do with credit card payments. So what does credit card payments have to do with streaming music from Rhapsody? Hi RSJ I can only

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
fcm4711 wrote: I can only assume that Rhapsody is running other things than serving music like CC payments on these backend servers too which required the update. C'mon Felix, you and I know how serving up content through SSL/TLS works so it was pretty obvious that at some time the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread fcm4711
pippin wrote: C'mon Felix, you and I know how serving up content through SSL/TLS works so it was pretty obvious that at some time the crypto server's maker would enforce or at least strongly discourage use of the old standard. They don't want to be at fault when something gets hacked. Like

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread LeatherOsprey
Got set up with a Spotify Premium for a month free to try it out Easy to get it going on Squeezebox thanks to guidance available on this site - many thanks. But and it is a HUGE but with the 3rd party SPOTIFY plugin you can only stream to 1 Squeezebox at a time... a serious regression to

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
Deezer? Tidal? The one track at a time limit is a Spotify speciality related to the libspotify library --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
Newer services often no longer encrypt their streams because rights holders today are less paranoid, they understand that it's not their paying customers who are trying to rob them. But Rhapsody is one of the first services around, they have old contracts and these contracts require the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread LeatherOsprey
garym wrote: on the web or on a smart phone or SqueezePlay control. In the latter two examples, I press and hold and move ickstream to my home menu. Not sure about the regular webGUI. Hi - on my Android smartphone Logitech Squeezebox Controller app. Holding does not allow me to move it.

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
Squeezeisfab wrote: 1. Why are other streams not faced with this issue? Or will they be in time? Which issue? The Rhapsody issue or the single-track-for-Spotify one? Most Streaming clients have the same Spotify limitation, with Rhapsody I don't have an overview. But the fact that the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread LeatherOsprey
Thanks Pippin for the early suggestion. I have taken a look at Deezer and it looks promising. Have set up a free account, got it set up on my NAS LMS and started to have a play. Was not impressed with the User interface at all so after a bit more digging into options came across ickStream.

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
Hm, which account type do you have? Does it play full tracks through MySqueezebox.com? While most other services don't play anything at all on Squeezeboxes when you don't have the necessary premium account, Deezer plays the 30s samples --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread LeatherOsprey
Sure Cheztaz. Firstly, please know that I run LMS on a QNAP NAS. You need to get the IckStream plugin (I got it here for Linux - http://repository.ickstream.com/squeezebox/repository-linux.xml). Then configure that to access a Deezer account, which you also need to set up, premium account,

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
And you want to know whether other devices are affected, too, or other services? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread Squeezeisfab
pippin wrote: And you want to know whether other devices are affected, too, or other services? Yes why don't other services suffer from the same encryption issue? Or will they in time? One other question. I thought the squeezebox could use wpa2 Aes encryption when connecting to the wifi. Is

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread Squeezeisfab
pippin wrote: Newer services often no longer encrypt their streams because rights holders today are less paranoid, they understand that it's not their paying customers who are trying to rob them. But Rhapsody is one of the first services around, they have old contracts and these contracts

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread LeatherOsprey
Yep, that appears to be it Pippin. Have subscribed to the full service (free month trial) and it now plays whole track. Got it working on Slim Device, Receiver and Radio. My much cherished Squeezeboxes have had a stay of execution with Deezer and IckStream looking a very adequate replacement for

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread garym
cheztaz wrote: Hi LeatherOsprey, I have had the same issue with Rhapsody, and have cancelled my subscription due to the changes, can you let me know what you did to get Ickstream please? Is this a service similar to Napster? do you download an app onto your Squeezeboxes? or a plug in

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread garym
LeatherOsprey wrote: Another question - is there anyway I can elevate IckStream to the Squeezebox Home menu? on the web or on a smart phone or SqueezePlay control. In the latter two examples, I press and hold and move ickstream to my home menu. Not sure about the regular webGUI. *Home:*

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread garym
cheztaz wrote: Thanks LeatherOsprey, i think I have it up and running...subscribed to Deezer for the free 30 day trial, and seems to be playing well, and full tracks...possibly a good replacement for Napster/Rhapsody. Will keep you informed. I have Spotify free for one year, so keeping

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread Squeezeisfab
pippin wrote: Deezer? Tidal? The one track at a time limit is a Spotify speciality related to the libspotify library Hi a couple of silly questions 1. Why are other streams not faced with this issue? Or will they be in time? 2. Would it be possible to build an lms plugin to handle the

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread LeatherOsprey
Another question - is there anyway I can elevate IckStream to the Squeezebox Home menu? LeatherOsprey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54374 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread cheztaz
Thanks LeatherOsprey, i think I have it up and running...subscribed to Deezer for the free 30 day trial, and seems to be playing well, and full tracks...possibly a good replacement for Napster/Rhapsody. Will keep you informed. I have Spotify free for one year, so keeping that for the time

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread Squeezeisfab
pippin wrote: Which issue? The Rhapsody issue or the single-track-for-Spotify one? Most Streaming clients have the same Spotify limitation, with Rhapsody I don't have an overview. But the fact that the Squeezeboxes were designed as a thin client and actually was already at the limit of

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread cheztaz
LeatherOsprey wrote: Thanks Pippin for the early suggestion. I have taken a look at Deezer and it looks promising. Have set up a free account, got it set up on my NAS LMS and started to have a play. Was not impressed with the User interface at all so after a bit more digging into

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread dbinfl
pippin wrote: You don't happen to use iPeng, don't you? Because that has a global search feature at least for tracks in the current playlist... No I don't. Sounds promising; I'll check it out. Thanks! ~dbinfl~ === Squeezebox Server 7.8.1 on

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread pippin
But you can't have three different streams at the same time --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8*

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread dbinfl
Oh, OK - to clarify I am syncing to 3 players at the same time, rather than a different stream to each. Sorry for misunderstanding. ~dbinfl~ === Squeezebox Server 7.8.1 on Windows 8.1 SBR (x3), SB Boom (x1) Ripping with dBpoweramp to FLAC One happy

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread garym
You can play spotify to as many synched players as you want. What you can't do is play different things to different Players at the same time. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-30 Thread dbinfl
LeatherOsprey wrote: Got set up with a Spotify Premium for a month free to try it out ...But and it is a HUGE but with the 3rd party SPOTIFY plugin you can only stream to 1 Squeezebox at a time... H...I didn't have that problem. I set up Spotify Premium with the Triode

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-29 Thread cinemafx
I received an email from Vincent saying that Squeezebox was not supported. I can verify that my Transporter, Duet, Controller and Boom no longer word. Rhapsody is history for me at this point. It was great while it lasted.

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-29 Thread dbinfl
garym wrote: for radio/touch via mysb.com. but for older players, need the 3rd party plugin running through LMS to use spotify. Got this hooked up today - Spotify premium with Triode's plugin. Works like a charm against my older players. Spotify has one big feature that I like about

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-29 Thread pippin
dbinfl wrote: One drawback is that the lookup of a currently playing song on other services (e.g. Pandora is playing, look up the song on Rhapsody) doesn't include Spotify in the list of lookup sources. I added lots of stuff to Rhapsody over the years with this feature. You don't happen

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread cheztaz
toby10 wrote: Newer players Touch Radio are (correctly) not on that list. They still work with new Rhapsody/Napster encryption. Thanks - can the Touch and Radio be plugged into my surround sound system? cheztaz's

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread cheztaz
Thanks...I think it is bye bye Napster/Rhapsody timeand will try out Spotify - but this is only available through LMS isn't it? cheztaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32781 View this

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread kh6idf
cheztaz wrote: thanks for your help, you got a better answer than I did. Are there any other squeezeboxes out there which you can plug your surround sound into that you are aware of? I'm not aware of any SB models that aren't on that list, but maybe someone else knows of some. If I keep

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread toby10
Newer players Touch Radio are (correctly) not on that list. They still work with new Rhapsody/Napster encryption. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread donsmit
After emailing Rhapsody about this issue--their reply seems to blame Logitech - I'm sure Logitech blames Rhapsody--at any rate, it sure looks like longtime customers of both services are out of luck.:mad: Vincent (Help Team) Apr 28, 12:50 AM Hi, I'm sorry you are unable to listen music on

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread pippin
I think blame is a complicated thing in this case. The switch to AES is probably inevitable, without it TLS is insecure and why would they want to use an insecure encryption... No idea about whether it's feasible at all to put AES onto the ip3k processor (probably yes, it's a network processor)

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread pippin
Sure. The Radio is pretty much a standalone system with just a headphone out but Touch is perfect for HiFi systems. It's essentially an SB3 successor --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread garym
cheztaz wrote: Thanks...I think it is bye bye Napster/Rhapsody timeand will try out Spotify - but this is only available through LMS isn't it? for radio/touch via mysb.com. but for older players, need the 3rd party plugin running through LMS to use spotify. *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3)

Re: [slim] Rhapsody - no audio with Logitech SB3

2015-04-28 Thread LeatherOsprey
Yes, great work on getting clarity from Rhapsody. Really appreciate it. Can anyone advise on whether Spotify works with Duet receiver and Slim Devices? Not sure if I need to be more specific on the models for an answer? Much appreciate help. I love Rhapsody, was originally thinking my

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