Re: [dns-privacy] Key metrics

2023-06-28 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 9:40 PM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] Key metrics > > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click > links > or open

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-12 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: Tim Wicinski Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:44 PM To: Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: paul.hoff...@icann.org; dns-privacy@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:52 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from outside the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-09 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: Rob Sayre Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2023 6:11 PM To: Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: paul.hoff...@icann.org; dns-privacy@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-07 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
On Jun 6, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:  Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 11:23 AM Hollenbeck, Scott mailto:40verisign

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:05 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 9:44 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from outside the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-05 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 4:02 PM > To: Tim Wicinski > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-05 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:32 PM > To: Tim Wicinski > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-05-30 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 2:01 PM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Cc: George Thessalonikefs > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email

Re: [dns-privacy] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-20 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Brian > Haberman > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 11:43 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing > > All, > This starts a 2-week WGLC for >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-06 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
oes the fact that we will not request publication until there are 2 or more > interoperable implementations affect your thought process? > > Would descriptive text in the text starting WGLC that points out the > process > suffice? > > Regards, > Brian >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-06 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
followed here. Scott From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Eric Vyncke (evyncke) Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 1:48 AM To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; tjw.i...@gmail.com Cc: paul.hoff...@icann.org; dpr...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-03 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: Tim Wicinski Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 12:59 PM To: Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: paul.hoff...@icann.org; dpr...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-02 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 1:48 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf- > dprive-unilateral-probing > > Caution: This em

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-02 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 2:51 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] [dns-privacy] Intended Status for draft-ietf- > dprive-unilateral-probing > > Caution: This em

[dns-privacy] Intended Status for draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-03-01 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
After a recent-re-read of draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing and its normative dependencies, I have a strong belief that the draft describes more of an experiment than a Proposed Standard. The reason we need "opportunistic" and "unilateral" actions is because there are gaps in specification,

[dns-privacy] Operator Positions on Recursive-to-Authoritative Encryption

2021-11-12 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
During yesterday's working group meeting, there was some discussion of authoritative name server operator positions on support for encryption. I mentioned Verisign's position back in 2019: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/9LsjkTwEjGT46CXH7IsTTLCBqm4/ Verisign also supports the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Security Considerations: Traffic Analysis

2021-08-16 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Wouters > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:05 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: paul.hoff...@icann.org; dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Security Considerations: Traffic > Analysis > > Caution:

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Security Considerations: Traffic Analysis

2021-08-16 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 11:28 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Security Considerations: Traffic > Analysis > > On Aug 16, 2021, at 7:51 AM,

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Security Considerations: Traffic Analysis

2021-08-16 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 10:19 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] [dns-privacy] Security Considerations: Traffic > Analysis > > On Aug 16, 2021, at 5:14 AM,

Re: [dns-privacy] Security Considerations: Traffic Analysis

2021-08-16 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul > Wouters > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 8:38 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Security Considerations: Traffic > Analysis > > Caution: This

[dns-privacy] Security Considerations: Traffic Analysis

2021-08-16 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
The iterative nature of recursive resolution gives an on-path monitor multiple opportunities to observe query traffic between a recursive resolver and an authoritative name server. Even with encryption, the name server IP addresses can be used to draw accurate conclusions about qnames by

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG strategy on opportunistic vs authenticated moving forward

2021-07-13 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 12:18 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG strategy on opportunistic vs > authenticated moving forward > > On Jul 13, 2

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG strategy on opportunistic vs authenticated moving forward

2021-07-13 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul > Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 11:34 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WG strategy on opportunistic vs > authenticated moving forward > > On Jul 13, 2

Re: [dns-privacy] WG strategy on opportunistic vs authenticated moving forward

2021-07-13 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Tim Wicinski Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 1:12 PM To: DNS Privacy Working Group Cc: dprive-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] WG strategy on opportunistic vs authenticated moving forward Caution: This email originated from outside the

Re: [dns-privacy] How do we want to use draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements?

2021-07-07 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Alexander > Mayrhofer > Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 8:36 AM > To: Andrew Campling > Cc: Brian Haberman ; dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] How do we want to use draft-ietf- > dprive-phase2-requirements? >

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Common Features for Encrypted Recursive to Authoritative DNS

2021-05-07 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
child zones MAY include those DNS SCVB records in the Additional > >section of responses to queries to a parent authoritative server. > > > > This sounds like a restatement of the definition of "glue". Can we simply > declare that these records are "glue"? &

Re: [dns-privacy] Common Features for Encrypted Recursive to Authoritative DNS

2021-05-04 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Ben Schwartz Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 5:07 PM To: Peter van Dijk Cc: DNS Privacy Working Group Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Common Features for Encrypted Recursive to Authoritative DNS Thanks for this draft; I think it's clear and could be a

Re: [dns-privacy] How do we want to use draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements?

2021-04-20 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Brian > Haberman > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 5:13 PM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] How do we want to use draft-ietf-dprive- > phase2-requirements? > > All, > As was raised on the thread

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] A Few More Suggestions for the Requirements Draft

2021-04-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul > Hoffman > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:15 PM > To: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] A Few More Suggestions for the > Requirements Draft > > On Apr 19, 2021, at 8:08 AM,

[dns-privacy] A Few More Suggestions for the Requirements Draft

2021-04-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
I have a few more suggestions for draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements. In Section 5.1: After the current requirement #7, I'd like to suggest adding a requirement like this to make it clear that the authoritative name server determines if server authentication is required, or not: "The

Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption

2021-03-31 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Stephen > Farrell > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 8:58 AM > To: Jim Reid ; Brian Haberman > > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on > DNS Encryption > > > Hiya, > > On

[dns-privacy] Root Server Operators Statement on DNS Encryption

2021-03-30 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
This is worth reading: https://root-servers.org/media/news/Statement_on_DNS_Encryption.pdf Scott ___ dns-privacy mailing list dns-privacy@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-opportunistic-adotq

2021-03-29 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Stephen > Farrell > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:02 PM > To: Eric Rescorla ; Jim Reid > Cc: DNS Privacy Working Group ; Bill Woodcock > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft- > opportunistic-adotq > >

Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements: The User Perspective and Use Cases

2021-03-24 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
t; > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click > links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content > is safe. > > Hi Scott, > > On 3/23/21 11:26 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > >> >From the pure

Re: [dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements: The User Perspective and Use Cases

2021-03-23 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
; > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click > links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content > is safe. > > Hi Scott, > Thanks for kicking this discussion off. A question (or two) inline for > us to > con

[dns-privacy] draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements: The User Perspective and Use Cases

2021-03-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
Section 9.1 of draft-ietf-dprive-phase2-requirements currently contains this text: "As recursors typically forwards queries received from the user to authoritative servers. This creates a transitive trust between the user and the recursor, as well as the authoritative server, since

Re: [dns-privacy] Complete changes to the (no longer just) opportunistic ADoT draft

2021-02-23 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul > Hoffman > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:28 PM > To: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] Complete changes to the (no longer just) > opportunistic ADoT draft > > Greetings again. You probably just saw the

Re: [dns-privacy] Authentication in draft-ietf-dprive-opportunistic-adotq

2021-02-16 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Ben Schwartz Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 12:01 PM To: Paul Wouters Cc: Paul Hoffman ; dpr...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Authentication in draft-ietf-dprive-opportunistic-adotq [SAH] [snip] I think the scary part is that

Re: [dns-privacy] how can we ADoT?

2020-11-11 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Tony Finch > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 2:07 PM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] how can we ADoT? > > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click > links > or open

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Revised opportunistic encryption draft

2020-10-30 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul > Hoffman > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 4:46 PM > To: Eric Rescorla > Cc: dpr...@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Revised opportunistic encryption > draft > > On Oct 30, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Eric Rescorla

Re: [dns-privacy] Logistics for IETF 109

2020-10-27 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Benno Overeinder > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 6:30 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; dns-privacy@ietf.org > Cc: br...@innovationslab.net > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Logistics for IETF 109 > > Hi Scott, > > > On

Re: [dns-privacy] Logistics for IETF 109

2020-10-26 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Brian > Haberman > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 7:56 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] Logistics for IETF 109 > > Hi all, > As you may have seen, we have a 2-hour session allocated to us for IETF

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Re: ADoT requirements for signalling?

2019-11-01 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of John Levine > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 3:39 PM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Cc: brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] Re: ADoT requirements for > signalling? > > In article > ail.com> you

Re: [dns-privacy] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis

2019-08-23 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: Sara Dickinson Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 12:57 PM To: Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: vladimir.cunat+i...@nic.cz; dns-privacy@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis On 21 Aug 2019, at 19:21, Hollenbeck, Scott

Re: [dns-privacy] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis

2019-08-21 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Vladimír > Cunát > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 8:58 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf- > dprive-rfc7626-bis > > Hello, > > I now read through the whole

Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations

2019-08-15 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Brian > Haberman > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:40 PM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-hal-adot- > operational-considerations > > This starts a Call for Adoption for >

Re: [dns-privacy] DNS PRIVate Exchange (dprive) WG Virtual Meeting: 2018-12-10

2018-11-30 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Wouters > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:15 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: 'wo...@pch.net' ; 'dns-privacy@ietf.org' priv...@ietf.org>; 'KHenderson=40verisign@dmarc.ietf.org' > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [dns-priva

Re: [dns-privacy] Resolver to authoritative discussion guidance

2018-07-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: Tim Wicinski Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 4:47 PM To: Jim Reid Cc: Hollenbeck, Scott ; br...@innovationslab.net; dns-privacy@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Resolver to authoritative discussion guidance OK, I'll chat with Brian since he's in charge of sending those

Re: [dns-privacy] Resolver to authoritative discussion guidance

2018-07-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Tim Wicinski Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:01 PM To: Jim Reid Cc: Brian Haberman ; dns-privacy@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] Resolver to authoritative discussion guidance Jim We're not ignoring TLD operators. But the TLD operator space is