[e-gold-list] Re: www.lewrockwell.com and mises.org

2002-01-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
that. Thanks for your efforts, Patrick Chkoreff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!

[e-gold-list] Re: run, don't walk...

2002-01-08 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
no more legal authority to do what he did than my immigrant grandfather had. But that never stopped a president from doing anything to consolidate and maintain power (e.g. Lincoln, LBJ, Nixon, etc.) Regards, Patrick Chkoreff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org

[e-gold-list] Re: run, don't walk... (FDR couldn't do either)

2002-01-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Re: run, don't walk ... (FDR couldn't do either) LOL. Wickedly funny comment there, JP. I'm having to suppress some guilty chuckles over here. I don't usually laugh at the plight of differently abled people, but I'm making an exception in this case. Of course, FDR is dead, so I guess

[e-gold-list] Re: a few notes on new access feature

2002-01-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Also, have the constant spurious log-on attempts continued. I noticed my account had been tried yesterday. Is everyone experiencing this? Yes, I had an unsuccessful login attempt at 05:32 GMT this morning (Wed 09-Jan). That was 00:32 Eastern time, and I was definitely asleep. -- Patrick

[e-gold-list] Re: end-game wealth

2002-01-16 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
, the percentage of euros E backed by the gold G. If I had this formula, then for a given E and G I could verify that P was at least 15%. Without the formula, I have no way of knowing P. Maybe the answer is VERY obvious and I'm just being EXTREMELY dense. That does happen sometimes. Regards, Patrick

[e-gold-list] Re: Julian Dibbell's article online

2002-01-16 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Luc Van den Borre [EMAIL PROTECTED] From gun-wielding libertarians to radical Muslims, an unlikely global cabal is plotting financial revolution. And they're putting their money where the Web is. By Julian Dibbell http://wired.com/wired/archive/10.01/egold.html Thanks for the link!

[e-gold-list] Re: 1mdc LODGEMENTS to take over from Euro?

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
However, yes, 1mdc LODGEMENTS are quite literally a free lunch. What you pay into the 1mdc brand is your very interest, attention, the fact that you tell others, etc etc. What 1mdc Lodgements builds is absolute trust, reputation and so on. Very neat, JP. The agio fees are simply your

[e-gold-list] Euro gold backing

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On 16 Jan 2002, at 0:42, SnowDog wrote: ... Let's say that the Euro is backed by 15% of its value in gold. In my previous posting, I challenged everybody to define what this actually meant. Here is how I stated the problem: Let E be the total number of euros in circulation. Let G be the

[e-gold-list] Re: 1mdc LODGEMENTS to take over from Euro?

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:19 PM On 17 Jan 2002, at 10:18, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: Very neat, JP. The agio fees are simply your marketing costs. On the $100,000 lodged, that works out to about $1000 a year. But marketing costs for what

[e-gold-list] Re: 1mdc LODGEMENTS to take over from Euro?

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
- Original Message - From: Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:33 PM I have a theory. This is just theory and speculation, of course. If I had me a brick of gold in digital format, I would lend it out to some trusted currency exchange providers who are low

[e-gold-list] Virtual Phonecards

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:16 PM --- - Virtual Phonecards - Instant Pin by Email - -Large Selection - Great Rates- -

[e-gold-list] Re: gold-n-eight

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Ok JP , I'll try it too. good luck John Hey, this is a neat new service, y'all. The HYIP Test Drive. Let just a few fools and their gold be parted just for the fun of it, and it spares the rest of us fools the same fate! Of course, I've never done one

[e-gold-list] Re: history of gold confiscation / etc in the USA / minicontest

2002-01-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:02 PM Can anyone here give a quick, accurate run down on the history of the gold confiscation episode and the dropping of the gold standard in the USA from 1930 through 1990? One gram for the most

[e-gold-list] Re: history of gold confiscation / etc in the USA / minicontest

2002-01-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
- Original Message - From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:13 PM Take a look at my article on FreedomHound: http://www.freedomhound.com/Articles.jsp;jsessionid=aaaclVX313hVNOfkUj3?id=1 3 Damn word wrap! Note the 3 on the second line of the link

[e-gold-list] Re: Announcement

2002-01-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
itself is in effect a state within a state, or rather a state without a state. Thanks for letting us benefit from your experience, Jim. Regards, Patrick Chkoreff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's

[e-gold-list] Re: Announcement

2002-01-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Considering that West Virginia provided 30,000 men to the Union Army, and 20,000 men to the Confederate Army and both sides blew each other's brains out for five years, I don't think you can accurately call it a peaceful secession. Just a thought from a

[e-gold-list] Re: Real Gold Money

2002-01-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [dgc.chat] Real Gold Money Mr. Gary North: What concrete form must real gold money take before you will finally recognize it as such and promote it? Do you think Mr. North actually has any interest in sound money existing

[e-gold-list] Cigars

2002-02-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Anyone know of a good place I can buy cigars online with e-gold? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the

[e-gold-list] Re: crypto card / free at 1mdc

2002-02-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
- Original Message - Also, you can take your cryptocard anywhere and use it on any computer; if you're talking a smart card you need the right computer set up etc. Have you used a cryptocard? They're great. OK JP, I took a look at www.cryptocard.com, and this looks truly awesome.

[e-gold-list] Re: crypto card caution

2002-02-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: SnowDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] The crypto-card is spoof-proof. ... On log-in, the website will present a number. This number must be keyed into your crypto-card to receive another number which then must be keyed into the website. The crypto-card is the only thing which knows the correct

[e-gold-list] Re: Turk Patent Suit debunked

2002-02-05 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
- Original Message - From: C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] In law, there is such thing as undivided property. Someone can have a title on part of a whole. This part does not need to be defined in other way than saying it is x% of the whole. The owners of an undivided

[e-gold-list] Re: E-Bullion Crypto Card

2002-02-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
- Original Message - From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] New article on the Gold Economy: E-Bullion announces its Cryptocard http://www.goldeconomy.com/article.php?sid=171 YOWZA! The competition in security is heating up! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] C2it

2002-02-07 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] We accept: ... C2it Has anyone else found c2it to be IMPOSSIBLY slow? I can barely even log in sometime because the browser keeps timing out. I've complained to cust srvc twice now. Every other site I use is lightning fast, including e-gold,

[e-gold-list] Is Gold Too Scarce to be Worldwide Money?

2002-02-12 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
? Can anyone enlighten me on the implications of this dramatic shortage of gold? Thanks in advance, Patrick Chkoreff P.S. I simply DO NOT YET understand Ricardian systems or any kind of digital token system. I have not seen a satisfactory explanation of how and when such money is created. If I

[e-gold-list] Re: Is Gold Too Scarce to be Worldwide Money?

2002-02-12 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is enough? Digital gold is divisible as fine as you want to take it. The more the economy grows, the more the buying power of gold grows. Your question is evidence of a failure to understand the relationship of supply and demand. Gold is scalable

[e-gold-list] Re: an IMPORTANT REASON to use Banana! (not kidding!)

2002-02-13 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2002/02/13/bookstores/index.html use bananagold now -- it's very private. no records between you and any bookstores! http://bananagold.com Way to go JP! For all of you out there who think that this is just a small baby step

[e-gold-list] What's wrong with the Capulin Coffee site!?

2002-02-14 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
What's wrong with http://www.capulin.com ? When I go there today I just get This account has been disabled ... To have the account restored, contact Customer Service. I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I'm afraid Daniel might not get the email if his entire domain is disabled. We have

[e-gold-list] Re: Capulin

2002-02-14 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gulp! Good to know we can keep gulping Capulin now! Hey, did y'all know that the Dansie Shopping cart can use e-gold? Thanks for the reference -- looks like a great piece of code. Also, since nobody has mentioned it in the perennial what if they run

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Are there any other points that you would like addressed? Again, feel free to use E-Count or PayPal, Patrick, I just prefer the GBC's due to the experiences I have had in the last two + years. Thanks for sharing your wealth of experience here, Eric. The reason I've been messing around

[e-gold-list] Re: comment on HIGH FRICTION

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Jay W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] a little lube for the friction may come from a different mind set... (snip) follow up by using an exchange provider to pay off your credit card each month in exchange for gold. Very astute, Jay! A good example of how people can adapt to existing economic

[e-gold-list] Re: fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Plus, they (e-bullion) just HAD to express everything in dollars, didn't they? As for expressing things in dollars, that suits most people best at the moment but we can also issue cards in Euros. No, I wasn't talking about the debit cards, just that

[e-gold-list] Re: Jay sorts it out...

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a little lube for the friction may come from a different mind set... That's absoltuely clever Jay! The market maker who first offers very easy PAYMENT OF YOUR CREDIT CARD via their web page interface, will go big! I've used Xodds.com for this and it works great.

[e-gold-list] Re: where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick: it is Cambist.net, not Cambist.com! Please! http://www.Cambist.net/ Ugh, that was a terrible mistake, Jim. I definitely know better -- it was brain fatigue from a little too much coding today. -- Patrick Cambist.net. May Scale.

[e-gold-list] Re: C2It vs Paypal

2002-02-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] We used c2it for about 9 months, we setup 3 accounts with them, and verified all our customers. They were very good to work with, but about 3 weeks ago they decided they didnt want to deal with any Market Makers anymore due to fraud. They closed all 3 of

[e-gold-list] Re: C2It vs Paypal

2002-02-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No the pending funds were returned to the customers that sent the funds. The bad part was the customers actually had to be notified by me, and they had to cancel the transaction to get the funds back in their

[e-gold-list] Re: C2It vs Paypal

2002-02-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... We are dabbling with www.anypay.com From: patrick I guess these online payment systems that use credit cards are always going to end up being antagonistic to gold market makers, simply because fraud will always arise as an issue. That's because the

[e-gold-list] Re: Bill Gates Could Save Buenos Aires

2002-02-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-gold gets mentioned in Forbes! http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/0304/020.html ... ... E-gold has credibility problems of its own--it's domiciled in a tax haven in the Caribbean--but there is no reason its

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Re: Bill Gates Could Save Buenos Aires

2002-02-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Jeroen C. van Gelderen [EMAIL PROTECTED] According to the article: Nothing that government can say or do about money will have any credibility, so salvation must come from outside. It could come in the form of software. I envision Microsoft as savior of the dispossessed in Latin

[e-gold-list] Re: Grass Roots

2002-02-26 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
. Regards, Patrick Chkoreff -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPHv+6FA7g7bodUwLEQJgcQCfSqTgOWT7NusaqmPX6kVwObicv7sAoL4K VIWd1YsPld0oY1Ipp9OS5Fow =fVdT -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold

[e-gold-list] Quick link so newbies can subscribe

2002-03-01 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
I need a quick way to tell new people how to subscribe to this list -- just an email or url that'll get them going. It's been so long since I subscribed I forgot how. :-) I just told somebody to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I assume it'll bounce back with a subscription link, right? --

[e-gold-list] Re: donate to Free State NOW!

2002-03-02 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freestateproject.org http://www.freestateproject.org/help.htm Anyone who doesn't donate a few dollars ia a bastard! JP, I simply will not be a bastard. I put 1.5 grams toward the Free State! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Economy Conference change

2002-03-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] In order to meet the popular demand, we have changed the Gold Economy Conference to a weekend conference and moved it back a month to April 19th and 20th. The conference price will also be a lot cheaper - under $200. I will have all the new prices and

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Here we go again....(scam alert!)

2002-03-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Gaithman [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: MRS. ESTHER ADISA I am MRS. ESTHER ADISA, widow of late Engr. Bola Adisa, the former Civilian Governor of kwara state in Nigeria, I have heard about these Nigerian scams for at least 4 or 5 years now. I friend of mine used to work at Total

[e-gold-list] Re: Lower Fees

2002-03-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: major bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like the competition is heating up a little, fee reduction's at E-Bullion! They lowered the fee for spends to 25 cents instead of .50 - I like that, the cheaper the costs the better IMHO. They're also competitive on security because they

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold in the information Age

2002-03-07 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zealllc.com/2002/digigold.htm This is like writing an article on the development of the broadcasting industry and saying stop by www.pbs.org for an organization at the cutting edge of broadcasting technology, unmatched in quality and lead by the

[e-gold-list] Re: Cambist 1mdc business idea!

2002-03-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Khurram: 1mdc could drop backing its currency with only e-gold. Instead claim to back 1mdc with a combination of e-gold, GoldMoney, e-bullion etc. Guaranteeing, that at all times, all 1mdc would be backed by a combination of metal. ... Perhaps Jim could temporarily offer a zero or even

[e-gold-list] Oops: Cambist 1mdc business idea!

2002-03-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps Jim could temporarily offer a zero or even slightly negative rate on exchanges from 1mdc to e-gold. That might loosen up some of that e-gold in 1mdc and make it flow into the Cambist inventory. U, I meant to say exchanges from e-gold

[e-gold-list] Re: Cambist idea - OK, I'll try again

2002-03-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] U, I meant to say exchanges from e-gold to 1mdc, which is not likely to accomplish much in the way of replenishing his inventories. A better example would be offering a slightly negative rate on exchanges from e-gold to GoldMoney. Just long enough

[e-gold-list] Re: handy graphing feature

2002-03-14 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Question - who can see the very slight 1mdc logo (very large) underneat hthe golden lines of the graph above? Is it too faint for most monitors?) The logo shows up great! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Availability

2002-03-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
At 07:36 AM 19/03/2002 -0500, Chuck M @ VRI wrote: ... And suppose the co-worker wants to spend, say $30. What are the fastest, least-hassle, least percentage ways to get as close to $30 into the account? From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sell something or work for e-gold. Maximum 50

[e-gold-list] Re: what happened to Cambist

2002-03-26 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote The attackers: (1) gained access to our server at some time in the past, plotting a future attack (2) stole key pass phrases from the server, to assist in performing a crack on some rc4 encryption - at a later date (3) later found an

[e-gold-list] Re: NetPay.tv security

2002-04-02 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] People need to be able to simply look for the 'lock' icon on their browser to determine if they are on a secure web server before entering confidential data. Yep. I remember raising this concern about the OLD GoldMoney interface, where they had login

[e-gold-list] Re: another busk (sex, politics, e-gold)

2002-04-02 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: all the Norse concept stuff lately--way over my head, dude. Two-cents still kicks butt for this simpleton. Hmm, take a look at these links: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?306260EG http://306260.clicktwocents.com As a fellow simpleton, I guess I'd have to go

[e-gold-list] Re: another busk (sex, politics, e-gold)

2002-04-02 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
The only problem is that clicktwocents has NO way for the user to specify any desired amount of his choosing. No longer. A clicktwocents tip can now be modified and specified in any amount, unit, and/or metal. What-what-WHAT?! Wow, when did THAT happen? You folks are FAST! Gee, thanks!

[e-gold-list] RE: dangerous fake emails! watch out!

2002-04-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can find an example of the new fake progeny email here: http://planetgold.com/news.asp Web users should also adopt the habit of double-clicking the lock icon to verify that the certificate says Issued to: www.e-gold.com. It sure would be nice if web browsers

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Freedomhound

2002-04-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happened to Vince Calloway of Freedomhound? He doesn't answer my e-mails. I noticed this a while ago. Going back through my old emails, I saw that Vince and I were corresponding up to 11-Jan-2002. On 31-Jan-2002, my emails began going unanswered. From:

[e-gold-list] Re: Convert US checks to e-gold

2002-04-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Martijn: You might want to check http://merchantgold.com . -- Patrick - Original Message - From: Martijn Wismeijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Convert US checks to e-gold Hello fellow

[e-gold-list] Re: Fwd: Security System Update

2002-04-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just got this in my mailbox. The link takes you to: I got it too. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Gaithmans is officially CLOSED until 4/22/02

2002-04-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yanks in Atlanta! I saw that movie. Box office hit of 1939. Didn't go down too well in the civil war though. :( Yes, Atlanta was the scene of what is now called total war, one aimed directly at civilians and their property. This tactic was outlawed

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] One Golden opportunity

2002-04-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Gaithman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interested Merchants and Consumers: Patrick CHKOREFF Just a note to correct the spelling of my last name. By the way, the name is actually pronounceable: Chuh-KOR-eff. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Heads Up for U.S. Businesses

2002-04-25 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3) money services businesses, such as money transfer companies and check cashers; Perhaps some of you involved in the gold economy here in the US think this is no big deal. After all, the government is just trying to prevent money laundering, right? Surely these

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] there's a big old gap

2002-04-25 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a big bullish gold open ... Also silver and platinum. Gains this morning: Gold: +1%(from 304.50 to 307.50) Silver: +1.5% (from 4.55 to 4.62) Platinum: +1.8% (from 544 to 554) -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org

[e-gold-list] RE: Cost of purchasing e-gold

2002-04-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
be left behind and eventually nobody will want your monopoly money. Try expanding your personal network of trusted souls with whom you can exchange real money -- gold. Ideally, Patrick Chkoreff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email

[e-gold-list] RE: Cost of purchasing e-gold

2002-04-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adam wrote: Imagine someone wants to pay $100 for a product with e-gold. To purchase e-gold they have to pay anywhere from 18% (CC) to 5% premium, already they are at a loss of $5 to $18. Now they pay their merchant with e-gold. The merchant received e-gold, and

[e-gold-list] Re: OOPS ! Sorry, E-gold list Members !

2002-05-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
5/4/2002 1:15:19 PM, Mariman Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do apologize, the message sent to the List was to be sent to Patrick only !! This reply-to command is *%^*$ !! Second time I mistake.. Sorry again and have a good Sunday :) MC And he's not referring to me, Patrick Chkoreff

[e-gold-list] Re: Restore the Gold $tandard - the poster

2002-05-05 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
5/5/2002 2:15:35 AM, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, since science is wonderful, I created another one today. I called it Gold 101. It does not have any slogan about restoring the gold standard, just an image of an atom of gold, an image of the crystal lattice, the word

[e-gold-list] Re: The color of platinum

2002-05-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
5/6/2002 2:55:31 AM, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I have a platinum image, but again, I have never seen platinum in real life, so someone who has, please tell me if I got the color/finish right, so I can submit it: http://www.goldcowboy.com/temp/platinum.jpg Thanks, Adam

[e-gold-list] Re: The color of platinum

2002-05-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
5/6/2002 11:07:34 AM, James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that aside from gold and copper (that I can think of anyway) most metals are probably best described as 'silvery.' Hmm. And both gold and copper are known to occasionally appear in pure or almost-pure form naturally,

[e-gold-list] Re: The color of platinum

2002-05-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
5/6/2002 2:55:31 AM, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I have a platinum image, but again, I have never seen platinum in real life, so someone who has, please tell me if I got the color/finish right, so I can submit it: http://www.goldcowboy.com/temp/platinum.jpg Thanks, Adam

[e-gold-list] Re: Biometrics and e-gold

2002-05-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
with a new sweaty oily film, etc. etc. like Spy vs. Spy. But I really can't think of anything that could counter the one-time pad technology. Then again, I'm no expert on security. Any ideas? Regards, Patrick Chkoreff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org

[e-gold-list] Re: The eCTA? No thanks

2002-05-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
5/6/2002 7:41:42 PM, Tristan Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose we were to apply the above concepts to the cambist industry. Do we need only one cambist because if we don't have just one, all the customers suddenly become confused? Interesting you bring this up, Tristan. I have heard

[e-gold-list] Re: Bug in e-gold account creation with Opera browser!

2002-05-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had the same problem with Opera 6 in Windows 2000 on ANY secure web site. I ended up going back to Internet Explorer. There are some very nice features in Opera. It is a great shame when important stuff like SSL fails on it. :( Yep. Oh well, Bill Gates

[e-gold-list] Fw: Re: Need logos for various DGCs

2002-05-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED] With e-gold, the receiver pays a 1% fee up to a maximum of 50 cents. With goldmoney, the sender pays only a 0.1% fee, up to a maximum of 50 mils. With e-bullion, the sender pays a flat twenty-five cent ($0.25) fee. With Crowne-Gold, the sender pays

[e-gold-list] Re: Need logos for various DGCs

2002-05-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Gimme Shelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] And when he uses fiat how much is levied against him? Personally, I do not htink these gold based currencies are designed to go out and buy coffee with them. They are designed for final based payments, with gold as the medium of exchange. I think this

[e-gold-list] Re: Cuban cigars with e-gold

2002-05-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] A while ago somebody (Patrick?) expressed an interest in buying Cuban cigars with e-gold and my friend who sells them was out of stock. I have now persuaded him to auction some on goldbarter.com... please support this effort!

[e-gold-list] Re: Cuban cigars with e-gold

2002-05-13 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] C'mon guys, 7.2g is very cheap for this box of cigars. If you want a regular supply to be offered in exchange for gold, make it worth the guy's while! I know he can sell them for more than this wholesale... OK, there ya go. I thought 5g was a

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Re: Cuban cigars with e-gold

2002-05-13 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goldbarter.com/viewauction.jsp?id=120 i hate bidding against you Patrick, but I forced myself! :O that price is still cheap as chips! if the goldbarter system remembered one's log in, I would bid more! Hey, no problem. If this auction goes well I

[e-gold-list] Re: New payment server, possibly useful for exchange providers

2002-05-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? Thanks for the Hushmail info. I particularly liked the High Level Technical Description at http://www.hushmail.com/about_hushmail/how_it_works/tech_description.shtml

[e-gold-list] exporting private keys without password

2002-05-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Does anybody else think it's odd that in PGP you can export your private key to a text file WITHOUT having to supply the password for that key? That means that anybody who can log into my computer can also get a copy of my private key. It's not that I have a wide-open Windows password or

[e-gold-list] Re: exporting private keys without password

2002-05-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Steven T. Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] And if they do get your private key, what will they be able to do with it? Without also having your password, it's useless, no? No it is not useless. They can use it to unencrypted and message encrypted with his public key. The could load that

[e-gold-list] Re: keys, passwords

2002-05-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're all so spectacularly confused about how PGP works, and what the terms are, DONT DISCUSS IT! :) JP! I don't think there's much confusion, only resolution. I think Sidd has hit the nail on the head. The exported private key block has the password

[e-gold-list] Re: Hey, where's the beef. (or gold in this case)

2002-05-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: SnowDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have complete confidence in the owners of E-Gold. I have been convinced. Me too, especially after meeting Doug Jackson and Jim Ray in person and hearing them speak. Still though, it would be nice to have a formal audit. But then of course we have to trust

[e-gold-list] Re: idea - transfering the money

2002-05-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Kamil Kukura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your example mentioned the following five roles: buyer (deposit-A) seller (deposit-B) bank (deposit-A) system (deposit-A) system (deposit-B) I had a hard time making sense of what emails get sent from whom to whom. Even just the roles

[e-gold-list] Re: great stuff

2002-05-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://planetgold.com look at that list of market makers down the left, all of them successful solid businesses. the gold economy is growing! I bought an HP toner cartridge from Business Express using e-gold and it worked like a charm. Next time I need office

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] re: New Report

2002-05-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us imagine for a moment that through some terrible disaster, GM Networks Ltd (Goldmoney) and e-gold both lost their entire database of customer accounts ... It is clear to see that for all practical purposes GoldMoney is just like e-gold... they are both

[e-gold-list] RE: I need s.o. to pay with Credit Card

2002-05-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds wonderful but how does it work? I looked at netgoldspend.com and could not see anything about opening an account nor anything about single use credit cards...? Tell us... I'm sure if you can offer this service you will have lots of clients...

[e-gold-list] Re: Claim, Title and Risk

2002-05-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Kenneth C. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... As I have pointed out in my article GoldMoney - Title or Claim? the existing GoldMoney system does not actually grant true title to specific gold assets in the vault to the holder ... But in theory, GoldMoney could go the extra mile and create

[e-gold-list] Horse still dead but shows signs of recovery

2002-05-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 23 May 2002, at 13:12, Kenneth C. Griffith wrote: 1. Ownership must be specific: ... Why must it be specific? There is no need to. There are many exemple in real life of this kind of ownership. They call it undivided property. Very

[e-gold-list] Re: Horse still dead but responds well to IV drip

2002-05-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
there and fiddle around with who owns exactly WHICH shares, do you? My thanks to Dale Pond for the dictionary citations for claim. May everyone listening be blessed with Life, Love, and Laughter. Regards, Patrick Chkoreff \nat:mul=(\x\y x [] \bx\nx y [] \by\ny bx (by [T|nat:add nx (nat:mul ny x)] [F

[e-gold-list] Re: Horse still dead but responds well to IV drip

2002-05-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Kenneth C. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] The water bank owes you 1,000 liters. But you don't own the water in the tank. You do own the 1,000 liters. That is why the water bank owes it to you. If you didn't own it, they wouldn't owe it to you. Why would they owe you something you don't

[e-gold-list] Re: Horse still dead but responds well to IV drip

2002-05-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Colonel Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] On to other examples... Your shares of Microsoft,, guess what? Corporate Shares have SERIAL NUMBERS. My broker does not know that I own three specific shares #12038375, #87289738, and #22703611. He only knows that I own three shares. You may THINK

[e-gold-list] Re: Property ownership

2002-05-25 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to

[e-gold-list] Re: Property ownership

2002-05-25 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Jim: Good points on property and trust. I talked with Ken Griffith a bit more and he made a good point about the GoldMoney patent: If deposit currency is a way for account holders to exercise ownership of an asset then James Turk invented nothing, because account holders at bullion banks

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] own

2002-05-25 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately for the gold industry, there is a grave shortage of people who can look beyond the dictionary and actually examine the issues in advance of some dispute. Here's a way to think about ownership: You own something if you have the right to use it

[e-gold-list] Re: the liberty dollar

2002-05-27 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been using the Liberty Dollar lately for practically everything I buy. A couple of times, one or more of the silver coins hasn't even made it into the cash register because either an employee or another customer has put a $10 FRN in its place so they could keep

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] density

2002-05-27 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What size is a pound of gold? What's the best physical object to compare it to? (pack of cigarettes, deck of cards or something) JP! Well, a cubic-inch of gold is about 0.7 normal pounds. So 1 pound would be about 1.42 cubic-inches. That's a start -- I don't

[e-gold-list] Re: the liberty dollar

2002-05-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: Steven T. Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Liberty Dollar is an interesting concept. Why don't they accept digital currencies especially e-gold for there goods? Steve They do accept e-gold (or at least they did). The last time I bought Liberty currency I paid with e-gold. Regards,

[e-gold-list] Re: The Liberty Dollar

2002-05-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Salutations Mr. NotHaus! Have you ever considered a warehouse receipt denominated in grams of e-silver or e-gold? I am surprised no one else has started to do this. I know there is a markup for minting your own coins but 10 USD for 1 ounce of silver still seems a

[e-gold-list] Re: Help convince them to accept e-gold, please

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whose cellphone took an unplanned, deadly swim on Memorial Day. You took that Corona commercial way too seriously, Jim. :-) PC --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Just again as an aside, you guys are off on these mind-boggling tangents, if I had to GUESS the reason for the discrepancy, a spectacularly more normal, easy-going guess, would be something like GSR load up a few extra bars in there to save time. But that is Just

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