that.
Thanks for your efforts,
Patrick Chkoreff
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no more legal authority to do what
he did than my immigrant grandfather had. But that never stopped a
president from doing anything to consolidate and maintain power (e.g.
Lincoln, LBJ, Nixon, etc.)
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Re: run, don't walk ... (FDR couldn't do either)
LOL. Wickedly funny comment there, JP. I'm having to suppress some guilty
chuckles over here. I don't usually laugh at the plight of differently
abled people, but I'm making an exception in this case.
Of course, FDR is dead, so I guess
Also, have the constant spurious log-on attempts continued. I
noticed my account had been tried yesterday. Is everyone
experiencing this?
Yes, I had an unsuccessful login attempt at 05:32 GMT this morning (Wed
09-Jan). That was 00:32 Eastern time, and I was definitely asleep.
-- Patrick
, the percentage of euros E backed by the
gold G.
If I had this formula, then for a given E and G I could verify that P was at
least 15%. Without the formula, I have no way of knowing P.
Maybe the answer is VERY obvious and I'm just being EXTREMELY dense. That
does happen sometimes.
Regards,
Patrick
From: Luc Van den Borre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From gun-wielding libertarians to radical Muslims, an unlikely global
cabal is
plotting financial revolution. And they're putting their money where the
Web is.
By Julian Dibbell
http://wired.com/wired/archive/10.01/egold.html
Thanks for the link!
However, yes, 1mdc LODGEMENTS are quite literally a free lunch.
What you pay into the 1mdc brand is your very interest, attention,
the fact that you tell others, etc etc. What 1mdc Lodgements builds
is absolute trust, reputation and so on.
Very neat, JP. The agio fees are simply your
On 16 Jan 2002, at 0:42, SnowDog wrote:
... Let's say that the Euro is backed by 15% of its value in gold.
In my previous posting, I challenged everybody to define what this actually
meant. Here is how I stated the problem:
Let E be the total number of euros in circulation. Let G be the
From: Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:19 PM
On 17 Jan 2002, at 10:18, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:
Very neat, JP. The agio fees are simply your marketing costs. On the
$100,000 lodged, that works out to about $1000 a year.
But marketing costs for what
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From: Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:33 PM
I have a theory. This is just theory and speculation, of
course.
If I had me a brick of gold in digital format, I would lend it
out to some trusted currency exchange providers who are low
From: Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:16 PM
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Ok JP , I'll try it too. good luck
John
Hey, this is a neat new service, y'all. The HYIP Test Drive. Let just a
few fools and their gold be parted just for the fun of it, and it spares
the rest of us fools the same fate! Of course, I've never done one
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:02 PM
Can anyone here give a quick, accurate run down on the history of the
gold confiscation episode and the dropping of the gold standard in
the USA from 1930 through 1990?
One gram for the most
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From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:13 PM
Take a look at my article on FreedomHound:
http://www.freedomhound.com/Articles.jsp;jsessionid=aaaclVX313hVNOfkUj3?id=1
3
Damn word wrap! Note the 3 on the second line of the link
itself is in effect a state within a state, or
rather a state without a state.
Thanks for letting us benefit from your experience, Jim.
Regards,
Patrick Chkoreff
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Use e-gold's
From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Considering that West Virginia provided 30,000 men to the Union Army, and
20,000 men to the Confederate Army and both sides blew each other's brains
out for five years, I don't think you can accurately call it a peaceful
secession.
Just a thought from a
From: Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [dgc.chat] Real Gold Money
Mr. Gary North:
What concrete form must real gold money take before you will
finally recognize it as such and promote it?
Do you think Mr. North actually has any interest in sound money
existing
Anyone know of a good place I can buy cigars online with e-gold?
-- Patrick
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Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s)
via the
- Original Message -
Also, you can take your cryptocard anywhere and use it on any
computer; if you're talking a smart card you need the right computer
set up etc.
Have you used a cryptocard? They're great.
OK JP, I took a look at www.cryptocard.com, and this looks truly awesome.
From: SnowDog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The crypto-card is spoof-proof. ... On log-in, the website will present a
number.
This number must be keyed into your crypto-card to receive another number
which then must be keyed into the website. The crypto-card is the only
thing
which knows the correct
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From: C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In law, there is such thing as undivided property. Someone can
have a title on part of a whole. This part does not need to be
defined in other way than saying it is x% of the whole.
The owners of an undivided
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From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New article on the Gold Economy:
E-Bullion announces its Cryptocard
http://www.goldeconomy.com/article.php?sid=171
YOWZA! The competition in security is heating up!
-- Patrick
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From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We accept: ... C2it
Has anyone else found c2it to be IMPOSSIBLY slow? I can barely even log in
sometime because the browser keeps timing out. I've complained to cust srvc
twice now.
Every other site I use is lightning fast, including e-gold,
?
Can anyone enlighten me on the implications of this dramatic shortage of
gold?
Thanks in advance,
Patrick Chkoreff
P.S. I simply DO NOT YET understand Ricardian systems or any kind of
digital token system. I have not seen a satisfactory explanation of how and
when such money is created. If I
From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is enough? Digital gold is divisible as fine as you want to take it.
The more the economy grows, the more the buying power of gold grows.
Your question is evidence of a failure to understand the relationship of
supply and demand.
Gold is scalable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2002/02/13/bookstores/index.html
use bananagold now -- it's very private. no records between you and
any bookstores!
http://bananagold.com
Way to go JP!
For all of you out there who think that this is just a small baby step
What's wrong with http://www.capulin.com ? When I go there today I just get
This account has been disabled ... To have the account restored, contact
Customer Service. I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I'm afraid
Daniel might not get the email if his entire domain is disabled.
We have
From: James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gulp!
Good to know we can keep gulping Capulin now!
Hey, did y'all know that the Dansie Shopping cart can use e-gold?
Thanks for the reference -- looks like a great piece of code.
Also, since nobody has mentioned it in the perennial what if they
run
Are there any other points that you would like addressed? Again, feel
free to use E-Count or PayPal, Patrick, I just prefer the GBC's due to the
experiences I have had in the last two + years.
Thanks for sharing your wealth of experience here, Eric.
The reason I've been messing around
From: Jay W. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a little lube for the friction may come from a different
mind set... (snip) follow up by using an exchange provider
to pay off your credit card each month in exchange for gold.
Very astute, Jay! A good example of how people can adapt to existing
economic
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Plus, they (e-bullion) just HAD to express everything in dollars, didn't
they?
As for expressing things in dollars, that suits most people best at the
moment but we can also issue cards in Euros.
No, I wasn't talking about the debit cards, just that
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a little lube for the friction may come from a different
mind set...
That's absoltuely clever Jay!
The market maker who first offers very easy PAYMENT OF YOUR CREDIT
CARD via their web page interface, will go big!
I've used Xodds.com for this and it works great.
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patrick: it is Cambist.net, not Cambist.com! Please!
http://www.Cambist.net/
Ugh, that was a terrible mistake, Jim. I definitely know better -- it was
brain fatigue from a little too much coding today.
-- Patrick
Cambist.net. May Scale.
From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We used c2it for about 9 months, we setup 3 accounts with them, and
verified
all our customers. They were very good to work with, but about 3 weeks
ago
they decided they didnt want to deal with any Market Makers anymore due
to
fraud. They closed all 3 of
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No the pending funds were returned to the customers that sent the
funds. The bad part was the customers actually had to be notified
by me, and they had to cancel the transaction to get the funds back
in their
From: shupperd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... We are dabbling with www.anypay.com
From: patrick
I guess these online payment systems that use credit cards are always
going to end up
being antagonistic to gold market makers, simply because fraud will
always arise as an issue. That's because the
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e-gold gets mentioned in Forbes!
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/0304/020.html
...
... E-gold has credibility problems of its own--it's domiciled in
a tax haven in the Caribbean--but there is no reason its
From: Jeroen C. van Gelderen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to the article: Nothing that government can say or do about
money will have any credibility, so salvation must come from outside. It
could come in the form of software. I envision Microsoft as savior of
the dispossessed in Latin
.
Regards,
Patrick Chkoreff
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an email or url that'll get them going. It's been so long since I
subscribed I forgot how. :-)
I just told somebody to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
assume it'll bounce back with a subscription link, right?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.freestateproject.org
http://www.freestateproject.org/help.htm
Anyone who doesn't donate a few dollars ia a bastard!
JP, I simply will not be a bastard. I put 1.5 grams toward the Free State!
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From: Ken Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In order to meet the popular demand, we have changed the Gold Economy
Conference to a weekend conference and moved it back a month to April 19th
and 20th. The conference price will also be a lot cheaper - under $200.
I will have all the new prices and
From: Gaithman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: MRS. ESTHER ADISA
I am MRS. ESTHER ADISA, widow of late Engr. Bola Adisa, the former
Civilian
Governor of kwara state in Nigeria,
I have heard about these Nigerian scams for at least 4 or 5 years now. I
friend of mine used to work at Total
From: major bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It looks like the competition is heating up a little, fee reduction's at
E-Bullion!
They lowered the fee for spends to 25 cents instead of .50 - I like that,
the cheaper the costs the better IMHO.
They're also competitive on security because they
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.zealllc.com/2002/digigold.htm
This is like writing an article on the development of the broadcasting
industry and saying stop by www.pbs.org for an organization at the cutting
edge of broadcasting technology, unmatched in quality and lead by the
Khurram:
1mdc could drop backing its currency with only e-gold. Instead claim to
back 1mdc with a combination of e-gold, GoldMoney, e-bullion etc.
Guaranteeing, that at all times, all 1mdc would be backed by a
combination
of metal. ...
Perhaps Jim could temporarily offer a zero or even
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps Jim could temporarily offer a zero or even slightly negative rate
on
exchanges from 1mdc to e-gold. That might loosen up some of that e-gold
in
1mdc and make it flow into the Cambist inventory.
U, I meant to say exchanges from e-gold
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
U, I meant to say exchanges from e-gold to 1mdc, which is not likely
to
accomplish much in the way of replenishing his inventories.
A better example would be offering a slightly negative rate on exchanges
from e-gold to GoldMoney. Just long enough
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Question - who can see the very slight 1mdc logo (very large)
underneat hthe golden lines of the graph above? Is it too faint for
most monitors?)
The logo shows up great!
-- Patrick
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At 07:36 AM 19/03/2002 -0500, Chuck M @ VRI wrote:
... And suppose the co-worker wants to spend, say $30. What are
the fastest, least-hassle, least percentage ways to get as close to $30
into
the account?
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sell something or work for e-gold. Maximum 50
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
quote
The attackers:
(1) gained access to our server at some time in the
past, plotting a future attack
(2) stole key pass phrases from the server, to assist
in performing a crack on some rc4 encryption - at
a later date
(3) later found an
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People need to be able to simply look for the 'lock' icon on their browser
to determine if they are on a secure web server before entering
confidential data.
Yep. I remember raising this concern about the OLD GoldMoney interface,
where they had login
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: all the Norse concept stuff lately--way over my head, dude.
Two-cents still kicks butt for this simpleton.
Hmm, take a look at these links:
http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?306260EG
http://306260.clicktwocents.com
As a fellow simpleton, I guess I'd have to go
The only problem is that clicktwocents has NO way for the user to
specify
any desired amount of his choosing.
No longer. A clicktwocents tip can now be modified and specified in any
amount, unit, and/or metal.
What-what-WHAT?! Wow, when did THAT happen? You folks are FAST!
Gee, thanks!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can find an example of the new fake progeny email here:
http://planetgold.com/news.asp
Web users should also adopt the habit of double-clicking the lock icon to
verify that the certificate says Issued to: www.e-gold.com.
It sure would be nice if web browsers
From: Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What happened to Vince Calloway of Freedomhound? He doesn't
answer my e-mails.
I noticed this a while ago. Going back through my old emails, I saw that
Vince and I were corresponding up to 11-Jan-2002. On 31-Jan-2002, my emails
began going unanswered.
From:
Martijn:
You might want to check http://merchantgold.com .
-- Patrick
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From: Martijn Wismeijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Convert US checks to e-gold
Hello fellow
From: Ragnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just got this in my mailbox. The link takes you to:
I got it too.
-- Patrick
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From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yanks in Atlanta! I saw that movie. Box office hit of 1939. Didn't go down
too well in the civil war though. :(
Yes, Atlanta was the scene of what is now called total war, one aimed
directly at civilians and their property. This tactic was outlawed
From: Gaithman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interested Merchants and Consumers:
Patrick CHKOREFF
Just a note to correct the spelling of my last name.
By the way, the name is actually pronounceable: Chuh-KOR-eff.
-- Patrick
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(3) money services
businesses, such as money transfer companies and check cashers;
Perhaps some of you involved in the gold economy here in the US think this
is no big deal. After all, the government is just trying to prevent money
laundering, right? Surely these
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a big bullish gold open ...
Also silver and platinum. Gains this morning:
Gold: +1%(from 304.50 to 307.50)
Silver: +1.5% (from 4.55 to 4.62)
Platinum: +1.8% (from 544 to 554)
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be left behind and eventually nobody will want your monopoly
money.
Try expanding your personal network of trusted souls with whom you can
exchange real money -- gold.
Ideally,
Patrick Chkoreff
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-- Adam wrote:
Imagine someone wants to pay $100 for a product with e-gold. To
purchase e-gold they have to pay anywhere from 18% (CC) to 5%
premium, already they are at a loss of $5 to $18. Now they pay their
merchant with e-gold. The merchant received e-gold, and
5/4/2002 1:15:19 PM, Mariman Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do apologize, the message sent to the List was to be sent to Patrick
only !! This reply-to command is *%^*$ !! Second time I mistake..
Sorry again and have a good Sunday :)
MC
And he's not referring to me, Patrick Chkoreff
5/5/2002 2:15:35 AM, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Meanwhile, since science is wonderful, I created another one
today. I called it Gold 101. It does not have any slogan about
restoring the gold standard, just an image of an atom of
gold, an image of the crystal lattice, the word
5/6/2002 2:55:31 AM, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I have a platinum image, but again, I have never seen
platinum in real life, so someone who has, please tell me
if I got the color/finish right, so I can submit it:
http://www.goldcowboy.com/temp/platinum.jpg
Thanks,
Adam
5/6/2002 11:07:34 AM, James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that aside from gold and copper (that I can think of anyway)
most metals are probably best described as 'silvery.' Hmm. And both gold
and
copper are known to occasionally appear in pure or almost-pure form
naturally,
5/6/2002 2:55:31 AM, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I have a platinum image, but again, I have never seen
platinum in real life, so someone who has, please tell me
if I got the color/finish right, so I can submit it:
http://www.goldcowboy.com/temp/platinum.jpg
Thanks,
Adam
with a new sweaty
oily film, etc. etc. like Spy vs. Spy. But I really can't think of
anything that could counter the one-time pad technology. Then again, I'm no
expert on security. Any ideas?
Regards,
Patrick Chkoreff
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5/6/2002 7:41:42 PM, Tristan Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suppose we were to apply the above concepts to the cambist industry. Do
we need only one cambist because if we don't have just one, all the
customers suddenly become confused?
Interesting you bring this up, Tristan. I have heard
From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I had the same problem with Opera 6 in Windows 2000 on ANY secure web
site.
I ended up going back to Internet Explorer. There are some very nice
features in Opera. It is a great shame when important stuff like SSL fails
on it. :(
Yep. Oh well, Bill Gates
From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With e-gold, the receiver pays a 1% fee up to a maximum of 50 cents.
With goldmoney, the sender pays only a 0.1% fee, up to a maximum of 50
mils.
With e-bullion, the sender pays a flat twenty-five cent ($0.25) fee.
With Crowne-Gold, the sender pays
From: Gimme Shelter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And when he uses fiat how much is levied against him?
Personally, I do not htink these gold based currencies are designed to go
out and buy coffee with them.
They are designed for final based payments, with gold as the medium of
exchange.
I think this
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A while ago somebody (Patrick?) expressed an interest in buying Cuban
cigars with e-gold and my friend who sells them was out of stock.
I have now persuaded him to auction some on goldbarter.com... please
support this effort!
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C'mon guys, 7.2g is very cheap for this box of cigars.
If you want a regular supply to be offered in exchange for gold, make it
worth the guy's while! I know he can sell them for more than this
wholesale...
OK, there ya go. I thought 5g was a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.goldbarter.com/viewauction.jsp?id=120
i hate bidding against you Patrick, but I forced myself! :O
that price is still cheap as chips!
if the goldbarter system remembered one's log in, I would bid more!
Hey, no problem. If this auction goes well I
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications -
which solution is right for you?
Thanks for the Hushmail info. I particularly liked the High Level
Technical Description at
http://www.hushmail.com/about_hushmail/how_it_works/tech_description.shtml
Does anybody else think it's odd that in PGP you can export your private key
to a text file WITHOUT having to supply the password for that key? That
means that anybody who can log into my computer can also get a copy of my
private key.
It's not that I have a wide-open Windows password or
From: Steven T. Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And if they do get your private key, what will they be able
to do with it? Without also having your password, it's useless, no?
No it is not useless. They can use it to unencrypted and message
encrypted with his public key.
The could load that
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You're all so spectacularly confused about how PGP works, and what
the terms are, DONT DISCUSS IT! :)
JP! I don't think there's much confusion, only resolution. I think Sidd
has hit the nail on the head.
The exported private key block has the password
From: SnowDog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have complete confidence in the owners of E-Gold. I
have been convinced.
Me too, especially after meeting Doug Jackson and Jim Ray in person and
hearing them speak. Still though, it would be nice to have a formal audit.
But then of course we have to trust
From: Kamil Kukura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your example mentioned the following five roles:
buyer (deposit-A)
seller (deposit-B)
bank (deposit-A)
system (deposit-A)
system (deposit-B)
I had a hard time making sense of what emails get sent from whom to whom.
Even just the roles
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://planetgold.com
look at that list of market makers down the left, all of them
successful solid businesses. the gold economy is growing!
I bought an HP toner cartridge from Business Express using e-gold and it
worked like a charm. Next time I need office
From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let us imagine for a moment that through some terrible disaster, GM
Networks Ltd (Goldmoney) and e-gold both lost their entire database of
customer accounts ...
It is clear to see that for all practical purposes GoldMoney is just
like e-gold... they are both
From: Fidex Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sounds wonderful but how does it work? I looked at netgoldspend.com and
could not see anything about opening an account nor anything about
single use credit cards...?
Tell us... I'm sure if you can offer this service you will have lots of
clients...
From: Kenneth C. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... As I have pointed out in my
article GoldMoney - Title or Claim? the existing GoldMoney system does
not
actually grant true title to specific gold assets in the vault to the
holder ...
But in theory, GoldMoney could go the extra mile and create
From: C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 23 May 2002, at 13:12, Kenneth C. Griffith wrote:
1. Ownership must be specific: ...
Why must it be specific? There is no need to.
There are many exemple in real life of this kind of ownership. They
call it undivided property. Very
there and fiddle around with who owns exactly WHICH shares, do you?
My thanks to Dale Pond for the dictionary citations for claim. May
everyone listening be blessed with Life, Love, and Laughter.
Regards,
Patrick Chkoreff
\nat:mul=(\x\y x [] \bx\nx y [] \by\ny
bx
(by [T|nat:add nx (nat:mul ny x)] [F
From: Kenneth C. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The water bank owes you 1,000 liters. But you don't own the water
in the tank.
You do own the 1,000 liters. That is why the water bank owes it to you. If
you didn't own it, they wouldn't owe it to you. Why would they owe you
something you don't
From: Colonel Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On to other examples... Your shares of Microsoft,, guess what? Corporate
Shares have SERIAL NUMBERS.
My broker does not know that I own three specific shares #12038375,
#87289738, and #22703611. He only knows that I own three shares.
You may THINK
From: Jim Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jim:
Good points on property and trust.
I talked with Ken Griffith a bit more and he made a good point about the
GoldMoney patent:
If deposit currency is a way for account holders to exercise
ownership of an asset then James Turk invented nothing, because account
holders at bullion banks
From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately for the gold industry, there is
a grave shortage of people who can look beyond
the dictionary and actually examine the issues
in advance of some dispute.
Here's a way to think about ownership:
You own something if you have the right to use it
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been using the Liberty Dollar lately for practically everything I
buy. A couple of times, one or more of the silver coins hasn't even made
it into the cash register because either an employee or another customer
has put a $10 FRN in its place so they could keep
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What size is a pound of gold?
What's the best physical object to compare it to? (pack of
cigarettes, deck of cards or something)
JP!
Well, a cubic-inch of gold is about 0.7 normal pounds. So 1 pound would be
about 1.42 cubic-inches.
That's a start -- I don't
From: Steven T. Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Liberty Dollar is an interesting concept. Why don't they accept
digital currencies especially e-gold for there goods?
Steve
They do accept e-gold (or at least they did). The last time I bought
Liberty currency I paid with e-gold.
Regards,
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Salutations Mr. NotHaus!
Have you ever considered a warehouse receipt denominated in grams
of e-silver or e-gold? I am surprised no one else has started to
do this. I know there is a markup for minting your own coins but
10 USD for 1 ounce of silver still seems a
From: James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whose cellphone took an unplanned, deadly swim on Memorial Day.
You took that Corona commercial way too seriously, Jim. :-)
PC
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(Just again as an aside, you guys are off on these mind-boggling
tangents, if I had to GUESS the reason for the discrepancy, a
spectacularly more normal, easy-going guess, would be something like
GSR load up a few extra bars in there to save time. But that is
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